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The government has committed $24 million
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to the I Am Hope initiative
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Gumboot Friday, which provides counselling to
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young people. Comedian Mike King's I
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Am Hope Foundation, which runs Gumboot
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Friday, says it will provide access
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to free mental health counselling for
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more than 15,000 young people a
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year. But
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not everyone is welcoming the move,
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with opposition parties calling for more
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transparency around the procurement of mental
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health services. The Minister for
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Mental Health, Matt Ducey, explains why
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they chose to fund Gumboot Friday. Gumboot
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Friday are proven. They've got a social
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return on investment. For every $1 invested,
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they return $5.70. But more importantly,
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they can connect young people who
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need timely mental health and addiction
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support with a practitioner within two
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weeks. So we want to get
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more money out of Wellington to
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the front line. And today we
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announce Gumboot Friday receiving that $24
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million. How
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was the I Am Hope organization
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that runs Gumboot Friday chosen over
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other mental health service providers? Well,
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in our coalition agreement across the three
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parties, we agreed to fund Gumboot Friday.
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The Ministry of Health has taken
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a direct contracting approach to
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fund that $24 million. So it
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was really exciting to stand there
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today with the Deputy Prime Minister, Winston
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Peters, and Mike
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King from I Am Hope, as well
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as Naomi Ballantyne, the Chair of the
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board. We believe
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that Gumboot Friday is a
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proven provider that has the
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ability to scale up. We
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talk today that they have several
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hundred mental health and addiction practitioners
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on their platform that we can fund so
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they can provide timely access to support for
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young people who need it. So
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was this decision a coalition agreement decision, or
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was it a decision because it's the right
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thing to do? Well
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this decision was made because it's
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the right thing to do. Today's
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announcement is to fund Gumboot Friday.
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will allow an extra over 15,000
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young people to access timely mental
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health and addiction support. The Auditor-General
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recently reported that in the last
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six years, specialist wait times have
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increased for young people. So not
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only will this announcement today support
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an extra 15,000 young people to
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get timely support, we'll also support
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those young people on wait lists
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and we're really excited about today's
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announcement. Which mental health service
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providers won't have their funding renewed in the
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budget? Well
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we've still got Budget 2024 to
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be announced. Today's announcement was
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around $24 million for
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Gumboot Friday and I'm really looking
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forward to Budget 2024 and the
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investment that
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we will make into mental health services. So
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you're not going to say which mental health
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service providers won't have their funding renewed when
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you announce the budget next Well
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there's still time to go before Budget
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2024. Today we're announcing $24
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million into
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Gumboot Friday. What performance measures
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have you got in place for Gumboot Friday? So
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the performance measures will be
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around a volume and the
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performance of Gumboot Friday. There
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will be measures in place
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to report on activity as
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well as outcomes. I've
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sought assurances from the Ministry of
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Health by following the government procurement
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rules. They are taking a
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direct contracting approach. They've assured me
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that this is not unusual and
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that I'm expecting robust contracting to be
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reporting on the monitoring
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of volume and performance of this contract.
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How often will you be assessing the
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Gumboot Friday initiative? How will you know it's
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working? Well
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the Ministry of Health manages with
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Health New Zealand a
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large number of contracts with
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our NGO and community providers.
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They are expected to return
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reports on performance and volume
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at periodic parts of
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the calendar year as per their contract
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and that's what we would expect this
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to do with Gunboot Friday. So
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what outcomes are you expecting from the
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24 million dollars announced today
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being invested in Gunboot Friday?
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Well from today's announcement of 24 million
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dollars over four years for Gunboot
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Friday we're expecting an extra 15,000
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young people every year to access
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timely mental health and addiction support.
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That's important. Many young people tell
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me as I travel around the
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country that they find it hard
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to get that support so it's
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really exciting that we'll be able
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to increase the level of support that
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they will be able to access but
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of course it's also about the outcomes
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of the support that they receive and
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what we want to see is
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young people using Gunboot Friday receiving
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better support to help them around
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staying within school, better
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educational success, staying
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out of youth offending and these are
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real outcomes that we want to measure.
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By when? Where are these outcomes
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expected? Well that's
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through the contracting. There will be expected
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outcomes on reporting of performance and
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monitoring and like any contract I
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would expect the Ministry of Health
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and Health New Zealand to undertake
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that we have clear expectations of
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what we are purchasing as a
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government. It's very important that not only
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are we funding services to allow people
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to get better access but of course
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to actually have better outcomes for those
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people as well. That's the
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Minister for Mental Health, Matt Doocy there.
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