In this conversation, Chief B interviews Assistant Chief Deputy Gina Hawkins about her extensive career in law enforcement and the challenges she has faced as a woman of color. They discuss the importance of representation, navigating different police backgrounds, and the need for collaboration and humility in leadership. Hawkins shares her experiences of advocating for herself and learning to adjust her approach to help others. The conversation highlights the value of diverse perspectives and the importance of supporting and mentoring the next generation of leaders. Gina V. Hawkins discusses the importance of organizations like NALI and NOLI in supporting women in law enforcement. She emphasizes the need for women to have a voice and be represented in leadership positions. Hawkins highlights the 30 by 30 initiative, which aims to have 30% of all police departments across the nation led by women by 2030. She also discusses the importance of mentorship, training opportunities, and building strong foundations within organizations. Hawkins encourages the audience to support and acknowledge women in law enforcement and to advocate for change.