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Hey, Chameleon listeners, Ashley Randall
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here, host of the latest
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installment of the hit true
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crime podcast series, Smokescreen, My
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Fugitive Dad. Like
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Chameleon, each season of Smokescreen
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reveals the hidden secrets behind
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complicated criminals. And on My
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Fugitive Dad, the criminal
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in question just happens to
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be my father. My
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dad, Tom, was by all accounts
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a normal guy. He
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was an amazing father, a loving husband
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to my mom, a car
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salesman, and an unbelievable golfer.
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But on one unforgettable day, my
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dad took me aside and
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revealed a shocking secret, a secret
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he told me to never share, a secret
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that would not only turn my world
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upside down, but would
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send federal law enforcement into a
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complete frenzy. And
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on this season of Smokescreen, I'm
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going to tell you all about it for
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the very first time. Join
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me and my co-host, Jonathan Hirsch, as
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we retrace the steps of my father's double
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life and try to find
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the truth beneath a sea of lies
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dating back over half a decade. Take
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a listen. Okay, I guess if
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we're going to tell the story from the top, we
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kind of need to start with the movie. You
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got to give the people what they want. The
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Thomas Crown Affair was released in 1968. It
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was one of the most iconic heist films ever
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made. Go.
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In the movie, Thomas Crown is a
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clever and charming businessman who pulls off
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an elaborate and inimitable robbery of a
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bank in Boston, Massachusetts. Steve
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McQueen. Queen is the lead. His
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character is already rich. He
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does it seemingly because he
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can. The
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getaway car, a wood paneled station
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wagon, exits the Massachusetts turnpike, canvas
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sacks of money in the trunk. The
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driver drops them off in a trash can at
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the Cambridge Cemetery. A
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little while later, McQueen arrives in a black Rolls
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Royce to pick up the sacks. He
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drives home. His butler asks him about
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a day. Fine.
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Just fine. He tells
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him, go home early. Thank you, sir.
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He walks into the ante room, pours himself
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a drink, looking sharp with his
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crew cut of golden blonde hair and tailored
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suit. He
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catches himself in the mirror for a
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cheeky moment of primordial narcissism and
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toasts his own reflection. Then
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reclines on the couch, biting into a
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thick cigar and is unable
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to control his laughter. He's done it. And
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that's really where the film starts as
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law enforcement and a special investigator slash
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love interest played by Faye Dunaway are
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hot on his trail. It's
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one of those summer blockbusters that kids of the
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era must have flocked to. The
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flashy thrill of the chase and a
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leading man all the boys wanted to
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emulate. But
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there was only one young man watching
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that film among the millions who must
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have seen it that summer in small
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towns and big cities across America that
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took his obsessive admiration for Steve
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McQueen a bit too
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far. He
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was a kid from Cleveland, Ohio named Ted
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Conrad. He loved them.
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movie went time and again to see it in
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the theater. He loved it
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so much that he tried to
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pull off his own heist. And
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the crazy thing is, he
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did it. He stole
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hundreds of thousands of dollars. This
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is the story of a crime that
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impacted two families in profoundly different ways.
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One desperate for the truth and
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the other unwittingly living a
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lie. A
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cop with a life's mission to find answers,
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a family with no idea that they hold
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the key to solving the case, a
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key that once unlocked would
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transform their lives. It's
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been over half a century since
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Ted Conrad stole a fortune from
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Society National Bank. And
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the real story of what happened has
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remained a mystery. Until
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now. From
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Neon Hum Media and Sony Music
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Entertainment, this is Smoke Screen, my
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fugitive dad. I'm Jonathan
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Hirsch. I
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thought I knew my dad, but
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that was before I found out he'd been a
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fugitive for decades. You
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should probably introduce yourself. Yeah, I'm
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Ashley. I'm actually Ted's
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daughter. But you weren't always aware
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of that. No. Could
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you have ever imagined your dad was a
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criminal mastermind? That's a
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no. He was absolutely
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unfeasible. I would never
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have guessed how many secrets he
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had. You and your dad weren't
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usually close though, right? Like, you weren't
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just his only child. You
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were also sort of his confidant. Yeah,
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I think he would tell me things because
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he either thought that I... I could handle it better than my
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mom, or that I just
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have this really terrible gift of being
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able to compartmentalize things and put it on
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a shelf and tuck it away. Maybe
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he would give her 10% of the story and
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then I might get 30%. He
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would never give me a 100%, but I
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was definitely getting more than she did. But
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now at 38 years old, she found
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herself asking, what percentage
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of the story he told her was
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a lie? Was it all
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a lie? I
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deserve to know my father's name. I
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deserve to know my name. She
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also deserves to know why. Why
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did Ted take off with the money and
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leave his whole life behind? This
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burning question was how
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Ashley and I found ourselves on a journey
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in search of the real Ted. He
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wasn't a wise guy. I mean, he'd look
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you straight in the eyes. The
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only time I saw him was sad when he was saying
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that his
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parents were killed with his
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twin brothers in a car accident. He
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was Ohio's most infamous fugitive.
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Some people portrayed Conrad as a
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Robin Hood, and my dad called him
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nothing but a thief. He
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kept plenty of secrets. And
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he said, if I tell you,
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you have to promise that
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you will not look into it. I don't
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want you looking into anything. I don't want you telling anybody.
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Ted Conrad, it turns out, was
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a mystery, even to those who
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knew him best. And we'll
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tell you at long last, not
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only how he did it, but
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why. Search
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