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Welcome to Episode 47 of

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the Busted Buttons video game

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podcast. You know, we we spent a

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lot of time talking about

0:24

specific individual games. So

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this is our second episode in a

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row, the word is gonna be

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talking about the gaming

0:29

industry in general, I think

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we've got a great lineup of

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topics. I finally started age of

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calamity, you know, the new

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Hyrule Warriors game. So I'm

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gonna talk a little bit about

0:37

that. And I don't need to

0:37

if you don't want to talk about

0:40

that game.

0:42

Then we're going to talk

0:42

about the switch pro rumors that

0:44

have really blown up here. I

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mean, they've been circling for

0:47

a long time. Yeah, I'm really

0:47

blown up here. The last couple

0:50

of weeks. Xbox Live is

0:50

rebranding at least part of IT

0:53

services. Microsoft is trying to

0:53

buy out Discord. We've got new

0:57

Xbox controllers coming. And you

0:57

know, we can't leave PlayStation

1:00

and Sony totally out of the

1:00

list. So we are going to talk

1:03

about the news that there's

1:03

going to be a ghost of Tsushima

1:06

movie coming, which has me a

1:06

little bit excited. So you know,

1:09

last episode was very sorry.

1:10

You see, we're not going to talk about you though.

1:13

Today, although I am

1:13

enjoying my new computer chair.

1:15

I'm not gonna lie. And I know

1:15

you got one not too long. Yes. I

1:18

think that's something we could absolutely talk about at some point. But you know, so this is

1:20

a lot of it. There's a lot of

1:24

Xbox episodes. I know. We hit

1:24

PlayStation pretty hard. Yeah.

1:27

Last episode that you got your

1:27

new PlayStation five, though, so

1:29

we had to talk

1:30

about that. But we're gonna

1:30

jump right in, you know, we

1:33

started this channel, or we

1:33

started doing video game

1:36

coverage as a Zelda channel. So

1:36

it feels kind of good to talk a

1:40

little bit about a Zelda game. I

1:40

finally finally fired up age a

1:45

calamity the new Hyrule Warriors

1:45

game. First of all, I

1:49

don't know exactly if it's

1:49

a Zelda game. Like I kind of

1:51

know where you're going with

1:51

that. But I don't know if you

1:54

want to sit there and actually

1:54

say that, hey, this is a Zelda

1:56

game. Me. It's kind of more of a

1:56

spin off. Like I don't really

1:59

categorize it as a Zelda game.

1:59

But I understand people's

2:03

argument when they do but go ahead.

2:05

No, so I'm excited my

2:05

girlfriend got for me for

2:07

Christmas. But man, I was

2:07

playing cyberpunk. And then I

2:09

was playing the new

2:10

buying games anymore. Your

2:10

girlfriend is bile for you. She

2:14

knows what I like. So I need to

2:14

have a talk with her and tell

2:16

her to buy into tendo switch

2:16

online. Like do you need it? I

2:18

don't really know if you need to

2:18

understand your arguments, but

2:21

it just bothers me man. It just

2:21

bothers me every time it comes

2:24

up in conversation, which is

2:24

usually me, but I just I don't

2:27

know, man, talk to her and get that for you.

2:30

But anyway, I did finally

2:30

start aged calamity. And I gotta

2:34

say I'm not very far into it.

2:34

I'm a big fan of just kind of

2:37

like the action and hacking

2:37

slash video games in general.

2:41

Like I really enjoyed the

2:41

original Hyrule Warriors. I

2:44

mean, I get when people say you

2:44

know, it's not a true canon, or

2:47

Canon Zelda game totally

2:47

understand that but I just love

2:50

the gameplay of these all action

2:50

hacking slash games. And I know

2:54

I've been talking a lot here from the beginning. So first, you know what, I know you

2:56

haven't played age of calamity

2:59

yet but kind of what do you

2:59

think of just action games in

3:02

these hacking slash type games

3:02

in general?

3:04

I'm not really a big fan

3:04

of them. Like I do have that

3:06

approach sometimes where I've

3:06

talked about where I just go

3:09

into a fight and I just go

3:09

absolutely crazy as the years

3:12

have gone on, I still use a

3:12

little more stealth but I still

3:15

have that kind of mentality to

3:15

kind of you know go forward and

3:18

attack but that only really

3:18

happens or I like to only do

3:21

that when there's like two or

3:21

three enemies they're like you

3:24

know no no more than five

3:24

enemies while I do that so we

3:27

can go into these games like

3:27

we're just 1000s and out of

3:30

1000s let's say hundreds like

3:30

you know a lot of enemies you

3:33

had to face like to me I'm not a

3:33

big fan of that and I think

3:36

that's why I actually did start

3:36

aged claiming I did like the

3:40

first phase and I was like I

3:40

didn't really say I was done

3:42

with the game but I never got

3:42

back to after that first stage

3:46

now a lot of that right had to

3:46

do with like next gen I don't

3:49

know like I got my next my Xbox

3:49

series x sometime around that

3:54

time but then there was like

3:54

also maybe a game that came out

3:56

around the same time as aged

3:56

claiming I can't think of what

3:59

it is but there was other

3:59

factors that went into that

4:02

decision not to continue on with

4:02

age of claiming but I can't

4:05

always go back to that one point

4:05

that if a game is really good

4:09

you sit there and you play it

4:09

yeah no matter what else is

4:12

going on so me know I'm not a

4:12

fan I don't find a lot of

4:16

substance to the game I don't

4:16

like he's just to me just been

4:19

mashing I don't really care for

4:19

bum mash he like I like there to

4:22

be some structure and some

4:22

strategy not a lot don't make a

4:25

games too damn hard. Like you

4:25

know make them reasonable but

4:28

just that Hoban, mashing running

4:28

around like to me there's no

4:32

substance it's the same thing

4:32

over and over again in this

4:35

story is okay in those games, it

4:35

was okay in Hyrule Warriors but

4:40

you know it's just wants things

4:40

like you want to be honest with

4:43

you if we were still doing two

4:43

guys playing Zelda more I

4:46

probably would have played it

4:46

budget wars EPS, you know, like

4:48

we kind of talked about like I

4:48

did burnout Zelda now I enjoy

4:51

talking about it, like here and

4:51

there but just talking about all

4:54

the time playing all the time.

4:54

Now if it's a regular Zelda

4:57

game, then yes, I can do that

4:57

with Scott. sore comes out. I

5:01

mean, we'll see where I'm at

5:01

with things. I'm on my play

5:03

right away.

5:04

I've got that pre ordered.

5:04

I'm okay. Yeah.

5:07

But no, as far as the

5:07

games go, I don't really care.

5:09

And the thing is, whatever get

5:09

back to ag claiming, I honestly

5:12

don't know, like, there's, we

5:12

talked about the backlog, and

5:15

there's so many things. Now I

5:15

want to play and just in the

5:17

Xbox series x and the

5:17

PlayStation five, I want to

5:21

enjoy both of those systems

5:21

right now. So it's kind of man,

5:23

we could really do a good

5:23

transition right now for the

5:25

switch Pro. Group, that would

5:25

have been an absolutely

5:30

great transition. But I do

5:30

want to talk just a little bit

5:33

more about age, because I know

5:33

I've only played just a little

5:37

bit of it. Oh, man, that would

5:37

have been a great training we

5:42

naturally

5:44

But no, I did play a little

5:44

bit of it. I will say I love the

5:47

idea of like exploring Breath of

5:47

the wilds high rule before the

5:51

calamity before it was

5:51

destroyed. I know that's one

5:54

thing you and I talked a lot

5:54

about with Breath of the Wild

5:56

was just we didn't like that

5:56

everything was in ruins. We

6:00

wanted to see what was it like

6:00

before that so I mean, age, a

6:04

calamity may have not been like

6:04

the best way to do that. In my

6:06

opinion. I would have liked it

6:06

to be you know, a little more

6:08

mainline Zelda. And maybe we'll

6:08

get that with the breath of the

6:12

wild sequel. Maybe it will be a

6:12

prequel instead. I don't know

6:15

who knows what we're gonna get.

6:15

But you know, so I do love this

6:18

version of Hyrule. But the art

6:18

style though I'm not entirely

6:23

sold on the art style not

6:23

because it's very similar Breath

6:25

of the wilds and rip the wild

6:25

has an absolutely amazing art

6:28

style for that for that game,

6:28

but I thought Hyrule Warriors

6:33

just took Zelda in a different

6:33

art direction that I thought

6:37

like popped so much more and I'm

6:37

not just talking about sia, but

6:40

clearly she was poppin But yeah,

6:43

I we talked about that for a while.

6:47

But you know, I kind of

6:47

missed that like original Hyrule

6:49

Warriors, you know, a bit of a

6:49

slicker, not necessarily more

6:52

realistic, but just a different

6:52

art style. So to lose that and

6:56

come to, you know, the Breath of

6:56

the Wild arsa which again,

6:59

absolutely beautiful, great art

6:59

style. It's just, I just thought

7:03

that original Hyrule Warriors

7:03

art style fit that style of game

7:08

so well. And so I do kind of

7:08

miss that. But I'm excited to

7:11

dig a little more into aged

7:11

calamity. It's got a little more

7:14

complexity to it, then it seems

7:14

like the original windage is

7:18

from what little I've played. So

7:18

I'm excited to get into it. I

7:21

think I will play it all the way

7:21

through. I did beat the original

7:24

Hyrule Warriors, and I really

7:24

enjoyed it. So yeah, I'm excited

7:27

to play through Asia calamity.

7:27

But for me, like I just like

7:30

these action games in general.

7:30

You've heard me talk on here

7:33

before you know Bayonetta is one

7:33

of my all time favorite video

7:36

game series, even though there's

7:36

only two of them. A third ones

7:38

hopefully coming Nintendo teased

7:38

a while too, you know,

7:42

which is also same as the

7:42

detox out by Dr. Dre. We talked

7:45

about all this before.

7:47

I'm very excited like

7:47

because I really do enjoy these

7:50

kind of these hack and slash

7:50

action games or use fighting

7:53

hordes upon hordes of enemies. I

7:53

do completely understand where

7:57

you're coming from with sometimes it does feel like it devolves into some button

7:59

mashing and yeah, a lot of

8:02

strategy, you feel like you're

8:02

doing the same like combo?

8:04

Exactly. But you know, to me, I

8:04

do think there are some of the

8:09

series is like the action game

8:09

series have a little more

8:12

structure a little more

8:12

linearity to them. Bayonetta and

8:15

Devil May Cry are both great

8:15

series is where you actually

8:17

have a stronger story and a

8:17

little more linear instead of

8:21

just running around a

8:21

battlefield. So yeah, that's why

8:24

those really jumped out for me.

8:24

So I'm, I'm a little bit

8:27

different from you, and that I

8:27

do love these kind of games. And

8:30

I do hope to play through aged

8:30

calamity. But how about now now?

8:34

How about you make a great transition?

8:38

gonna do the transition

8:38

for me, but I guess Okay, since

8:40

we're talking about Nintendo, I

8:40

guess we'll talk about the

8:43

upcoming switch pro in the rumor

8:43

surrounded about that, which I

8:46

want to get to, right when it's

8:46

talking about next year, you

8:49

want to talk about aged

8:49

claiming, so it just didn't

8:52

work. I was like, oh, man, that'd been the perfect opportunity. So what we'd like

8:54

to do when we screwed up, is we

8:57

actually actually like to talk

8:57

about the transition is

9:01

happening, because that's not

9:01

what you're supposed to do. At

9:03

least I don't think I don't

9:03

know. We're not professionals,

9:05

people. But anyway, potential

9:05

Nintendo Switch Pro. We talked

9:09

about this before. It's been a

9:09

rumor for years and years. And I

9:13

think we're kind of close to

9:13

them. What's the What year is

9:16

2021? Those switches been out

9:16

for three, three and a half

9:19

years. You take a concept about

9:19

life cycle of about seven. So

9:23

this is midway, so you wouldn't

9:23

expect some kind of upgrade or

9:26

upgrade? Maybe not great, I

9:26

guess, right about now because

9:29

you can just do updates the

9:29

regular switch, which I don't

9:32

know, like, why do I go out and

9:32

buy a new switch to get the

9:35

other day or the upgrade? Like

9:35

why can't you just like come

9:37

with that stuff on your system,

9:37

which is why I'm hoping like I

9:40

said last episode PS five, make

9:40

it big so you can add stuff to

9:44

that that's already there. You

9:44

don't have to go out and buy a

9:46

new system. But anyways, that's

9:46

not the point of this

9:49

conversation. But um, so switch

9:49

Pro, first of all the rumors

9:53

kind of are a seven inch screen

9:53

instead of a 6.2 inch. That

9:57

might not sound like a lot. I

9:57

can tell you that. I don't have

9:59

any thing of for me to really

9:59

know what that is but right I

10:02

can tell you probably is a lot

10:02

like when you're talking about

10:04

screens that small point eight

10:04

inches is a lot so I'm in all

10:08

things nice anything's

10:08

Yeah, exactly

10:10

a 4k wind doc. Now here's

10:10

the disappointment right here.

10:13

720 still in handheld mode, how

10:13

the hell you're gonna go from 10

10:18

ADP to 2160 p but stay the same

10:18

in handheld mode. That is an

10:23

absolute disgrace. They do

10:23

better on that?

10:27

I don't know. Yeah.

10:28

But um, it'll see. It's

10:28

going to use this dl SS to

10:32

achieve this 4k, which I guess.

10:32

Okay, I'm going to actually read

10:35

exactly what you wrote on the

10:35

outline uses AI to enhance lower

10:40

resolution images to higher

10:40

resolution without needing a

10:43

higher end graphics card. I had

10:43

no idea what any of that means.

10:47

I just know that you're doing

10:47

something fancy to get 4k,

10:50

I can jump in on that one

10:50

cuz I when I heard that, and

10:53

I've heard the term dlss but I'm

10:53

not a I'm not an expert. It's

10:57

apparently a piece in the video

10:57

technology and like what it

11:00

does, like it uses this Yeah,

11:00

computer learning this AI to

11:04

like it fills in the blanks,

11:04

almost like say it's running

11:08

natively at only 720 K, but this

11:08

AI like DLLs it's like deep

11:14

learning. I forget what the SS

11:14

stands for, but it like fills in

11:18

the gaps like it uses AI to fill

11:18

in and make it appear higher

11:23

resolution. And when the tech

11:23

apparently when the technology

11:25

was like really young that led

11:25

to some kind of actually

11:28

crappier images because the AI

11:28

wasn't that smart yet. Yeah. But

11:33

I guess it's really improved and

11:33

there have been some studies and

11:35

articles I've read a lot of it

11:35

just this week when I was

11:39

researching Yeah, people were

11:39

talking like sometimes dlss

11:43

actually creates a better image

11:43

than something running natively

11:47

at 4k and I'm like that blows my

11:47

mind

11:50

and in tendo would do they

11:50

will use a lesser I don't wanna

11:53

say technology they use

11:53

something less or to make it

11:56

look better.

11:57

Exactly. Exactly so so I'm

11:57

excited I'm you know, like you

12:02

said this switch pro rumors we've we've talked about it before and then the upgrades

12:04

look nice like I said the 4k dot

12:08

is great. I'm completely with

12:08

you on the set up and handheld

12:12

at least at least give us 10 ADP

12:12

i mean but and I get you know

12:16

battery life size you know

12:16

heating all that plays into that

12:20

I'm absolutely sure but the big

12:20

question is, would you buy one

12:24

or what would it take for you to

12:24

go out and buy a switch pro?

12:28

No, man I just got next

12:28

gen I just got ps4 Xbox series x

12:32

though I'm not going to buy this

12:32

I'm not one of those people I've

12:35

never done it we'll see this

12:35

next year I don't think I'll do

12:38

it this Gen either but I've

12:38

never bought like both systems

12:41

in a life cycle like you know

12:41

you have like if I bought the

12:43

ps4 base I would never bought

12:43

the ps4 Pro. So right away I'm

12:48

just not a fan of buying two

12:48

systems from the same generation

12:51

even though one of them is an

12:51

upgrade So no, it's not

12:54

something that I'll get in this

12:54

is kind of cool because they can

12:57

now compete more with third

12:57

party games like you know,

13:00

versus like, you know, the Xbox

13:00

series x and five they can't

13:04

compete in that space being 4k

13:04

but think really where their

13:07

advantages is in the portability

13:07

aspect and that's where I think

13:12

they're losing in this whole

13:12

thing is like you know, you

13:14

don't need to be 4k in handheld

13:14

mode the dead now that would be

13:17

impressive right their battery

13:17

got if you got to 10 ATP you

13:23

might start to creep into third

13:23

party category which I don't

13:26

know the stats or anything but

13:26

my thinking off the top of my

13:28

head would be that they're still

13:28

losing that third party rights

13:32

because Xbox series x and the PS

13:32

five so you know if you just

13:36

made a tear up I think they can

13:36

compete on that front and right

13:40

now where they're at with these

13:40

next to next gen consoles out

13:43

like they really I feel dr go

13:43

have a hard time competing even

13:46

at 4k like right now people just

13:46

I don't think they liked it.

13:50

Like this switch doesn't have as

13:50

much in regards to like the

13:53

interface that the PS five and

13:53

then the Xbox does like the

13:57

switch does things really well.

13:57

But there's not a lot to it,

13:59

which is fine. But I'm just

13:59

saying like when you think about

14:02

a it's not a computer, but a

14:02

computer technology gaming

14:06

console, you really don't think

14:06

about the switch, you think

14:08

about the Xbox and you think

14:08

about the PlayStation so really

14:12

doctor not God, they might see

14:12

some of their veins there's

14:14

gonna be some players, but that

14:14

Hey, no, that's really where

14:18

they got capitalized. And that's

14:18

why I think keep it at 720 is

14:21

just a terrible idea now as you

14:21

said there could be other issues

14:25

behind the scenes and

14:25

overheating battery life you

14:27

know stuff like that but it's

14:27

just like if you're gonna keep

14:30

the hate like that's the

14:30

advantage that's still think

14:33

that you have right now when

14:33

these next gen consoles come out

14:35

and you sit there and you keep

14:35

it the same I just don't think

14:39

that's a good idea. But anyways

14:39

to you. Would you buy the switch

14:42

pro?

14:42

I'm with you. I've also as

14:42

far as I can remember have never

14:46

bought two versions. Okay, save

14:46

20

14:49

bucks for the tendo switch

14:49

online How the fuck you, bro.

14:53

But no, I'm

14:53

with you because like I

14:53

bought, you know, an Xbox, the

14:56

original Xbox One sorry. So

14:56

you're trying to think what

14:59

generation And then when I

14:59

finally bought a PlayStation

15:02

four, yeah, I bought the Pro.

15:03

Xbox One was like a third

15:03

generation Red or whatever it

15:06

was, but I didn't buy like

15:06

the 1x or whatever. And so it's

15:12

to me, I'm just with you in

15:12

general, I have a hard time

15:15

justifying, especially if you

15:15

know, the rumored price point,

15:18

they're talking between 350 and

15:18

$400. Yeah, which I get. I mean,

15:22

I get if it's better specs is

15:22

better technology, and you're

15:24

paying, you know what you did

15:24

for the original switch? Yeah,

15:27

you're getting a better bang for

15:27

your buck. But if you bought the

15:29

original switch, there's just

15:29

not a lot of purpose to it. So

15:33

I, you know, here's my biggest

15:33

thing. You're absolutely right

15:37

on the third party games, it

15:37

would it would let them compete

15:39

a little better in the third

15:39

party realms maybe get better

15:42

ports, you know, things like

15:42

that. But you know, when people

15:45

buy Nintendo games for the

15:45

systems, for the first party

15:48

games, you buy a Nintendo

15:48

console for Mario, Zelda Mario

15:52

Kart, like all those types of

15:52

games, Pokemon, all that stuff.

15:56

And Nintendo already makes those

15:56

games looks so beautiful. They

16:01

don't need the 4k. They don't

16:01

need all that to make their

16:06

games look awesome. Because they

16:06

but they need that further third

16:09

party game. Exactly, exactly.

16:09

And that's like, that's why. But

16:12

again, like I said, most people

16:12

buy a switch because they want

16:14

to play Nintendo games, not

16:14

necessarily third party games.

16:17

And it's great that third

16:17

parties are coming to the switch

16:21

more and more, which is a whole

16:21

different topic of conversation.

16:24

As you know, Beth so has been

16:24

one of the best companies about

16:26

porting its games to switch

16:26

between stuff like Doom,

16:29

Wolfenstein, Skyrim, all that

16:29

stuff. What the hell is gonna

16:32

happen to that with Microsoft

16:32

buying Bethesda? But that Yeah,

16:34

that's a whole different. Yeah.

16:34

But you know, I just, I just

16:38

think Nintendo's art style for

16:38

its first party games doesn't

16:43

require it to be on the cutting

16:43

edge of technology in terms of

16:46

4k and all this, you know, up

16:46

upscaling all that stuff. It

16:51

helps. Don't get me wrong. I

16:51

mean, I will say, absolutely.

16:54

Mario Odyssey looks a hell of a

16:54

lot better than Mario 64. I

16:57

mean, yes, that fits from the

16:57

better technology, but it's not

17:00

a necessity for those Nintendo

17:00

first party games. So as long as

17:04

he keeps playing Nintendo first

17:04

party games, and they still look

17:08

awesome. I'm not gonna sweat too

17:08

much about the pro version.

17:11

Because if I want to play third

17:11

party game, I'm gonna play it on

17:13

my fucking Xbox series x, or,

17:13

you know, down the line, the

17:16

PlayStation five. So I know not

17:16

everyone's in that fortunate

17:19

position that you know, that we

17:19

really are. And we can do that.

17:22

But you know, to me, it's, it's

17:22

great that they're doing it, not

17:26

something I'm necessarily going

17:26

to jump out and buy day one. But

17:30

you know, we've spent our first

17:30

what 18 minutes here talking

17:33

about Nintendo Nintendo

17:33

Nintendo. Let's talk a little

17:36

bit about Microsoft because

17:36

they've also been in the news

17:39

quite a bit here lately. One of

17:39

the big announcements and this

17:43

kind of blew my mind I mentioned

17:43

Microsoft buying Bethesda.

17:46

They're apparently offering 10

17:46

billion that's billion with a

17:50

motherfucking B Yeah, by discord

17:50

and first of all, other than

17:56

Windows money right there that's

17:56

fucking windows money right

17:59

there. But you know, there's not

17:59

necessarily a whole lot to talk

18:02

about this but but what do you

18:02

think about well first of all

18:05

that dollar amount, but then

18:05

Microsoft is buying discord in

18:07

general what do you think?

18:09

I mean, I hate when this happens, but I understand it like you create something with

18:11

the intentions of making a lot

18:14

of money off of it someday down

18:14

the line, but discord had to

18:17

hack that kind of Whoa, not

18:17

small community but like, you

18:20

know, it was made by somebody

18:20

and like it like there's a lot

18:22

of integrity. People probably

18:22

argue that a little bit but you

18:26

know, there's a lot of integrity

18:26

behind the brand like you know,

18:29

it wasn't owned by big

18:29

corporation and stuff like that

18:32

and people really enjoy things

18:32

like that these days because

18:34

there's so many corporations

18:34

that go out and they buy up

18:37

everything as we sit here and

18:37

bitch about Xbox not putting

18:40

enough studios you know, so for

18:40

me like it kind of sucks in that

18:44

point. Like, like even though

18:44

discord was big. It still felt

18:48

small. Like now a big

18:48

corporation has it and you like

18:52

Yeah, well you don't have it yet. They're trying Yeah, well, they

18:54

don't have it yet. But you're like what are they going to do with it? Like I don't

18:56

think exports I feel are not

18:59

Xbox Microsoft I feel has been

18:59

good recently and like maybe

19:03

buying stuff but keeping them

19:03

like the same like don't don't

19:06

fix something if it's not broken

19:06

like discord you might need some

19:09

improvements like here or there

19:09

but overall discord is not

19:13

broken so don't fix it. I

19:13

honestly don't think that

19:16

they're going to I think they

19:16

did this more just because

19:18

discord for the most part is a

19:18

gaming chat room wherever you

19:23

want called game chat lounge.

19:23

But um, like you know, there are

19:26

other things on there that

19:26

aren't gaming but for the most

19:28

part it is gaming. So I think

19:28

they've kind of bought this like

19:32

he was already integrated with

19:32

Xbox in certain ways. But I

19:35

think they're gonna really take this and they're going to integrate somehow will we like

19:37

that? You know, who knows but I

19:40

think they're gonna try and make

19:40

the whole engagement and

19:43

interaction better with the Xbox

19:43

by buying Discord. What's your

19:47

opinions on it?

19:48

No, I'm, I'm with you in

19:48

general that you know, discord

19:51

has been an unbelievable

19:51

success. I mean, it took us a

19:54

while to get on the whole

19:54

discord train like it had been

19:58

around for a little bit and we

19:58

heard about it. We had heard

20:00

about it,

20:00

but it seems sound like is

20:00

a technology thing at first

20:03

because it's Discord server,

20:03

you're like, well I don't want I

20:06

don't know anything about

20:06

servers, I can't get a Discord

20:08

server set one up and then you

20:08

kind of realize how easy it is.

20:11

So I think the whole server word

20:11

kept people away from it for a

20:15

little while,

20:16

but it's just it's just a

20:16

great success story where it

20:19

were a group or a person,

20:19

whatever, like just started this

20:22

thing and they're like, yeah,

20:22

you have servers and then you

20:24

have channels and that server

20:24

and you join a server you can

20:27

chat on any of those channels

20:27

and you know, with some

20:30

limitations, of course, and it

20:30

seems so simple and plus like

20:33

you said, it was so tailored for

20:33

video games like it'll show you

20:36

what game you're playing PL

20:36

eventually ended like the voice

20:39

chat I mean, hell that's part of

20:39

our podcast process. We're over

20:42

Discord. I mean, I sound like a

20:42

damn advertisement for it. Yeah,

20:45

but you know, it really was a

20:45

great success story and I get it

20:49

man when somebody comes at you

20:49

with that kind of money it's

20:52

hard to say no or even if they

20:52

just that's why you did in the

20:55

first place

20:55

everybody creates to make

20:55

money like you don't create

20:58

something just to create

20:59

I'm sorry if I created

20:59

something and Microsoft came to

21:01

my door with a 10 billion now

21:01

check that thing before I even

21:05

knew what so your

21:07

$10 million sorry $10

21:07

billion in front of your face

21:11

because you would do everybody

21:11

here listen to this podcast will

21:14

do the exact same thing. If they

21:14

saw Tim billion dollars they'd

21:17

be like I'm out of here. Good

21:17

luck. I'm going to live on an

21:21

island somewhere Exactly.

21:22

And so you know, I'm happy

21:22

for the people who created

21:25

discord if it goes through I

21:25

mean, there's I guess there have

21:27

been a few suitors coming after

21:27

it or and they've even talked

21:30

about maybe going public you

21:30

know, just you know, which also

21:33

works but no matter what I feel

21:33

like if you sell or you go

21:37

public, you do lose some of that

21:37

sense of community and like it

21:41

still has that small feel even

21:41

though it is basically dominated

21:45

so much of like the video game

21:45

conversation last year so it

21:51

just with how quickly it

21:51

advanced and became the go to

21:54

place to talk video games to

21:54

stream like any other than

21:58

twitch Of course, but you know,

21:58

so I'm, I would be sad to see it

22:02

sell but I would completely

22:02

understand it. You know, my

22:05

thought is you know, Microsoft

22:05

already has its messaging video

22:08

service was Skype. I don't know

22:08

if they would

22:11

get rid of that shit now,

22:11

right? Yes, Korean? Skype Skype

22:15

is terrible, man.

22:16

I'm with you. I'm not a big Skype fan. We

22:18

used to use Skype before

22:18

we went to discord for this

22:21

podcast and we had some issues

22:21

with it. That's exactly so

22:25

I always hoped they would

22:25

phase it out entirely and just

22:27

use Discord. You know? And

22:27

there's just there's always

22:30

especially with video game

22:30

companies there's always that

22:33

concern you know, when a bigger

22:33

Corporation does out a studio

22:37

like we've seen it you know,

22:37

when active at

22:39

least Microsoft is in

22:39

gaming unlike Google just as

22:42

like oh, we're gonna start

22:42

streaming service one day you

22:45

know think about discord and

22:45

then we all been pissed off

22:48

about so waste somebody's video

22:48

games and video game systems

22:52

bought it

22:52

and I would love to see

22:52

them like if they could find

22:55

some kind of way to integrate

22:55

the Xbox Live or the sorry, the

22:59

Xbox network we'll get to that Xbox with discord you know and

23:01

make it smooth and make it work

23:05

I would be great with that. You

23:05

know, whether it's sharing

23:07

videos and screenshots or

23:07

streaming straight from your

23:10

Xbox over discord like I'm sure

23:10

there's ways they could

23:14

integrate that and I think it

23:14

look really cool. Like I said, a

23:16

lot of fans have been burned

23:16

when it comes to video games.

23:19

Usually it's bigger studios

23:19

buying littler studios. Yeah, so

23:23

that when Activision was buying

23:23

up everybody EA was buying up

23:27

everybody and use all beloved

23:27

studios like Blizzard and

23:31

Bioware just they kind of they

23:31

haven't gone away obviously

23:35

Blizzard and Bioware still both

23:35

huge but they both the quality

23:39

down dropped you know you got

23:39

more corporate involved. Yeah,

23:43

yeah. And it's just like it's

23:43

just shareholders like

23:46

when the game when the

23:46

game came out. When is the game

23:48

coming out? They know nothing

23:48

about actually developing games.

23:50

That's exactly

23:52

so so it's it's hitting it

23:52

like good for discord good for

23:55

the pm created it. Because like

23:55

we said, If someone's giving me

23:58

$10 billion, I'm taking it and

23:58

I'm not asking twice.

24:02

The thing I would do things I would do for $10 billion, not for this podcast.

24:04

We say a lot of raunchy shit on

24:09

this podcast, man. So anyway,

24:09

speaking of Microsoft news, we

24:14

also got news about the what's

24:14

it called the now confused Xbox.

24:18

Which I guess they're going to

24:18

call it the Xbox network which I

24:21

don't know why it came in right

24:21

there because I was actually

24:24

right at talk but he was that

24:24

gets back to you on this one.

24:27

What's your opinions on this?

24:27

Xbox Live rebranding and we know

24:31

how Microsoft brands I mean, the

24:31

Xbox series x, who the hell came

24:35

up with that name, so they're

24:35

rebranding their name and you

24:38

know, they've not had the best

24:38

track record on it. But Xbox

24:42

Live is apparently going to Xbox

24:42

network. Give me your opinions

24:45

on what's going on there. Man. You

24:47

are kidding when we talk

24:47

about some of xboxes branding

24:51

has not exactly been on point. I

24:51

think I think you hit that

24:54

exactly on the head. We've

24:54

laughed at their naming

24:56

convention for their console's

24:56

for a long time, but you know, I

25:00

This one actually makes a little

25:00

bit of sense because there it

25:03

seemed like there was always a

25:03

little bit of confusion between

25:06

Xbox Live which is just like

25:06

their network just your network

25:10

versus Xbox Live Gold which you

25:10

know let you get the free games

25:14

you play the multiplayer so by

25:14

at least rebrand Can you explain

25:19

that I

25:19

actually never knew the

25:19

difference between those two so

25:21

that tells you right there how

25:21

confusing it actually was.

25:25

Because I guess why would you

25:25

like have a name for the network

25:28

if like you You gotta have

25:28

something to be on the network

25:31

so it really be called that so I

25:31

mean, it makes it a little bit

25:34

since But even now hearing it

25:34

that's first time I've heard it

25:37

and it still is confusing.

25:39

And it's it's still not

25:39

perfect because now they're just

25:42

saying Xbox network is just like

25:42

it's their whole like ecosystem.

25:46

It's it's, you know, you can get

25:46

on the, you know, the store.

25:49

It's any of that, you know, the

25:49

free to use stuff. The

25:53

underlying network is just Xbox

25:53

network. So to me, that makes

25:57

sense. But they're still calling

25:57

like, if you pay for a

26:00

subscription. You know, it's

26:00

still Xbox Live Gold, you know,

26:03

so from that standpoint, there's

26:03

no longer Xbox Live and Xbox

26:08

Live Gold. It's just

26:10

an Xbox Live go now an

26:10

Xbox network that's more

26:13

confusing the first one. Like,

26:13

here we go once again with Xbox

26:18

branding. Like what are they

26:18

doing here? There's really I

26:21

mean, it's been Xbox Live since

26:21

I can't remember like waves like

26:24

since day one. Yeah, Halo two

26:24

came out for free so why like

26:29

okay. Oh my god now I'm just

26:29

getting pissed off. Cuz like

26:32

he's, he's here to talk about

26:32

more. I started like, I never I

26:34

didn't hear Oh, I actually did

26:34

hear about this earlier in the

26:37

week, but I didn't really look

26:37

into it. But as you're sitting

26:39

here, you're explaining it more

26:39

and more. It just sounds more

26:42

and more dumb. Like Okay, I

26:42

understand why you call it Xbox

26:45

network. First of all, that's

26:45

generic as fuck like how you

26:48

gonna do like in at least Xbox

26:48

series x is not a generic name.

26:52

Now it's too long. I don't know

26:52

why I had to go that far called

26:55

Xbox. Like I said, you should

26:55

call Xbox five Qian saying you

26:59

can find four iterations that

26:59

you had before. Xbox series x

27:03

like I just don't understand but

27:03

at least it was not generic and

27:07

not just like a workbooks

27:07

network. That's boring shit.

27:10

Like, you know, I like Xbox Live

27:10

a lot better than that name. So

27:14

but like, I'm getting mad cuz

27:14

Yeah, you gonna call Xbox

27:17

network? But then you got the

27:17

Xbox Live Gold? Why can't you

27:20

just call fucking Xbox go like

27:20

that makes sense? Because you're

27:23

getting rid of the live you

27:23

rebrand to the network. So take

27:26

that dear bitch out of

27:26

subscription and just call it

27:29

Xbox go. Damn, Xbox, you making

27:29

shit too complicated places

27:33

PlayStation Plus, it's all

27:33

fucking is. You buy PlayStation

27:36

Plus to get some deals you play

27:36

on bam, boom, they have a

27:39

fucking name for their network.

27:39

It's just the fucking network.

27:42

It's just called the damn word. Like

27:46

pissed off about something.

27:46

I'm glad you got worked up. I

27:49

feel like we've been a little

27:49

even keel just here. So I'm glad

27:53

something got that fire.

27:54

I don't know. Like I read

27:54

it. We get worked up sometimes.

27:56

And a lot of times, like you

27:56

know, I hear something. I really

27:59

don't think about it. Like I

27:59

said I was hearing you explain

28:02

it. I was like, Nah, I don't

28:02

like this the same thing with

28:06

like, Nintendo Switch online.

28:06

Like, there's way too long of a

28:09

name right now. That's cool.

28:09

Let's not get into that. Let's

28:14

just okay, I don't want to go

28:14

off again. But there's too long

28:19

too. And that's one part where

28:19

like one place where PlayStation

28:23

gets it right? You basically

28:23

have your PlayStation Plus, and

28:27

that's really everything. It's yours. There's not your subscription. It's PlayStation

28:28

now. But you know you get your

28:32

discounts and that's also how

28:32

you play online. I can only pay

28:34

60 bucks you can play online you

28:34

get these discounts simple BANG

28:38

BANG networks

28:41

I don't know PlayStations is that much simpler? Because you got you got PSN PlayStation

28:42

Network then you got PlayStation

28:45

Plus then you got PlayStation

28:45

now I don't know much I think

28:49

they're both fucking this up.

28:51

Honestly forgot about PSN.

28:51

That's a good point. Cuz Yeah,

28:53

so people have tags and I'm

28:53

okay. I still like it better

28:57

than Xbox.

28:59

But I will say like I think

28:59

all this is is kind of a bit of

29:02

a reaction. You know, I think it

29:02

was a couple months ago they had

29:05

floated the idea of increasing

29:05

the price of Xbox Live Gold and

29:09

the backlash was pretty was

29:09

pretty severe which is

29:11

unnecessary In my opinion,

29:11

because things are costing more

29:13

these days but whatever

29:15

it's just it's just like oh

29:15

no, I'm gonna go it's just like

29:18

people bitching about games

29:18

costing $70 Yeah, that's what

29:21

they've been 60 bucks for 15

29:21

fucking years yeah, I think it

29:24

cost the same to make a 4k 150

29:24

our open world game that it did

29:29

to make fucking Super Mario back

29:29

in the 80s no

29:33

more gamers are men are

29:33

cheaper Why pay more for my

29:36

games with your fucking ass and

29:36

go to school quit playing games.

29:40

Oh, tangent, but

29:42

don't get me go. Bam.

29:42

worked up again.

29:44

But but man so like, you

29:44

know, and that got a lot of

29:47

backlash, which like say kind of

29:47

pisses me off. But I think

29:49

Microsoft really floated that on

29:49

purpose just to gauge the

29:51

reaction. Yeah, and you know,

29:51

I'm part of this like they're,

29:54

they just want to get a

29:54

different name associated with

29:57

it. I get that they're keeping

29:57

the Xbox Live Gold name. Though

30:00

which still is I'm with you.

30:00

Yeah, ton of fucking since one

30:03

thing I do like to see as your

30:03

question I kind

30:05

of like a little bit off topic, but yeah, cuz this generation not feel a little bit

30:07

different, like every generation

30:10

is different. But I know that

30:10

this generation, but like we're

30:13

changing things and like there's

30:13

a new future that's not been the

30:16

same in gaming, like it just

30:16

overall just feels different to

30:18

me.

30:19

I think it does and I'm

30:19

excited about like, there's more

30:23

and more at our fingertips. I

30:23

mean, we've we've pimped game

30:26

paths before we've pimped. Yeah,

30:26

we're hoping PlayStation now

30:29

gets streaming, we're hoping all

30:29

that stuff gets there. And it's

30:33

so exciting. Like, I feel like

30:33

it is not even to do with like

30:36

graphics or anything like that.

30:36

It's just all this other quality

30:39

of live stuff. It's

30:41

about the experience

30:41

nowadays, like okay, 4k, really?

30:43

Yeah, it looks great. But

30:43

PlayStation is also doing that.

30:46

So what else are you going to

30:46

offer me in terms of experience,

30:50

that's what I want from you

30:50

nowadays. And it really feels

30:52

like they're kind of focusing on

30:52

that we canceled the last topic

30:55

with Xbox and discord like, you

30:55

know, they're kind of getting

30:58

outside of games and trying to

30:58

focus on the interaction and the

31:03

experience. So I really don't know what's going on with that. So you can kind of continue

31:07

in this day and age where

31:07

you know, there's so much

31:10

content creators on YouTube

31:10

there's so many streamers on

31:13

Twitch discord blew up with

31:13

people who just want to talk

31:16

video games like it's gone

31:16

beyond just finding a

31:20

multiplayer, you know, server or

31:20

multiplayer room on fucking Halo

31:25

three and and just playing with

31:25

those people like it is blown up

31:28

into such a huge industry

31:30

that just but do we miss

31:30

those small needed groups that

31:33

we don't

31:34

Yes, I do. I don't play on Twitch or YouTube

31:35

obviously is slow the fuck down.

31:38

I'm yeah, I'm sorry, I'm

31:38

dropping a lot of F bombs up now

31:41

too. But you know, hey, we always say this is not the PG

31:42

channel.

31:44

I mean, it's like, you know, when the first Halo game came out, like, you know, you

31:46

had your eight friends that you

31:48

sit there and you played Halo

31:48

with and like a lot that really

31:51

is gone. I'm not saying that's a

31:51

bad thing. But just we have

31:55

access to talk with more people

31:55

and to interact with more

31:58

people, which is great. But at

31:58

the same time you lose some of

32:01

that small knit community. Like

32:01

if you have a Discord server

32:04

with 10 people like why would I

32:04

come to your Discord server,

32:07

there's only 10 people like it's

32:07

all about how many followers you

32:10

have these days, and how many

32:10

people are on your Discord

32:12

server, and all the other stuff,

32:12

you know, numbers, numbers,

32:15

numbers, and we've kind of

32:15

gotten away from that small knit

32:18

community and you know, we'll

32:19

make a living off of it now

32:19

people may have fucking and we

32:22

are so far from the original

32:22

topic, but I'm okay with it.

32:25

Like it because you're

32:25

absolutely right. Things are

32:27

different than they were just

32:27

two years ago. Yeah. And it's

32:30

insane to think what YouTube and

32:30

Twitch have turned into and

32:34

discord for gaming just you

32:34

know, people literally make

32:38

their living off dreaming and

32:38

good for people who can do it

32:41

without getting burned out. We

32:42

talked about this it's

32:42

like going to the pros, only a

32:44

certain percentage make it that

32:44

big, you know, everybody wants

32:47

to go out there. Everybody

32:47

thinks they can do it. People

32:49

I'm telling you right now, it's

32:49

not easy. A lot of times those

32:53

people have backers whether it

32:53

be like you know an investor or

32:56

big company or something like

32:56

that, what helps edit their

32:59

stuff? Yes, exactly. They are

32:59

they have to have money, like

33:02

you know, let's be honest, this

33:02

stuff, it costs a lot of money

33:04

and to do all this on your own,

33:04

it's almost damn near

33:07

impossible. So these people,

33:07

most of them I'm not saying that

33:10

there's not somebody who start

33:10

off doing all their own that may

33:13

big dead definitely probably

33:13

happen. I'm saying the majority

33:16

of these people, they have some

33:16

kind of resource that is helping

33:20

them out whether it be money,

33:20

whether it be a team, whether it

33:22

be a business backing them they

33:22

have something so don't give you

33:27

advice, don't sit there and

33:27

think you can make a living on

33:30

gaming it's very hard the

33:30

markets oversaturated it's

33:33

becoming more and more

33:33

saturated. And the other thing

33:36

is you're seeing a lot of these

33:36

people that are doing it they

33:39

are starting to become like kind

33:39

of depressed like you know, we

33:42

seem to you know, get too dark

33:42

but we've seen some suicides and

33:45

people like this and stuff like

33:45

that, you know, like guest

33:48

suicides, depression so I mean

33:48

certain things like because what

33:52

happens is we are way off topic,

33:52

but that's fine. It's in his

33:55

pockets likes to go. But you get

33:55

to a point where you can see

33:59

people and they demand stuff and

33:59

like stress off He's like, Okay,

34:03

I gotta have this content, this

34:03

content and this content by this

34:06

day, and it literally does

34:06

become a job. You had to do it.

34:09

You lose the fun in it and you

34:09

start to hate it.

34:13

Always gave me no longer

34:13

fun. Yeah. Good. Yeah. No longer

34:19

fun.

34:19

Go ahead. No, I do I try

34:19

to spit out so go ahead. Like

34:24

Yeah,

34:25

I love that you hit on that

34:25

point. The biggest thing it's no

34:28

longer fun. Yeah, video games

34:28

are supposed to be fun. They're

34:31

a hobby. You know even in like

34:31

competitive scenes. It's still

34:34

fun. It's like playing a sport

34:34

competition competition.

34:38

Repeating god I can't spit it

34:38

out. Competing is fun like yeah,

34:42

should be fun like all this you

34:42

know the demand that people have

34:45

you know stream eight hours a

34:45

night 10 hours a day. Videos

34:49

three times a week. I like bitch

34:49

I'm looking at a lot of videos

34:52

out in a year yeah, that's a lot that's

34:55

like depression like in

34:55

like suit. It's no Joe is no Joe

34:59

Joe and these people Like you

34:59

can understand like that's a lot

35:01

on their plate. So don't think

35:01

it's all fun games with that

35:04

stuff, people.

35:05

And one thing I do like about

35:07

Xbox, we went dark there

35:07

for a little while man

35:11

is Xbox network one thing

35:11

that I do like to see them

35:14

getting a sub word back off

35:14

topic we've ever gone on Yes,

35:20

that was an interesting segue

35:20

there but no it was sure though

35:23

it is true is it really is and

35:23

so much of it has to do with the

35:27

online so it is related, like

35:27

just the online atmosphere has

35:30

changed everything but you know,

35:30

at least one thing I liked that

35:34

they are doing is for if you

35:34

want to play a free to play game

35:38

like fortnight, of course being

35:38

the biggest example in the

35:41

fucking world right now. Like if

35:41

you wanted to play fortnight

35:43

with your friends on Xbox, you

35:43

had to have an Xbox Live

35:46

subscription goal scription you

35:46

had to pay and what they are

35:50

it's in beta right now and

35:50

hopefully rolling out in the

35:53

next couple months. They are

35:53

doing away with that requirement

35:56

that if you want to play a game

35:56

that is free you like fortnight

35:59

Path of Exile, you know, Path of

35:59

Exile is you know, these big

36:01

Free to Play Games, you no

36:01

longer have to pay for Live Gold

36:06

to get to play those games. I

36:06

think that's a great thing. Yes,

36:09

if you have to pay for a

36:09

subscription to play it. It's no

36:11

longer free to play. And you know, in

36:13

today's day and age, you

36:13

should not have to pay to play

36:16

online. Like that's just not a

36:16

model like a Yeah, still works

36:19

because they're making you had

36:19

to do it. But we're to that

36:21

point now technology where these

36:21

people want to play online, they

36:24

should be able to do it for free.

36:26

Right. And that's what

36:26

especially is it for free to

36:28

play games like you don't even

36:28

pay for the game, but Microsoft

36:31

is making you pay for the online

36:31

service. So at least Nintendo

36:35

and PlayStation were a little

36:35

bit ahead of the curve there

36:37

where they're like, Okay, if

36:37

it's a free to play game, of

36:39

course fortnight being like I said, fortnight being the biggest one right now and

36:41

everyone fucking loves

36:43

fortnight. It's not our forte,

36:43

but yeah, most people love

36:46

fortnight. And you know, so good

36:46

for Microsoft for finally coming

36:50

around and saying, Okay, if you

36:50

want to play fucking fortnight,

36:53

you don't have to have Xbox Live

36:53

Gold anymore.

36:56

Who? Yeah,

36:57

that was a topic.

36:58

Yeah, we went all over the place on that one.

37:01

We're gonna stick with Xbox

37:01

for just a little bit longer. I

37:03

know. We've talked quite a little bit about it. I don't think this will be much of a

37:05

topic. I hope not. But they did

37:08

announce they're coming out with

37:08

a couple of new colors for their

37:10

Xbox series x and series as

37:10

controllers. And first and

37:14

foremost, I'm always a fan of

37:14

new new colors for controllers.

37:18

It gives people options, but

37:18

yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure

37:20

if you've seen the pictures.

37:20

They're coming out with like a

37:22

neon yellow called electric

37:22

volt. And yeah, in a Red cammo

37:27

mix called de strike cammo to

37:27

either these look like a kind of

37:31

controller you would want to go out and buy

37:33

I love neon stuff. The

37:33

electric boat looks fucking

37:37

terrible Dude, I saw that I was

37:37

like, Oh my God does hideous now

37:40

the the rape kit came out. That

37:40

one does actually look kind of

37:44

cool. But I don't really

37:44

understand the point this

37:47

because there's so many like

37:47

skins. And there's other

37:49

companies that create like,

37:49

whether it be like plastic

37:51

covers, I don't know exactly how

37:51

it works, because I never bought

37:54

any of them. But I know that you

37:54

can basically buy a skin or some

37:58

type of artistic covering for

37:58

almost anything out there.

38:01

Whether it be the console, the

38:01

controllers, whatever. So for x

38:05

Xbox to do this, like Okay,

38:05

cool. I guess it's like an

38:08

official thing like that. But

38:08

yeah, I mean, it's kind of like

38:11

what's the point like, you know,

38:11

like, people probably already

38:14

got this from somewhere else

38:14

that they really wanted it now.

38:17

Yeah, Microsoft making is

38:17

probably a little better. I

38:20

guess. Like you don't actually

38:20

have a skin because you only put

38:22

those skins on there sometimes

38:22

like it has the whole bubble

38:24

thing and stuff like that. You

38:24

don't give them exactly the way

38:27

you want them to or something

38:27

like that. If there's like a

38:29

cover or something like that,

38:29

that you know it makes it a

38:32

little bit bulkier I guess the

38:32

cool thing here is Xbox is doing

38:35

it so it's actually going to be

38:35

just the controller so that part

38:39

of it is kind of nice it

38:39

probably will look better

38:42

because of that reason but um

38:42

Yeah, yeah, I'm just so so the

38:45

electric volt as no I like neon

38:45

style, but that one was just not

38:49

my cup of tea. The Red came came

38:49

out I don't know why once a

38:52

cameo. I guess I'm thinking

38:52

about what's his name Keanu

38:55

Reeves in cyberpunk making a

38:55

cameo and how fucking awesome he

38:58

was we talked about last episode

38:58

go check that one out.

39:01

Go check it out. It was a good No,

39:03

I'm a fan of blue. So I

39:03

would love to see that blue camo

39:06

like you know color on there so

39:06

that's what I was gonna say

39:11

texture. I was like chemo is

39:11

really not texture like exactly

39:16

what you classify chemo as so

39:16

I'm just gonna say right now

39:19

it's a color but me now I'm not

39:19

really that excited about it. I

39:23

usually don't buy more than one

39:23

controller I had to buy more

39:26

than one controller this time

39:26

because I was having a sick

39:29

issues with my first controller

39:29

thank god that's not an issue

39:32

anymore so happy about that just

39:32

fix the sync issues in the new

39:36

controllers that I need from

39:36

your Xbox but what's your

39:40

opinion on this?

39:41

I'm not a big fan of like

39:41

skins or different colored

39:45

controllers to begin with. And

39:45

you know I look at like the joy

39:48

cons from Nintendo that some of

39:48

those colors have been wildly

39:52

popular like yeah, people are

39:52

loving like the Mario one some

39:55

of the like the best buy

39:55

exclusive. I think like the neon

39:58

green was a really pop just

39:58

default red and blue were really

40:02

popular but they weren't i still

40:02

like the generic

40:06

man before i original i'm

40:06

an original guy

40:09

originally yes like i love

40:09

the black xbox series x

40:12

controller i love the black

40:12

nintendo pro controller i switch

40:15

pro controller i love the black

40:15

playstation controller well i

40:18

guess the duel since now is

40:18

white but i haven't done it yet

40:21

so

40:21

i don't know

40:22

but it is but to me i'm

40:22

very much like a just i don't

40:28

need something that flashy just

40:28

say yeah and some of the skins

40:32

that that could

40:32

be are aged though like

40:32

would be the same way in our

40:35

early 20s you

40:36

know yeah we're not we're

40:36

not you know we're not kids or

40:39

teenagers anymore that's for

40:39

sure but you know there are some

40:43

really fun skins out there and

40:43

we've seen yeah especially you

40:45

know us being zelda guys originally the

40:47

united skins those are

40:47

beautiful man

40:50

i don't know that red that

40:50

red is pretty shitty and but no

40:54

i mean we've seen some beautiful

40:54

like zelda skins over for not

40:58

just for controllers like you

40:58

said the systems the consoles

41:01

like because in some of them

41:01

look really cool and i agree

41:05

that coming straight from

41:05

microsoft it's probably going to

41:07

look even better plus if it's

41:07

like you know you don't lose the

41:11

texture if it's like a plastic

41:11

cover you have to put on instead

41:15

of instead of

41:16

you know a stick or those

41:16

bumps on the back that's

41:18

important to you like if you had

41:18

a skin or a cover it would

41:21

probably take away those bumps

41:21

which i think is one of the best

41:23

features on the xbox controller

41:26

right absolutely i'm a huge

41:26

fan of those as well and i'm

41:29

completely with you neither of

41:29

these particular colors the

41:32

electric volts or the day strike

41:32

cammo really looked all that

41:36

interesting to me i'm i'm not a

41:36

cammo person just in general i

41:40

grew i grew up in southern

41:40

indiana i've been around

41:42

camouflage too much in my

41:42

fucking life and i'm happy to

41:46

get away

41:47

yeah i don't mind like the

41:47

design of it's okay but it's not

41:51

something that i've really ever

41:51

worn i don't know if i've ever

41:53

worn cable to be honest with you

41:53

i've always made my wife always

41:56

wanted me to get chemo like

41:56

shorts like the khaki shorts or

41:59

whatever it was a bio malware on

41:59

but other than that i'd never i

42:03

never really got to the whole

42:03

hunting thing or anything like

42:06

that so i am with you but i

42:06

don't mind the design like you

42:09

know it looks okay but um you

42:09

know we can't go that we talked

42:12

about nintendo we talked about

42:12

xbox we cannot go the whole

42:16

podcast without talking about

42:16

sony and playstation because

42:19

right now i am a playstation guy

42:19

but damn i love like i said last

42:23

podcast episode xbox is not too

42:23

far behind but right now

42:28

playstation guy loves my ps 500

42:28

thanks so sadly i don't know why

42:32

so excited about that because

42:32

we're actually not going to talk

42:35

about ps five we're going to

42:35

talk about ghost of tsushima and

42:39

the ghost of tsushima movie that

42:39

is in development now may i you

42:43

know say your thing people

42:43

talked a lot about the witcher

42:46

like the netflix series and how

42:46

good it was yeah i watched it i

42:50

thought it was okay i didn't

42:50

think it was fantastic or

42:52

anything like that so i'm not

42:52

i'm sometimes a fan of these

42:56

like you know with like a video

42:56

game becomes a movie or a show

43:00

but there's so many times when

43:00

they don't do a really good job

43:04

at it so i want get your

43:04

opinions on this goes to

43:06

tsushima movie are you excited

43:06

about it

43:09

on the one hand i'm excited

43:09

just because the the director of

43:12

the john wick films is supposed

43:12

to be involved in it yeah i'm

43:16

gonna butcher his last name

43:16

chad's stahelski and i couldn't

43:19

be worse now but like i love the

43:19

john wick flicks all three of

43:23

them i thought there's action

43:23

pack the choreography is amazing

43:27

good store well decent stories

43:27

to them for just you know random

43:30

action flicks but the action is

43:30

so good in them and that's one

43:34

thing that i think would

43:34

translate well to go tsushima is

43:38

combat just because that katana

43:38

combat and like that yeah

43:41

samurai style i think we'd look

43:41

really beautiful with the right

43:46

director

43:47

is don't get tom cruise to

43:47

play the last thought that idea

43:52

oh is the dances with

43:52

wolves but in japan

43:55

yeah gosh

43:58

so i'm tentatively excited

43:58

like i think it would work

44:03

better as a tv series just

44:03

because go tsushima was such a

44:06

long game buggering had very

44:06

distinct like acts or sex cram

44:11

all that into a movie like

44:11

it's like it's a lot it's a lot

44:15

in it so i'm a little bit

44:15

worried about that aspect that

44:18

it's just gonna feel rushed or

44:18

they're gonna make it too long

44:21

but you know go tsushima is

44:21

obviously one of our favorite

44:23

games of 2020 it's one of yeah

44:23

it's just an amazing all around

44:28

game

44:28

yeah

44:28

in the right hands i hope

44:28

it can be done well is it

44:32

something that you'll rush out

44:32

to see are you gonna wait for

44:34

reviews

44:35

i can't remember last time

44:35

i actually went out saw star

44:38

wars movie but overall i don't

44:38

go out and watch movies that

44:41

often lobby that often a lot as

44:41

kids a lot i'm just not really a

44:46

big fan of going to the movies

44:46

like i don't like sit in a dark

44:49

for like two hours it's like i

44:50

can't help it either

44:51

yeah well yeah yeah kobe

44:51

has not helped on that front

44:54

either so i'm not a huge fan of

44:54

going to the movie so i think if

44:57

you were going to ask me in this

44:57

day now Yes, I would rather it

45:01

be a show or a movie that comes

45:01

straight to streaming like you

45:05

know, your HBO max stuff, right?

45:05

And all that stuff going on with

45:09

some

45:09

of that comes from Mortal

45:09

Kombat coming out soon on HBO,

45:12

watching that movies that

45:12

come straight to the streaming

45:15

services, like if they're going

45:15

to do movie, I want to kind of

45:17

be like that. And I think they

45:17

will do that, because I don't

45:20

feel like this is a box office

45:20

hit. Because if you're not

45:23

played the game, you're I mean,

45:23

the movie still can work if

45:26

you've not played the game,

45:26

right? But it's gonna be a lot

45:29

better if you played the game. And

45:31

I hate saying this, but you

45:31

know, I'm selling a, a Japanese

45:36

themed game to an American

45:36

audience will be Yeah, and it

45:40

should Yeah, and it shouldn't be

45:40

but that that is a reality, you

45:42

know,

45:43

movie like you know, you I

45:43

think with a game you can do it,

45:45

but I think a movie had

45:45

different media. So like, I

45:48

agree with you, like it's kind

45:48

of hard to sell that because one

45:51

thing I found cool it goes to

45:51

Tsushima is that I learned a

45:54

little bit about the samurai

45:54

culture like I didn't know any

45:57

of that before. And if you're

45:57

going into the like talking

45:59

about how it's hard to sell to

45:59

an American market, if you're

46:02

going into a movie not playing

46:02

this game, you don't know a lot

46:06

about the samurai history. So

46:06

that's gonna like right there

46:08

really thick I think how much

46:08

you might get into the movie not

46:12

saying those people wouldn't

46:12

like it. I'm just saying those

46:14

people probably aren't educated

46:14

on the culture as much as so

46:18

like you know, they might just

46:18

not be into it as you know other

46:21

places in the world and stuff

46:21

like that but i think i really

46:24

rather be a movie that came to

46:24

one of these streaming services

46:27

me Paramount plus because once

46:27

again this is how you fuckers

46:30

give me I got that for a stupid

46:30

Champions League game and now

46:34

senator oh yeah case on week I

46:34

forgot so now that Paramount

46:37

plus so please please breed the

46:37

Paramount plus I can have a

46:40

reason because I have fucking 20

46:40

of them. And I got that on top

46:46

of cable. Like I don't I guess

46:46

you know my problem is I like

46:49

having options like do I use it?

46:49

No, but I like having the option

46:53

if something ever did come on. I

46:53

do have access to it so I want

46:58

these days I gotta go back I got

46:58

cancel all these streaming

47:00

services man because I just got

47:00

too many but um Well

47:02

God knows Man United ain't playing in the Champions League right now so I don't know why

47:04

he's still a pyramid. Yeah,

47:06

whatever.

47:08

I try to get bunny to

47:08

soccer he's like oh and watch

47:10

the main city game so that's why

47:10

God I was like I say what domain

47:15

topic peacock the NBC one that

47:15

you had to get for the Premier

47:18

League? That's actually one of

47:18

the best streaming services they

47:21

have got conned into buying so

47:21

we'll see. We'll see about

47:24

Paramount plus does they got

47:24

like a movie so but

47:27

I got picked up WWE Network

47:27

t so that's actually converted

47:32

over to peacock I had to because

47:32

I nice nice but goshima Do you

47:36

have anything else you want to say on it?

47:37

No, I'll probably see it if

47:37

it reviews well if it reviews

47:40

like shit I'll skip it. Yeah.

47:42

So next week that's that's

47:42

kind of all we got to talk about

47:44

yesterday. Next week right I

47:44

don't think I'm quite ready to

47:47

get back to another game this

47:47

early those those galaxy games

47:51

they really did number on me so

47:51

let's see next episode because

47:53

we were joking guys say yes, a

47:53

48 let's just talk the gaming

47:59

industry again and then we'll go

47:59

ahead and set ourselves up for

48:02

Episode 49 in Episode 49 we will

48:02

talk about cyberpunk 2077 so but

48:08

like I said next episode gaming

48:08

industry again but let's go

48:11

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