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Hi , I'm Andrew . I'm an Orthodox Christian
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. I've been in the military for two
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and a half years now and
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I've been an Orthodox Christian for barely
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a year now , almost . Oh , half a year , half a year
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now . So I grew up in Massachusetts . I
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was raised Episcopalian it's
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kind of funny because my mother's Catholic
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and my dad was Episcopalian . So it was a weird
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dynamic for a little bit , but I primarily
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went . Dad was Episcopalian , so it was a weird dynamic for a little bit , but I primarily
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went to the Episcopalian church . The church I went to they had some really nice
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stained glass windows of a
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few of the stories in the Bible , as
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well as under the patron saint of St Michael , one of the archangels , archangels
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. So I thought that was all pretty cool . But as
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I kind of grew up and like I kind of
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like lost a little bit of the faith a little bit , mostly
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because it's kind of it's not really , I just
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didn't , I just didn't hit the same Because I was growing up
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there , I was going through my emotions going
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there , and when I came around high school
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age I
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was just like , okay , I'm
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tired of this , I want to like enjoy
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my whole weekends . But
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then , as I was going through high school , my mom said if you didn't know
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what you want to do after high school , she wanted me to go to seminary
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school and become a priest for the Catholic church , I believe
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, but she didn't
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really specify what church either . She's like go become
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a priest for the Catholic Church , I believe , but she didn't really specify what
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church either . She's like go become a priest . She just wanted one of her sons to become
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a priest . I'm like , okay , I'm not doing that . So I went to the military instead
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. So I went to the military . Boot
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camp was interesting because
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you have Sundays as your holiday routine
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. I
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mean , you have like a few hours off to either organize your stuff , clean
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you couldn't really sleep , you just kind of like just chilled for a few hours , but is if you
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were but you also had an opportunity to
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attend a lot of religious services . So we had
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a lot of interesting
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ones , because then your Hindu some Wicca there was like there's a Wicca
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service and of course , the Catholic Protestant Baptist , all the other Christian Hindu
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some Wicca there was a Wicca service and of course
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, the Catholic Protestant Baptist , all
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the other Christian denominations as
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well as , in
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the Islamic world , some of the Muslim
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services as well . So
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I didn't attend any of those . I
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was just too focused on just getting through boot
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camp to worry about
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that life . So
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after boot camp I went down to Pensacola , florida
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, for a little bit and
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there there was a lot of Baptists
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like kind of like on base , talking to people
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hey , you know , have you heard the word of Christ
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? And all that , and they're trying to , like you know , get
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you to go to their Bible study
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and all that , which is , I think I
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didn't go at all . But I had one of my friends who did
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go and he was baptized
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in the ocean
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with their Baptist group . What was it
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like seeing a friend
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get baptized ? So
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since I grew up Christian , I
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didn't really get the big idea
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like , oh , why is this baptism in like
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a later age , such a crazy
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idea , like why is it so meaningful
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to them ? Versus , I was just like , is
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this like good for them ? Kind
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of like underplayed it a little bit . But
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now that I've , you know , went through my own re-baptism
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, to say the least , I
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get the importance of it and why it's very meaningful
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. It's a sign of rebirth and
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all that . So
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when he got through that , he really
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did become a whole new person after that , which
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is good for him . I
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still talk to him to this day . He
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might see this , he might not . Does
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he know you're Orthodox ? He knows I'm Orthodox
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. I did invite him to my baptism
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as well . Rock band
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music for churches it's cool
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, but it's not
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for me . I couldn't really make
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it a thing for every Sunday to go to . I
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just like , all right , I need something a
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bit more tasteful
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or a bit more
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like what's the word I'm trying
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to use for this ? More reverent
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, yes , more reverent , andrew
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. Why Orthodoxy ? Though
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You're in San Diego , california , you can
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literally go to any church you can
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imagine . Where did Orthodoxy
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even first enter your radar ? The
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Orthodox Church first entered my radar when
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I was I don't
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know , I think I was in middle
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school or something . My older sister mentioned
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it as one of the first original churches
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and that kind of stayed in my mind
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all the way up until now
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. Which is crazy
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. So I was thinking about that and I was like , all
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right , I'm now , which is crazy . So I was thinking about that . I was like , all right , I'm tired
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of this Baptist church , I want to see something else
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. Like , oh , church hop , you know all right . So I'm really
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interested in this orthodoxy . What's it all about
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? So my life changed
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with orthodoxy . Well
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before I even came to the Orthodox Church I
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was kind of like in a I guess
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depression a little bit , because I came out to a
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place I didn't know . San Diego is unfamiliar territory
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. I don't know anybody out here , my family
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was not out here . I
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don't really know anyone on the ship . I don't got a whole lot of friends
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out here and the Baptist
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Church I've been going to didn't really help that . But
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when I came to the Orthodox Church I think the biggest
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thing that really changed is that I had my community
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. The big thing I was looking
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for out here was trying to find my community , that
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one I could just hang
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out with , talk to and not feel like I have to talk about
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work or anything like that , but
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just hang out with them , have fun
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. So that's probably the
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biggest thing I think the Orthodox Church really brought
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to me is that community , the light
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of life really . I
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mean I get told this all the time on the ship that hey , you know
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, when I'm not there people actually miss me . Because
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I'm this
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very fun person to be around , very rejuvenating
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person . I bring a personality of you
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know , fun and just like hey , that's
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not serious , let's not fight each other about
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this , it's reasonable , let's be reasonable
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about it . Um , which
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is something I don't really think about when I leave or
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like go do training or something , but I
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come back like hey , man , we missed you . I have people asking about
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me all the time where's where my
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aunt , where's andrea ? Even
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at the church , like , um , some of the , the
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grandmothers there , they always ask about me . Can
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you say it one more time ? Orthodoxy
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helped me get out of my
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depression and then start with
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the whole entire thing because of the community . Alright
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, cool
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, orthodoxy got me out of my depression
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when I first came to San Diego , because
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the community out here is amazing
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, especially the young adult , because
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a lot of churches I feel like I've been to have either been dominated by a lot
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of older people or just people in
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their mid-20s range . It's not like
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the whole range from like from
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cradle to grave I don't want to say that phrase , but the
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whole , you know , from very
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young to very old , has that whole
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spectrum which is just like a
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very important piece of life which I think a
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lot of people miss out on . Why I think
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orthodoxy is attracting a lot of
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young men like myself or young
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adults type deal is because it goes
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against a lot of what modernity is pushing
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towards . Very simplistic this is
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. Orthodoxy is very complex
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. There's never one answer . There's
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never a simple answer for the orthodox way
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. It's a long and
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complicated way that the only way you can explain
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it is just come and see . That's
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the only way to explain it . There's no . If
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you try to simplify it , you cut
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out so much that's so important and
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that goes on the question . It's
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going against the Mondurne , which they choose to simplify
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everything . With a lot of other churches
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they go simple . They
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usually do one specific part of Christ's
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life , whether he died for our sins and
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that they just leave them there . They don't talk about Pentecost
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or they only talk about Pentecost . They don't talk
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about his life and his struggles . Orthodoxy
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puts it all together in the
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entire year with its whole , all its seasons
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. Experiencing Lent for the first time as Orthodox
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Christian for me , since I've never
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fasted or never really done
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Lent to any
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extent , has been very difficult
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. Avoiding
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meats has been the real struggle and , as well
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as meats , dairy and
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eggs , surprisingly
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very difficult , especially with my lifestyle being
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in the military . We have a very strict
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menu and
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vegan and vegetarian options are somewhat available . Available , but they're not often the
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best and you might risk getting food poisoning . Tell
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us why . Why did you
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want to do this ? Why do
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you think this is meaningful
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for you ? I
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was going to say I'm
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going to start with a joke because I
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like being on camera . That's good , but
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in all honesty , I just wanted to talk
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about how St Anthony's as a church
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is very unique , especially
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with a lot of churches in the San Diego area , because
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it's in between a
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few different military bases . You have Camp Pelton to
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the north with the Marines , and then
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you have Naval Base San Diego
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on 32nd Street , as well as Coronado
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. You have all these different military bases around and
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all these military personnel , all these different military
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bases around and all these military personnel , and
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I just want to talk about how
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the military is like , the reason why I'm only out here . So somehow , you know , god used the
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military to evangelize and
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people in the church have seen it all the time . There's
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a whole bunch of military people getting baptized all
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the time here and they're going on deployment
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. So
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there's this big especially for St Anthony's
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. It attracts a lot of military , because military
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attracts military . That's the only way you're going
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to get them to show up . Is someone
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else in the military or someone who's daring
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enough to show up and trust
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me new , because I was a bit scared
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when I first showed up and you
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know , now I'm not and I'm excited
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, but you wanted to share this
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. I
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just want to talk about how just great
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the community out here was and it's like how
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important this , this whole entire life
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of the Saints is , is because you
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know , a lot of like Orthodoxy
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is going online . Now it's becoming more popular online
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, which is part of the reason why
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a little bit , why I showed up , started
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coming to become orthodox , because the online
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communities have been very
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active
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active . I still was an inquirer
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because this was during
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Holy Week and there's all these different services
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going on . I , just since I had nothing else to
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do , I was just like I'm just going to go to all the services , as many
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as I can , and I did . And
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then I stayed for one of the what
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do you call your event thing ? Oh
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, just a gathering . Just like a young adult
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Young adult , yeah , young adult
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bonfire . I just stayed for a gathering after church
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and they were just discussing things . And
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this was like my second or third week or something
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of us being an inquirer and
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I wasn't even technically a catechumen . They
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kind of joked around that I had an inquirer's zeal
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, which is a bit funny . Being
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right with God before deployment matters
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more so than anything else because
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I'm in the Navy , I'm
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on an old ship and
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, being a sailor , there's
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a lot of superstition of sailors . So getting
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right with God is almost a necessity because
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there's a lot of anything can go
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at sea and you're the only one that
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can maybe fix it . So if
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your ship starts flooding , starts sinking , you
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better hope you can fix it or start
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floating . And
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the same thing because with there's
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also piracy and other things going on outside
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that are affecting the Navy and
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my profession , where
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my life and where my ship could
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be in danger from either
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missiles from China or Russia type deal
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God willing not or
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just simple things like the
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ship's rocking so much that you break your leg
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on a ladder . Well , some things
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as routine as eating can become
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dangerous if you're not careful
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or if you don't make the preparations . So
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there's a lot of dangers , especially with being
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a sailor and going to sea . Getting
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right with God is a necessity . It's
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rigorous and requires discipline
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which the military kind
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of instills in you to some degree . Some
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people fight against it later on , but there's a certain level of discipline given to you in the military kind of instills in you to some degree . Some people fight against it later on , but
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there's a certain level of discipline given to you in the
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military and the Orthodox Church kind
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of . You can also
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use that discipline from the military in the Orthodox Church
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in a lot of its routines , whether morning prayers
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, evening prayers , prayers before meals
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. Hi , my name's Andrew . I'm
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an Orthodox Christian . My favorite Bible verse is
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Psalm 144 . The
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reason why that's my favorite Bible verse is because it's about
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God preparing for you , preparing
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you for war , as well
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as saying that he is your fortress and protecting
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you while you're at war . And since
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I'm in the military it's a bit more meaningful
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than some of the other . But
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also the Bible has a lot of verses about preparing
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for war . So there's
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that . I
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chose St Andrew , the first called . The
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reason why I chose that one is because I was the first
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one in my family to become orthodox
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and also
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I thought it was fitting that I would choose that one and
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keep my first name . I didn't want to
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change my name to be something really interesting
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or too crazy where I wouldn't really
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respond to it , so I just stuck
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with Andrew . Hi , I'm Andrew . I'm
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an Orthodox Christian . I'm an Operations Specialist
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Second Class in the United States , navy Woo
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, that's it . That was West America
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.
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