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Hello everyone, you are listening or watching

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Chatting with Candice. I'm

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your host Candice Hoorback and today

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I'm also the guest. This

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is weird. I've actually hit record and paused

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a couple times because I'm just not flowing

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and I made this

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episode a couple days ago, flowed.

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I thought it was great and

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it didn't record. So I'm going

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to assume that that was divine

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intervention and I needed to

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do another take, maybe

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a shorter take. The other one was a little bit

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long. So we had

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a video go ultra viral. I'm talking

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over 5 million views and

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that is absolutely incredible. I

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am so proud of this show. I'm

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so proud because I've stuck

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with it. I'm following my

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curiosities. It's funny because I'm being told like

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what to talk about and not talk about

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because of what does well and parenting was

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one of those things I was told not

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to talk about because it just doesn't resonate

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with my base. Then that's the video that

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has over 5 million views. I'm like, well,

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my base isn't that big yet. So I

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feel like should be

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in a place where I'm just following things that really excite

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me and I want to talk about. So

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moral of that story is to

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follow your passions and your curiosities

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because that is what resonates with

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people, not clicks and grabs and

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what do you call them? Shock

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jocks, all of that. There's a place for that.

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I'm sure some of it's entertaining, but that's not

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me. So amazing. So

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proud, but that

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moment was immediately overshadowed by

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a whirlwind of stones

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being cast my way. And what's

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interesting is I have

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always been really transparent about who I am, who

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I'm trying to be, my values,

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my principles, my past.

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And some people were in the comments trying moments

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like don't you know she's a porn

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star, don't you know that she's, she

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was in the adult

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industry and I'll give my stage name

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as if I'm not open about it and then

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also as if that automatically discounts anything

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I'm to do or say later in

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life. So I get

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punished for doing this thing, this very

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controversial thing and then I try

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to do something else. I'm

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at a different stage of my life that

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was six, seven years ago, seven

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years ago and I'm

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being told by a big group of people like

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that's the only thing I can do from here

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on now. I

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made this horrible decision, you are

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now seen as a person

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of no value, no intellect,

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no contribution so just stay over there doing the

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thing that you weren't supposed to do. That

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doesn't make any sense to me.

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It's like this Kafka trap where

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no matter what I do you're

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taking this moral authority over anything

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and it's supposed to shut me down

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and shut me up. The

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things that I did in my past, again

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I'm so open and honest about, I

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did in my past. I made those decisions when I

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was 19 years old. I'm

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now 34. I'm

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a wildly different person while

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in a good way. How

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embarrassing, how embarrassing would

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it be if I was

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the same person, if my perspective and my

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values were the same, if the things I

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was going after were the same that would

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be horrendous, horrendous.

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Thank God I'm not that person

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anymore. I

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would never do probably 90% of

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the things I did when I was 19, 20, 21. I

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just wouldn't. I'm at

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a different stage. I'm a mother. I'm married. I

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don't do things purely

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for likes, follows, financial

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success. I'm trying to do things that

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I think are going to have an

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impact not only for people that are

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listening but for my kids, for my

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community. I

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look at things and I assign value in

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a much different way. I

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look at sex in a different way. I

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was very, very

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naive with a lot of

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my – immature honestly, super

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immature with a lot

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of my views on sex and intimacy. Now

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that does not mean that I have

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gone full pendulum to the right

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and I'm super judgmental and think

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monogamy is the only way or

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you better just cover yourself up.

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There's this article or an article

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post that went viral, some athletes wife who I

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think is a mom of two just did Sports

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Illustrated and she's a bombshell. It's like how does

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a woman who just had two kids look like

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that? That's a celebration.

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That's a win for her and

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the internet's coming after her for

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objectifying herself. There's

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no pleasing anyone. So all you can do

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is be your authentic self in the moment

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and make the decisions that you think are

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best for you and your family

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with the information that you have. At the

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time, I was told I couldn't have kids.

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At the time, I was single. At the

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time, I had a ton of bills to

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pay. At the time, I was super

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sick and working a regular

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job was really hard. I was on Lupron.

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I just had surgery to get rid

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of some mando-metriosis. When you get delivered

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this box of Lupron, there's

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a sign that you leave on the door for

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the delivery man because you're supposed to sign for

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it and it's temperature dependent so they don't want

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it sitting out saying that you might be too

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sick to answer the door. You

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might not physically be able to answer the door so please

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leave a medication on this too. with

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the medicine because it was so often that you

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would take these shots and it would actually make

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you feel worse. I remember the days that I

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had injections, I would have to be

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driven home if I couldn't

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drive. So when

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I was in that situation, web

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camming seemed like my

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opportunity to provide for myself in a real

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meaningful way, in a safe way from the

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comfort of my room. I could make my

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own hours. If I was feeling good, I

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could cam. If I wasn't, I didn't have

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to. And I would make so much money

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that I could do it whenever

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I wanted and it would be enough. There

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were a lot of reasons why I made the

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decision to get into the industry. Some that I'm

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probably sure I'm not even aware of, you

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know, it could be childhood parenting, parents

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divorcing, abuse,

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sexual repression and trying to explore my

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sexuality. Like there is this whole constellation

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of reasons, sort of back cast and

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try to find the one reason it's

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an impossibility. What

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I will say is I don't regret it. Now

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maybe I made a left turn. I'm not sure.

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It doesn't feel like it. It

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certainly doesn't feel like it and I

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don't have any shame or regret around

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my past. It has given

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me a life that I never thought I would have,

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a level of freedom I never thought I would have,

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understanding of myself and my body

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and relationships and shame, transcending

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a lot of that in a way that

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I don't think I would have been able

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to. It is an

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excellent filtration system for who is for

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me and not for me. People

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will write me off immediately. People

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will write my husband off immediately.

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People will unfortunately

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probably write my children

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off immediately. And

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that certainly doesn't feel good. I don't know if

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it will ever feel great, but

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it does show me a lot about

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the person that's doing that. Because we

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are not our past, hopefully.

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Hopefully we're ever evolving, constantly changing,

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trying to be better, trying to

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improve, trying to learn more. If

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I were to judge you off of something that

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you did a decade ago, not

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knowing your story or why, not approaching

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it with curiosity, approaching it with my

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own lens of right, my

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own conditioning,

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I'll say. And

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that's not really fair to you. I

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tried to assess the person in front of me.

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How are you showing up for your loved ones? How

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are you showing up for your community? How are you

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showing up right now for me in this conversation, in

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this interaction? And I

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judge the no. I'm

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asking that. And if that's too

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much, if that, for you

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to judge me now, who

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I am now, my

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thoughts, my opinions, my perspective, judge

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those in isolation now, instead

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of putting this overlay of 19-year-old

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me on it, if that's

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too much, just scroll past. You

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are not required to, you're

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not obligated to leave a

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nasty comment. It's not necessary. It's

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not necessary. Everyone knows what I did. I

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know what I did. I'm

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asking you to just judge me now for

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who I am. So

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with that being said, who am I? And

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that is the question I ask myself a

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lot. And

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I think we fall in these traps of identifying

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with our roles, functions, jobs,

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even how we fall

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into certain familial structures.

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And those are certainly not.

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Without value, but you're so much more

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than that. So when someone

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reduces me down to a porn

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store Or reduces me

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down to an assortment of

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body parts. I've never looked at myself that

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way I've never looked at myself as just

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a bunch of body parts to

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be monetized or a bunch

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of bunch a bunch of body parts

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to be objectified I'm

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so much more than that. And if you think

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that because a woman has displayed an

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abnormal amount of sexual promiscuity

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or sexual What's

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the word I'm looking for Exhibition

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That that's all that she is that shows me

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how what you think of women in general, honestly

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You know, you're probably someone that loses respect

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for someone for a woman after you sleep

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with her Well that wasn't lost you never

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had it for her The respect

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that you had for me wasn't lost you never

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had it for me and that's fine again It's

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a filtration system, but I don't

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want people around me that just judge

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Judge from a place of moral superiority

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instead of just taking in

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something objectively so I'm

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sure there's a lot of things that

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you disagree with with everyone in your

11:20

close circle You can't align with every

11:22

single thought opinion belief. You're gonna have

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nobody I think life

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becomes interesting we surround ourselves with

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people more based off of like

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trust and responsibility

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reliability Things

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that of real substance like more

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hopefully more than just your sexuality

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and Your sexual interest

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hopefully more than that. Hopefully you're judging

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people Based

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off of how they contribute to society Their

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immediate family their friends and not what

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is their favorite position in bed. But

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that's just me. Call me crazy.

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There's also this weird acceptance when

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it comes to bringing people's children

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into the conversation that I still

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don't understand. I don't understand

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how it's tolerated or even encouraged. And

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you see this with a lot of

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really big conservative talking

12:22

heads. They'll talk about women

12:24

like me. They'll talk about Lena. They'll talk

12:26

about Riley. You

12:28

see those names circulated a lot because they

12:32

had the audacity to make

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a terrible decision. One

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that most society disagrees with.

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Everyone says is going to ruin your life. Become

12:45

wildly financially

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successful. Wildly notable. Find

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a ride-or-die husband who's

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also successful in their own

12:57

right. The audacity to fall

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in love, get married, and have

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children. And here's the

13:04

kicker. To be

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happy. They

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had the audacity to be happy.

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So because

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of that there is this encouragement

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to bring the children into the

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conversation. And I have made

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posts. I've taken them down but I've taken

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screenshots of some of the nastier ones to

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highlight them. Sometimes I used to delete

13:27

them and then I realized first

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of all I can't keep up with that. And

13:31

second of all I want

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people to see how awful

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and dark some pieces of the

13:38

internet can be and not

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to wash over it. So I've had

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comments where people say that your kid's

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gonna kill themselves. And it's not unique

13:47

to me. I notice this on other

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performers pages that are public about being

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mothers. Why

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on earth would you say that? You

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can pretend that's because you have my child's

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well-being in mind, we know that that's

14:02

not true. We

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know that that's not true. You don't even know them.

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So to kind of

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even fantasize play that you

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care about someone else's kid, even remotely, as much

14:13

as they do is just insane. So I'm not

14:15

going to play that game. It

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is because you're evil. It's because there is

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some part of you or a lot of

14:22

part, or the entirety that is evil and

14:25

that's not okay. And that should be a

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topic that is just off limits. People's kids

14:29

should be off limits, especially

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when you have someone who doesn't share their

14:33

children. I don't post my kids

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online. As you can see, there's a really good reason

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why I go through my comments and you will understand

14:40

why so many of us keep our precious

14:43

little angels away from the internet because

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it is terrible. So

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I'll say something like, don't give artificial

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dyes to your kid because it's poisoning

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them, which is pretty

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well accepted in a lot of medical

14:56

communities that red dye 40 is a

14:59

neurotoxin, that some of these dyes cause

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abnormal maladaptive behavior

15:06

like ADHD, depression, anxiety, you

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name it. So

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I'll say something like that and they'll

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say, oh, well, you're worried about Twizzlers

15:15

when you should be worried about the

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internet. We should all be

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worried about the internet when it comes

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to our children. It is a dangerous

15:24

place. There are predators. There

15:27

is content that is for adults. There's violent

15:29

content that I don't know anyone should really

15:31

be watching. So yeah,

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I'm gonna keep my kids off the

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internet while it's inappropriate for them to

15:37

have unbridled access to the internet and

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you should keep your kids off too.

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And if it's your kid that is

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showing some other kid explicit content, I'm

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not even talking about myself at this point, I'm

15:48

talking about other people's kids and just random performers,

15:50

that's not okay. That means that you

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have also failed as a parent because

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you were putting them in harm's way and

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they have access to content that they're not

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able So, it is

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a complicated, complicated thing that all of

16:04

us parents have to worry about, which

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is the internet. My

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unique issue is obviously that some of

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my content out there is

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nothing that my own children

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should see. Your children should not see

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you in that position,

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right? Or those positions.

16:22

Brum-bum. It's

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going to happen because there's going to be

16:27

some shitty kid that had shitty parents that

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is going to get enjoyment out

16:32

of trying to hurt my

16:34

kids. That's

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the issue. That's the thing that we should be

16:39

looking at, is to hurt people, trying to hurt

16:41

people, and why that's not the thing

16:43

we're trying to fix. We're trying to fix my behavior.

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No, it's sick. That's

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the sick thing. That's the evil thing. That's the

16:50

wrong thing. So, it's my

16:52

job to try to plan, prepare, and give

16:56

my kids the tools that they're going to

16:58

need to deal with my decisions, and that

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sucks. Again, I

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had no idea the gravity of my

17:06

decision, like the ripple effect of that. I

17:08

didn't think I was going to have kids,

17:10

but it is my reality, my family's reality

17:13

nonetheless, and I promise you, I think about

17:15

it a lot. My husband thinks

17:17

about it a lot. We love those boys

17:19

more than anything in this world, and

17:22

we will do everything in our power

17:24

to make it as easy as

17:26

possible for them to find

17:29

out, to

17:32

set them up in such a way that it

17:35

doesn't take them aback. It

17:37

doesn't take the wind out of their

17:39

sails. They're not shown, or they

17:42

don't discover this for the first time by some

17:45

bully, but that we are the ones that present

17:47

it so that they can process it in

17:50

its entirety in the safety of their

17:52

house. That's my goal. Hopefully

17:56

I am aware situationally

17:59

to... when that time is appropriate. So

18:01

obviously not right now, they're both very

18:03

little. But

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that time is going to come and I'm gonna have to deal with it. We're all

18:09

gonna have to deal with it. I'm not in

18:13

disillusion of that reality. But what I

18:15

don't understand is, again,

18:18

just like the obligation that people feel like they

18:20

have to throw my kids into it, to throw

18:22

my past into it, I have

18:24

moved on. It would be super if

18:27

you would, it would be super if you would

18:29

let me. I

18:33

bought a red pin. I'm still debating if

18:35

I'm gonna start wearing it on the canceled

18:37

weekly episodes because I feel

18:41

like the guys have this Christian following

18:47

and this right conservative

18:49

following. And some of them

18:52

are cool. And then there's a group of

18:54

them that are just absolute loons and they

18:56

watch the show just to be mean to

18:58

me and try to get me written off

19:01

my own show, which is hysterical. We're all

19:03

co-hosts on it equally. No one's going anywhere.

19:06

If you don't wanna see me, watch Slick N Thick. I'm

19:08

not on that. Be like

19:11

someone complaining about Gerard. Okay, well then watch Chatting With Candace.

19:13

I don't know what to tell you. Watch

19:15

something that has none of us in it, if it's so

19:17

triggering. But yeah, maybe

19:19

you'll see me with the red A because it's not

19:22

going anywhere. The internet is forever. And

19:25

there's this conversation that I've had, which is

19:28

the right to be forgotten. And

19:31

do you have the right to be forgotten? Do you

19:33

have the right to move beyond your decisions that you

19:35

made when you were 17, 18, 19, whatever it was,

19:39

whether it's a bad tweet, a

19:41

terrible take, adult content.

19:44

There are, I think, five

19:47

million creators currently on OnlyFans. How many of

19:49

them are 18, 19, 20, 21? Super

19:53

young, brain's not even done yet. Those

19:56

performers have the right to say,

19:58

ooh. I shouldn't have

20:00

done that. I

20:02

shouldn't have done that. Do I have

20:05

the right to have that removed because now I'm a

20:07

different person with

20:10

different standards, a different perspective? It's

20:12

not like it's illegal. It's not

20:14

like it's a felony that you're

20:16

trying to wipe away. It is

20:18

a legal job that you are

20:20

paying taxes on. Do

20:22

you have the right to move past that? And

20:25

it was brought to my attention that there

20:27

are certain countries over in Europe where yeah, you can,

20:29

you can actually have the internet

20:31

wiped of certain

20:33

things, not in the States. And

20:35

it's an interesting problem, especially

20:38

with AI and deep fakes and

20:41

what is yours to own? How

20:44

much of your data, how much

20:46

of your likeness, how much of

20:48

your digital footprint, fingerprint is

20:50

yours to do with what you want and how

20:52

you want? So we'll see as now, obviously I

20:55

don't have that luxury. So it's on the internet

20:57

forever. Maybe I just lean

20:59

into that and I'm gonna be the rock and

21:01

I'm gonna come out, I'm gonna be the bad

21:03

guy. And I'm gonna my A, just, I don't

21:05

know. I'm still trying to figure it

21:07

out. I'm in a

21:09

much better place than I was last week

21:11

when all of this was first going down.

21:13

And I promise people

21:16

will say touch grass and

21:18

it's just the internet. But when

21:20

you have thousands and thousands and

21:22

thousands of comments coming in, you

21:24

feel like you have to be

21:27

in the comment section, engaging, fighting,

21:29

battling. It's like this digital

21:33

castle that is being overrun by

21:36

rebels and you were just trying to

21:38

fight every single person and defend what

21:40

is yours. And you realize how stupid

21:42

that is. So then you do digital

21:45

cleanse and you do a podcast because

21:47

podcasts are therapeutic. So

21:52

I guess if you're still listening, I'm Candice. Very

21:58

Nice to meet you. Either

22:01

was never real. She.

22:05

Never is going to be. She's.

22:07

Going to exist forever. On

22:10

the Internet because that is the

22:12

nature of things. I

22:16

have moved past it. I

22:18

am. I'm curious about.

22:21

Parenting. And Marriage

22:24

and Relationships and

22:27

bitcoin. Block chain

22:29

politics Spirituality. And.

22:33

So many things. Psychedelic.

22:38

Visa my bookshelf speakers percent.

22:41

Is Wild? I mean.

22:46

Self. Improvement. Were.

22:49

Going on a shooting course this

22:51

week? Actually, we're going down to

22:53

Austin. Did you? Tim Kennedy's protector?

22:56

Of course. it's like this couple

22:58

Valentine's day shooting things. I am.

23:01

A multi person, I have so many

23:03

inch or so many Curiosity is. Porn.

23:06

Is not really one of them anymore like I. Hate

23:09

can get little blips, hear something weird

23:12

happens politically like the bad in North

23:14

Carolina, or once in awhile seminal come

23:16

across my feed that I haven't seen

23:19

a long time. but I am so

23:21

detached from not industry I hadn't been

23:23

in it for so long. It's just

23:25

so weird that. It

23:28

seems to be a permanent fixture, so.

23:31

I don't know. It's again.

23:34

The whole goal of life. I think

23:36

it's to constantly. Improve.

23:38

Constantly try to better

23:40

yourself constantly and figure out

23:43

who you are under

23:45

pressure and make adjustments to

23:47

love to play, to

23:49

discover things. And

23:52

I don't think it's to be stuck.

23:54

I don't think any decision that you

23:56

make should you should be punished for

23:59

for the rest of your life as.

24:03

It doesn't seem right, and to take

24:05

someone's been humanity away and links civil

24:08

discourse away just because of that seems

24:10

little silly too. But.

24:14

I digress. So

24:17

before we head out, I

24:19

believe that. God.

24:21

At where the universe send you messages

24:23

all the time and a whole bunch

24:25

of different ways. While.

24:28

I was in the thick of this

24:30

and really going through it and feeling

24:32

awful for myself and about myself. I.

24:35

Get said piece of content on tic

24:37

toc and anyone knows me knows that.

24:40

Julia. Roberts is my favorite

24:42

actress. She is mine.

24:45

She's. Feels. Like.

24:47

At home and peaceful and com

24:50

for me and any time that

24:52

I'm having a bad day or

24:54

if my husband's travelling it is

24:56

without a doubt it's a Julia

24:58

Roberts. Some. Mean, she

25:00

so graceful and she is timeless

25:02

and I just I adore her.

25:05

So I get fed this piece

25:07

of content from her on tic

25:09

toc and it just felt. Like.

25:12

It was made for me so let

25:14

me pull that up and will listen

25:17

to it and then we can do

25:19

a quick commentary and. Now. The

25:21

it for the opposite. I posted a

25:23

picture of my knees and I from

25:25

one weekend morning. She flipped over, we

25:28

got up and we're having tea and

25:30

playing cards and having a. Beautiful

25:33

morning. It was great. I

25:35

felt great about it and my sweet

25:37

little nice repost it it a couple

25:39

of days later, an interesting hop and

25:41

the amount of people that. Felt

25:43

absolutely required to

25:46

talk about how

25:48

terrible. I look in the picture

25:50

that I'm not aging. well, that I

25:52

look like a man. Why would I

25:55

even post a picture like that when

25:57

I look that terrible people. Thank god

25:59

I didn't. Recognize her this

26:01

is what she looks like and

26:03

then the fight that break out

26:05

within the common where someone says

26:07

you should be nice by side

26:10

be nice, looks terrible and people

26:12

start fighting within. the comment. I

26:15

was amazed at what that made

26:17

me. Feel. I'm a

26:20

fifty year old woman and

26:22

I know who I am

26:24

and still. I

26:26

feel as got hurt. I

26:28

was so hurt that people

26:30

couldn't see the point of

26:32

it, the sweetness of it,

26:34

the absolute shining joy of

26:37

that photo thought god what

26:39

if I was fifteen at

26:41

this devastating and it really

26:43

made me see all the

26:45

things about Heart and Quick

26:47

and like. And you realize

26:50

there is some saying a

26:52

neurological about this whole system.

26:54

Is. It was fascinating to me and

26:56

I think it taught me a lot

26:58

about being a young person in today's

27:01

society. I mean Absolutely

27:03

Amazing. Spot

27:05

On. It is this.

27:08

Feeling. That people feel required

27:10

to be cruel to add

27:12

some nasty comments to be

27:14

mean. You know when

27:16

it is? But. You're not

27:19

required to and. I

27:22

think again she means great wound She

27:25

said i know who I am and

27:27

it still bothered me and I've really

27:29

tried to grapple with that thing is

27:31

is bothering me with his i don't

27:33

know who I am and I'm not

27:35

okay with my decisions and I I

27:38

know that that's not it. It's just

27:40

so unnatural with these mines that we

27:42

have that were involved for picking blueberries.

27:44

to be able to go on to

27:46

this computer super computer and see six

27:48

thousand people shouting out you for how

27:50

your terrible it's. That's. Not

27:53

normal. We haven't caught up to that

27:55

and I think what happens is our

27:57

brains are thinking. We're. About

27:59

to be exile. The right to be exiled

28:01

and thrown into the forest. And I'm not

28:03

going to survive by myself. And I'm going

28:05

to die. And and that's why we have

28:07

such a visceral reaction to it. And. I

28:10

would encourage people that when you're

28:13

trying to exile some thing to

28:15

look internally and see what ways

28:17

that you have tried to abandon

28:19

that part of yourself in what

28:21

ways have you tried to remove

28:23

what could be some and the

28:25

best person view? I

28:29

hope when you watch this and

28:32

when you watch future clips or

28:34

shows that I'm on. The.

28:36

You don't miss the point. They

28:39

don't miss the point that you don't miss. The

28:42

real me. All

28:45

four were. All

28:50

from my past of war. Your.

28:54

Own Programming, whatever it is is

28:56

to again just take it everything

28:58

into account as it is as

29:01

being presented to you and to

29:03

give an honest assessment of that.

29:05

And. Not to just ah, Add

29:09

to the. Darkness and sitting us

29:11

on the internet. Business of it. May.

29:15

Be the late, be the love add

29:17

some value. It's not to say agree

29:19

with everything I say and do is

29:21

obviously they're going with plenty of times

29:23

where I am wrong and I'm so

29:25

aware of that. There's a way to

29:27

do it with the intention of trying

29:29

to. Help someone

29:31

better themselves, improve themselves, gain

29:33

more insight versus a way

29:35

that is meant to take

29:38

someone's take someone down, make

29:40

them feel terrible, punish them,

29:43

You. Learn nothing from punishment. Punishment.

29:47

Is a behavior modification and

29:49

it's just that I'm not

29:51

alone. It's not instilling long

29:53

term change and understanding and

29:55

improvement. It's years. Fixing a

29:57

behavior may be so. I'm

30:02

done being punished and with that

30:04

everybody. Thank

30:06

you for listening. I hope

30:08

you stick around. I think

30:10

you'll find something of value

30:12

and inches. And

30:16

I will see you next week.

30:21

Thank. You for listening! If you want

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30:27

a scenic week by everybody.