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Hey everyone, you're listening to Code Switch.
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I'm B.A. Parker. To
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be young and to have principles is a
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scary thing. You don't know what
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the outcome will be, what it'll cost.
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Today, I wanna share with you the story of a
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group of young black men who
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paid an immeasurable price for choosing to stand
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up for themselves. The
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Black 14 were football players at the University of
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Wyoming back in 1969, and
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they decided to take a stand against the
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racist treatment they were experiencing at a football
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game, and that choice changed
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their lives forever. The
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episode you're about to hear is from the
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BBC's podcast called Amazing Sports Stories, and it's
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the first in a special four-part series that
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I got to host for them called The
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Black 14. When
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you're done with this installment, you can find the
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rest of the series over the next few weeks
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on the BBC website or wherever you
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get your podcasts. The
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following podcast contains lived experiences which involve the use
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of strong, racist language. For
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listeners outside of the United States
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or Canada, this episode contains many references to football. On
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this occasion, we aren't talking about the spherical
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version, it's not soccer. It's
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American football, helmets, shoulder pads, and so on.
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The gridiron is the term
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for a football game. It's
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the term for a football field.
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Tony McGee and I are the only two that
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were actually in the game that
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was the catalyst for this whole initiative. So
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you're the OG? I'm one of the OG's, me and McGee.
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This is Guillermo Haysaw. He
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used to go by Willie. Back when he was 19 years old, the
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age he was when our story starts. But
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it's Guillermo these days, now that he's in his 70s. Willie
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is an intense, competitive guy. He's
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small for a football player, up for
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it with a kind of bubbling,
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highly taught energy. He
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likes to hit and be hit and jump up
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again for the next play. It's
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the fall of 1968 in the clear
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high air of clean cut Provo, Utah.
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It's the home of Briam Young University,
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BYU. Guillermo's unlucky opponents
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for the day. He
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plays for the University of Wyoming Cowboys
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football team and they're taking on Briam
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Young and BYU Stadium. We
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were getting beat. We got
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that surge of energy and we won the game.
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Right so it was a squeaker. It's
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in a stunning setting. The Rocky
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Mountains framing the small town. It
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ought to be amazing for Guillermo. He's
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young and ready for anything. Like
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any competitor, he's always chasing a win.
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And this is a big one. It's a
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moment. But he's
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also black and it's 1968
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and Provo is determined to make it
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clear that he's not welcome. Typically
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the nigger calling and
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gouging that happens when you
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get tackled was commonplace.
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At that time during this
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1968 game, Guillermo is one
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of five African-American football players on
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the Cowboys team. The
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game's over. We're cheering on the
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sideline. Even before that
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in the game itself, Tony McGee had
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been complaining to the official
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about the excess gouging and
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nigger calling and choking and what have you
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in the piles when we get tackled. The
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officials would say, oh, just shut up and play
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the game. They weren't calling any files or penalties.
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So we're cheering on the sideline, won
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the game. Usually you
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walk parallel perpendicular to the
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other team shaking hands after the
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game. We look across the
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field And everybody's gone.
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The Whole football team. Coaches everybody's
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gone with. Think of what happened you
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know? so I know we we won
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the game. Other: you know that bad
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a Sportsman that they're not gonna in.
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I acknowledge it and so we started
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to run across the field to go
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to the locker room. They turn the
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sprinklers on and we had to run
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through the water. Now mind you, the
4:19
whole football team not just the five
4:21
black players had to run through the
4:23
water to get to the locker room.
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Even victory. The ammo
4:28
and the rest of the Black Cow blaze receive
4:30
next to their dignity. As much as
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they try to ignore that, Genuine.
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His teammates don't have a huge that's at
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the time. It is get the hell out
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of promo. They don't forget
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it and that day. And. Night and
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sixty eight with spec said. It's
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going to change gamers. Lays is going
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to change his teammate has it's. Going
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to bring the football team they play. For crashing
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down and record for more
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than sixty years. As
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going to put him and thirteen other
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young black. Men on a collision course
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with America. In
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the end, it's going to make them legend. Eight
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of those fourteen players. Are going to tell
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us that story? And
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the Bbc World Service This is
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amazing Sports stories. This is a
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new for. Part season The Black
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Fortunate and Be A Parker. I'm
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a writer, audio producer and co
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host of Code Slits, the show
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that race an identity on National
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Public Radio and the Us. Episode
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was middle land. But.
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In the Nineteen Sixty Eight and Nineteen Sixty
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Nine seasons, the number of black players in
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the Wyoming Cowboys football team. Grew from
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five to fourteen. For.
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The new arrivals their new home. was
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laramie wyoming and Northwest.
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They descended from all four corners of
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a country heaving with change. The
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1960s in the United States
6:11
saw people taking action. Racism,
6:14
sexism, and war had pushed a
6:16
generation to its breaking point. And
6:18
now they were pushing back. This
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is St. James's Baptist Church in
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Birmingham, Alabama. Tonight it's
6:26
the rallying center of the equality.
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In 1962, James Meredith
6:31
became the first African American student
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to enroll at the racially segregated
6:35
University of Mississippi. In
6:38
1968, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. I
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would like to take this opportunity to
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lead all of us in prayer for
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Martin Luther King and the future of
6:49
all civil rights movements. At the 1968 Olympics
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in Mexico City, the
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same year the Cowboys played Brigham Young, African
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American athletes Tommy Smith and John
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Carlos raised their fists in solidarity with other oppressed
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black people. It was black dignity and I'm proud
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I've done it and don't tell them what I'll
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do if I get up there next time. But
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new laws, new movements, new ideas
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seemed to prove that real change
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wasn't so far away as
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long as you were willing to stand up and fight for
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it. America
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was at a boiling point. Laramie
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Wyoming? Not so much. As
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athletes on sports scholarships at the
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University of Wyoming, Guillermo and
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his 13 black teammates weren't
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just the only black players on the
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team. They were among the only black
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people in a very white state. I'm
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John Griffin. I'm from a little town in
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the San Fernando Valley of California called
7:53
San Fernando and I'm a member of the Black 14. John
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was 21, one of the older players
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and one of the stars of the team. and another
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leader. He was softer
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spoken than the brash Guillermo and
8:05
more diplomatic. He was
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a born peacekeeper and the others respected
8:09
him, not least because of how brilliantly
8:11
he played. He was
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naturally confident, seemingly always at ease,
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but he was a long way from home.
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What were your first impressions of Laramie when
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you got there? It was different,
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I must say. Everything around
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the University of Plains with
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pronghorn, antelope. The
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University is beautiful, but my
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focus primarily was playing football.
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Did you feel any difference being
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one of like the few black
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students at that time at the University? I did,
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I did. You know
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we got to know the Black Student
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Alliance students. I
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got to know my teammates pretty well and
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all the brothers, we you know, there were 14 of us so
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we just hung out together. So we had
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a nice little community built in and so and
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we knew some of the white players. They
9:03
were good guys, you know, but we didn't,
9:05
we didn't hang around with white players. Not
9:07
at all? One. Dear
9:10
friend of mine by the name of George Herrick, there
9:13
was only one player that I hung around with. I
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don't think we realized what the true
9:19
flavor of Wyoming was back in 1969. What
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was the flavor of Wyoming in
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1969? Well it was a very, it was a red
9:27
state before
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it became a red state. How's that? John
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means more conservative. Laramie
9:37
was warm, friendly, and hospitable.
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The people were generous and
9:41
nice, but there was always
9:43
this feeling for these young men
9:45
so far from the communities they'd grown up
9:47
in, that that only ran
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so deep. That there was
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a way to behave and if they broke
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some unwritten rule they'd see a
9:56
different face of this small and gentle
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city. What were
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your first impressions of Blamey
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when you got there? Fear.
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Why am I here? That's
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Tony McGee. Guillermo mentioned him
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earlier. He was one of the
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other African-American players at the Bream Young game in
10:14
1968. Tony
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was the large to Guillermo's little.
10:19
He was 6'4 and weighed well over 100
10:22
kilos. That's 200
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pounds. He was
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used to small towns. He came from
10:28
one, in Michigan and America's Midwest. But
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he was nervous the second he got to Laramie. Michigan
10:34
is busy, but in Wyoming,
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you're always stranded in what
10:38
seems like an impossible expanse
10:40
of space. You see
10:42
nothing but land and steers
10:44
and cows and mountains. Something
10:47
the most beautiful country you'll ever see. Still,
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he was optimistic. He
10:52
had a scholarship to play for a famously
10:54
great team, and he was ambitious.
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All the coaches knew the players, and all
10:59
the players knew each other. There were not
11:01
many African-Americans on that team, but at the
11:03
same time, the ones that were on there
11:05
were pretty good players, and a lot of
11:07
them got opportunity to go pro. So I
11:09
really liked the fit. Hi,
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I'm Joe Williams. I go by JW. But
11:14
I'm Joe Williams. I'm from Dallas,
11:16
Texas. Joe was another teammate and one
11:18
of the captains of the team. He
11:21
was a polite gentleman from the South with
11:23
manners that belied his killer instinct on the
11:25
field. What were your
11:27
first impressions of Laramie? It
11:30
was a complete coach
11:32
of shock. You hear me? I
11:36
mean, being from
11:38
East Texas, I mean, never being more
11:40
than 44 above-sea level.
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And then to go to Wyoming, where you 7,200 feet
11:45
above-sea level, to
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see mountains, to go to
11:49
a predominantly all-white school,
11:52
it was something special. The city
11:55
was fantastic. The football team was a
11:57
center of everything. Everybody
11:59
knew the... if you were there and then if
12:01
you have an African American descent then of course you
12:03
were in some kind of sport. Man,
12:05
when I first got to Wyoming, it was very
12:08
beautiful. The mountains, the landscape, just
12:10
the total atmosphere was nice. You know,
12:12
it hadn't been that far west. Lionel
12:14
Grimes was from the town of Alliance,
12:17
Ohio. And the people were friendly. I
12:19
mean, we were there, we were part of
12:21
the Wyoming Cowboys. But the
12:24
players did experience some ignorance and
12:26
racism in Laramie. I
12:28
did get some strange comments when I was there, which
12:30
was weird to me being in 1969, 1970,
12:35
where some people had never seen black people.
12:38
The funniest thing I think that ever happened
12:40
to me was at midnight one time. I
12:43
kept seeing this young man looking at my rear end, you know,
12:45
I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And
12:47
so finally I just asked him,
12:49
I said, man, what's going on, man? I
12:51
noticed you keep looking and it's approaching midnight,
12:53
what's going on? He said, well,
12:56
he had been told that black people had
12:58
tails and that they popped out at
13:00
midnight and he was looking to see
13:02
where mine was. And I looked at
13:04
this dude and I said, man, you're
13:06
not only ignorant, you're stupid. So
13:08
just a couple of answers. Other than that, it was
13:10
a very pleasant place to be. What
13:13
year did you start at the University
13:15
of Wyoming? I started at the University of Wyoming in
13:17
1968. Ron
13:20
Hill hails from Bessemer, Alabama in
13:22
the deep south. Alabama was
13:24
the home of Martin Luther King Jr.
13:26
and the birthplace of the civil rights
13:29
movement. As part of growing
13:31
up in the deep south, Ron attended
13:33
schools segregated by race. You
13:35
know, everybody's thinking, well, the hard part
13:37
is living in the south. Not
13:40
true. That's a fallacy. It's
13:43
an American problem. I was
13:45
coming from the library one night and it's
13:47
snowing, come across the street and three white
13:49
dudes in a car crossed the intersection and
13:51
he yells out, nigga, go home. This
13:55
is in Laramie? Yes, ma'am. This is in Laramie. The
13:58
Car was going along in the snow. I was
14:00
one in in the snow. I'll run along
14:02
right behind the have some splash and snow
14:05
all over the place. And
14:07
I caught up with those guys. And
14:10
I just all blacks don't want to hear that. Plugs,
14:13
And one is you blasphemous
14:15
because because will black. And
14:18
Melvin Hamilton. Though. He said we can call
14:20
him now. Said. Com sillier me straight
14:22
from the army. What? Were your
14:24
first impressions of Laramie? Oh
14:27
My. God. My. First
14:30
Love I noticed a
14:32
lack of diversity or
14:34
immediately. So I
14:36
say what have I done. The.
14:38
Second thing, it was cold
14:41
so. And I
14:43
said, what have I done. That.
14:46
Sense of the universities black student
14:48
Alliance Will you black? Was interviewed
14:50
about this time and Wyoming years
14:52
later. When. We arrived the University.
14:55
We. Were appalled that Blackstone's didn't feel
14:58
comfortable eating in the main cafeteria. Sort
15:01
of Blackstone's would. We. Go downstairs
15:03
and that's where you'll find much as they
15:05
oh my goodness said this. This is Awful.
15:08
And there was no source of place for them.
15:10
They talk about the hanging outside. Till
15:12
a good deterrent go There was
15:15
no place for the no no
15:17
social activity that despite solely for
15:19
known as Isis the or Blackstone
15:21
allows. For. The most part though, the
15:23
players could try and focus on what they were
15:25
there to do. Play. Football.
15:30
When. You know, football was like
15:33
the military to me. Once
15:36
you're in a situation, Where.
15:39
You all have similar goals.
15:42
Is seems like raised doesn't
15:44
matter. And so
15:46
be the only one that looks
15:49
like me isn't as important. Maybe
15:51
more? Because. You have
15:53
that go to obtain. Perhaps.
15:56
Initially, race that and seem to
15:58
matter. within the keys But
16:00
the reality of the 1960s was about to
16:02
get in the way. Football
16:09
for a college player was like
16:12
a job. But for many of
16:14
the Black players, it meant a lot more.
16:17
It was something they truly loved, something
16:19
that was worth the isolation
16:22
and hardship of moving across the country.
16:25
And in football, for these young men, there
16:27
was a path to a better life, a
16:30
scholarship, a university degree, and the future
16:33
that came with it. Especially
16:35
for Ron Hill, from America's Deep South. And
16:37
the biggest thing that I have ever done
16:40
in my life, Ms. Parker, was
16:42
to be able to tell my parents, you
16:45
don't have to pay nothing for me to go to school. All
16:48
I gotta do is keep it up. You didn't
16:50
have to pay anything. No, ma'am.
16:52
That was my total
16:54
objective for being there. I wanted
16:57
to get education when my parents see
16:59
me get education and not
17:01
pay one, they not pay one penny. College
17:10
football in the U.S. is the sport with the
17:12
strongest regional loyalties. In
17:15
a town like Laramie, the team
17:17
is a second religion, and the
17:20
Saturday games are church, complete with
17:22
the singing, the community, the ecstasy.
17:25
Laramie's World Memorial Stadium holds almost as
17:27
many people as live in the town.
17:30
People descend from all over the state
17:33
to fill out the congregation. The
17:39
players is not gods, or
17:41
at least apostles. For
17:44
now, they were keeping their heads down,
17:46
doing their work, going to practice, earning
17:49
their way. Before a few
17:51
hours each week, they became
17:53
the most important people in the state.
17:56
As former Army man Mel Hamilton puts it,
17:59
Ms. Parker. Wyoming
18:01
University is the only four-year
18:04
institution in the state. They
18:09
make their football team the
18:11
greatest asset that they have.
18:15
And they love their football
18:17
team. If the team
18:19
is winning, the coach
18:21
could run for governor and
18:23
win. But
18:26
in 1969, the team was good. Really
18:30
good. Out of hundreds
18:32
of colleges, they were ranked 12th in
18:34
the whole country. John
18:37
Griffin, a calm and confident Californian,
18:39
remembers game day in Laramie. Cowboy
18:42
football is the only big thing in Wyoming. And
18:46
on any given day during
18:48
the season, you can
18:50
look out your window. We lived in McIntyre Hall,
18:52
which is where the football team
18:55
lived. We were probably
18:57
on the ninth floor, and you could see in
18:59
all directions cars coming in at 8 o'clock in
19:01
the morning for a 1.30 start. So
19:06
it made me aware then how
19:08
important cowboy football is.
19:12
And everybody treated us very,
19:14
very well, because they all wanted
19:16
to know a cowboy football player. I
19:20
know that, well, being a football player
19:22
on the Cowboys football team is a
19:24
pretty big deal in Wyoming. Did you feel like there
19:27
was a special status with being a
19:29
football player in that town? Yeah,
19:32
it had to be a great football
19:34
town because there was nothing else. Here's
19:37
player Guillermo Heisau. That was what put
19:39
them on the map was their football
19:41
program. They had designed that 1969 team
19:43
as the best ever. Their
19:49
motto was, anytime you played against us, you're
19:51
in for a fight. Every
19:53
Saturday, 60 minutes, you better be
19:55
ready because we're going to bring it to you. We're
19:58
going to have the W on the wind column as we. leave
20:00
the field. If I wasn't a football
20:02
player, I don't know how friendly people
20:04
would have been to me. This is Ted
20:06
Williams. He describes himself as the quiet one
20:08
in the bunch. I noticed that right away,
20:11
but soon you know your football player,
20:13
everybody wants to talk to you, everybody
20:16
wants to shake your hand, how
20:18
great a job you're doing. Being
20:20
a Wyoming cowboy might have met you or
20:22
a big name on campus, but
20:24
being an African-American cowboy of course
20:26
meant something a little different to
20:28
being a white cowboy, even down
20:31
to how head coach Coach Lloyd Eaton treated
20:33
you. Lloyd
20:36
Eaton was a legend in Wyoming. He had
20:39
a warm kind of doughy face. He
20:42
would wear a baseball cap, tuck a
20:44
polo shirt into his khakis, and bark
20:46
orders from the sidelines. He
20:48
was already in his 50s, but almost
20:50
alarmingly fit, and a broad
20:53
fatherly smile concealed an intense
20:55
competitor and a stickler for the
20:57
rules, who saw discipline as
20:59
the key to victory. I wanted
21:02
to talk to you a bit about Coach
21:05
Eaton. Oh, the drill
21:07
swordsman? Eaton was the coach
21:09
that got them to that point where
21:11
they had started being ranked
21:13
nationally, and that was
21:16
a first for University of Wyoming. And
21:18
so it was quite
21:20
an experience being there and knowing that
21:23
you're amongst the best. I
21:26
felt like if you
21:28
like black, they wanted
21:31
more out of us. It seemed like I
21:33
was real harder, I think, than anybody else.
21:35
I felt he'd throw balls at
21:37
you, made drills. If you drop the
21:39
ball, you made like guys line up,
21:41
you got to go through and they
21:44
slap. I was actually almost punching you
21:46
and slapping the ball out of your
21:48
hand. I felt like I was
21:51
treated pretty rough, more
21:53
like the other guys, the other white guys,
21:55
I guess. Who were your friends
21:57
on the team? Did you have any friends on the team? You
22:00
mean black-white? Black-white
22:03
either or. Oh yeah, all
22:05
the brothers on the team were pretty kosher. That
22:08
was never a dislike for any
22:11
particular one. But during the practices
22:13
and the scrimmages, some
22:15
of the players got a chance to cheap shot you. If
22:18
we practice and
22:20
the coach says, okay everybody,
22:22
have speed. So
22:25
you think you're going
22:28
to have speed. Then you step up there and here
22:30
comes this big white dude just,
22:33
boom, just plastered you and run you down. The
22:36
coaches don't say anything. So
22:38
the next time he did it, then I
22:40
retaliated. And the
22:42
coach says, you get out of here, you're back on out of
22:45
here. You
22:47
know, I was protecting myself. I
22:50
wasn't giving up my arms
22:52
and limbs to play this game. But
22:54
it was stuff like that that made
22:57
you think
23:00
seriously about what am I
23:02
doing here. It was
23:04
this kind of environment that helped make it obvious
23:06
to the players when they played Brigham Young in
23:08
Provo, Utah the previous year, there
23:11
wasn't much room to speak out. We've
23:13
been playing BYU for
23:15
a number of years. Joe Williams.
23:18
Every time we go to BYU, we couldn't
23:20
stay in the city. We had to stay
23:23
outside the city because the university
23:25
had African American players, black players
23:27
on the team. And when
23:29
we were on the field, there were some antics that
23:32
were always going on. But the one
23:34
thing that stood out more than anything
23:36
else is that when we
23:38
finished the game, they turned on the water sprinklers. You
23:40
know, let's wash all this evil off the field. put
24:00
his teachings at the center of their institutions,
24:02
including their flagship university. For
24:06
the towering Tony McGee, the
24:08
memory of the treatment of the black players
24:10
on BYU's home turf the previous year still
24:13
rang in his mind. I remember
24:15
the last game I played up there. A guy jumped
24:17
in the back of my legs, and I went up
24:19
to one of the officials and said,
24:21
look, he's doing this jumping in the back of my
24:23
legs, and I don't want to, he said, shut up
24:26
and play ball. This is what the official told me.
24:29
But that was the experience I had with BYU. But
24:33
it wasn't just the Wyoming players who had an issue
24:35
with Brigham Young. Other college
24:38
teams took issue with one of the policies
24:40
of the Church of Latter-day Saints. The
24:43
policy back then was African
24:45
Americans were not allowed to
24:47
become priests in the church.
24:50
African American women could not enter the
24:53
church. That
24:55
was the issue across the country was
24:58
that all the black student unions, along
25:00
with the Black Student Alliances, were
25:03
going to do something in
25:05
sympathy to protest against the
25:08
Latter-day Saints policies. President
25:12
of the Black Student Alliance, Willie Black,
25:14
spoke about this in 1993. Willie,
25:17
when did your involvement on this whole thing
25:19
start? Can you
25:21
set the stage a little bit so people understand
25:23
what happened? So the story was that somewhere along
25:26
the line, I became aware that the Mormon
25:29
Church owned BYU. And
25:32
I also quite accidentally became aware
25:34
of their policies regarding
25:37
their black membership. Mel
25:39
Hamilton. Ms. Parker, keep in mind
25:43
that this is in the middle
25:45
of the national revolution, I called
25:47
it, the social revolution
25:50
where blacks are doing their thing
25:52
and wanting to be recognized and
25:55
fighting for what we deserve. So
25:58
now I... You live
26:00
as my time. My.
26:03
Time to fight. Is.
26:06
My time to. Do
26:09
when I can to the revolution.
26:12
And. So I said we'd
26:14
you gotta do something Everybody
26:16
said we've gotta do something.
26:19
A number teams across the country. Who
26:22
is slated to play B Y U
26:24
for planning protests. Chileans,
26:26
And is just so happens to the
26:28
luck of the draw that we were
26:30
the next team up that to b
26:32
y u was playing when everybody across
26:34
the wagged his as they were gonna
26:36
protests. The Lack or
26:38
Less Athletic Conference. Is a college
26:41
football league in. The West of the Usa.
26:43
That. Is was just one of any protests
26:45
that happened to the Y U. B
26:48
Y U game at the University of
26:50
Wyoming The scheduled for the eighteenth of
26:52
October. Nineteen Sixty Nine. The.
26:55
Black Soon Alliance and the black
26:57
players came together to decide. Is
26:59
and how they wanted to make a stand.
27:02
Tall. Tony Mcgee for members making.
27:04
The decision to protest. The
27:06
and this proposition was put caused by
27:08
the blacks to in the lies. They
27:11
wanted to protest the way Byu fellow
27:13
but African Americans now this is where
27:15
to stories. Plus that is what they
27:18
say we were protesting to do. We
27:20
were really protest at that time. I
27:22
treat Myth on to. Final:
27:25
Grimes and we said we had no
27:27
problems with what they believe didn't believe
27:30
religion has no place or football field
27:32
anyway. Our. Problems will
27:34
have some bad things. Were treated in a
27:36
previous gay. We. Didn't like
27:38
the idea is the sprinklers the internet
27:40
on us within like the idea things
27:42
and will be in said in the
27:45
stands so as some point there had
27:47
to be a stoppage to that. We
27:49
went to all the players and we ate a meeting.
27:52
return to individuals them were married
27:54
they they should not be a
27:56
potted this because it can't afford
27:58
to lose a scholarship And
28:01
they had wives and they had responsibilities.
28:04
They didn't have to be apart, but
28:06
everybody wanted to be apart anyway. So
28:11
we went among ourselves away from
28:13
the Black Students Alliance meeting, and
28:16
we discussed what it was that we wanted
28:18
to do. And we came
28:20
up with the black armband, because
28:24
there was a universal symbol
28:27
of death, depression. Everybody
28:29
would understand what the black
28:31
armbands meant. And
28:34
so that's what we decided to do. Wearing
28:41
black armbands wouldn't have just been
28:43
a powerful symbol. It
28:45
meant taking their discontent public and
28:48
bringing politics onto the field. And
28:51
it meant telling their all powerful coach that
28:53
they were thinking about something more than
28:55
football. We had to ask
28:57
the coach for permission to be able to do that.
29:01
And so my dear friend Tony McGee says, you know, we've
29:03
got to talk to the coach about this. We can't just
29:06
arbitrarily help you guys
29:08
out without talking to the
29:10
coach about it. And that's what we
29:12
did. Was
29:14
Eaton aware of what was happening
29:16
during that game? No. Was
29:19
what was happening with y'all? Absolutely not. And
29:21
that's what we went over there to telling,
29:23
and say, coach, this is why we want
29:25
to wear armbands in the game to
29:28
protest and demonstrate
29:30
not with our black skins, because that was
29:32
the object and the locus of the whole
29:34
issue to begin with, but to
29:37
say that your views
29:39
have no place on
29:41
the gridiron. Period. That was it.
29:43
So a couple of days before the game against BYU, the
29:51
14 African-American footballers came to a decision. They
30:01
would go and ask head coach Lloyd
30:03
Eaton if they might show solidarity with
30:05
the Black Student Alliance's protest, and
30:08
ask him if they could wear black
30:10
armbands during the game. They
30:12
were Wyoming Cowboys. They were known
30:14
figures on campus and in the whole state.
30:17
Their position came with an importance and
30:19
symbolism that was almost bigger than
30:22
themselves. That gave them
30:24
the power to make a difference. But
30:27
it's clear from my conversations with many of the
30:29
guys, the priority was first
30:31
and foremost to football. They
30:33
weren't going to do anything without first clearing it
30:35
with Coach Eaton. It was a
30:38
gamble. Their coach was stern,
30:40
but he cared about keeping the team
30:42
together. They hoped he would
30:44
be sympathetic, especially to a
30:46
protest that was low key and
30:48
against the team that had treated them with
30:51
such disdain the previous year. Still,
30:54
they knew as soon as the Black
30:56
armband went on, there would be no
30:58
going back. But
31:00
none of the 14 Black players could have
31:02
predicted what happened next. Walking over,
31:05
we were very jittery, I
31:07
guess the word is. Lloyd
31:09
Eaton could go anyway. We
31:12
knew that he could do
31:14
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