"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others." ~Marianne Williamson

This conversation starts with Peter's take on the modern corporate world and how and why it is in need of change and in the midst of change. As he says, not merely rearranging chairs on the Titanic, but fundamental change.

And from there the conversation continues through the lens of his work and personal story of deep transformation into human and universal questions. Especially touching is his authenticity and vulnerability around the struggles and challenges he faced around the phenomenon of "not good enough" earlier in his outwardly super-successful career. I feel we all struggle with this in some way, that it's part of being human. Scarcity is the root of our challenges in fact. It's good to hear Peter's experiences with this. He never had issues with money externally which helps reveal that scarcity is an inner phenomenon, not an outer one. All-too-often we look for answers outside ourselves which cannot be found there, unfortunately. As Peter indicates, the outdated notion of success is at the root of many of our problems.

Peter reminds us that human transformation is incredibly possible for any of us and he even outlines an archetypal framework of 5 steps of how this happens. Many of us simply don't have references for how this can happen on an inner level because prevailing norms don't provide these indications. But fortunately that is being shaken up day by day.

I notice that many of my conversations deepen as they go. We get to know each other and feel each other in these conversations and we open up to each other and learn a lot. I am struck by the depth of the learning I am taking away through connection with my guests. I pray that it is the same for my audience. I hope something of the seeker in me represents something of the questions they too would like to ask. I also learn that the surface level differences and semantic differences of opinion matter less and less inside this space when we are talking about human values and motivations and behavior. Because we are united in this. I am grateful for the patience and warmth my guests exhibit and Peter certainly is no exception.

Peter offers precious insight about the possibilities of True Change and, as I said, even a step-by-step understanding of important milestones on the journey. I think anybody sitting in an office somewhere who is bored and tired could receive inspiration from Peter's story. Anybody outside an office too. Especially those who are tired of a one-size-fits-all definition of success and trying to answer the longing that rages in their hearts.

I want to comment further on the corporate aspect because of my personal relationship to it. Because I know many seekers inside and outside corporations have become disillusioned with their dominant role. My own take is that every sector of human endeavor and society itself is in the midst of major change right now. No matter where we stand in this, it's good to be knowledgeable about trends in areas of society which impact us all. As someone formerly corporate myself, and who has held onto some resentment towards that aspect of the world, Peter's words are like opening some curtains and letting in sunshine in a dark, dusty room of my past. I know others hold this kind of resentment as well and as Peter guides us that those beliefs doesn't serve us. It's ultimately human beings we are talking about. I remind myself to be careful here about the all-too-easy trap of othering and using enmity to project my own shadows.

Peter reminds me that it's great to recognize those of us looking to build a new paradigm. We can be so grateful for each one of us that is doing the challenging and rewarding work of stepping into our power--and are at service of a better world through the expression of our unique gifts and talents. In sanskrit, the exclamation for victory is Jai ho! (I named my external hard drive that incidentally.) As I re-listened to our conversation, I enjoyed it as much as the first time. Sometimes I can enjoy it in other ways even more. I felt gratitude all over again for Peter's generosity.

From my perspective, he brings the clarity, warmth and respect of someone who has faced and overcome many challenges.