3:17

The

4:00

king with probably maybe

4:03

like maybe some sort

4:05

of spectrum autism, Masperger's

4:08

just the way that he's described in some of his behaviors

4:10

sound like that kind of disposition

4:12

or that kind of thing. He's

4:14

the guy who's really pious. Is this Ringing a Bell, AJ? Yeah.

4:17

Okay. Really pious, really kind of like

4:21

as he's gotten older, a little more melancholic,

4:26

a little more dopey just because so many people

4:28

are dying around him and his inability

4:30

to lead has led to this. His

4:33

father was Henry V, was supposed to be this great

4:35

king and Henry VI life's been kind of sad. We

4:37

don't know where he is. We lost him. He's up somewhere. We'll

4:40

find him later. Turns

4:42

out he's having a great time. So don't worry about Henry. He's

4:45

having the time of his life. That's for him. Yeah, he's actually

4:47

in a monastery. He is in a monastery.

4:49

He found his way to a bunch of monks. So he's in

4:52

a monastery and he's also hanging out with a dude

4:54

named John Maeschel.

4:56

It was just like this not really,

4:58

I mean, he was probably a gentry, a gentleman,

5:01

but wasn't really fancy and just had

5:03

like a nice little estate. And this hobo

5:05

shows up one day and finds, turns

5:09

out that it's King Henry VI. So he's hanging out with

5:11

John Maeschel and a bunch of monks in the

5:14

north just having the time of his life. In

5:16

fact, if you look at the cover of the Oxford Shakespeare,

5:18

Henry VI, there he is. Oh, wow. There's

5:20

our dude, Henry VI. Oh, cool. AJ,

5:23

describe what you're seeing. He has

5:25

on what looks like a monk's habit, a little belt on there,

5:27

a little pouch, same pack, holding what looks like

5:29

a Bible. He's shrugging

5:31

his shoulders like, eeeh. He

5:34

doesn't look happy. He doesn't look happy. That is under

5:36

the hour. He dropped his

5:38

wallet and he's looking for it. Or he's like, where

5:40

did I put that package of mushrooms? I

5:42

can't remember. And there's a very famous scene in

5:45

Henry VI by Shakespeare where a bunch

5:47

of peasants are like, look

5:49

at this crazy hobo. And he's like, I'm kidding.

5:51

And the students are like, ah, shut up, you crazy hobo. He's

5:55

just a kid. Anyway,

5:57

so it's great. Incredible rendition.

5:59

Thank you.

5:59

Well done so Margaret and Edward

6:02

the Prince of Wales are in France. They're defeated Edward

6:05

the fourth had his to-do

6:07

list which is how we ended the last episode

6:09

his to-do list was Take care of

6:11

the Lancaster's did that check

6:14

Take care of France

6:15

well, meanwhile in France there's

6:17

a new king and his name is Louis the 11th

6:20

and Louis the 11th is Capable

6:23

and you know a good king his dad was the

6:25

guy who was crazy who thought he was a window

6:27

window Yeah, window guy. Mm-hmm. So he's dead and

6:29

Louis the 11th is capable and Louis doesn't want

6:32

and Edward the fourth is

6:34

if we remember a bit of a bro He

6:38

was the guy who Tried to

6:40

make peace with the Lancaster with the son

6:42

of Somerset also named Somerset so

6:44

he tried to be he and Somerset became best friends

6:47

they went hunting together and Then

6:49

another flare-up of the war happened and Somerset Double-crossed

6:52

him and went back to the Lancaster side remember this

6:54

and he was upset so we beheaded him anyway So

6:58

Edward the fourth was a very capable wartime

7:00

King So the Louis the 11th

7:03

is like I don't want any part of this I

7:05

don't want to have fighting with France. Let's

7:07

just sort of like cut a cut a deal We're not

7:09

going to basically Louis said we're not going to involve

7:12

ourselves in your civil war

7:14

We're cool

7:15

and ever the fourth. Okay, Edward the fourth made peace with France

7:18

awesome a Third

7:20

to-do list reward your

7:23

best advisor and his best

7:25

advisor who helped him with everything is a guy by

7:27

the name of Warwick Warwick

7:30

and his brother a Northumberland

7:32

have basically,

7:34

they had championed the Yorkish cause

7:37

all this time and Warwick

7:39

becomes worked about 13 years

7:41

older than Henry Sorry Edward Edward is 22 And

7:44

so war works kind of like in his 30s in his prime

7:46

of life and is now the biggest Landowner

7:49

owner in England and the wealthiest

7:51

person in the kingdom Awesome

7:54

is more for the king or probably he has more land

7:56

than the king dang Yeah, but he doesn't have the same

7:58

power that the king does sure But he has been rewarded

8:01

with the most land. It's like Bezos versus

8:03

the president. That's right. So,

8:05

so Warwick is rewarded for

8:07

his loyalty. Took care of the French, took care of the Lancasters.

8:10

You're a young, handsome, 22-year-old kid. What's

8:13

next? Woman. You

8:15

need a wife? Yeah. You

8:18

need an heir. So you are the king of England, but you

8:20

have this kind of dopey

8:22

problem floating around in the north named Henry VI

8:25

that no one really knows where he is. Until you have a

8:27

kid. Looking for his drop to my right. Looking

8:29

for his drop. He's just like, you know, I don't

8:31

know, eaten, eaten like a fish.

8:33

He's eaten herring up in the north. Sounds

8:37

like a good life. It's a great life. Henry VI is having

8:39

a blast. He's going to be

8:41

real upset when he has to get dragged back into there.

8:44

That's what I was going to say. The kids go well. I

8:46

know. So Edward IV needs a kid. He

8:48

needs to have a child in order

8:51

to sort of legitimize

8:54

his claim and everybody to sort of like get on

8:56

board with his line because he is very

8:59

much a usurper. He

9:01

was claimed legitimacy because technically

9:04

Henry VI turned his heir to

9:06

Edward

9:06

IV's dad.

9:07

And

9:10

then when he died, Edward IV became king. So he's

9:12

like, I'm totally, totally legitimate. But

9:15

people are like, I don't really know how we feel about that.

9:18

So much so that Edward IV would do things like

9:20

he got a genealogy made

9:23

starting from Adam and Eve and

9:25

ending with Edward IV. Just

9:28

to show the line of God's favor through

9:30

history to him, just in case

9:32

people were curious. Had some questions. Yeah. That's

9:35

funny. So that's pretty cool. But the

9:37

thing is, we could all do- What do you call it? Is

9:39

it a genealogist? I don't know. Is that the

9:41

name of the practice? I guess. Apparently he had some that

9:43

went pretty hard. I would think from like, I don't know, the year 4000

9:46

to maybe like 800, it would be a little

9:49

fuzzy, a little real booby in there. But

9:52

anyway, so he had that made just

9:54

in case people were curious as to how much favor

9:57

he had. But-

10:00

You guys will also probably remember do you

10:02

remember the one characteristic that Edward the

10:04

fourth was known for? No,

10:07

come on. You gotta remember from last episode. I don't

10:10

remember anything. How long is it been? It's been a while

10:12

Yeah, he's a Randy dude. Oh, he

10:15

loves the ladies old ladies

10:17

rich ladies poor ladies married ladies unmarried

10:20

ladies barwinches Up

10:23

to noble ladies. He doesn't discriminate Edward

10:27

the fourth had reputation for Letchery

10:31

so much so that a bunch of Italians

10:34

would even make like plays based

10:36

after him because I Yes, the

10:39

Italians enjoyed lecherous plays. Okay

10:42

about Edward the fourth. Okay, so he

10:44

had this reputation for Yeah

10:47

for for Let's just say there

10:49

was a lot of maybe like Edward the fourth looking

10:52

street urchins in the world if you know

10:54

what I'm saying Okay, okay, so maybe some

10:56

bastards out there. Yeah Okay, so was

10:58

it we got it. Oh crap. We got to lock this down We got

11:00

to get him a wife and who can we get for

11:03

our wandering eyed bro of

11:05

Edward the fourth? So And

11:07

there's another problem He

11:10

was Glorious in

11:13

war and actually there's a wonderful

11:15

quote by Churchill about Edward the fourth that

11:17

I'm gonna read about this So here we go

11:23

King Edward the fourth had made good his right

11:25

to the crown upon the field He

11:27

was a soldier and a man of action in

11:29

the teeth of danger His quality

11:31

was at its highest in war nothing

11:34

daunted or wearied him long marches

11:36

hazardous decisions The marshalling

11:38

of armies the conduct of battles seemed

11:41

his natural sphere the

11:43

worst things got the better he

11:45

became But the opposite

11:47

was also true. Oh, no He

11:50

was at this time of fighting man and little more

11:52

and when the fighting stopped He had no serious

11:55

zest for sovereignty the land was

11:57

fair the blood of youth coursed in

11:59

his veins All his blood debts were paid

12:02

with with ease and goodwill. He sheathed

12:04

his sharp sword It had won him

12:06

his crown now to enjoy

12:09

life So he didn't really want

12:11

to rule very much He

12:16

Wasn't that you know great of a when

12:18

it came to peacetime Political

12:20

intrigue not his thing. Yeah, not like he liked an enemy

12:23

he could see in slice And

12:25

this is kind of one of the tragedies. Maybe not the tragedies.

12:27

This is sort of one of the realities of of

12:32

politics that are bent around

12:35

these like Bonds

12:37

of honor on the battlefield I

12:41

think I've said it before that the war of the roses

12:43

is really a transition of England from

12:45

this more sort of tribal

12:48

my word is my bond kind of way

12:50

of ruling to what is going to become

12:53

a rule of law as opposed

12:55

to a rule of documentation and

12:58

there's a lot you know and sort of the history of

13:00

Civilization sort of maturing is always

13:02

this move from these close

13:05

family Connections to

13:07

a rule of law like we live

13:09

in America. We have a rule of law If

13:12

something were to happen to our families

13:15

We would go to the authorities. We

13:17

would not take up some kind of like

13:19

honor bound feud and so This

13:22

is sort of the movement that's happening in England at this

13:24

time is sort of The end

13:27

of this honor-based society to what's

13:29

moving more towards this more complicated

13:31

law-based society So anyway, he

13:33

is a man who has won Friends

13:36

and allies and everyone he is he is

13:38

very capable in war But

13:42

just because you're capable in war does not mean that you're gonna

13:44

be a good administrator in peacetime And

13:46

so he's kind of bored with it. He doesn't want to bother with

13:48

all this kind of nonsense He

13:51

loves hunting. He loves philandering

13:55

And he doesn't really want to deal with like

13:57

Parliament and taxes and all that kind of stuff, but guess

13:59

what? who does

14:01

Warwick. So

14:03

Warwick and his brother Northumberland, they

14:06

basically go to Edward and

14:08

they're like, hey man, you

14:10

threw down super

14:11

hard out there. We're proud of you, sport.

14:13

You did a great, like you won your crown,

14:16

the people love you. I think it's time,

14:18

I think it's time to crush

14:20

a couple wine and you know,

14:22

have some fun and you're young, you're

14:24

handsome, do your thing. We'll

14:27

take care of it. Well we got this. We

14:29

got all this boring stuff, we'll take care of the boring stuff. Edward

14:31

was like. Immediately said yes, right? Seriously guys,

14:34

that's awesome because I was thinking the same thing. And

14:36

this is wonderful, let's do this. And Warwick's like,

14:38

my lord, your wish is my command. So

14:41

Warwick and Northumberland basically run the country. So

14:44

much so that some of the

14:47

French ambassadors where

14:50

jokingly would sign their documents,

14:53

when they were in England, they would sign their documents to

14:55

send back to France saying, England is ruled

14:57

by two men, Warwick, and I forget

15:00

the other guy. That was, we have a document that says

15:02

that. It's like Warwick and I don't remember the name

15:04

of the other guy, someone, someone else. Edward,

15:06

king of England, all right. So

15:09

it's wife time. It

15:11

is, so what? Why is that funny? It's

15:14

wife time, we gotta get a wife. So

15:17

there are a lot

15:20

of candidates for a wife. And if you could have babies,

15:26

this meant that the Lancaster cause would

15:29

go way down. It's

15:31

a little tight, you know, and the people of England

15:33

were actually kind of embarrassed that their king

15:36

was sort of known to basically

15:38

sleep with anything with a pulse, so that was not

15:41

great. And so people

15:43

were kind of hoping for the king to settle down and get

15:45

a wife. So

15:46

they called this council.

15:49

Basically it was like, let's

15:51

choose Edward, a wife day. And

15:54

I think it was in Reading, and they

15:56

had a whole list of all these available

15:58

women and a bunch of. Was

16:00

there a fashion show? That's all there was not

16:02

a fashion show. Did they parade them? No, but this

16:05

this day is not gonna go the way we hope Oh Anyway,

16:08

so they they have this day at Reading wherever

16:10

they all the lords get together and they

16:12

bring Edward He's not

16:14

into it, right? Well, they're listening a man's

16:16

time for wife and he is humming and hawing and

16:18

he's like dragging his heels He doesn't even want to go

16:21

doesn't want to talk about it I mean, I can understand

16:23

that it'd be weird if everyone was like we got these 20

16:25

girls. Yeah, you don't know 22 23 He

16:28

doesn't want to settle then he doesn't want to want it. Yeah.

16:30

Yeah, so he's dragging your feet So

16:32

he comes to this and so let's talk through some of

16:34

the ladies that we have. Okay, of course Like

16:36

a more awkward bachelor. Yeah, so here we go There's

16:40

a good so we need to ally

16:43

ourselves with other nations other strong nations

16:46

So here are some of the candidates Isabella

16:48

of Spain. Okay, that sounds great

16:51

She is the sister of the ruler of Spain

16:54

and his name is Henry the impotent.

16:56

Mmm And yeah, got a pretty good shot of getting

16:59

some land out of that. Yeah, so he's a problem Henry the impotent

17:01

has a certain problem that involves an

17:03

Air, yeah So

17:06

Isabella of Spain she she cute Spanish.

17:08

She rich. She might um, you know, you

17:11

might have you might get all of Castile Just

17:13

as a kicker, right? So that's great. So she

17:15

is an option and that's like people's number

17:17

one option um Big

17:20

big nation Isabella. I mean she's

17:22

Spanish Swarthy. Hmm Okay

17:26

Why do you ever sounds like a good thing? Oh, really?

17:28

It just means dark colored, right? Like yeah.

17:30

Yeah And you see Spanish

17:33

that little brown eyes that kind of thing fire I don't

17:35

know why Swarthy always just makes you sound like

17:37

a pirate right? It's more me and what it's not really Yeah,

17:40

sort of like swampy. Yeah, it's won't be. All right. There

17:42

is Somebody floated

17:44

as a like as a dark horse candidate

17:47

the mother of The

17:51

Scottish King James III I think he was like a

17:53

little kid and husband had died

17:55

and mother was like the

17:57

Queen consort of Scotland And

18:00

people were like, that could be a good match. Scotland

18:02

and England together, except if

18:05

Edward IV had a reputation for being

18:07

kind of Randy, her reputation

18:09

put Edwards to shame. Oh, no.

18:12

So lots of people were not cool with that.

18:15

I feel like with a wink and a nod, that dude would get along pretty well.

18:17

You would think so. They probably already have. And

18:23

so that kind of rubbed people the wrong

18:25

way. But so, but the mother

18:27

of Scottish James III was an option. But that

18:29

kind of, but Scotland and England, I don't

18:31

know, maybe not, but that could have worked. There

18:35

was a beautiful, it was reportedly

18:38

one of the most beautiful women in the

18:40

world at the time who was from

18:42

Burgundy. And Burgundy

18:44

was the natural enemy of Louis

18:46

XI. And so we were like,

18:49

okay, maybe we can marry Burgundy and stick it to

18:51

the French at all at the same time. But

18:54

Warwick didn't want that match. Because

18:57

Warwick, actually Warwick really wanted

18:59

England and France to get along. And

19:02

he, and Warwick really championed

19:05

that Edward IV would marry

19:07

Bona of Savoy. Okay.

19:10

So poor Bona. I don't know if it's pronounced Bona or Bona,

19:13

but Bona of Savoy was the French

19:16

option. And

19:18

Warwick wanted Edward

19:21

to marry Bona. And I don't

19:23

know the name like Bona. I don't know

19:25

anything about Bona of Savoy, but

19:29

Edward was not into it. He was not

19:31

into any of these things. Isabella

19:33

of Spain with her brother, the impotent,

19:36

the Hottie from Burgundy. I can't remember her name. I

19:38

just wrote down Hottie from Burgundy. Probably not very nice. Was

19:40

she cute? She was. She was reportedly the most

19:42

beautiful woman in the world at the time. Oh,

19:44

and he's not into it. He's not into it. Bona

19:48

Savoy or the Randi mother of James

19:50

III. None of these women. Caught

19:53

as fancy. Caught as fancy. I feel like there's a lot of good options right

19:55

now. And at some point the ministers came. up

20:00

to Edward and they like put him up in the middle of

20:02

the room and they're like Edward buddy

20:05

what's going on why aren't you gonna

20:07

marry any of our girls you got to choose one of them

20:10

and Edward said I'm

20:13

already married yeah

20:18

and it was like what

20:21

you bear you very badly I did very

20:23

well that's very good Edward the fourth had

20:25

been secretly married for five

20:27

months yeah okay

20:30

so this is she working class

20:32

oh yeah well she is not very noble

20:35

so her name was Elizabeth

20:38

Woodville and so

20:40

let's talk a little bit about Elizabeth Woodville so the story goes

20:43

that Edward the fourth was

20:45

on a hunting party in the north somewhere it was

20:48

cold it was nighttime and

20:52

he rested for the night at a castle and

20:55

in this place the castle had a

20:57

niece named Elizabeth

21:00

Woodville and she was the widow

21:02

the castle had a niece sorry they got a lean to

21:04

so the sorry the owner

21:11

of the castle had a niece named Elizabeth

21:13

Woodville she was a wood what

21:16

is like a wood every the fourth is like 22 23 Elizabeth

21:18

Woodville 26 27 she's

21:24

older okay she's widowed she

21:26

was married to a dude named Lord gray sir

21:29

John Gray who

21:31

was a staunch supporter of the

21:33

Lancaster's the other side right

21:37

she had two boys our two kids maybe

21:39

I think they're both boys with Sir John

21:41

Gray and Sir John Gray was killed

21:43

at one of the Battle of St. Albans oh

21:46

we've had two battles with eight albums and Sir

21:48

John Gray was killed at one of them and Elizabeth

21:50

Woodville was widowed the

21:52

Woodvails were not a noble family her

21:55

so it's kind of strange so her mother was

21:57

named yeah okay And

22:00

Jaquetta or Jaquetta she was

22:03

married to a very noble person

22:07

What was his name? Was it Duke of Bedford? He

22:09

was a Duke of Bedford Let

22:12

me see Yes, John

22:14

Duke of Bedford if people who are

22:16

listening to this episode all the way through remember

22:19

who Bedford is you guys not Remember who

22:21

the king is? So

22:23

the John Duke of Bedford he was one of the main He

22:25

was one of the main characters back and he

22:27

like was sticking into the French and he

22:29

was hardcore and he and you Keta

22:32

was married to him. He's a guy that died under his horse

22:34

in France Wasn't there a guy that was over there

22:36

just battling the French and then eventually got killed over there?

22:41

Like a pirate yeah, no, I know I can't

22:43

remember if no Bedford didn't die in her source I

22:45

know who you're thinking of thinking of but I can't remember who

22:47

that was That's all he was doing was out there. Just stick it to the

22:49

French on anyway so

22:52

Bedford was brother to King Henry the fifth

22:55

I think One of the brothers. All right.

22:57

So anyway, she so you can't it was married to

22:59

a pretty noble dude And then he

23:01

died and she married again But

23:04

she married this guy named Richard Woodvale

23:06

who was not very noble. In fact

23:09

He was so unnoble That

23:12

her marrying him was a massive Condescension

23:16

and apparently back in those days if you married

23:19

way far below your station you got fined

23:22

Yeah, really? Yes, the

23:24

Churchill says this

23:25

this condensation condensation So

23:29

far below her station caused offense

23:31

to the aristocracy She was fined

23:33

a thousand pounds as a deterrent to

23:35

others So she married

23:37

some dude who was so common. Yeah

23:40

that That

23:42

his wife has I had to take like a financial hit

23:44

like don't you let this happen again thousand

23:47

bucks, please and everyone else She married the king.

23:49

Yeah. Yeah. So no, no, this is the mother decadam.

23:51

Oh, so the mother Married Woodvale

23:54

and then and then but she must have

23:56

loved Richard Woodvale because she had 13 kids

23:59

with him Yeah, well and

24:01

with Elizabeth being one of them. Yeah something

24:04

like five brothers and anyway, 13

24:07

children, so Elizabeth Woodvale is from

24:09

a Not

24:12

there's a couple of things things with this a

24:14

not very noble family Yeah, she

24:17

is an English woman. No King

24:19

of England had married an English

24:22

woman

24:23

Ever

24:24

they were the subjects if you think of most

24:26

of the kings of England they still consider themselves

24:29

to be Not French,

24:32

but they weren't Anglo-saxon like

24:34

they were Lancaster's in New York. They were from

24:37

you know better places.

24:39

They're the aristocracy The

24:41

these were the subjects and Edward

24:43

the fourth was marrying a subject. So

24:46

this was like people were like Some

24:48

people freaked out about this not cool with this. So

24:51

you can't this is a clash of

24:54

culture as well This is

24:56

new money old money kind of stuff Yeah, you

24:58

have to imagine that Elizabeth Woodvale I kind of

25:00

I don't know why but I have like Juno Temple's

25:02

character from from Ted

25:05

Lasso in my head Juno

25:07

Temple, I'm with her the girl. They're like,

25:09

I'm a what's her name? Do you eat Kili?

25:11

Yeah, she's great I know she's great in the show But

25:14

I have that kind of like lower class

25:16

kind of gaudy British but she turns out to have

25:18

a heart of gold She's got a heart of gold. Anyway, so

25:20

so he comes in and shocks everybody. I'm married

25:23

to this woman so the story was he was hunting

25:25

she was there and You

25:28

know, what is the one of the main characteristics

25:30

of our buddy Edward the fourth? Oh,

25:32

yeah Children

25:41

Cool yeah, yeah,

25:43

we rewind it back now. Yeah, we can't do it now A

25:48

man of wandering eye. Yeah Thank

25:50

you Anyway, so

25:52

but the story goes all right that I

25:55

mean to overstep The

25:57

story goes that a little bit class myself This

26:00

is it. Yeah, you wouldn't have made it in there. So

26:02

the Elizabeth Woodville

26:04

the story goes was like she was

26:06

turning down the king of England She's like I get

26:09

your hands off me like not a thing and

26:12

the king was like I love her. I Love

26:15

you She was like you you

26:18

put your your

26:19

your you know words back in your

26:21

face, sir and She

26:24

and he was like, oh no you and

26:27

you need to be my wife and this went on for

26:29

like the time that he was Hunting and

26:31

she jokingly was like you want you want

26:33

to get into my bed You got to make me your wife Queen of

26:35

England and he was like done Wow done Apparently

26:39

one of the old stories happens where he

26:41

was so sort of aggressive towards her

26:44

with his love You know like the Pepe Le Pew,

26:46

you know that I imagine he's like, oh, I

26:48

love you. You wildly offensive French

26:50

care again Yeah, he was sort

26:52

of like that. The story goes that she

26:54

had to fend him off with a dagger Wow So

26:58

like the king of England was like I love you,

27:00

baby, and she was like you back off. She had a dagger

27:04

but then eventually she acquiesced

27:06

and they got secretly married and Became,

27:10

you know husband and wife, but they couldn't talk about it right

27:12

for five months. They had this Secret

27:15

love that's right That's

27:17

a fun room it's a great now this thing is this actually

27:19

charmed a lot of people in England So

27:23

but she was really low-born. She was so

27:25

low-born that actually it turns out

27:27

that Edward the fourth had met her father

27:31

He was Richard Woodvale. He was known

27:33

as Rivers. That was his

27:35

land. So he he was a

27:37

Lord Rivers Duke of Rivers What is he? Anyway

27:43

he's just known as Rivers

27:46

was his sort of title but

27:49

he was so low-born that And

27:52

he remember him he fought for the Lancaster's

27:55

so actually turns out that Henry sorry

27:58

Edward the fourth had met his

28:00

now father-in-law years before when he

28:02

was a kid. And it

28:04

was one of these like early battles of

28:06

the war of the roses and the landcasters

28:09

were captured. He actually captured the

28:11

Earl of, I think it was Earl of Rivers, he captured him. And

28:16

Edward IV and somebody else actually

28:18

like put the Earl of

28:20

Rivers captured in the middle of like

28:23

a circle and they just spent like an hour trashing

28:25

him about how low born he was. And

28:28

just sort of like making fun of how like

28:31

inferior his stock was in this

28:33

world. Let me see if I can find

28:35

the quote. Sounds like a wonderful bunch. And then he's like,

28:37

oh, you're my father-in-law now. Whoops. So

28:40

that's kind of, yeah,

28:42

here he is. Let's see, I'll read

28:44

the passage here from Dan Jones' History

28:47

of the War of the Roses. Let's

28:49

see. Just

28:52

to do appropriately given Lord Rivers' connections

28:57

to Henry VI, the Woodveils had

28:59

been loyal land castorians and active participants

29:02

in the wars against the orchards. Rivers

29:04

was one of those assembling a fleet for Henry

29:06

VI at Sandwich in January 1460

29:09

when he and his comrades were kidnapped in a lightning

29:12

raid by the Earl of Warwick

29:15

and taken for interrogation at Calais. It

29:17

was at Calais indeed that Rivers had his first

29:19

encounter with the future Edward IV, his future

29:22

son-in-law. For an humiliating

29:24

torch-lit ceremony before

29:27

assembled Yorkless participants, Warwick

29:29

and Edward, then the Earl of March, had

29:32

re-hetted, that is, berated and

29:34

scolded the captive Lord Rivers

29:37

for his humble upbringing, calling him

29:39

a knave's son and scoffing

29:41

at his ignoble blood. So

29:43

there we go. And

29:45

then they were released and they went off to go fight. So

29:48

turns out Edward IV had already met his father-in-law years

29:50

ago and was making fun of him for being

29:52

like poor and lame. But

29:56

now he's married to his daughter. Hey, because

29:58

she's cute and charming. Happy Thanksgiving. Exactly.

30:01

Yeah. And so, but there's a couple of problems.

30:04

She's poor. And because

30:07

she was on the Lancasterian side, basically her

30:09

entire family, all 13 of them, her

30:12

five brothers and however many sisters, I think

30:14

it was five brothers, were all disinherited

30:17

and they were supposed to be noble,

30:19

but mom

30:19

married a blessed noble person.

30:23

And she's like, I'm your queen

30:25

now. I want you to

30:28

like make us whole. Bring my family

30:30

back into the station. And

30:33

Edward was like, yes. He says, yes. I

30:36

love you. Of course. She

30:38

has kids already. And he's like,

30:41

awesome. Your boys are now like lords

30:43

and he gave them titles, which becomes a problem.

30:45

But the thing is in England,

30:47

people kind of like the story. Here

30:49

you have a king who's young, who's won

30:52

his crown through like martial

30:54

prowess and he's handsome. And

30:56

they've just lived through years of like, so,

30:59

so, so as their king, right? They just

31:01

lived through years of Henry the sixth being kind of

31:03

mopi dopi and everyone being like, hope

31:05

he snaps out of it and man's up one day. And

31:08

now you've got handsome, throw

31:10

down bro king. You kind of have

31:12

to like, you know, well, now

31:14

he's married to this woman and

31:17

maybe she's going to keep him alive. She didn't. He

31:20

would be, I mean, there

31:23

was rumored that she sort of

31:25

allowed Edward to continue

31:27

his extracurricular activities. Just

31:31

as long as he always came home. But

31:35

that she was too English. He

31:38

basically was marrying a subject, which for the aristocracy

31:40

was too, was gross. And

31:43

this was a super socially ambitious family

31:45

and they had all of the guidance

31:48

of a new money entering into this old

31:50

money conflict. You know what I mean? When I say new money,

31:53

you know, I'm getting at new money. They

31:55

don't fit in right. The part of it, right?

31:57

That's right. But it works out for the family.

32:00

Right? Yeah, the Woodvails are all of

32:02

a sudden so He

32:05

actually Edward the fourth Raises

32:08

up members of her families and cousins and all this kind

32:10

of stuff remember They were members of the losing side of

32:12

the Civil War and he ends up

32:14

creating eight new peerages

32:17

now peerages like the Earl of so-and-so the

32:19

Duke of such-and-such and there was only 60 peerages

32:24

in the realm and only 50 of

32:26

those peerages were allowed to attend Parliament

32:29

the House of Lords So

32:32

when there's only 50 politically

32:34

influential or 60 politically influential

32:37

Titles and you go and make

32:40

eight new ones to your new

32:42

family. This was This

32:46

was like Noxious

32:48

to the people. I mean how do you have to invent land or did

32:50

he take the land from somebody? Yeah, you would do a crown

32:53

or a thing like I would do you would divide things

32:55

into into things Cuz you gotta give him

32:57

something right you got to give him something so

32:59

you invent new titles So a little over some of the titles

33:01

he invented I think he invented Let's

33:04

see if I can find them Where was

33:06

it? Oh? No those guys

33:09

come later, so he's inventing different

33:11

titles. I think no

33:13

mo bray already existed. I can't

33:15

remember He's

33:18

inventing these new peerages and that means

33:20

you got to marry people so people are getting married to these

33:22

like not forced weddings But I was like hey

33:24

you marry this person you're gonna get this title

33:27

and the Woodvale family had this like

33:29

massive fast social

33:31

rise and Warwick

33:34

is not happy yeah works like dude.

33:36

You gotta marry Bonnie. She had a Mary Bonif Savoy

33:39

She was perfect. She would have allied us with France Isabel

33:44

the Spaniard apparently wrote

33:46

this like Very

33:48

angry passionate letter about how

33:51

not only was she but the entire

33:53

nation of Castile Had been

33:55

betrayed by the treasonous

33:58

English and you know very passionate.

34:00

Yeah. And so she's upset,

34:04

Bona is upset, the

34:06

cutie from Burgundy is

34:08

probably not happy, and

34:12

you married a common lady.

34:14

It's not common, but you married like, you know,

34:16

yeah, you married a subject and

34:19

he's in love with her, loves her, and

34:21

then also loves everybody else.

34:24

So he makes eight new peerages

34:27

and this was wildly seen to be excessive.

34:30

This was, whoa, whoa, hey buddy, we,

34:33

what about you're, you know, not being

34:35

all that interested in politics, but

34:37

doesn't matter.

34:42

Louis the 11th is mad about

34:44

this. He's like, I gave you Bona, and

34:47

you don't want Bona. So Louis

34:49

11th is mad, and so he's off hatching plans

34:51

against England. And

34:53

these peerages that he invented got

34:56

so excessive, there was one marriage where

34:58

some 20 year old kid, so some 20

35:00

year old boy, ended up getting married to the 80

35:03

year old Dowager of Norfolk to

35:05

secure the peerage. So

35:07

people are like, that can't, that's not right. A 20 year

35:09

old can't marry an 80 year old woman. She

35:12

was probably fine with it. So this 80

35:14

year old Dowager of Norfolk

35:24

marries this like 20 year old Woodvale

35:26

kid. I don't know if it was Woodvale, but it was definitely

35:29

from that side. And these people

35:31

were like, that doesn't even have the pretense

35:33

of like a proper marriage. This

35:36

is totally political. And

35:39

so Warwick is starting to get

35:41

a little nervous. He's like, we spent all this time,

35:43

blood and treasure, to get rid of the

35:46

the the Lancaster's. We

35:48

were supposed to forge a new kingdom

35:50

where we can, like, and the crown piece

35:53

of foreign, a foreign policy

35:56

that we could have was Edward

35:58

IV getting married. Warwick

36:00

is miffed. He's a little ticked. He's a little upset. Yeah,

36:03

okay. I was moving on so Louis

36:06

11th He was mad that Bonnie didn't get married Isabel

36:08

of Castile real mad and Warwick was mast

36:11

of them all Okay, let's talk

36:13

about meanwhile meanwhile Henry

36:17

the sixth Dear sweet

36:20

boy Henry the sixth is up in the north

36:23

in a monastery loving loving

36:25

life eating very Simple monastic

36:27

food living with a dude named John May shell.

36:30

Oh boy. Yeah time for Vesper exactly

36:32

Yeah is praying all day long and

36:36

and So

36:38

has a candle exactly what luxuries

36:42

But then John May shell's brother

36:45

was like We're

36:47

sitting on a gold mine here and he betrays

36:50

his brother and basically tells

36:52

the government Hey, we I think I've

36:54

got him in six in my house They

36:56

come at breakfast one day kicked down the door

36:59

Henry actually escapes for a couple days and lives in

37:01

the woods cool But he eventually

37:03

gets arrested this kid just clearly does not want

37:05

to be king He doesn't want to be king. He eventually gets arrested

37:08

and he gets brought back to The

37:11

tower he gets brought back to an Edward the fourth The

37:15

reading of the Miranda rights on that one had to be weird like

37:17

what am I getting arrested for being king? Yeah

37:19

being the wrong king now if

37:22

this was any other civil war and

37:24

you arrested you Captured the head of state

37:26

from the other side. What would you do with him? You

37:28

would kill him but but Henry the face

37:30

is too pathetic to kill right so to

37:33

they just don't murder him Wow, they probably then

37:35

they probably know you shouldn't murder somebody But

37:37

like there is this politically it may have been politically

37:40

makes a lot of sense but if he comes back and

37:42

he's just like a sulky

37:43

bag and they're like

37:44

Can we so can

37:47

you live in the tower? He's like fine and they let him

37:49

live in the tower and let him keep doing is like monastic things

37:51

They give him a fancy they him like nice robes.

37:54

Oh cool, and he gets to drink wine He

37:56

gets good food, and he is in the tower. He's definitely

37:58

a prisoner candle yeah

38:01

so he is in the Tower of London

38:03

as a big prisoner and this is a massive win

38:06

for Edward the fourth yeah but

38:08

he sort of secures everything because they have everything they have this King

38:11

floating in the air the only problem

38:13

they have now is Margaret and the Prince

38:15

of Wales and the Prince of Wales like background

38:18

that is my in the air of the throne not you Edward

38:21

and so Margaret and the Prince of Wales are in

38:23

England or in France and who

38:25

did Edward the fourth just tick

38:27

off by not marrying Vanna of Savoy

38:30

the 11th Louie the 11th yeah so Louie

38:32

the 11th sort of begins to be

38:34

like hey

38:35

Margaret hey Marge Marge II how's the hard

38:37

things

38:37

going like here you had a rough time just want

38:40

you to know that I is your kinsman I'm

38:42

on your side girl and so you

38:44

know Margaret is there and so and

38:46

Warwick's nose in the back of his mind Margaret

38:49

is my bitter enemy one

38:51

day she is gonna get an army and she's

38:53

gonna invade England and

38:56

she wouldn't have done that if we marry

38:58

you to Bona if you just married Bona we

39:00

could have secured a treaty forever

39:03

right but Edward the fourth didn't want to marry Bona

39:05

okay so Warwick's mad about this the

39:07

whole politics thing is falling apart but

39:12

now it's airtime okay so the King

39:14

is like whatever it doesn't matter and the King is now

39:16

kind of growing in his own like he's throwing

39:19

his weight around like Warwick duly

39:21

noted but I'm a Mary Elizabeth Woodvale she

39:24

cute sure she's a little low is

39:26

she you know she talks with an accent

39:28

and she's a little low class and I don't

39:30

know she likes like Gucci slides or whatever she

39:33

is those like those flip-flops those Gucci

39:35

flip-flops sure yeah yeah you know I don't

39:37

know I don't know sorry I apologize but

39:42

you know I'm the king yeah so

39:44

there's two airs right now because there's no baby and

39:48

that's what Edward the fourth brothers one

39:51

his first brother's name is Clarence his

39:53

second brother's name sorry he was

39:55

a Duke of Clarence and his name was

39:57

can't remember And

40:00

then there was the Earl of

40:02

Gloucester and his name is Richard. Richard

40:04

Earl of Gloucester, Duke of Gloucester, Gloucester. We've

40:07

got Clarence and Gloucester. I think it's...

40:09

And Richard is known as

40:12

being Crookback because Richard

40:14

had a bit of a humpback and

40:16

Clarence is

40:20

pretty cool. He's a cool kid. What

40:22

was his first name? Was it George? George, I think it's George.

40:24

George Pangetinac? Yeah, George Duke Clarence. Is it 1461?

40:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. George. Okay, George. My boy George.

40:29

George and Richard. Yeah. So

40:32

the coronation happens. The wedding happens and it's time

40:35

to make Elizabeth Woodvale Queen. And

40:37

people like a coronation. This is

40:39

the people's queen. She is a subject.

40:42

She ain't no Frenchy. You don't have some weird

40:45

Burgundian. You don't have some Castile

40:48

girl coming in here. No, you got one of us.

40:51

You got all the ladies. I

40:54

see on the pub or whatever. I can't. This

40:56

is terrible. So Elizabeth

40:59

Woodvale, she sold me my cell phone

41:01

at the corner store. She's now going to be Queen

41:03

of England. So

41:06

people show up in droves. They think it's great. She

41:09

gets led in and she's got

41:12

young George Duke of Clarence on one

41:14

arm and some other young dude on the other who

41:16

is so Clarence was like 16. And I think

41:18

it's the Duke of

41:20

Oberl.

41:21

Anyway, whatever. Similar guy comes in. I hope nothing happens

41:24

to her. No, she'll be fine for now. For

41:27

now. And she's beautiful

41:29

and she comes in and the whole

41:31

thing is

41:31

staged to say, youth,

41:34

new energy. The

41:37

people processing in is a 16-year-old

41:39

and a 20-year-old flanking this new queen

41:42

who's in 26, 27. Youth

41:44

is the order of the day. The old, the

41:47

blood feuds have passed. Henry

41:49

VI is playing

41:53

with his prayer book up in the tower. Queen

41:55

Margaret is festering like an angry spider

41:58

in France, but

41:59

we are.

41:59

having these are happy glory days young

42:02

handsome king beautiful girl a

42:04

queen but there's these political

42:07

problems all her entire family

42:09

was raised up to peerages but

42:12

it doesn't matter so Clarence and Gloucester

42:16

and this you know happy days

42:18

very soon Elizabeth

42:21

Woodville is pregnant and

42:25

she has a baby girl

42:27

oh bummer so she has a baby girl her name

42:29

is also Elizabeth we will refer to her as Lizzie

42:32

just to separate her Lizzie is

42:34

going to be a very important character much

42:36

later so Elizabeth so baby Lizzie

42:38

Woodvale is going to be a big

42:41

deal later on so she's the first

42:43

born baby Lizzie um and

42:45

actually people are really excited

42:48

about this because England hadn't had no

42:51

queen of England had had a baby princess

42:53

girl

42:54

in a hundred years they just hadn't had one

42:57

and people love princesses um

43:00

and it's sort of you know it signifies I

43:02

don't know like you have this beautiful little baby girl

43:04

princess and one day she's going to grow up to be a lovely

43:07

young lady who can go marry like you

43:09

know the duke of Savoy is going to go off

43:11

and marry like the king of Jerusalem or something um and

43:14

and she is just the darling of the people

43:16

so little baby Elizabeth Woodvale darling

43:19

of the people the people you know a princess

43:21

this is wonderful people haven't had a princess okay

43:26

um and then more children started to come and

43:29

more girls more girls there was three more girls

43:31

and then eventually you started getting some boys

43:33

but the boys are coming later but that's making a

43:35

little people nervous okay um

43:38

meanwhile we've got some foreign policy problems

43:40

oh AJ I promised you two dudes fighting with

43:42

daggers and that's coming great people

43:45

are nervous because the son hasn't been

43:47

born yet son hasn't been born yet and um

43:50

and warwick sort of like great machinations

43:52

for for fostering peace and

43:54

stability have not come to fruition because

43:57

of friggin Woodvale's um

43:59

so Warwick

44:01

is very pro-France.

44:03

He wants to make peace with the French and

44:06

he says they are our strongest

44:10

enemy we should make peace with them and

44:12

Edward says that's stupid you

44:15

don't make peace with your strongest enemy

44:17

you make peace with your second strongest enemy.

44:21

I know and so the second strongest

44:24

enemy on the continent was Burgundy.

44:27

So he's like we make peace with Burgundy and

44:29

Warwick says no no no we make peace with France and this

44:31

is actually a many so about a hundred

44:33

years later Machiavelli and his prince writes

44:35

about this and A.J. do you remember what he says about

44:38

who you should make peace with? It's...

44:41

is it the second strongest? It is the second strongest

44:43

right? Machiavelli also

44:45

gives advice you never stand stay away

44:47

from a fight between two people stronger than you you got

44:49

to pick a side. You got to pick a side because afterwards

44:51

you'll get devoured. So Warwick

44:54

says we should we should ally with France and create

44:56

basically create like a balance of power through

44:58

marriage so that kind of establishes

45:01

peace. No way. And Edward the fourth says we

45:03

should ally with Burgundy because if

45:05

the combined forces of us we can punch

45:07

France in the nose if we

45:09

if France and Burgundy

45:10

go to war and we help fight imagine

45:12

how happy Burgundy is gonna be but if like

45:15

we're allied with France and we go beat

45:17

up tiny Burgundy like we're

45:19

gonna look like idiots like jerks and then France is

45:21

gonna be even more powerful and come after us this

45:23

was a huge clash. Warwick's like

45:25

I'm your elder I'm your better I friggin

45:28

made you king and Edward's like

45:30

I am king. I'm sorry what was that word you said I was?

45:32

Yes I am king. So

45:35

Warwick

45:36

they had so Edward the fourth had a

45:38

sister and the sister

45:41

was the next sort of like piece of

45:43

the political game and Warwick says

45:45

all right I'm going to France

45:48

I'm gonna go secure your sister to go marry

45:50

a French guy and

45:53

Edward's like fine and so Warwick goes

45:55

off to France to try to secure it and Edward's

45:57

like I'm a merry-m

46:00

to a Burgundian. So meanwhile

46:02

in Burgundy at the time it was run by

46:04

a dude named... Oh, some poor French chap is gonna

46:07

show up on the shore. Yeah. I mean like where's my

46:09

new wife and he's gonna get nothing. Um,

46:11

there I can't remember the name of

46:14

the... Sister? No, I can't

46:16

remember the name of the current old,

46:18

old leader of Burgundy. He's an old dude and

46:21

he's nearing death and but

46:24

meanwhile Edward IV invites

46:28

the second

46:31

son of the leader of Burgundy

46:33

whose name I can't remember to come to England

46:36

because Anthony was his

46:38

name. Anthony loved

46:41

tournaments, loved jousting and

46:43

Edward IV is a martial dude. Edward

46:45

loves hunting, he loves jousting and

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so Anthony was known as Anthony La

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Grande Batard or the great

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bastard. So

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Anthony the bastard comes over and

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meanwhile works in France

47:00

and Edward IV throws a big

47:02

old tournament for the bastard and

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so Anthony is at this tournament

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and there was like a young plucky wood

47:10

veil brother who also loved jousting

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and so Anthony comes

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over and they're jousting and

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then and it's wonderful and

47:20

Anthony and Edward are getting together,

47:23

getting along real well. Now Anthony

47:25

can't get married to

47:25

the sister, he's a bastard, he can't get married but there

47:28

are just like buddies, best

47:29

friends during this whole

47:32

time. They see the world eye to eye, hunting, jousting,

47:34

all that kind of stuff. During the jousting tournament

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one of the wood veils kind of did a dirty, a dirty

47:39

trick in the joust and like

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slew footed the horse in the joust.

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So you're supposed to joust for the rider

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but he, I guess either

47:49

by accident or really wanted to win, he ended up

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jousting the horse and the horse that ended

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up dying later on from bruises and

47:56

Anthony was hicked

47:58

because it was like a dirty move. and

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he was unseated from his horse, so he lost

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that joust, but he did it by the

48:05

horse getting killed. And so

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Anthony said- That's not gentlemanly, you don't kill the horse

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you don't have any armor. So Anthony suggested

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that he and this little

48:14

wood veil kid should

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maybe have a fight in the ring with battle axes.

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Oh my gosh. And so the little wood veil's like, yeah, let's do

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it. With armor or no? Yeah, with armor. So they went in

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the ring, they were fighting with battle axes, and apparently

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the fight got so personal and so

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dire that Edward IV had

48:30

to jump down the ring and separate them. And

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he was like, guys, and he's like,

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kill my horse. And the wood veil was like,

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remember the wood veil, he's not noble gendry,

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he kind of grew up

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maybe on the other side of the tracks. He was probably maybe used

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to some bar fights, some scraps, and

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he's like, I'll kill him. I'll kill him, Burgundian,

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I don't care. I'll kill anybody. So

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they were fighting with battle axes, they had to get broken

48:52

up, and then Anthony

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says, I have a great idea. How

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about we settle this with a dagger fight, and

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the wood veil kid was like, yes. No way. And

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then Edward was like, no, no, no dagger fights.

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No one's fighting to the death with daggers. And so they,

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whew, they eventually calmed down, and

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Anthony the bastard and the wood veil kid kind of

49:10

shook hands and brode it out, and then it was all

49:13

good. But at the end of

49:15

this, so they just realized, hey,

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us English and Burgundians, we got a lot in common.

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Meanwhile, the tournament

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ends when a little breathless

49:25

messenger shows up from Burgundy and says,

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Anthony, your father, leader

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of the Burgundians, has died. And

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your brother Charles is now the head of

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the Burgundian family, or the Burgundian

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kingship or whatever. Is a Burgundy civil war coming on? No,

49:39

no. And so Anthony's like, ah, good,

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Charles, my unmarried brother is now head

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of Burgundy. And Edward

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IV says, unmarried, eh? And

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they agreed to it, dead in there. Edward

49:51

IV's sister is now married to

49:53

Charles, who will eventually be known

49:55

as Charles the Bold. So

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he married his sister, so your dad's dead. and then Anthony's

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like Mary let's let's you know

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marry your sister my brother and they do it and

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so she marries Charles Charles the bold And

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she in the meantime how about you a good

50:12

match with a That's pretty good. Yeah, and

50:14

she had turned down four matches from

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Louis the 11th And meanwhile

50:18

Warwick was over there to try to hammer out a deal

50:21

which he was successful in doing but when he comes

50:23

back I was like, hey, how was your trip?

50:25

And where looks like it was great.

50:27

I think I hammered out a match with like, you know Francois

50:31

whatever and oh you it's like yeah,

50:33

it's like oh, that's cool. That's awesome Well, there's

50:35

gonna be a wedding in Burgundy because she's marrying Charles.

50:38

Yeah or so Warwick

50:41

was kind of the second time. Yes. This is the second time this

50:43

happened. Warwick is not happy. Yeah It's

50:47

one way still kind of managing the kingdom. Warwick is managing

50:49

the kingdom, but like Edward is growing

50:52

now that he's married and has some kids and Everyone

50:55

sort of you know Wants

50:58

to everyone wants the king

51:00

to be in charge People are nervous

51:02

when his little handlers are

51:04

in charge and Edward

51:06

Yes, you know

51:08

gonna be he's he's growing up to be in charge.

51:10

He's throwing his weight around. He's marrying a sister He

51:12

married his own woman he

51:16

Had this big coup of political

51:19

acumen not acumen but political win by

51:21

capturing Henry the six in

51:24

the tower People

51:26

are realizing that he is a man in his own right and

51:30

Warwick has no sons Warwick

51:33

has only daughters and so his

51:35

sort of family's Station

51:38

in life is really tied to who he can marry

51:40

his daughters to Warwick is souring

51:43

on this Edward the fourth thing pretty quick because

51:47

the whole reason was to marry him off to some

51:49

sort of gentry and like secure peace and

51:52

It's not working turns

51:54

out Edward the fourth has his own mind So

51:58

Warwick is like, okay I need

52:00

to marry my daughter to somebody important

52:04

to secure my family's legacy. And

52:08

he's like, who could I marry my daughter to? Who

52:11

is young and capable and

52:14

handsome, who would marry my daughter? And

52:17

he immediately thinks of George Duke

52:19

of Clarence, the king's brother. So

52:23

he goes off to Clarence and

52:25

he goes, first he goes to Edward IV

52:27

and he's like, Edward, I have

52:30

a great idea. My daughter, she should

52:32

marry George Duke of Clarence. And Edward says,

52:35

like, LOL no, not happening,

52:37

no. That's old Warwick, what do you think? You're

52:39

gonna marry into the kingdom? No, buddy, no, that's not happening.

52:42

Clarence is not marrying your daughter. Clarence

52:45

can go marry Bona for all I care. Edward says no,

52:48

shuts that down, goes off hunting, bye Clarence, or bye Warwick,

52:50

ha ha. Warwick

52:53

is mad, his daughter was just rejected into

52:55

the kingdom and

52:58

the king that he basically made. I

53:02

don't know if he had the moniker, the kingmaker

53:04

yet at this time, but Warwick is known

53:06

as the kingmaker. I don't know if he's known as the kingmaker

53:08

yet, but he goes to,

53:12

in January 1468, Warwick

53:15

then goes north to Sulk about this

53:18

whole thing. And Edward IV

53:20

is kinda like doing his own thing. All

53:22

of his marriages haven't worked out. And

53:26

this is where we're gonna end. Warwick hatches

53:29

a plan. He says, I think

53:32

it's time we got ourselves a new king.

53:35

And he goes off and he

53:38

takes out his phone and he texts

53:40

Clarence. And he's like, hey man, what

53:42

do you think about my daughter? And Clarence gives

53:45

a thumbs up emoji. And

53:47

then he's like, have you ever thought about,

53:50

I think at this time there's no heir to the throne, I

53:52

don't think there's a male heir. And he's like, you know you're

53:54

the heir to the throne, right? And Clarence

53:57

texts back, double

53:59

thumbs up emoji. and

54:02

we got ourselves a conspiracy

54:04

brewing. And that's where we're gonna end today. Is that

54:07

Warwick is starting to schmooze

54:10

up Clarence and

54:12

Clarence is an ambitious kid in his own right. And

54:16

yeah, and so that's where we're gonna end for

54:18

today. But we got a lot

54:20

of intrigue coming. Oh

54:23

my word, if you guys thought that Edward

54:26

IV mentioning

54:28

that he was married was gonna be the big twist

54:31

of the story. Oh, you wait, we

54:33

have probably the biggest, I can't even

54:36

fathom of like how this would have played

54:38

itself out in history, but that it did. And

54:40

we'll get to that later. But anyway. Oh man, I'm excited. Yeah. All

54:43

right, well, this has been Classical Stuff you should know. You can

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55:01

think that's the whole kit and caboodle. There

55:03

you go. As far as I know, none of us

55:06

were secretly married. We have two guys who were actually

55:08

married and one guy that's unmarried and

55:10

no secrets there. Yeah. And yeah.

55:13

Well, I'm looking forward to twists in the next episode. Fun, fun,

55:15

fun. Thanks man. Bye. Bye.

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Bye.