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Dr. Neil Gray: Fostering a 'Whole Brain' Approach to Education at UT Tyler

Released Monday, 8th April 2024
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Dr. Neil Gray: Fostering a 'Whole Brain' Approach to Education at UT Tyler

Dr. Neil Gray: Fostering a 'Whole Brain' Approach to Education at UT Tyler

Dr. Neil Gray: Fostering a 'Whole Brain' Approach to Education at UT Tyler

Dr. Neil Gray: Fostering a 'Whole Brain' Approach to Education at UT Tyler

Monday, 8th April 2024
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UT Tyler Radio is brought to you by the College

0:06

of Arts and Sciences at the University of

0:08

Texas at Tyler . But what is

0:11

the College of Arts and Sciences ? I'm

0:13

News Director Mike Landis To answer that

0:15

question . Ut Tyler Radio connects with

0:17

College Dean Dr Neal Gray .

0:20

Nearly 20 programs you're over

0:22

, maybe over 20 programs

0:24

if you look at all the degrees , but we have

0:26

10 departments , some with multiple

0:29

degrees , including both

0:31

undergraduate and graduate . So I like to say

0:33

that we're the whole brain

0:35

college .

0:37

I like that You're covering all aspects

0:39

of it . Yep , your background is in the

0:41

sciences area of arts and sciences

0:43

. What's it like to be responsible for

0:45

? Everything from music to literature to criminal

0:48

justice .

0:49

Well , it's incredible and , as I said a moment ago

0:51

, we're the whole brain college , and what I mean by

0:53

that ? As you know , there's this concept

0:56

that's been around for a long time of the left

0:58

brain versus the right brain , right

1:00

the left brain being logic and science

1:02

. You know

1:04

analysis in the right brain

1:07

being creativity and innovation , and

1:09

I had been a scientist my whole life

1:11

. I

1:22

thought only about science , really

1:25

, but also and especially the

1:27

arts , including all the humanities

1:29

, the liberal arts , the fine and the performing

1:31

arts . To me . It was a new beginning

1:33

for me Learn about what they

1:35

do , and maybe I become

1:37

a whole brain person too at some point . But

1:40

what I've realized over time that's been really cool

1:43

, you know about my work with all the

1:45

diverse disciplines we have is that I have

1:47

learned they're absolutely more

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alike than they are different , and

1:52

so there is some middle ground where

1:54

that left and right brain meet and

1:57

creativity and innovation , analysis

2:00

and logic . You don't really do anything

2:02

without all of those things and

2:06

logic , you don't really do anything without all of those things . And so I think

2:09

one beautiful thing about our college is that you know we have

2:11

all of those things that seem

2:13

super different but

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really are way more alike than most people

2:17

imagine , so it's just really been exciting

2:21

, a tremendous opportunity and

2:23

an honor to be able

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to champion , you

2:27

know , things outside of my normal area , and

2:30

so I really have

2:32

enjoyed it .

2:33

Well , perhaps your expertise in chemistry is

2:36

a metaphor knowing the different elements

2:38

, blending them appropriately and

2:40

creating a desired result .

2:43

That's a good way to look at it . You

2:45

know , I think you

2:47

know I've spent my whole life being , you

2:49

know I am a chemist , but also in

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my fun time though , I really do enjoy

2:54

chemistry . I'm a musician Probably

2:56

not a good one , but I have fun with

2:58

it . I'm also a painter , so

3:01

I've spent my life thinking

3:04

about those things as the fun things

3:06

. You know , that really give me

3:08

pleasure in life , and so

3:11

no , I agree , bringing

3:13

all the things together and trying to make them work

3:15

. It's really fun for me to champion the

3:18

disciplines that are outside my normal area

3:20

.

3:21

With responsibility for such a diverse

3:23

academic universe , what have

3:26

been some of your biggest challenges ? The pandemic

3:28

, of course , but what else ?

3:31

I think we're just , we're really large and

3:33

the pandemic certainly is something

3:36

you know , you say besides the pandemic

3:38

, but it's hard to ignore how much that's

3:40

changed higher education

3:42

, I think mostly

3:45

in good ways , because I think , even though

3:47

the pandemic itself was bad , it forced

3:49

us into a situation where we had to learn

3:52

about new technologies

3:54

, new ways to do things that

3:56

I think we would have gotten to eventually

3:59

anyway . That

4:02

changes how we teach and meet

4:04

the learning demands of this new generation

4:06

. So I think there's some good things that came out

4:08

that we were kind of forced to do faster

4:11

than normal . But

4:14

other challenges are for me

4:16

. You know , I try to be a people person . I'm

4:19

one of those people that try to make everyone

4:21

happy , you know . Good luck

4:23

with that . Yeah , I know , I know and

4:25

I see a lot of that in you too , mike . And

4:29

so the biggest challenge for me is trying

4:31

to always win and knowing that sometimes

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, you know , you're not always

4:36

going to be

4:38

victorious in every scenario . So

4:41

it's been a challenge to understand

4:43

that on the very large scale of

4:45

our big college , but

4:47

it's just been incredible

4:50

. I wouldn't change it for anything .

4:52

There are so many departments to be proud of . Can you

4:54

share some success stories that come to mind ?

4:57

Sure , I can give you . Well

4:59

, how long do you have , mike ? Well , keep going

5:01

. We've got 10 departments over 20 degrees

5:04

. I could give you success stories in every single

5:06

one . I'll give you some recent ones , sure , and

5:08

ones that kind of relate to this idea that

5:10

I'm a scientist that is

5:12

also a champion for the arts . Our

5:16

music program has just been incredible . You

5:19

know , they have doubled their majors

5:21

in a matter of a year because they

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have put

5:26

a lot of effort into actually recruiting

5:28

and going out to schools and visiting

5:31

with band directors and students

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and bands at the local high schools , and

5:36

they have doubled their majors and

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then look to double them again

5:40

this

5:42

upcoming year . So our music

5:45

program , which you'll see everywhere all the time , and

5:47

I encourage you , if you haven't listened to some of our

5:49

ensembles , our jazz band and

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the like , oh my gosh , go do it

5:53

. Yeah , dr Sarah Roberts has done such a great

5:55

job . Yeah , she's incredible . So I'm

5:57

really proud of the success that our music

5:59

program has had . I

6:02

could give many other examples

6:04

. One new area that I'm really proud

6:06

of within the college is a

6:09

few years ago we actually developed

6:12

a new program in social work , and

6:15

so recently , just last week

6:17

, we learned that our social work received

6:19

their final accreditation from

6:22

the Council of Social Work Education

6:24

and so they are now

6:26

nationally accredited program . So

6:44

we went from zero a few years ago to now this incredible , large and fully accredited program

6:46

. Very proud of that . To me it's just another important facet of what we do in a college that

6:48

puts the universe in the university , and

6:51

so really proud of

6:53

that also and like I said

6:55

, mike , I could go every department and start

6:57

listing off Every department

6:59

should be very proud of the things that

7:02

they are doing , and I know

7:04

that I certainly am .

7:06

Full disclosure here . You're my boss . You

7:08

got the idea of a UT Tyler radio station

7:11

off the ground and I got to be a part

7:13

of its assembly and startup . As we head

7:15

into three years now on the air , there's

7:17

been considerable evolution in our mission

7:20

and in our programming . Some of it's

7:22

been growing pains , huh .

7:24

Well , yeah , of course , I think we were launched

7:26

during the pandemic really , where

7:28

you know , whatever you wanted to be during

7:31

the pandemic , you had to kind of check

7:33

that a little bit and think , all right

7:35

, where do we want to be in the future

7:37

and when can we really start that

7:39

journey ? So there was a lot of just

7:42

survival making

7:44

sure all the hardware worked and all the software

7:46

worked .

7:47

We had a blank sheet of paper . Essentially we did

7:49

. I mean , we didn't take a radio station that already

7:51

existed and make it work . We bought a

7:53

frequency and then took it from there .

7:55

That's right , and so the goal has

7:57

always been to move

7:59

forward our mission as an institution

8:02

, and that this would be one way that we could do

8:04

it . So for me , it's always

8:06

about education . You know

8:08

how can we use

8:11

KVUT to

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educate , to

8:16

celebrate the fine arts , hopefully

8:19

, I've already established I'm a big champion . We

8:21

are too Of the arts , and so

8:24

how do we actually celebrate

8:26

and show the importance of the fine

8:29

and the performing arts , especially in the audio

8:31

sense , the performing arts , right . So

8:34

we love the idea of jazz because it's a lot

8:36

of what we do . So we love

8:39

the idea of jazz because it's a

8:41

lot of what we do . So growing pains , because it's a big effort and

8:43

where you want to be is not

8:45

necessarily where you are at the very

8:47

beginning . You have to walk that road

8:49

and thanks

8:51

to you and your colleagues

8:53

here within the radio station

8:55

, we are just doing a really good

8:57

job of moving things forward toward

9:01

that final mission of being kind of

9:03

this fine arts educational

9:05

radio , where I hope that

9:07

we can give a voice to our . We

9:09

have more experts . We

9:11

have an expert on everything , just about on the campus

9:14

right , we do .

9:14

You're on this campus right .

9:15

Yeah , so we have a little bit of a hostage

9:19

group

9:21

of experts that we can take advantage of .

9:22

I was thinking of it as bench strength .

9:24

There you go , we have a deep bench .

9:26

We have a deep bench .

9:27

So if we want to talk about history

9:29

, we certainly have

9:31

people that can come in and talk about history . If

9:33

we want to talk about medicine or

9:36

thing and that's what's really cool about a university

9:38

having this kind of access is

9:40

that we are able to bring the

9:43

knowledge and experience

9:45

of our faculty to bear , but

9:48

not only that , so giving them a voice , right

9:51

to be able to share things that

9:53

people are interested in , and by the way , it doesn't always

9:55

have to be super

9:57

like dry

10:00

knowledgeable things .

10:02

They're relevant . That's the thing I've enjoyed about talking

10:05

to people here on campus . They are able to

10:07

take what they do on a daily basis

10:09

and make it relevant to right now , which

10:11

is really how you communicate with students

10:13

, anyway , yeah , relevant , and sometimes just cool

10:15

and fun .

10:16

For example , you know , if you have a novelist

10:18

and we do they can come in and talk about creative

10:21

writing and things . Who doesn't want to be a novelist ? If they've do , they can come in and talk about creative

10:23

writing and things . Who doesn't want to be a novelist ? If they've read in their

10:25

life ?

10:25

Everyone wants to be a writer right , and Tara

10:27

Proper actually talked about how you get published

10:29

. This is at first . You have to grow a thick skin

10:31

, that's right .

10:33

An amazing poet , by the way . Yes , exactly

10:35

. And another very good

10:37

author , a novelist , glenn Blake

10:39

on the faculty

10:42

. That's just an incredible writer .

10:44

Yeah , and Bebe has really

10:46

got into podcasting and is

10:48

doing a great service in terms of letting people

10:50

know . What does an English literature

10:52

degree mean ? It means that

10:54

you got a better chance of getting a really

10:56

good job because you're ready .

10:58

That's right . And if you haven't listened to her

11:00

stuff , I encourage you to go do that . It's just

11:02

incredible , that's right . And if you haven't listened

11:05

to her stuff , I encourage you to go do that . It's just incredible . So

11:07

my hope always with the radio station is that we

11:09

provide informative and

11:11

beautiful things for our community and

11:13

we also give the opportunity for our

11:15

community to

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benefit East Texas

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. And how do we give our experts a voice ? How

11:22

do we give members of the community a voice

11:24

to talk about things that

11:27

are educational and interesting

11:29

but also fun ? And

11:32

those things take time , right . So

11:35

you don't just throw a radio station

11:38

together overnight and as a chemist I learned

11:40

that pretty quick and

11:42

that's been fun but

11:44

you because there is a

11:46

kind of technical side to it . It

11:49

takes some time . But then there is the

11:51

content side .

11:53

I think that with a lot of brand new ventures

11:55

, you find that you find out pretty quickly what

11:58

you didn't know . You didn't know .

12:00

Yeah , that is true . And going back

12:02

to one of your previous questions about what are

12:04

some of the things I'm most excited

12:06

about , you know , in our college that

12:08

we work with is certainly KVUT

12:11

is at the top of that . It's something that

12:13

I'm very proud of . I'm

12:15

very proud of you guys

12:18

and what you are doing , and

12:20

it's just one of those things that I feel like

12:22

, hey , I can just step back

12:24

and let it happen , and if you need

12:26

something , you know I'll go get you that something

12:29

you know .

12:30

this is being recorded .

12:31

We're going to play this back for you . I know that's right

12:34

.

12:34

You have any final thoughts you'd like to share ?

12:37

I would end with saying I really love this place

12:39

. I do , and

12:41

I think it's a great institution . We

12:44

are now at the precipice of what

12:46

we're going to be moving forward , because

12:48

I feel like every five years we

12:50

move forward in a big

12:52

way you know Dramatic

12:58

. Then I was here as a student too , so I have

13:00

seen UT Tyler pretty

13:02

much its whole life and

13:04

I have seen so many changes and

13:06

every change has been very positive

13:09

and moving in a good direction , and

13:11

I feel like that is continuing

13:14

right now in a very accelerated way

13:16

.

13:17

Thanks for listening as UT Tyler Radio connects

13:19

with Arts and Sciences College Dean Dr

13:22

Neil Gray . For UT Tyler Radio

13:24

News , I'm Mike Landis .

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