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toys us up

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fantastic a lover gender neutral toilet

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you think they're much better than a normal

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toilet

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i'm yes on now

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i like them because of never been pulled out

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, agenda neutral toilet and

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and often removed from a lady's to i

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have been implemented soya so

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you know the spot

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seat of kind of a say

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, is kind of basically

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negative media stories

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that liked of paints wasn't salespeople

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as more intolerant of people

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from different backgrounds or or

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identities or whatever insight

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team so you've seen that

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in your life or spirits

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i'm not really to be honest

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i'd other ways and costs pass in our

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we're community people that they

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are on the fringes anyway on this all

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the other marginalized communities and all

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the other sort of protected characteristics if you like

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so sit within the within the

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of of of how i grew up you know that there

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are am working class communities

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of of color there are waking costs

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people thought all and gay

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trans on those are the difference

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different aspects i think that when when

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you're on the fringes

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it own

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this makes you more except

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in over the people on the fringes

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see when it comes to date him that money's

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a big thing have you ever had a

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, with someone you've been seeing what dating

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because of money off because

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is your background or through life experiences

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i don't think so no and i

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mean personally i saw say way from push people

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a air

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, know what is the a scare them off for them as

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the halo the she's bored said i

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just don't really spend don't long time and discuss

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adventures why did you get

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friend

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the men's toilet? laughing that

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i'm probably not sometimes wanna

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say on radio

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it

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this episode is about sexuality

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and like many of my generation i'm

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i'm pretty easy when it comes to different genders

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labor sexuality is my old of

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that as long as you don't identify as

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a toll

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and sometimes implication that people

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from poor communities are more likely to

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be intolerant was lgbt people

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a generalization a fine points

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of

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is it considering my first long

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term relationship was was a boy from cumbria

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and , was caught ass and i'll be honest with scabs

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the for years and he was very rarely homophobic

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about the square about the developer when it comes to

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having relationships had enough my first girlfriend

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until was about twenty eighth and as she dumped

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me within a month and then a couple weeks later

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i met and of a girl so i was single

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for so long intimate two girls

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in the short space of time i was like wow goes

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a lot buses you know

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bloody sexy and

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boys like tractors

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i kiss one wants to

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when when simply gay or straight is always people

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who wants to sort of try and prove you wrong

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for not fit in and either box like

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us as had people come up to m b lox

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ah so am i didn't think you a quick as

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you don't act gay and i'm like well

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his boys

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white

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guy in

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, of dated no i don't really care

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what gender someone is like a that i do

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still meet people who really dumb get

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this i say things like us if you had to choose

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some i hold on was a situation that why

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why do i have what we have the have you

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reboot the registry office what's going on here

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here the most invasive version of blinds

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i have ever beat or beat than

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a sort of the sort of lot you know on up a viper

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a gun to your her to the might hold on my what what

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what i'm

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he does it solely on he to set limit yourself with people

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but as go in as bit too far as

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or is also people who say things like all

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wonder if you get married so woman eventually

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than clearly he just clearly straight person

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he was playing around which playing think is absurd

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logic like just because you end up in one

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situation it doesn't mean that defines

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what you were and who you are forever

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is like me going

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hi this is my friend matt and he has

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never been a

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maybe he

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, out with six per frame for mortgage mortgage

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missouri for from for the

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midwest said it was like reverse russian dough

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of people suspect bizarre interest

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of people sexualized someone was asked me

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thomas favorite position which is difficult

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because i'm using a substitute biloxi

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nowadays most people would a pretty cool with lgbt

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people but doubles one gig a

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few years back when back gig a comedian

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of with myself and an audience member a

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list back to the train station and ask

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so funny old he spent by heading towards the platform

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he got a phone call from his mate use of when oh

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i just want to check your right because i was scared to

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those guy guys are going to attack you and

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that sort of a comes from a homophobic belief that

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gay men and quip people are more likely

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to attack people will be dangerous

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which is pretty strange considering it straight

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people putting a gun to my head's the

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but as as working class person i don't

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know if wearing a hoodie makes me twice as scary

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however it cancels itself out the

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class and sexuality they've always been linked in

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my love life because my sexuality and with

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define who i go out with a

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my classmate i had to say near the end of every first

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date like i'm really sorry i can't pay for your

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meal i promise i'm not being a massive prick

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your background also changes the kind of tight

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as she got bored because us in my early twenties

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went on the day was a girl and us

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i'm gonna say a say that you like

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us we got some side isn't to a park

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bench we

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didn't add a bottle opener so she said to me

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our got tricked to get the bottle cap

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off using the bench snows like

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oh ty the so be clever and then she

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just smashed up on on about

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honest lost inside ever on us amazing

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my what you learn

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that like another

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time time to a boy slot he was in his

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early twenty's users in and

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sometimes as a stereotype the students

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a terrible at cookin i don't know

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if you've ever been on a date with someone i

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know managed to make angel

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delight wrong

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and you just sat there scoop and slightly

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white powder and see him out for

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, dinner but

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this guy did at the very least tell me one of my favorite

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ever stories about someone been

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in the closets when the closets a like teenager

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he had his

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equip boyfriend round just stay and when

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whose parents asked what a guy was staying the

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night he really panicked to win

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where he's my solicitor i'm

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ash when i was twenty one and he was seventeen

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and we didn't go on a dying in the traditional sense

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because we met online through a friend and we

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saw of course notes over over skype for or is

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some people call it was frozen and

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the it was it was long distance

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relationships you know where i just like

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two hundred and fifty miles or so how's

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that i'll be honest as someone who was on benefits

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at the time

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it was probably cheaper relations i could

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have been hating but

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, you know you can't you can't put a price on love

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and i mean what you can like a about

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sixty quid return the railcard the

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the you were in a couple with a cloth aspect is always

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magnified even more like at

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the time i was signing on and ash worked

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in peacocks so he was the rich

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one in the relationship despite the fact he was urging

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five pounds an pounds but

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it was a lovely relationship and i still remember over

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the times we were so of walking through a city

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centre late at night holding hands smart

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in hands other and then we see a group

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of lines in the distance and we'd have to we'd

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have to stop potent hands and make yourself

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pretty smooth so we didn't become a target

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cause a stereotype of queer people being

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a frat it creates fear which leads to homophobia

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which makes them more at risk of on the street

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people at the were in the first place i was

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seeing the same thing happened with tunes

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people nowadays now a i

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find it so strange because some people get so annoyed

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about pronouns right and if you don't know a

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pronoun some people use he some you she

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some use a and a occasionally

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you see people who get really annoyed by it they go oh

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i can't keep up with all these pronouns like a

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oh and my day the all those just too

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but now there's far too many of them and i'm like may

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you find with names the

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if you could remember his name his derek

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he's [unk]

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and he wants and shit and a cement

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mixer then

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, could remember that their name is alex and they've

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never shafted a cement mixer mixer

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dare say the pronouns is probably the least important

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thing going on here to be on his

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match me that conversion therapy for lgbt

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people is still legal in twenty

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still legal i'm it's don't get me wrong i think

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we should have some conversion

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therapy but it should be exclusively

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for mps who think he should remain legal

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sit em down in a room and be like

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where we think the reason you care more about money

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than human life it probably comes back to some

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sort of childhood trauma ras

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you know maybe when the alpha dogs they said

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my son that your dad called you an asset

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i , maybe some pregnancy when your mama see

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because i said congrats on your investments

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for when a when free your first call it said

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well done said well free year

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i don't think it's important to it's of talk about this stuff

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because bigotry of any kind of his homophobia

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sexism racism transfer be classed

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as a web alex it will always effect poor

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people even more see impact sir

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your weather employees will hire you with a dog if your

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promotion or even all impact

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with you can force transition whatever you want

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to maine and are like that they

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they were my that's true love and so

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they've changed a lot over the years since we were young

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the study their voices deeper they

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can grow facial hair now and i sometimes

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use he's since on tuesday and

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live i'm not the same eve occurs how

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to handcuff still

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, probe is that

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what isn't different isn't the fact that like paul of may

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i think because we were together for so long in

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a formative years of in part of me was

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have always loved them and always want to stand

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up for them i think trans people

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just one to live their lives and

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twelve some people see them as an avowed at the same my gay

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people once the seems like so many in

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my generation vessel of our brothers or sisters

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or siblings or workmates or friends

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and all lovers and effect

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for quite a while as a working class person i wasn't

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comfortable talking about square shoes

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because of the stereotype of wasn't as

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people more likely to be bigoted or

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homophobic based kinda ridiculous

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stereotype when it's a push people

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who put presets and twenty eight and push

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people who are happy voting to keep conversion

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therapy like maybe data problem

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because it's more like queer people don't

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exist and working class communities wanna

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watch insane sprees one of my colleagues

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were there for ten years before she came out as

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trans and her name was miranda upon

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coming back off the transition in a customer

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said oh you're very smiley and as

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lovely have not seen you around here before that

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are you new and she went no no a penis

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or a over ten years and the customer

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really you how come i haven't seen

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you around before and around to win or

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what i used to be least be something different

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annika for one oh okay on

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what was that them

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the former and to could reply her

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colleagues looked over her shoulder i went miserable

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i think when it comes to play if people whether

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they are gay bisexual pan sexual

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a sexual trans or any of the of a

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self members of the rainbow alphabet sites

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you don't always have to understand precisely

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why we feel like we do just a were

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asking for is that you respect that's

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how we feel is change isn't

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something that you have to fear in

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fact so many who have embraced it is

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led to them been far happier than they ever were before

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