Sound maker Roslyn Oades has embarked on a series of art dates with artists about their practice, with conversations particularly referencing how they are listening at this moment in time. This week's guest is Justin Shoulder.

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• To discover more about Justin Talplacido Shoulder/Phasmahammer’s body of work, including Carrion, The River Eats and the collectives The Glitter Militia and Club Ate visit the artist’s website here.
• Hear more of composer Corin Iletto’s work on Soundcloud here.
• The art crushes Justin mentioned were: musician and composer 33EMYBW, Indonesian-based sound collective Gabber Modus Operandi, and Naarm (Melbourne) artist Female Wizard.
• Our Audiosketch podcast title music is by Fia Fiell. All in the Same Room, is from Fia Fiell’s 2018 album of the same name, which you can find on Bandcamp here.
• Additional sound design by Roslyn Oades, using the following samples courtesy of Freesound.org: Underwater Ambience by Kinoton, Underwater Sound by Fabrizo84, Submarine Sonar by Breviceps licensed under the Creative Commons 0 License.