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today. As
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I step up to the microphone
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it's a hot summer day in
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London. I suspect if you're listen
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to this immediately it goes out
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such a the winter so it
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is a i'm enjoying lovely whether
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sin do V has already been
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on the show once that was
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over Zoom she was so good
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She made such a great impression
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that I want to talk to
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her again. So in August she
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came into. The of Oxford Studio
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in Fulham and we caught up. You
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know sin do from her stand up
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that appeared on stuff like Care Live
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at the Apollo should Be Not mock
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that week, Let It Die and then
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she's moved seamlessly across into acting. You
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might have seen her in A Sex
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Education She's in the second season of
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that, she was in a Rose My
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to fails Star struck and the thing
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that I noticed her most in was
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the the big screen adaptation of The
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And Matilda musical in. The course of
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our conversation we cover a million
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thing the say: You'll notice towards
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the end that my research wasn't
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as strong as it could have
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been because she's very much given
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the impression in this interview that
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the acting is in such a
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big deal. And then she told
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me all the stuff she'd shot
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that hasn't come out yet. Ladies
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gentlemen, everybody settle down. Enjoy Right
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And and sind do V. Cinder
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V is my guest. I'm a
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standup comedian to I have to
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say comedienne dressing A median? What?
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What? Settle people, Just say keep it all
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Gender neutral. Or right stand up comedian is
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an actor and up comedian. Actor:
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Mother former Korea woman.
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Basically very impressive package.
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as not in the
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seventies sense of package
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package. In that sense,
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it should be noted:
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oh, you're very. Impressive back
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as in general hello. Look. At
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me Since you can say that I am
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I gonna say that she said it's a
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i can endorse that message Sankyo. And
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and the second timer on this
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podcast first time during the war
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was a call pandemic of her.
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but now that soul behind this
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we won't see. It's like again.
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I'm and C Serum Plus. I
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is great to be. Here is lovely. I
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loved talking to you because you a
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lot to say. You've a fascinating background.
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If you want the background, go to
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the other interview. It's
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Summer of Twenty three. What does that
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mean? This in Do V. And
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taking the summer off technically work
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wise. As and I'm only doing the things I really
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want. So hello. Brighton. And
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I'm. And that's wonderful. I
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I ah, I'm someone who likes to
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work. I I love it, I love
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it. And forty this is not work
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for me. What I do it said.
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It's that it'll the people that you hear about
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their like may pass and is my job he
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has. I'm that guy at the moment. I don't
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say things like that but I I am aware
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that I have. A great guess that has
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been given to us by. And
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I'm of the powers that be out there. It's
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a term. My friend and I have sport
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to supreme powers of the universe. and since
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he were teenagers would say we're going
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to ask spoon do and I think
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supreme. Part of the Universe have given me a
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career. That's also something I love to do,
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so when I say I'm taking time off,
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I'm stopping myself. From working a lot
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Many people's. Accounts. And
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by my body's account my buddies that
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that like pit stop or cyclists around
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you can still be weird if you
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said the phrase pit stop it's not
5:05
avail rob phrase I think that he
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was alive not said it was actually
5:10
a third of the size of raised
5:12
the spectre that that he slipped out
5:14
between my lips. I'm not say no
5:16
not yet and I say the word
5:18
bits it's to do with dogs are
5:20
fund grooming are high and training like
5:22
the real term term. Day yeah
5:24
and that's perfectly legitimate and if anybody
5:27
would to challenge me if I were
5:29
trying to. Talk about a female dog.
5:31
I'd die. Why wouldn't I wouldn't stand for it?
5:34
I agree. I agree. Which.
5:37
I think. Actually, I think it's important
5:39
to know that that's. Like
5:41
when people talk to their kids. They'll.
5:44
Say, girl, dog and I want to say, but to
5:46
see bits that like know, but than that, learn the
5:48
word business that none of that is that's. One where
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did it sets the word. And.
5:53
Any where where where we las something some off,
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I I think some be I think some people
5:57
would say I was working too much but also.
6:00
Enjoy working as a way of. Suppressing.
6:03
Feelings. I
6:05
just do a means a suspect and so
6:07
and I've had a lot of feelings of
6:09
had a lot of loss my parents and
6:11
my in in my family to back to
6:14
back back to back and the just not
6:16
wanted to but he seal any ceilings about
6:18
that. I just wanna get on. When
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when did this happen? It's Sam.
6:24
A. Splendid.
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Also much you can't remember. It and the play.
6:29
Nineteen and then twenty. Twenty.
6:31
One. And then Twenty twenty. Two Oh no, you're one
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by one of the pups at. Not that I had
6:36
three parents, but other people. In. The family and I
6:38
don't often talk about it, but I'm getting to a
6:40
place now I can say is where I can say
6:42
I like to. Suppress. Feals The
6:44
word hell seats. No No. But.
6:47
I. So I mean I smoked for
6:49
years. That wasn't healthy, but it was
6:51
great. We sinking the list talks about
6:53
smoking for money because you see, I'm
6:55
A. I've never smoked whole, earning, never
6:57
lot. I've never seen the appeal because
7:00
we know it's bad for us. We
7:02
know is anti social. all these things.
7:04
But know it wasn't any of those things when I
7:06
started my dentist used to smoke and I was a
7:08
kid and be doing my teacher. Know he had
7:10
an ashtray a kid the first of all, Second
7:12
of all, As. A teenager. In
7:15
the. A late
7:17
eighties it was not anti social. It was
7:19
the cool thing to do if you've
7:21
got smoke billowing out for everyone smoked
7:23
drop at that time. Okay, I wouldn't.
7:25
My social circle I get where you
7:27
stand on beeping. I. Leave Now I have
7:29
of my vapor how. They are, you wonder? Okay,
7:32
now I'm I'm an outsider to the
7:34
world as a thing, and smoking by
7:36
the sounds I disapprove. Oh, entirely so
7:38
does my husband. Good I'm with your
7:40
husband. Tell me, are you are It
7:42
seems to me there's two types of
7:44
vapors, the ones that walk around like
7:46
this. Crisis
7:48
and very little stuff comes
7:51
out and then those. It's
7:53
as if they've got some
7:55
kind of nuclear cooling plans
7:57
and they take the little
7:59
sup and enough vapor for
8:01
a Siegfried and Roy extravaganza.
8:03
Oh my gosh, come out,
8:05
Which are you. Like.
8:08
Got them boot. Cool. From home we
8:10
have Buddhism I take the middle pass on case
8:12
when i have a jewel which is of a
8:14
small thing was at in the kids have a
8:16
lot of. I. Don't they? All
8:19
the time but when i v it's use
8:21
accent working or writing. Is
8:24
not that much a Siegfried and.
8:27
Who was it Succeed and Royce because I
8:29
can see when I'm tapings. but it's also
8:31
I don't suddenly in a corner and they
8:33
i don't have little corner do anything fun
8:36
doing it I'm doing it. I
8:38
sneak sleeping around like I liked of eight and
8:40
places like you're not allowed to have a pure
8:43
and simple you can't do anything. Isis is
8:45
strange because outside I notice we use the
8:47
studio lot and I notice on the way
8:49
in today as I said buzzing and to
8:51
do with a my id and and are
8:53
trying to get a utility bills so they
8:55
let me in a i notice for the
8:57
first time this know these smoking or safe
8:59
being on the premises. And I thought on the
9:02
premises, what what does that mean? Which premise. I think
9:04
we know what it means. It means the building. Of his insides.
9:06
I still like. At were going to be
9:08
your defense. I didn't know what. Supremacy Snowman
9:10
premises. Makes it feel like it's the premises. Now that
9:12
gonna stand out here are. Some
9:15
that and the premises know, but listen,
9:17
I'm a lifelong. Smoker who's quit
9:19
smoking. Ah, I'm
9:21
only do it if I'm very distressed, but. It's only
9:23
for a few days and then I V P. I
9:26
have a nicotine addicts and what you owe me to say
9:28
I'm. Sorry. Sir.
9:30
But I mean I to. Nicorette deny the
9:32
know I I used to smoke and
9:35
to Nicorette. At the Psych none. Why
9:37
don't you serious? Yeah, Because you couldn't smoke
9:39
inside. Or somebody like. Ah,
9:41
And so to Nicorette. I'd never smoked and
9:43
my children were young. Because.
9:46
While I was always with them and I'd. I.
9:48
Don't think smoking on kids is. Cool. I think
9:50
that the I I think we're all the an
9:52
agreement on that the you say it as though
9:54
it's just a good to of. I think we
9:57
know I think as a society we're all agreed.
9:59
Yes, but I think. That is worse if you
10:01
said to me. Issues that was younger
10:03
I would guess that was. You know what to do around?
10:05
Your kids like been a terrible mood or be
10:07
mean to them so she smoked. Yeah but
10:09
if you can avoid it does. on to
10:11
it's and I didn't So here we are. I
10:14
vapor little bit I to Nicorette a little
10:16
bit. Zebra.
10:18
To see reports of leaping is terrible
10:20
for hims thing that smoking is bad
10:22
for you. yes. And that leaping apparently
10:24
leaves a film. On. Your lungs or
10:26
something. I'm like oh god yeah whenever he.
10:28
I won't take last thing and I may
10:31
have simply trying to quit everything. Also, you
10:33
should remind you constant because you sound unapologetic
10:35
as if putting would be the last things
10:37
into the wanted to do know. I think
10:40
it's because I know that it's bad for you some
10:42
like man as you can stop this that regrets in
10:44
the and So I come up with little ploys that
10:46
sale. By. Glad he was already
10:48
a place where the I give. My they to my
10:50
husband had don't give it to me and then I'm
10:52
so crazy. He's like to take the fucking they are
10:54
you. You're in. And literally you're packing your bags
10:57
to get a divorce is take the vapor
10:59
my pockets but I think never give up.
11:03
That's what I said. You'll be walking down
11:05
the street, the somebody in front of you
11:08
doing one of those vapours that does lead
11:10
to the industrial levels of paper. Your reaction
11:12
to that. I think well I
11:14
hope when they're ready to quit, they do. The.
11:17
I don't understand how that person
11:19
can't think. This is not very
11:21
nice for the people around me.
11:24
A Deal I you're not an addictive. Personality?
11:26
I you know. yeah okay said that other
11:28
thing that other and u. S ah
11:30
my, but it's not enough time. I think it's a
11:32
sin under. A and see and that's
11:34
a good addiction of other my husband's addicted
11:37
to exercise is in which I'm like, that's
11:39
that's still call it an addiction. Your
11:41
you like exercise now more than you like
11:43
when I know my jaw i don't have
11:45
an addictive personality is easy for me to
11:48
take this. Is easy. I don't think
11:50
access to stand. But. That's life like
11:52
you like. you're like, wait, it's so bad for
11:54
you. Why do you do it in a psych? I know,
11:56
but I can help it. All
11:59
right, Okay, This husband
12:01
I'm a heat to beat what
12:03
people should know when they probably
12:05
know if they knew anything about
12:07
you Don't know that you come
12:09
from a background of business finance,
12:11
finance guess right stuff, which is
12:13
unusual in the world of comedy.
12:16
Very okay. and then you got
12:18
into relatively later in life than
12:20
a lot of people in to
12:22
comedy, and now you've gone. Not
12:25
become a fascist. You're
12:28
not. You're not giving salutes that you shouldn't. My kids
12:30
think of my hands on. Right
12:32
well into the Stratosphere, right?
12:34
Thank you! Super busy, super
12:36
in demand. How
12:39
is your husband who is
12:41
also in Sinai Nancy still
12:43
in that world? Different worlds.
12:46
How is he responded? On.
12:51
He's been very happy for me because
12:53
I think he's he's very good friend
12:55
of mine is by one of my
12:57
best friends, so he understands. They.
13:00
Organic nature of what has
13:02
gone. On with me and stand up
13:04
and so on. So is very happy for
13:06
me because ah. Because
13:09
he knows that this is it. Somehow doing
13:11
this makes me. A
13:13
complete. And I
13:15
think it's been very important to have
13:17
been doing this. In. Those
13:19
years when I say so that of last
13:21
year because I think if I was not
13:24
if I didn't have this thing which is
13:26
kind of a grounding for me in terms
13:28
of. Meaning. I think
13:30
I would have been. Very ah oh if
13:32
but have been much harder. Because
13:35
I would have just looked at my family and said now
13:37
you guys have to give me meaning and that's never fair
13:39
and also have teenagers. They're like fuck off with
13:41
the meaning. We're going to dwell on shit
13:43
like at my age, that lobby latest, what
13:45
age? They they hated if I
13:48
talk about them specifically. Someone to be
13:50
very broad to are older teenagers.
13:53
And one is a new and. Treatment and to
13:55
ten his of as soon as teens
13:57
of it but their lights. Because
14:00
the older they're like, you didn't take our consent
14:02
the my. I don't know you're seated. they. Don't
14:04
like it and I'm like okay was so
14:06
I say I'll be general. Okay, okay
14:08
and so I'm very. Very general,
14:10
but that's so My husband is very
14:13
happy. for me, he's extremely busy so
14:15
really what it comes down to is
14:17
how we manage the household. With
14:19
if. I'm away on tour and he has to
14:21
travel a lot. But you know, We.
14:24
Make it work because neither was is gonna stop what
14:26
we like to do. And
14:28
I think it's also. Are
14:30
you married? How long have
14:33
you been married since two? Well this
14:35
is the second. Since.
14:38
Two thousand and Six. Seventeen
14:41
years now. And seniors. The point
14:43
is, you can you get to a
14:45
place in your marriage where it's less
14:47
about. The. Two of us
14:49
together. But. More. Who
14:52
are the two. Of us separately. And what does
14:54
that mean when we're together? Because.
14:56
Your kids grow up. You know it's
14:58
not always. Marriages,
15:00
Change over time and soon the kids are on
15:02
the way. They're all you know. There are pretty
15:05
much on the way of being who they're gonna
15:07
be and then it's like, well for the two
15:09
people that are left. And. What
15:11
happens when they come together? What's going on
15:13
with them? My of my belief is that
15:15
the. More. Settled. You
15:17
are in yourself doing what you love. Then.
15:20
You know, just like a better friend, you're better.
15:22
Partner and I think that's working touch
15:24
wood. Well love
15:27
never ends. Not. That you don't love,
15:29
never ends and selves. I don't think and
15:31
will say this. For the record, I don't
15:33
think I could have imagined a more. Supportive
15:36
spouse. If one day
15:38
in my mind have been to the oil what if
15:40
I became a stand up and suddenly had to go
15:43
here is was leaving every night and was digging and
15:45
was talking with all these things on stage. it's foods.
15:47
who could I come up with. Even
15:49
what I would have imagined would have been some
15:51
one. Ah, Less
15:54
excellent at being a support. than
15:56
what my husband is for sure and
15:58
how does he get on with
16:00
your new Tani folk
16:02
friends. God. You
16:06
know, we, our work is
16:09
so different in terms of
16:11
everything, but also timing. He's not going to come to
16:13
gigs, because someone's got to be at home with the
16:15
kids. So he doesn't come to gigs. Very
16:18
often he's away. I mean, he's in Asia right
16:20
now. So what am I going to say to
16:22
him? Don't go to your job, come and be
16:24
with me here. But he must have, because
16:26
now you will have developed friendships
16:28
with with other
16:31
performers. So that becomes
16:33
your friendship circle. They must he must
16:35
cross over with them. He does. And,
16:37
you know, he's Danish. He's funny.
16:39
He's funny. He thinks he
16:42
when he comes to Edinburgh, he comes to shows. There's
16:46
no problem. The thing is, none of the
16:48
people that I might become very close
16:50
friends with through comedy or
16:52
my acting are ever going to be very close
16:55
friends of his. But that's fine. I
16:57
have a lot of my own close friends that anyway, I don't want him to
16:59
be close friends with. OK, because, you
17:01
know, when you have really close girlfriends, especially they
17:04
need to have enough distance from your spouse that you
17:06
can tell them all the worst things and they
17:08
don't have to meet him the next day. You
17:10
know what I mean? That's
17:13
a very knowing laugh. I'm
17:16
a very knowing man. There you go. And you know exactly
17:18
what I mean. You need to keep some distance. If
17:21
I've said it once, I've said it a different way.
17:33
Do you still play Edinburgh? Well,
17:37
I think there's all I
17:39
think I'm at the point where I can choose every
17:41
year if I'm going up or not. This year I
17:43
was taking the summer off. I said, no, last
17:46
year my father was just getting
17:48
unwell. So I went and I came back.
17:52
So, yeah, I mean, when, you know, we'll see where
17:54
I'm at next year. You're getting more and
17:56
more acting roles now, aren't you? I mean,
17:58
you know, they just seem to come one.
18:00
one after another, that must be very gratifying.
18:04
Because it's just opportunities. You know, when you
18:06
start out in this business, you're just wanting
18:08
opportunities and they're so hard to come by.
18:10
Yes. But when eventually those
18:12
doors start to open, it's
18:15
a lovely feeling. Yeah, I think when you're in
18:17
stand up, it's easier. You're not
18:19
waiting for the phone to ring. You can go to a club, you
18:21
can say, I want to try it. And then of course, there is
18:23
a trajectory, you know, you do you sign
18:25
up for open mic, and then you get five minutes. Once
18:28
you're in the circuit, you want
18:30
to get the very beginning of that
18:32
journey, though, I remember, I remember the
18:34
shock of trying to go to an
18:36
open mic thing and say, I just
18:38
want to come to an open mic.
18:40
Okay, you can come back a year
18:42
this September. I mean, slight exaggeration, but
18:44
not much. No, I couldn't believe it.
18:46
You're not serious. All
18:48
I want to do is just five minutes.
18:51
No, no. Yeah, no, no. I mean, there are
18:53
clubs like that. But thankfully, there were also clubs at
18:55
that time, there was one on Liverpool Street called Dirty
18:57
Dicks, where you could go and just
18:59
if you showed up at 530, and put
19:01
your name down, and in enough time, you got
19:03
a slot. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So I remember
19:06
doing homework with the children, and
19:08
then giving them their dinner, and then waiting for
19:10
the babysitter and literally legging it to
19:12
the tube. So I wouldn't miss the cutoff. I
19:15
remember that so clearly. Which year were
19:17
you starting to do that? 20, probably
19:19
2015. Had
19:23
the smoking ban come in by then? Oh, yeah,
19:25
big time. Right. See, when I started, oh, yeah,
19:27
because I'm older than you, I started
19:30
in the mid 90s. And
19:32
as we've established, I'm not a smoker, but
19:34
everyone must have been very intolerant.
19:37
Yeah. And I'd go to these clubs
19:40
from my fresh shared home life.
19:43
And I literally couldn't be in the club
19:46
waiting to go on, I'd have to find
19:48
a door and be outside because these places
19:50
would be like a Dickensian fog of smoke.
19:52
Yeah. And I would be doing things with
19:54
my voice in my act. So
19:57
I'd come on and I'd be like this.
20:02
Well, I love the Smokey Pub. I bet you
20:04
do. Yeah. I loved it. In fact,
20:06
I used to smoke. You could smoke in the smoking room on
20:08
the trading floor when I started. And
20:11
so I used to be, you would like do trades and
20:13
tell someone to watch your phone go dash over. And
20:16
in the smoking room was like, you couldn't see anything
20:18
because everyone would be in there just smoking and come
20:20
out. I remember my hair, my clothes, everything is just
20:22
a amount of cigarettes. It would sting. I used
20:24
to smoke easily 30 cigarettes
20:27
a day at that time. Sweet. No.
20:30
Do you ever use this? You still see now.
20:33
Well, you see the people stood outside
20:35
buildings, right? But I noticed at airports,
20:37
they still have smoking rooms.
20:40
The Geneva airport has one. No, no,
20:42
Europe and Asia often do. It
20:45
looks like some kind of scientific experiment.
20:47
Yeah. Yeah. Rich
20:50
of these people will die first.
20:52
They all started smoking in this
20:54
sealed room with a glass wall.
20:56
Look at that one in the corner. She
20:59
is but weeks from death. Whereas
21:01
this man, his lungs are doing very
21:03
well. I know it's crazy, especially for
21:05
Europeans because they're so healthy in some ways
21:07
and they're biking around and running and jogging.
21:10
And Denmark, you could smoke inside for
21:12
many years after you couldn't smoke inside
21:14
here. I remember that happily. I used to
21:16
go to Denmark then. Where in the world now is
21:18
it still allowed? I think
21:20
Japan. I think you can still
21:22
fly on Japanese flights. I don't know. Actually, don't
21:25
come for me. I'm not sure, but I knew you could for a
21:27
very long time. I remember
21:29
when I flew to the UK from
21:31
India to start university because I'd got
21:33
a scholarship to study here and
21:36
all of the friends were there were five.
21:38
There were nine of us who'd got scholarships
21:40
to come to the UK. They
21:43
were all trying to get British Airways. And
21:46
I wanted to fly Air France because you could smoke
21:48
in the back of the flight. And my parents were like,
21:50
why Air France? And I was like, it's a
21:52
cheaper ticket. I flew Air France to set
21:55
them back. Did they know you smoked?
21:57
No. Oh my God, they would have killed.
21:59
My mother would have killed me. That's a hell of a secret
22:01
to keep from them. Yeah, I would know because I didn't smoke
22:03
that much then, like one or two a day at university.
22:06
Oh, you were building up at that stage. You
22:08
weren't fully fledged. Yeah, but also, no. Well, I
22:10
probably could have smoked more had I not had
22:12
the fear of death. Mommy would
22:14
have killed me easily without even blinking. Your
22:17
mother was a very strong woman, wasn't she? Strict.
22:19
Strict. Is that the better word, better than strong?
22:21
Strict, yes. Give me some examples of this strictness,
22:23
which is so out of step with
22:26
parenting now. I
22:29
remember there was a boy in my, I was
22:31
in my final year of school. He
22:34
was expelled by then, so the year before, so
22:36
what's called Lower Sixth or the year before
22:38
you take A-levels. And
22:40
he had phoned me at home, and we had two phones
22:42
you could pick up upstairs. And he phoned
22:45
me. It was a very innocent conversation. He said, hi. He
22:47
was in my class. I knew him. He said, hi, how
22:49
are you, Baba? Would you like to go out for an
22:51
ice cream with me? Which in
22:53
those days in India was quite bold. And
22:58
I was like, well, Mommy will kill me because
23:00
she was like not having me meeting boys. I had
23:02
lots of guy friends and they were always over. But
23:05
this one-on-one ice cream, and she didn't like him because
23:07
she said he was a richy,
23:09
rich guy's son who was never going to come to
23:11
much. Blah, blah, blah. And lo and
23:13
behold, he was expelled. Yeah, yeah.
23:15
What was he expelled from? That's because he exploded a bomb
23:18
in one of the bathrooms. It wasn't like a big bomb. It did
23:20
just take off the door. I think any bomb
23:22
to me regardless of size is a
23:24
no-no. No, but I have daughters. And
23:26
if they were to say to me,
23:28
this is Martin. He,
23:32
oh, I should tell you, he let off a
23:34
bomb in the toilet. But it wasn't
23:36
like a bad, like, you know,
23:38
bombs, a bad thing to do on Diwali
23:40
in India. We have firecrackers and some of them
23:42
are called bombs. Oh, wait a minute. OK. No, and they don't
23:44
leave a hole and they're very unsafe. So
23:47
he just him and his friends got a bunch of them together. And there
23:49
was some other stuff in there. Well,
23:52
they kind of flew off the door of the
23:54
boy's bathroom, but he
23:56
wouldn't tell who else had done it. So They
23:58
said, we'll expel you. And He was a good guy. Yeah, I
24:00
had. I didn't know because he had.
24:02
He had character principles, schemes. A principles
24:04
Bama. Out on I've I've ever admired
24:07
him. He's a dear friend of mine. As still,
24:09
I don't have had ever admired him. I just
24:11
thought when you have something going for you, you
24:13
moron at issue themselves Anyway, so the. Year before
24:15
this series On the phone to you Said.
24:17
Canal an ice cream and I said none of this and I don't
24:19
know. I have to think about it and have to lie and go.
24:22
By. Didn't sell legislative know what mommy will say and
24:24
so he said i you know. It
24:26
doesn't matter if you don't listen to your parents, which
24:28
of course he. Thinks that both like okay. he
24:30
hung up. At that time my
24:32
father worked in the government so we had two
24:34
guards outside our door and they were caught the
24:36
line which came with the job and think that
24:39
my dad was special my mother came down the
24:41
stairs she asked me something about did and and
24:43
she said and by the way. If.
24:45
You do go for that. I scream
24:47
understand this you I will get married
24:50
to the gardeners brother. Another gardeners by
24:52
the had severe mental health problems and
24:54
lived in our in the back of.
24:56
Our house would talk to trees, eat. Grass
24:58
like he had problems so you always saw him
25:00
in your like this guy's not ok city him
25:03
she said i'm gonna marry you have to him
25:05
and as for that boy's. Gonna. Get
25:07
the two guards are gonna go find him and break
25:09
his legs and so many places he won't walk again.
25:11
So you decide if you want to have an ice
25:13
cream and she walked out of the room. As
25:16
like. I'm
25:18
she's not saying this in a humorous way.
25:20
None of. That of my mother. Never. She
25:22
never. I don't mind my mother of a
25:24
making a threat in carry out. She made
25:26
them. they rarely but cared. timeouts. That's one
25:28
example of her being very strict. Another example
25:31
of this was. We were in Hsbc
25:33
here. I had two children and. See.
25:35
Had. The she's got
25:37
some cash you want me to put in my bank account.
25:40
That. She had got to rak us something some
25:42
they say the out on a what it was
25:44
any with the she can't take us dollars back
25:47
to india baba anyway where they're i protect my
25:49
passport for some i didn't some Id stuff and
25:51
she says to me be careful with your passport
25:53
don't leave it down on like month I got
25:55
it or but it's to like it Easy for
25:57
you to see doj but it member when you
25:59
left. My when you left the and like
26:01
yeah yeah yeah I'll be fine I've got two
26:03
children rob I get there, I hand him the
26:05
thing sees yap yap giving me some shit like
26:07
mommy, come on com on and then he says
26:09
yes as fine as uk and I'm turning to
26:11
leave and as. My. Passport is this
26:14
to transmit as see left the password
26:16
give me a tight slap as used
26:18
to the and the Hsbc guide looked
26:20
at anywhere else and she said my
26:22
you're going to call police on me
26:24
I don't get she is adult. And.
26:26
He got so scared he backed off of the
26:28
glass. I was like my you're scaring the Hsbc
26:30
guess she said you don't understand She's always for
26:32
getting her passport units. The guy was like please
26:35
leave a took my password I said are you
26:37
can be smacking me. Here. She
26:39
said but they'll put mean the do I will
26:41
go happy to do to because you're so stupid
26:43
it's like okay. How.
26:46
We were very good friends. Mommy in a. Pistol.
26:49
Funny. She's. So funny and is
26:51
a mean. She was very strict but
26:53
it was. You knew you
26:55
knew what the rules or it was that
26:57
she was Never aren't Welsh was of the
26:59
laboratory. Sometimes when she was never arbitrary you
27:02
always knew. I mean see, I knew it's I never
27:04
said yes to the boy. But the Us girls like
27:06
mom is gonna get really upset and your
27:08
what's your mothering your parenting style with your
27:10
kids. What's that been? Ah. Not
27:13
like mom because you can't really in the west
27:15
carry that off without going to jail and is
27:17
getting taken away. And I'm married to Scandinavian so
27:19
that's and something. But also. When.
27:21
You are a very. Strict parents. But
27:24
you're in the middle space of like your
27:26
kid went abroad and you know and I
27:28
went abroad and I became more liberal and
27:31
my ideas changed. My mother adapt it to
27:33
see and that was a really are and
27:35
that was a healing for us. as a
27:37
mother and daughter side tried to keep that
27:39
kind of stuff. with
27:41
my kids. Obviously. By
27:43
everyone's account, I'm. Too strict. But.
27:46
I know I'm not. One. Not
27:48
compared. Zero You use your your
27:50
kind of baseline is your mother?
27:53
Liberals the any to give children listen. Children
27:55
need to be resilient. Yeah, can't be raising
27:57
kids. I want that as my to have
27:59
like. Me: it's not about you. You gotta raise
28:01
kids that can go out in the world, get
28:04
slapped down and will get up again and this
28:06
be and you know they need to be resilient.
28:08
The can be. Like. My mom used
28:10
as a mom get on a bunny suit like you're
28:12
made of lack things get hot new gonna melt. So
28:15
I've tried to give that to the kids
28:18
cause you know the world is great and
28:20
fun but you gotta. Know
28:22
who you are in for that. You have to know what your
28:24
boundaries. Are and it's your Parents will give
28:26
you that you Doctor I'm and you
28:28
lost her. And in these last few
28:31
really, Nineteen Twenty Nineteen And in this
28:33
way that we should have become our
28:35
parents as we get older. Who are
28:37
you most becoming your mother Or your
28:39
father Who. I'm I'm probably
28:41
going to start being more like my
28:43
father now. Really? yeah it's my father
28:46
was the one who was sort of
28:48
more etti certain aspects of my father
28:50
which I think our about sort of
28:52
grounded in hindu ways of looking at
28:54
the world which I've always had but
28:56
I've never had to really think about
28:59
it cause he was always there site
29:01
you know. but but at the bumblebee
29:03
time sort of. It's
29:05
how how to lead a good
29:07
life. And. As that
29:09
is instructed, In sort of Hindus religious.
29:11
Last spiritual belief I think I'm at started
29:14
creeping up more and more because I don't.
29:16
You know you don't have to think about
29:18
things was you have someone there who does
29:20
does the thinking for you. So I think
29:22
that's gonna come. I think it's coming. The.
29:25
Kids make fun of me. They. Say oh
29:27
yeah Oh Hindle is a move that I say
29:29
things I'm like I think I'm becoming like my
29:31
bed to. That's what I used to think about
29:33
him. I said earlier. I.
29:35
Said love never ends and for people
29:37
watching this on you tube don't know
29:39
why I said it's people just listening.
29:41
they won't know. Pussy Sanyo T should
29:43
sit in. What? What? That rings a
29:45
bell. We set a musical. Is.
29:48
That from. Is. That from
29:50
fun to more something? What is that?
29:53
I don't know, I just I always leave if I
29:55
just states such As he said. That said something. I
29:57
agreed with. Yeah which. Is Love never And.
30:00
The isn't that from our Isn't
30:02
that from a musical. I
30:04
I'm I'm I'm the wrong That as got on. I.
30:06
Just the love. That I have one that says this.
30:08
I have another one. that almost word today. Not.
30:11
All the says Chitty Chitty Bang by know what
30:13
that means Know. It says here comes Love. She
30:15
comes loves and. Then I have another one that's
30:17
as true Love's. And. Because
30:20
I think am I am a big. Big
30:22
buyer of love. A I
30:24
thought the musical thing because of
30:26
your appearance in the Splendid Matilda
30:29
musical, which was a lovely saying,
30:31
wasn't. Anybody. I have to tell you, you
30:33
know you've done a lot my acting than me and that was
30:35
the first time I'd done. Something. That biggs
30:37
I really didn't understand our editing works or
30:39
anything, and it was doing lots of cool vid
30:42
side is on what was going. When.
30:44
I saw the movie else like this is incredible like
30:46
Daves and then someone said to me. It's called
30:48
production values their high as
30:51
the times As a society.
30:53
Says that an amazing job!
30:55
Yeah, you know Matthew is
30:57
a genius. Which and and also
30:59
great. Met a state supported mentor but
31:01
this is Matthew Will forces or I
31:03
did a play with him. Did you
31:05
find him to be the calmest person
31:07
you've you've ever met? When we did
31:09
the play he was sorry very credibly
31:11
com very. Com very soft spoken guess
31:13
which means when things were not working
31:16
there, you understood because you could actually.
31:18
Hear his voice but like I think
31:20
you know. But I'm and also Elisa
31:22
who was Matilda here with whom I had
31:24
all my scenes Issue: Is this a complete
31:26
and Sam because A I forgot my lines
31:28
in the beginning so so nervous she would
31:30
whisper them trees in your my lines Her
31:32
lines but also just great And it says
31:35
it's like a regular kid and one of
31:37
my kids her age so in the brakes
31:39
We were always playing rock paper scissors. Know
31:41
like a mother let you win and I
31:43
didn't. Because you can
31:45
cheat as adult that that and sheet. yeah.
31:47
How dude she's rock paper scissors Assist. you
31:49
with that split second two kids they don't get it
31:51
they go right for the thing you witnessed second then
31:53
you can say i did see the bit nuts or
31:56
i'm cheating since like this It
32:07
was a fantastic film. I always liked
32:09
the story, but I think this way
32:11
of watching it was
32:14
quite mesmerizing. I mean, Trunch Bowl was scary.
32:17
Kids were crying, which I think is how
32:19
Trunch Bowl should be. Yeah, absolutely. I loved
32:21
it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you
32:23
doing more of those? To what extent is that
32:25
when you're in something like that? Sometimes you'll
32:27
get a part in a big thing like
32:29
that and you'll think, oh, well, here we
32:31
go. And then time
32:33
and again, I've had many people and I've experienced
32:36
it, say, oh, but nothing really changed after that.
32:39
But how has it been for you? It's
32:42
a big thing to be in a film. What
32:44
that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
32:46
mean, prior to that, I'd done little cameos
32:49
in either, you know, in sitcoms that my
32:51
comedian friends had written a tiny,
32:53
like five second role in sex education.
32:57
So I just sort of understood it to be
32:59
something that builds. And then when this came along,
33:02
I think, I think this Rob, I
33:04
didn't really finish Matilda and say, oh, well, I guess
33:06
now I'm just going to act all the time. I
33:08
thought that was the anomaly. So
33:11
I finished Matilda and I did
33:13
my I could I had to change
33:15
my tour. Then
33:18
what to allow the filming? No,
33:21
because of lockdown. Oh, I see. So then was that. And
33:23
then as soon as we could tour, I got out and
33:25
toured. And at that time I was doing
33:27
another film, which I was like, oh,
33:30
OK, great. But then I was like, but I'm
33:32
going to go on tour. So in some ways,
33:34
I've been that kind of idiotic person who's like
33:36
not noticing what's really going on because I'm away
33:38
being like, but what about my nice thing?
33:40
Yeah, right. Now, I think out over
33:42
it. Looking back, I think
33:44
that's been great. So when
33:47
I did Matilda and, you know, the
33:50
other thing, I think then I started thinking,
33:52
oh, this is not something that's
33:55
This is something I have to think more about.
33:57
Also, I have to decide why I Enjoy this
33:59
because. Acting is to me,
34:01
it's It's much more nerve wracking than
34:04
stand up by far. Because.
34:06
Are. You gonna do stuff like learn words? And.
34:09
If you get them wrong, someone was a cop. Can we
34:11
go again? Wouldn't with me when I'm on stage. And
34:13
on I am. I could make it
34:15
all up. No one knows everybody on
34:17
on a lot of film sets you
34:20
get the feeling that everybody's of the
34:22
top of the game. All the crew
34:24
all the tech people is so good.
34:26
These and the it usually run so
34:28
smoothly and then he comes down to
34:30
and action and you're like our our
34:32
our i don't know my line that's
34:34
not cool so you gotta learn. Lines eve
34:36
that you know there's a lot more going on
34:38
with acting and also. Acting. As
34:40
like stand up a muscle and I'd
34:42
never exercised minutes essential I was into
34:44
school plays one in god spell I
34:46
was. A tree See I hear you
34:48
a very good s. And then another play.
34:51
i was one of the dancing girls are just
34:53
goes by and tesla and and just have passed
34:55
the state so yeah a but you know and
34:57
then I was like okay this is a muscle
34:59
I have to exercise at what does it mean
35:01
and so I started to think more about it
35:03
and I'm but what. About technique of new. Watch
35:05
yourself back in Mathilde, What's in the beginning
35:07
and I kept losing my right. And when
35:10
when you eventually managed to keep your eyes
35:12
open, what did you think to the. Isis.
35:16
Members as member I was so nervous and that
35:18
seen a member of thing so nervous and best
35:20
I could I can't I couldn't separate myself from
35:22
this is helps at all. I was like I've
35:24
never been nervous depths I couldn't see what other
35:27
people were seeing, eye dismember how I cells and
35:29
I was. Panicking. But what about your
35:31
actual performance? You watching the performance ago
35:33
and of those good old done too
35:35
much their oh. Yes, Now now because
35:37
I've acted in two other things to
35:40
and a half and so again, youths
35:42
someone needs practice now. and when I
35:44
was Mathilde I think or act totally
35:47
done that differently, had done that better,
35:49
but that has taken time and. have
35:52
you had experience yet of acting with
35:54
somebody who's very seasoned and very good
35:57
screen actor and they appear to be
35:59
doing Yeah,
36:02
I have. I am someone who
36:04
comes on and says, excuse me, I don't
36:07
know anything. Please feel free to direct me
36:09
and tell me what I'm wrong. And because
36:11
I am very much in student mode. And
36:13
so that means that I'm most often watching
36:15
people when I'm doing stuff to see, are
36:17
they going to tell me I'm very
36:19
focused on not fucking up my
36:22
language. So I think
36:24
in some ways, I'm not even really focusing on
36:26
anyone else. I'm just like, except in the scene,
36:28
which I know you is, you know, you have to
36:31
really give your scene
36:33
partner what they need. Everyone
36:35
is more experienced than me at the moment,
36:38
because I have been very lucky to get
36:40
parts with really accomplished actors. So
36:42
then I'm just, I'm like, Oh, by the way, if
36:44
I screw this up, please tell me because I don't know what I'm doing. And they're
36:46
like, fine. I had that it out. And
36:48
I always ask for help from the director. And
36:50
I think it's so wonderful to have directors who
36:52
want more like you say, can you please direct
36:55
me and say, that's what I want
36:57
to hear. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. And that's
36:59
been your experience so far that people are open
37:01
to that and receptive to that. Yes. And they've
37:03
also told me because they've understood quite quickly that
37:06
I'm very anxious. If we say it's
37:08
good, it's good. Then don't worry about it. And I just say,
37:10
okay, fine. Yeah, you know,
37:12
it, I haven't had, I mean, as
37:14
you go is how you practice and also the
37:16
intensity like when you're a standup and you go
37:18
to Edinburgh, it's like boot camp. You
37:20
know, I was doing six, seven gigs a day. And
37:22
then my show for 30 days with
37:25
acting. It's slower. Yeah. And
37:27
so totally different rhythm. And that's the thing
37:29
we talk about a lot on this podcast is
37:33
the different sort of disciplines because
37:36
when you are making a film or
37:38
a series, frankly,
37:40
just the hours and hours of nothing
37:42
of waiting, of waiting, but then when
37:44
the time comes, you've got to try
37:46
and be the best you can be
37:48
because that's what's going to be out
37:50
there. You would have started experiencing that
37:52
going a long way down the road
37:55
of your career. And it's, it's, it's,
37:58
it's, it's, I bang on a. about
38:00
it all the time because you
38:02
see actors sitting around and I've even seen,
38:04
I love succession, one of my favorite shows
38:06
and I saw some behind the scenes shots
38:09
of them all sat in some office area
38:11
for some office scene in between takes and
38:14
I just so recognized that they're on
38:16
their phones, they're probably bored out of
38:18
there waiting and waiting but at the
38:20
same time you've got to keep that
38:23
ability to be focused. Absolutely
38:25
and I think being exactly and
38:29
that's why it's been good to be around a
38:31
lot of actors who are both experienced and accomplished
38:33
because they'll give you those tips and
38:36
they'll say you're not getting paid for what you're acting and
38:38
paid for the waiting and you're like
38:40
oh so that's the level at which it is
38:43
and also they'll tell you things about how
38:46
to keep yourself in the right headspace. I think
38:48
one of the things I'm learning about acting is
38:50
it's unlike stand up for me, it's a
38:52
very interior process. You
38:55
make all these decisions, all this focus
38:58
interiorly including how you are feeling
39:00
as the character and then you
39:02
go do your job. With stand up it's very
39:04
exterior and first of all focus on everyone else in
39:06
the room. Why are you not laughing? Why did that joke
39:08
not land? You know what I mean? Are
39:10
you still doing that? Are you still spotting the ones that
39:13
are not enjoying it and focusing on them? I
39:15
think it's good to try and get past
39:17
that because it's not fair on
39:20
the bulk of the audience who are really enjoying
39:22
it. I used to
39:24
notice so and so over there and
39:26
they're not liking it. Now I am
39:29
a second thought because you're then characterizing
39:31
the whole room as that
39:33
person. It's not fair and all the people are loving it. Oh no, I talk
39:35
about it then with the whole room. I say you know
39:38
because often I'm like it's not that you don't
39:40
like this, this is funny, why are you not laughing?
39:42
Then I'll have a discussion with them and most people
39:44
are like I should have laughed because this is getting
39:46
to be about my mother, my father, my analysis. But
39:49
no, I do. But you're right, one
39:51
has to get past it and I still don't. But
39:54
stand up is very exterior. I
39:56
can be in any mood and I get on stage and
39:59
I know I'm going to be in any mood. exactly what's going on. But
40:01
in acting, I cannot be in
40:03
any mode because I have
40:06
to be focused when they say I have to
40:08
remember these lines, I have to also be that
40:10
character. And those things require
40:13
concentration, inner concentration.
40:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Energy
40:18
for that focus and concentration. That's why
40:20
I think it's a bit, you know,
40:22
when I get home from set,
40:25
and I've only done say 45 minutes of
40:27
acting, but I've been there all day, I
40:30
get home, I'm exhausted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas
40:32
I can go do an hour show and
40:34
come back and have so much adrenaline is
40:36
completely different. Because even without realizing
40:38
it, you'll be
40:41
in a slightly heightened state knowing you've
40:43
got to do it at
40:45
some point. I'd love to know people's reactions that
40:48
aren't in this world. They're throwing
40:50
things at their phone now
40:52
or whatever. They're like, what are they talking
40:54
about? This is utter nonsense. I know, I
40:56
know slightly. But when you experience it, you,
40:59
you know, you experience
41:01
you do it. Do you get heckles
41:04
and stuff? Do you get people who shout stuff out?
41:08
From time to time, it's, it
41:10
doesn't happen very often with me, because
41:12
I don't really have material that people
41:14
just listening because they all have mothers
41:16
or fathers or children or, you
41:18
know, whatever. Sometimes you'll get someone
41:20
who's extremely drunk. And
41:23
they make a terrible judgment call. And they
41:26
heckle me. And what happens is I often
41:28
then have to protect them from the
41:30
rest of the audience. Yeah, yeah.
41:32
Because, yeah, it's so
41:34
infrequent, that I don't feel
41:36
particularly bothered by it. But then
41:38
everyone starts getting upset, especially if they
41:41
say something about that's deemed to be
41:43
racist. Oh, then you're like,
41:45
that if you experience that once, once, once, that
41:47
was this woman was too drunk, I thought, Oh, man,
41:49
lady, you've made a mistake. And I felt so bad
41:51
for her. So I just spent the rest of time
41:53
making sure everyone ended up liking her. She was,
41:57
I was like, dude, you're too drunk.
41:59
Yeah. But but she
42:01
didn't she didn't call she
42:04
didn't say anything about the color of my skin
42:06
She said she called me. She
42:09
said oh, this is so rude fo
42:11
you Racist seaward
42:13
and I had just got on stage
42:15
and said, you know brexit. That's all
42:17
I said, you know brexit and she
42:19
said that point Sounds
42:23
like oh Sitting
42:25
in the front like 300 people. This is
42:27
the top of the show I'd be doing
42:29
another show you'd like the axe and I just got
42:31
out and I was like what I thought
42:33
she's having a stroke And it's gonna cost her I was
42:36
like, can I finish and she said
42:38
oh no, no, no, no, I thought oh great
42:41
Everyone lost it because everyone came to my defense and
42:43
how can you say that and see what I was
42:45
like Oh man, and I had to get these ten
42:47
minutes out cuz I'm trying to prepare for something I
42:49
had to do later And I was like, okay, we
42:52
need to corral this room, but she
42:54
was very drunk Yeah, when
42:56
they're drunk, it's kind of all bets are off And
42:59
I had one gentleman who waited until after this is
43:01
somewhere outside London I was on a boat and
43:03
he waited for me as I was leaving and when I was walking
43:05
out he accused me of Being
43:08
high caste from India and you think just
43:10
because you have servants I was like, who
43:12
are you talking to because I hadn't talked
43:14
about any of that stuff Yeah, and he
43:16
was not from India. Yeah from the
43:19
UK. He was Caucasian. I was like, what
43:21
is happening Wow He just
43:23
had a tirade and I was like what
43:25
what anyway, so yeah Otherwise, it's
43:27
just women who are drunk who say I love
43:29
you, my Paulo So the
43:31
acting then it seems to me it doesn't
43:35
mean as much to you as the stand-up
43:38
that still seems More I was
43:40
I was expecting you to say that you
43:42
really committed as the acting but it seems
43:44
to me That it's still
43:46
the stand-up is your is your bigger
43:48
thing. I think I've misrepresented
43:50
that I think I have more confidence in
43:53
my stand. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm more
43:55
different about the acting But that's changing but
43:57
I'm more different because I do still feel
43:59
like I haven't done it enough
44:01
to know why I haven't been fair. I'm
44:04
treating it a little bit like a kid who showed up
44:06
and I'm like, who's kid are you? It's my kid. Yeah,
44:08
yeah, yeah. But I gotta get, you know, I have to
44:10
do that. I think it's that and maybe there's some deeper
44:12
thing where I think, you know, I
44:14
think being dependent on acting is so
44:16
nerve wracking because you're always waiting for the phone call.
44:19
Oh, God, yeah. But maybe I don't want to think
44:21
of it like that. There's a great autonomy to stand
44:23
up. If you've developed an audience that are willing to
44:25
come and see you, it's a great feeling. It
44:27
is. It is. But there's something about acting
44:29
I really enjoy, which is still very mysterious
44:31
to me. And I think
44:33
it might be the real imagination of it
44:36
all because I'm never myself. Even
44:38
if I'm playing an Indian lady, it's not me.
44:41
Yeah. And you get to really be
44:43
in your head and imagine this
44:45
person and then somehow try and filter it
44:47
out through your face. That's
44:49
quite fascinating. Yeah, yeah. Well, I
44:52
think you should do more. Well,
44:54
I hope to. I hope to. No. And
44:56
for anyone who's listening, especially anyone who does
44:58
casting, Rob is wrong. I don't dislike
45:01
acting more than said. So you dislike it, I say.
45:03
It's just, I think I'm feeling my way. It wasn't
45:05
his biggest thing for you. Yeah. Well, I
45:07
don't know about that, but I do think
45:09
that it's something that I have less comfort
45:11
with. But I've just finished a few things
45:13
and all acting work. And I
45:15
always- Tell me what they are, what things. So
45:19
after Matilda, I did a film.
45:22
Well, first of all, I acted in my own, the
45:25
pilot of a script that we're writing, which
45:27
was non-TX
45:29
and it was great. It's called
45:31
Winning. And it's like my
45:34
stand-up life and my acting life came together. Yeah.
45:36
And I was very excited because I had some
45:38
great actors agreed to act on that. Who are
45:40
these great actors? So my husband was played
45:42
by the Danish actor Kim Bodhnya. Right. Do
45:44
you know him? I don't. I won't pretend that I
45:46
do. Do you know the- Did you watch the show
45:49
The Bridge? Yes. He was the
45:51
detective. Oh, all right. Fair enough. Yeah.
45:53
So him and I
45:57
think I can say this, Victoria Hamilton was
45:59
my nemesis. at work, on
46:01
the trading floor. It was great. That
46:03
was just a little thing we did, but I had all
46:05
these actors and that was pre-Matilda. So I was like, what
46:07
is acting? And they were like, we're going to show you.
46:11
And so that was fun. Then I did Matilda and then
46:13
I've got
46:15
a small but very fun role in a movie
46:17
called North Star. Oh, who's in
46:19
that now? Kristin Scott
46:21
Thomas and Cierra
46:24
Miller, Scarlett Johansson, Frida Pinto. Okay, that's
46:26
what's going on. I mean,
46:29
if we're judged by the
46:31
company we keep Cindu, we're
46:33
judging you very well.
46:35
That was great. That was super fun. I want
46:37
to take back what I said earlier about acting,
46:40
not being, although you used the word diffident.
46:42
I was. I am more diffident. Yeah, well,
46:45
I would ease back on the diffidence. Yeah,
46:47
I know. I would tone down the diffidence.
46:49
And just get into the confidence. Bring up
46:51
the enthusiasm and the confidence. Confidence. That's the
46:53
word. The confidence. Confidence, yeah. Oh,
46:56
so that side of things is all kind of.
46:58
Yeah, yeah. Okay, I
47:00
100% take back what I
47:02
said earlier. No, but it's also because I
47:04
have this kind of very, oh, you
47:06
know, acting is it, but it's building,
47:08
it's building and I do love it.
47:11
And yeah, and so there's that. And
47:13
then there's earlier this year I finished. She's
47:15
about to say another thing. Finished. Well, I
47:17
mean, I can keep it to myself. No, share it. I
47:20
finished filming a series for
47:23
Amazon. Yes. Which
47:25
series is this? It's called Pradeep's
47:27
of Pittsburgh. It's a very funny
47:30
show and it was, it'll be out
47:32
at some point. And
47:34
yeah, it's about an Indian family in the
47:36
current present day who go
47:39
to the US from India. Did
47:42
you film it over there? In Canada. I
47:44
totally want to take back my earlier comments.
47:47
I look like an absolute idiot. You
47:50
sit there being
47:52
diffident. Wow.
47:56
That was great. And that actually was so,
47:58
you know, it's a. It's
48:00
a series, it's eight episodes. We did
48:02
it in two and a half
48:04
months. The hours were long, but it was
48:06
like Edinburgh Boot Camp. Yeah. And you know, there's
48:09
big turnarounds. Yeah. I learned so
48:11
much. It was wild. And
48:14
also, I was very fascinated with the
48:16
DOP's work. Oh, right. So you're gonna
48:18
be directing next. Then you're gonna
48:21
be directing. No, director of photography is different.
48:23
Yeah, I know, but it's all, if you're
48:25
learning, that whole thing. Yeah, I love that. I
48:27
would run to Mitch, and he'd be like, you're on the next thing,
48:29
like, Mitch, Mitch, why did you put the thing there? And I
48:32
found that, but you can do that because you're
48:34
on set so long all day.
48:36
Yeah, if you have the discipline
48:38
and energy, because, yeah, it's
48:40
a world of opportunities to, and that's the sort of
48:43
thing they say about someone like Tom Cruise. He would
48:45
always be wanting to know what that guy's doing and
48:47
what she's doing. I'm gonna learn this. I'm gonna learn
48:49
about that in a moment. Because he's the ultimate example
48:51
of, you know, what's that helicopter pilot doing next thing?
48:54
You know, he's flying a helicopter. So yeah, there's all
48:56
these, you know, I said earlier, everybody's at the top
48:58
of their game on a set,
49:00
right? Yeah. And if you can't be
49:02
disciplined enough not
49:06
to be the sort of actor who just sits down and
49:08
looks at their phone, there's so much you can learn. Yeah,
49:11
I know, you know, I think it's also, I've
49:13
always, like, I, because I came to it, as
49:15
you know, I came to it sort of just
49:17
showed up. I was
49:20
always a consumer of TV and movies.
49:22
So now I'm like, oh, that's
49:24
not how that even happens. Now it's
49:26
like this, I'm very curious, but I'm
49:28
fascinated by the DOP because the feel,
49:31
the- Director of photography, I think Sindhu did
49:33
say, but for some of our listeners and
49:35
viewers may not know. Tell
49:37
us what the DOP does. The DOP
49:41
is the person that decides what kind
49:43
of lighting, where the camera sits, how
49:45
the shots will be shot. And the
49:47
reason that's important, do your listeners have
49:49
brightened and, is this, the
49:52
feel, how you feel when you watch a
49:54
show is not just the script and the
49:56
dialogue. It's the visual of it. So you
49:58
can have, for those- You've seen see
50:01
Matilda It's very bright and it's either
50:03
these bright colors and they're sort of.
50:06
A Happy and Then if you watch
50:08
a show like Ozark. Or
50:10
is he watches so. Of
50:13
course a couple of the name but as
50:15
a climb So and ah you kids television
50:18
which I can't remember what it will have.
50:20
no no it's very recent it sam. Is.
50:23
What a conman! It's. About
50:26
the six Commandments. It's
50:28
the number six. Oh, the thing about to
50:30
the horribly yeah, my life. What seems very
50:32
upset. very upset him as he spoke. Yeah,
50:34
exactly. It's yes. yes yes. And so when
50:37
you what's that doesn't it's kind of green
50:39
in a different when the zeal p helps
50:41
decide that and that really affects how you.
50:43
Feel. When you watch a show and because
50:46
else I'm writing a script. Course you would.
50:48
Lose it All comics are at some point trying to
50:50
write a script. I just think it's of a fascinating
50:52
thing that as a consumer of television and movies you
50:54
don't even think to think you're the director's. your the
50:57
Actors years. the script. But. Then there's
50:59
Mitch. The deal p Making it. Feel.
51:01
Like this as as and it with that
51:03
will. Once. Again, I want
51:05
to withdraw what I said earlier.
51:08
But. I don't think it's anything wrong. I think you just said
51:10
oh I think this is. Because I may may
51:12
I may play about how acting is an
51:14
important you. I then discover you been doing
51:16
it twenty four seven to the last two
51:19
years. Unbeknownst to me I thought Matilda was
51:21
of blips have. A
51:23
very nice for Matilda was the
51:25
start that he has. Tilda was
51:28
just the beginning. Seem to be
51:30
coming to screen near you soon.
51:35
I that makes it sound like I'm in the kind
51:37
of movies I actually haven't been in. but okay, It's
51:39
a a of times in a lot less only
51:41
a matter of time. Feel like I'm an ambiance
51:43
with a mama Things Me: are you gonna do Marvel
51:45
next And I'm like is that now the natural progression
51:47
that people think you're doing well in the movies you
51:50
can only been a mild. Make A film. Suddenly
51:52
there's a humongous so. That I see lead to
51:54
been a marvel movie as to not eat what you want
51:56
and stuff and. get movie buffs i don't view i
51:58
would you do a marshmallow the to… Would
52:01
you go on those diet? Not if it
52:03
involved being away for months on end, no. And they
52:05
often do. If it was a tiny little come in
52:07
and do it and go, yeah. But
52:09
what about… I should stress, they're not offering, so… No,
52:12
but would you do the food thing and the exercise
52:14
thing to get really buff? I don't get cast in
52:16
those sort of roles. No one's going to come to me
52:18
and say, but you've got to be buff. It's Marvel. Everyone's
52:21
buff. No, I would be the humorous friend of
52:23
the buff guy. Okay, fine. So you wouldn't have
52:25
to do the diving. I know my place. What
52:27
a pleasure. What a pleasure. Thanks
52:31
for coming here and talking
52:34
to us. And once again, acting
52:37
isn't taking a backseat. That's what we're
52:39
going to call this. Sindhuvi, acting is
52:41
in the front seat. Thank
52:44
you. If
52:46
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