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Thomas Countz is a Senior Software Crafter at 8th Light where he works with a variety of ambitious teams on a variety of ambitious projects. A true curious nerd at heart, Thomas digs into everything from robotics and cider making to bouldering and Shakespeare’s comedies. To hear even more about Thomas, you can follow him on Twitter at @thomascountz and visit his blog at https://thomascountz.com.

Jerome Goodrich is an adoring husband, new dog dad, and all-around curious explorer. Through his work as a Principal Software Crafter at 8th Light, Jerome leads amazing software teams to design and develop thoughtful solutions to complex problems. He loves pairing strenuous hikes with deep conversations and is always trying to see things clearly and with an open heart. Jerome lives much of his life off of the internet, but he occasionally writes on his website: https://jeromegoodrich.com

8th Light partners with businesses and community groups to craft software that unlocks human potential and makes the world a better place. We’re passionate about designing for people, inspiring through education, and empowering the future. With teams spread across the globe—including Chicago, London, Los Angeles, New York, Austin, and Madison—we’re always eager to hear about ambitious new projects. Learn more about our team and reach out at https://8thlight.com

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Jerome: Hey Thomas. 

[00:00:03] Thomas: Hey Jerome. 

[00:00:04] Jerome: So who are we talking to this week? 

[00:00:07] Thomas: I am so glad you asked, Jerome. We're not talking to anyone. 

[00:00:13] Jerome: Aw. 

[00:00:14] Thomas: Except each other! 

[00:00:16] Jerome: Okay. All right. Yeah. I figured that might be the case. We had a bit of an audio snafu. We are... You know, despite how great this podcast sounds and how professional we may seem. We're still getting our ducks in a row. We're still trying to figure things out. And we had a bit of a hiccup this week. 

[00:00:46] Thomas: Yeah. We were really excited to release an awesome interview and, as things do, things went awry. And instead of subjecting you to 40 minutes of Jerome and I talking to each other, although I'm sure that would be just fantastic for you to listen to, we're instead going to take a little break and we will see you in two weeks for our next real episode.

[00:01:17] Jerome: See you in two weeks everybody. Get excited.

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