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to Care and Feeding, the show where we
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parent together. I'm Elizabeth Newkamp. I write the
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mom to three littles, Henry who's 12, Oliver
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who's 9, and Teddy who's 7. We
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Zach Rosen. I make another podcast. It's called
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she's doing something wrong. Her toddler is behind
1:42
his peers and stuff like potty training and
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question. Hey all, not sure if
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I just need a pep talk or what. My
5:50
son is amazing. Funny, sweet, loving
5:52
and two and a half. So
5:54
also everything else that comes with
5:56
that. It's Han from Picky Eater.
5:58
Defiant at times. He
6:01
also has a slight facial aid. I
6:03
think I know in my heart my son
6:05
is in behind, but how do I shake
6:07
the feelings of utter failure as a mom
6:09
when younger kids start doing things before my
6:12
son? I don't want my son
6:14
to feel like I'm somehow disappointed in him, but
6:16
as a first-time parent, how do you shake the
6:18
feeling like you're always doing things wrong? We
6:21
are trying to look at preschools for next year,
6:23
and all the three-year-old classrooms want the kids to
6:25
be patty-framed. My son is in August's
6:27
birthday, so he won't qualify to be in a two-year-old
6:29
classroom, but he just doesn't seem ready
6:31
or interested in patty-training yet. The
6:34
monasteries that I looked at the other
6:36
day wanted him independently wiping and everything,
6:39
and all the other parents on the tour were so
6:41
confident that their little three-year-olds were up to the
6:43
task. Sigh. The
6:45
list goes on for how lousy I feel as a
6:47
parent, even though the teacher in me knows he's
6:49
doing just fine. Can anyone help me
6:51
get out of this funk? Independently
6:55
wiping? Are you kidding me? That
6:57
seems unrealistic. So, first
6:59
of all, I don't know who
7:01
these other kids are who are just ready
7:03
to independently wipe their ass at three, but
7:05
it wasn't my kid. It's not
7:07
your kid, and that's okay. But
7:10
back to the main point. You know,
7:12
you say that your son is amazing, funny, sweet, loving,
7:15
so that's true. Remember
7:18
that. I
7:20
think this is just a matter of a pep talk that I
7:22
think we can give you, because especially
7:27
as a first-time parent, what you're experiencing is
7:29
very normal. The
7:31
compare and despair, like, dude, I've
7:34
been there, I'm still there. It's
7:37
a constant struggle. I think it will always
7:39
be. But this
7:41
is your work, and so I think, yes,
7:45
you don't want your son to
7:47
feel like you're disappointed in him because he's not
7:49
doing anything wrong. He's a beautiful kid. And
7:53
as we often talk about in this show, like,
7:55
therapy, this is a great thing to discuss with
7:58
your therapist. the
8:01
courage that it takes just to admit that
8:03
you're feeling this, like that's really good. A
8:05
lot of people will bottle the feeling that
8:07
you're so eloquently articulating here. They'll bottle it
8:09
up and not talk about it. So keep
8:11
talking about it. But this
8:14
is normal. Get off social media. I don't
8:16
know if that's something that you're doing, but that's not
8:18
going to help because on social
8:20
media you'll find like a three-year-old who can like
8:22
play cello and cook dinner. And
8:25
so I would do that. And also just
8:27
remember back to where I started with the
8:30
with the potty training, we talked to
8:32
a constipation coach, Dr. Christine Stevenson on
8:34
the show last year. And she was
8:36
like, you can totally and should totally
8:38
wait until your kid is really excited
8:40
about sitting on
8:42
the toilet. So like this rush to get
8:44
them trained at three, I get it. There
8:47
are classrooms that require it, but there are
8:49
also some that don't require it. So don't
8:51
think that just because the few classrooms that
8:53
you visited are like, it's normal
8:55
that your kids should be independently wiping. Like it's
8:58
not, there's no normal. Yeah. The
9:00
Mayo Clinic says that like 22% of
9:02
children are out of diapers by two and a half and 88%
9:05
of children are out of diapers by three and a half.
9:08
That's still, I just want to
9:10
add to this talk, Jack,
9:12
that these other parents, they
9:16
have a better bluff face than you. You're
9:18
more in touch with, like there's no way
9:20
that everyone else on that tour has potty
9:22
trained kids. No. They just,
9:25
you are seeing them be like, oh yes, before
9:27
they go home and they're like trying to potty
9:29
train kids that are not ready. Yeah.
9:33
Statistically, it has to be true.
9:35
Yes. The Mayo Clinic collects data.
9:40
Look into school, you know, look
9:42
at some more preschools. My daughter's
9:45
preschool actually potty trained her. Like
9:48
it was incredible. We
9:50
did not have to, like, I
9:53
have no memories of potty training. You know, it
9:55
was just a very simple process because they were
9:57
doing it at school. kids
10:00
go to the bathroom, you know, the
10:02
bathroom was right there
10:04
and it was open and seeing
10:06
their peers use the potty made
10:08
them want to do it too.
10:10
Also, kids change so fast. Like
10:13
the difference between now and starting
10:15
school next year is long. It
10:18
is long. A lot can happen
10:20
in that time, potty training wise. I
10:22
wonder on the potty training question if it
10:25
isn't worth calling the school and finding out
10:27
like, is this a desire or is this
10:29
really required, right? I
10:31
just also think we talked
10:33
with the constipation coach about how schools want
10:35
them to be potty trained because of course
10:37
there's whole different regulations if you have to
10:39
be changing diapers and all of that. But
10:42
not every kid that goes there
10:44
is fully potty trained. What do
10:46
we actually have to achieve? I
10:50
think there's like the second, so like there's the
10:53
potty training issue, but there's also this issue of
10:55
like your kid is, you
10:57
feel that your kid is behind. And
11:00
I think Zach you covered it well that that's like
11:02
your issue. I
11:05
think too the best thing is to one
11:07
sit with that and think like what are
11:09
they actually behind on
11:11
and does that quote unquote behind
11:13
matter, right? There are things like
11:16
if you're behind on speech or
11:18
some milestones, I think
11:20
the important thing is to say
11:22
like, okay, is this something that
11:25
needs intervention because we know that
11:27
early intervention for things like speech,
11:29
motor skills is really important to
11:31
lay a good foundation, but not
11:33
because being behind quote
11:35
unquote behind is somehow bad, but because
11:38
kids develop at different rates and
11:40
perhaps your child needs some
11:42
more support in some of these areas.
11:45
But I think that that is really different
11:47
than feeling that they are behind
11:50
and therefore going to miss out
11:52
on something. So
11:54
I don't want to say like my initial instinct is
11:56
to be like, all of this is made up, like
11:59
these things are made up. There are
12:01
things, speech,
12:03
motor skills, consistent
12:05
trends and things that your child
12:07
just isn't meeting at the
12:09
same time of their peers. That can be
12:12
indication that you need to look into it
12:14
further. But none of that should make you
12:16
feel that your child is not enough or
12:18
you're somehow missing out on something. Kids
12:21
at this age, it's like a growth
12:23
spurt. They will go from not doing
12:25
anything to doing it all overnight.
12:28
And you just have to support
12:30
and wait for them, for their
12:32
body, their mind to be there.
12:36
And you can always try
12:38
to make Patti's training compelling.
12:42
Put fun stuff in the bathroom,
12:44
buy one of those cutesy little
12:47
kid Patti's that's colorful and
12:49
fun looking. Have activities
12:51
in the bathroom for him, little
12:53
soft touch books that kids can
12:55
look through themselves
12:59
and a favorite toy
13:01
and offer a treat as
13:03
a reward for when he
13:05
goes into the Patti. Don't give
13:08
up on it just because he's not
13:10
showing big interest in it yet. At
13:12
least try. And again, like Zach said,
13:14
it works best when your child is
13:16
ready, when they want to do it,
13:19
when they're enthusiastic about doing it. But give
13:21
him reasons to be enthusiastic about it. I
13:26
also think you need to find a friend
13:28
you can vent this stuff to. That's
13:31
something that really helps me is having the friend that
13:33
I can call and be like, oh, I was just
13:36
on this play date with so and so and their kid
13:38
is doing all this or texting. And
13:41
she's just, oh, my kid does this, my
13:43
kid does that. And it's making me feel
13:45
like Henry's behind or whatever. And for your
13:47
friend to be able to mirror back to
13:50
you like, OK, but your kid does all
13:52
of these things. Like you you you can
13:54
have somebody
14:00
that is going to be that mirror. I also
14:03
found when I feel
14:06
like this that taking some time every
14:08
night and writing down one or two
14:10
things that my kid did that was
14:12
awesome or that I really appreciated was
14:15
really helpful to sort of end my
14:17
day thinking about all of the things
14:19
that they are doing just to bring
14:21
myself back to reminding all
14:23
of these things that you said funny sweet
14:26
loving and what
14:28
amazing qualities those are even
14:30
if some of the other things are sort of more
14:33
challenge areas like we're all made up of
14:35
areas that are easier for us or that
14:37
are you know super great and areas that
14:40
are harder and not so great and
14:42
so I think it's okay to already sort of say these
14:44
are the things that we still have to work on are
14:46
the things we have a harder time with but look at
14:49
all of these amazing things to reframe
14:51
your own mind so that in the
14:53
morning when you wake up and you're
14:55
ready to re-engage with your kid that
14:57
you're you know in
14:59
that mindset of like this is a
15:01
great kid and and we are we are
15:04
like this great family all right well
15:06
I do feel like this is so relatable I
15:08
don't if you're out there and this hasn't ever
15:11
happened to you what is the secret don't
15:14
we all constantly
15:16
feel like like we're behind we're
15:19
not doing everything we can we hope
15:24
some of this advice has helped you and
15:27
as always listeners we want to hear from
15:29
you let us know you can email us
15:31
at Karen feeding pod at slate comm or
15:33
leave us a voicemail six four six three
15:35
five seven nine three one eight we're always
15:37
curious to know what you think or if
15:40
you have any advice we're gonna
15:42
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Netflix. Have. Either of you are mean
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n. Know oh my
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Comes in to the pub
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where he works and it
18:25
is a really fascinating exploration
18:27
of not just talking bad.
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There's also an a
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sexual assault fame bad,
18:35
you know, You don't
18:37
often see with male characters and
18:39
him being a victim and prices
18:41
thing as and being vulnerable about
18:44
it and is is really fascinating.
18:46
It's really well as Did and
18:48
Baby Reindeer on Netflix. I think
18:51
it's about seven episode blah. But.
18:54
Of course I do have a
18:56
parenting related recommendation as well as
18:59
my recommendation is when you travel
19:01
with as her kids unless you
19:03
can bring them back a really
19:05
cool souvenir. Don't. Bring
19:07
them back a souvenir. I'm. Like
19:10
I said on the previous episode I just
19:12
came back from Kan Coon. We didn't go
19:14
anywhere where there was any real sobbing and
19:16
south looking to the airport like a lot
19:19
better get something for name of. and like
19:21
her having a t shirt that says Kan
19:23
Coon is not going to do anything for
19:25
her life you know like she's to all
19:27
respect animals. I could have brought some candy
19:30
from duty free. But we're trying to why so
19:32
sugar? So. I said you know I am
19:34
going to relieve myself from the guilt. When
19:36
she was younger I did typically bring her
19:38
thing fact for my travel by have always
19:40
had to bring her back saying that she
19:43
would actually like. So if you can find
19:45
something that really like does something for your
19:47
kid don't do it. A kid is not
19:49
need a t shirt were key saying or
19:51
immigrant from a place that they've never been.
19:54
And care. She was so happy that
19:56
your background. Bombing Isis I say when
19:58
picked her up at school yesterday. Why I
20:00
was waiting for her in the parking lot. The come
20:02
from dance crisis and then I just hear. Salvador
20:04
eat out. She's. She's
20:07
standing next to me. Yeah, Gave
20:10
me the biggest hug. Zach:
20:13
What are you recommending? I'm recommending
20:15
a piece in the. In
20:17
the upcoming Food Is You of a
20:19
New Yorker by Alexander Swartz, it's called
20:21
when babies rule the dinner table. In
20:24
the past two decades, American parents have started
20:26
to disappear as and give babies more choice
20:28
and more power and mealtime. So it's a
20:30
piece about the kind of evolution of baby
20:32
led weaning. And
20:34
it's got these incredibly beautiful photos
20:37
of kids stuffing their face with
20:39
different like a May. Amazing food
20:41
that. My. Kids would need because
20:43
I didn't baby led weaning like spaghetti
20:46
and sardines. And it's just like beautiful
20:48
photography of the cutest kids. But I
20:50
wanted to read one excerpt because it's
20:52
Bieksa. It speaks to are so you'll
20:54
hear wife. And
20:56
Eighty Ninety Four, the Pediatrician Luther
20:58
Emmett Whole published The Care and
21:00
Feeding Have Children. A. Catechism for
21:03
the use of mothers and children, nurses
21:05
and enormously influential guy that ushered babies
21:07
into an age of abstemious blandness. A
21:09
child's first non milk foods had big
21:11
rule. Holt instructed in one edition beef
21:14
juice should be offered at five or
21:16
six months if the infant was sickly
21:18
and anemic at ten or eleven months.
21:20
if she was hardy and robust. next
21:23
might come coddled egg whites and a
21:25
few sips of orange juice. And eighteen
21:27
months some prune pop or baked apple
21:29
could be allowed, along with stale bread.
21:31
at two. Years Baked potato. The
21:34
flavor was bad for babies. hold believe
21:36
texture to be even worse no child
21:38
can be trusted to to meet properly.
21:40
He warned all omelets or objectionable. As
21:42
for green vegetables, they must be cooked
21:44
until very soft and mast or preferably
21:47
put through a sieve. So I'm with.
21:49
We've come a long way. Baby.
21:52
Babies and it's It's a fun,
21:54
it's fun read. And
21:56
I'm an adult. Egg. Whites and
21:58
orange juice yesterday. I'm guessing. Bottles
22:02
of beef juice. No,
22:06
the pictures are so cute and I'm a
22:08
big fan of baby blood weaning so I
22:11
thought it was great. Yeah. Great.
22:14
I only read it because the link was in our... Uh-huh.
22:17
You shared the link. Yeah, I mean what some of these kids
22:19
are eating at such a young age is incredible.
22:23
Elizabeth, what are you recommending? I
22:25
have a very, like, I feel like I was inspired
22:27
by Earth Day to recommend this
22:30
book that we have called Can I Recycle This?
22:32
A Guide to Better Recycling and How to Reduce
22:35
Single Use Plastics. This sounds
22:37
really boring but it is a beautifully
22:39
illustrated guide. There's both a kids version.
22:42
The kids version I would say is probably for like
22:45
four to eight year olds but what I really like
22:47
is that the kids version actually has stuff the kids
22:49
can do. It's about
22:51
the decision making. It is
22:53
not preachy. I would call it more
22:56
of a beautifully illustrated reference book. We
23:01
were gifted the adult
23:03
copy. I bought the children's version and it
23:06
kind of lives now in our kitchen because
23:08
it's a great way to sort of look at what
23:10
you can recycle. It's a little
23:12
less helpful here in Japan just because it's... They
23:15
have... Hold this. The recycling here is... It has
23:17
to be done a very specific way but
23:19
it has these great tips on
23:23
the decisions that you're making for single
23:25
use plastic, easy ways to not do
23:27
that and what you can actually recycle
23:31
and how to kind of pull apart packaging
23:33
to be recycling the right things. It's
23:36
really lovely and I feel like if
23:38
you are trying to recycle it also
23:40
explains to both adults and children what
23:42
is actually getting recycled, what's not getting
23:44
recycled, what things make sense to recycle.
23:46
There are some things that we are
23:49
recycling that doesn't really make sense to
23:51
recycle. So anyway, it's a beautiful reference
23:53
book. It's called Can I Recycle This?
23:55
A Guide to Better Recycling and How
23:57
to Reduce Single Use Plastics by Jeannie
23:59
R. Romer. By. The way
24:01
if Japan like more evolved their cycling
24:03
practices and we are so. Yes were
24:06
like everything has to be separated
24:08
but the use a single like
24:10
the. Everything is wrapped in
24:12
plastic. So I'm very like torn on
24:14
whether we're doing better here are not.
24:16
And because they literally every piece of
24:19
fruit, I get his wrath to the
24:21
piece of plastic. and no, One carries
24:23
reusable water bottles. We. Have.
24:28
Like everybody is buying them for. Vending
24:30
machines, but there are no trash
24:32
cans available in Japan, so you
24:34
carry. All your trash home. And
24:37
then everything gets sorted. and if you don't
24:39
sort it properly, they do. Not pick
24:41
up your garbage know like cardboard. It's
24:43
all tied and box together every day
24:45
as a different pick up. So they
24:48
do like like worst sorting everything that
24:50
we have special scissors to cut the
24:52
stuff apart so. I'm unclear
24:54
I had not delved into what it's
24:56
like happening with that but we like
24:58
wash every piece of garbage like the
25:01
only such going into. The Burnable
25:03
is like actual burnable southern
25:05
food waste. There's
25:07
no like lant we don't have room for landfill. So everything
25:10
is getting. But. We have huge
25:12
incinerators here that we are three think
25:14
that's also like questionable So via. Unclear
25:18
would need an expert. To assist. But
25:20
it feels like I'm doing more
25:23
because I'm thirsty. Everything but I.
25:25
I am. A.
25:27
We have been able to like i think
25:29
through this book to like really understand and
25:31
even things that are at of like did
25:33
you know kiwi skin is edible maybe everyone
25:35
and like of eating it is good for
25:37
you. Have heard of people give a very
25:39
good at a gas drilling. There's. Things that we
25:42
taught that I feel like I grew up
25:44
tossing that actually we should be eating which
25:46
of courses in. Some. Way away. A pro
25:48
cycling breathing. Cove.
25:51
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25:53
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