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Welcome to another episode of The Big The Big Interview Podcast. I know what

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you want, I know what you think. You right know. I don't

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mind. I'm sad of being alone with so much to dragon. People always

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ask me for advice and they're so surprised that I've gotten here. But it's

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just like you have to just believe that it's gonna happen and just don't.

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It's don't give up. Sounds so corny, but seriously, like you never

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know what's around the corner. I was looking at colleges and got signed like

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a week later. Literally Big Boy's neighborhood people there in the neighborhood. First

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off, I would have to say, man, I had to track this

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one down, and I'm not gonna even go into a long intro. Made

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a welcome to the neighborhood. Hey, hey you And for those that know,

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they know if they don't, oh my god. The way that I

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found out too is I just went down made I went down and made a

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rabbit hole. And you are so efing talented it's unbelievable. Well it's believable,

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but your talent for and not even oh she's so young at town.

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You're just talented, and I'm gonna tell you my introduction came. You will

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hear certain things, right, But my fullest deep dive was my wife.

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And when my wife was like, you know, oh, mate, oh,

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you gotta hear this, you got to hear that, And I would just sit and I would listen and I would listen to your voice. At

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one point I was catching the covers, you know what I'm saying, but

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just getting fully in amazing And thank you for being in the neighborhood. Of

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course, thank you for having me. It's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. And I don't want to do a whole backstory. I'm pretty sure you

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have a documentary in your future coming up where I don't have to do it.

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But how did this start off for you? Had you always grew up

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singing, where you're always connected with music, I'm all, that's the only

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thing I've known my whole life is I'm gonna be a singer one day.

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I've always wanted to be, not famous. I just love to sing.

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And I always was the singer my whole life, since I was a kid

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in church and then in school, like that's all I knew. I never

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had a plan b. I don't believe in plan bees, so yeah,

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but then God is working out. Yeah, it is working out for you though, But and you always kind of and just from looking at you did

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enjoy it, you know what I'm saying. And this family, there's family

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members that do music as well or just enjoy it. I was just played

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in the house. It was played in the house, but nobody sings,

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right, Okay. Did you ever think, you know how sometimes you figure

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like, man, will this come to me? Did you know what was

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gonna happen? Or I knew like it was something that was just inside of

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me. I always just knew. Again, I don't believe in plan bes.

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I never had one, so it was like it had to work out, you know. And I was anti going to college right I turned eighteen,

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I kind of started looking at colleges. But then Rock Nations signed me.

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Thank god, I got to leave home, leave Indiana because I was

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like, not gonna stay there. But yeah, and we'll come back to

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the rock Nation. But I do want to touch you. How did Rock Nation find you? So my manager at the time, I was like eighteen

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years old. I was just doing Instagram covers and he sent my cover to

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Omar Grant, who's now president of rock Nation, but he was just an

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an R at the time, and he flew to Indiana. We got dinner.

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I didn't sing for him nothing. We just got dinner. And then

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a few weeks later I was signed and I moved and my life has been

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completely different since then. I was like five years ago. How crazy was

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that grind for you? Though? Because you grow up knowing that you love

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music and you want to sing it. But how is that grind? Is

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there talent shows? Is there anybody that would listen? Kind of thing?

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Yes? I love to sing for everybody. I did a lot of all

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those like stupid reality shows. I did the not stupid right right right.

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I did The Voice, America's Got Talent, American Idol. I never missed

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you want to televise the Voice? I did the blind audition, but it

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didn't I didn't get a chair turn and then it wasn't televised. Think the

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Lord. I hope they never released that footage. They will, Oh it

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was bad. Yeah, it's inevitable though, because soon as they, like

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right now, we probably bringing too much attention. I know, like,

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let me stop talking about Yeah, But so you had made it to the

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taping. Yes, okay, didn't get a chair turned, but I was

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nervous. I think that was the issue. But I couldn't hear anything.

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I was like cover my ear like it was weird. And so the talent

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shows, all the you know, the want to get in on the TV

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shows, So there's a lot of tuition into the school of experience before we

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get a chance to like know exactly what you're doing exactly. Did you have

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a give up on it? No, I get frustrated with it. I

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think I see my life as a movie sometimes, and I think that even

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how you said documentaries, like every struggle, every time I'm like crying about

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to give up, it's like it's just part of the movie. Like one day I'll just watch this back and be like, thank god I didn't.

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Did the family support support it as well? I think they secretly didn't believe

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it. Like my dad, he's very go to college whatever. My mom

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always supported me, but I think that they had their doubts. I used

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to cuss my brother out because he used to always just like be like,

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you're never gonna make it. Make it. But that's like a little bit

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that was supposed to do yeah, I think people had doubts, but nobody

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ever let me know. And you know, it's crazy, like even with my kids, right, you wish and hope for the best, but then

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also you want to shield them from certain things exactly, And it's not I

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don't think it's about like belief, but it's like, damn, you know

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you wanted to happen for them. But the music business. When someone comes

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home and they say, I want to be a singer. I want to

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be in a music business, that could be a scary thing for a parent

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as well or just anyone, especially in Indiana. They don't know nothing about

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that, you know, like my dad's a landscaper, my mom's a massage

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therapist. They don't know about the music industry. So I think that it

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was a lot, but thank god they gave me the freedom to just do

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what I wanted to do, you know, And did you create more on

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once you got that social media bug where you knew it like, man,

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I could do these covers, I can I could put these out. Yeah.

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I was probably just gonna do that till I died until something happened.

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Thank god something did. But that was just my life. I didn't made

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the Monday's but I'm so inconsistent. I never did it on Monday, so

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I have sound though it sounds good, but it did not work. I

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mean it worked a little bit, but whatever you hear, Yeah, exactly

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sign a nation, you know, and when people think about all, it's

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an introduction and some people will see you blow up and they don't understand the

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backstory. It'd be sometimes where it's like, oh, you know, overnight

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sensation made it, but it's like, man, if it was overnight,

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it was a longe night exactly, and a lot I'm pretty sure a lot

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of sacrifices and a lot of things you had to give up as well. Yeah, I would say that's probably the hardest part, was just the sacrifices,

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my friends being mad at me because I can't hang out. I gotta go do this. I was such a weird. I was a kid.

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I didn't want to go out because I was like there was one time I

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had a crush on a boy and I went to my mom's room when I

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started sobbing because I didn't want to get distracted from my dreams. So I

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was. I was always weird and like sacrificing things as a kid that I

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really didn't even need to but keep the eye on the price. Yeah,

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Like I was a weirdo about it. But I mean when I got signed,

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I moved to La alone. I had to leave my family, I

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didn't have any money. So I think that those are like the little sacrifices.

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But it's just part of the journey. What about the parts of the

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business that's just you know, that's just scary for artists, you know,

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and especially women and things of that nature. You know, you get people

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and you want you got this dream, but sometimes the dream can become a nightmare. Did you experience any of you know, the gatekeepers? And I

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think that's been kind of a theme in my journey. It's a lot of

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men that like to take advantage of younger women. And I've always been very

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open and I'm naive a little bit, not anymore, but at one point

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I was and I have a lot of experience with that, but I don't

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know, it's just made me like stronger. I guess that's like the theme.

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Yeah, and you see it and especially when you think like you want

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something so bad and you know that it's your will and you want it,

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and then you'll have somebody that you feel like, man, this person can

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get me in. This person is the next step. And a lot of

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times, man, you know, it's it's just a lot of bullet that's

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out there too, you know. And you could love the music, but

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then the music business is a little something different for you, right. I

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saw this quote on Instagram the other day. It was like, anything that's

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for me, I won't have to change my character to get it, and

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it was kind of come to me. So I think that that's good advice for anybody that thinks they need to like do some crazy, yeah messed up

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stuff to get to their dreams. Well, you ever in a group where

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you were always solo? I could not do a group? Really, you

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never tried. No, you know, sometimes it to be like you and

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your little homegirls, and then you'll find you'll find it, Like you're better

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at a soulo artists, you just knew. I don't think anybody could sing. That's my issue. If I had singing friends as a kid, we

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probably would have done that. But none of your friends were singers. Is

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anybody not surprised? Are most people not surprised that you're here? And I

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don't mean here in the neighborhood. But just like I knew, I knew

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she was she was destined for this. I think people knew, but I

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think a lot of people, like especially from Indiana, I have a lot

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of people from school that dm me like, oh my god, I can't

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believe it because we went to school together and there weren't really many opportunities opportunities

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music wise. So I think seeing people seeing where I'm at now and the

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people that I'm around and the you know, even being in LA like,

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it's surprising. But I don't think people are shocked. I think people are

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shocked that I'm still doing it now because a lot of people give up.

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I had. I had some singer friends as a kid, but they all

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had plan B. He's like, oh, if it doesn't work, and be a surgeon or whatever. And to me, I was like, what

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right, How could you ever want to do something else? You knew that

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you weren't going to go and get like the college degree and follow down that

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road. Yeah right, No, did before you start doing the covers and

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the covers that we were able to see, were you just singing for anybody

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that would listen out? Yeah? But I was also so shy, like

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my mom had this jewelry party once and I planned on singing for everybody,

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and then the moment came and I cried and ran upstairs. How old are

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you at that time? Probably like ten or eleven, maybe less? Did

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you get stage fright now? Is there anything now? Oh? Every time?

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I'm terrified, But I used to. I just wanted my first tour,

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so that kind of opened me up. People were singing my songs back to me. It was my fans, but I opened up for Jazzone Sullivan

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and her and those tours, I would literally stay by the mic the whole

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time, not move a muscle. The scariest part was walking out in the

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like, I hate it moving in front of people. Wow, I don't

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know. And then I would I would go on Twitter afterwards and search my name and they'll be eating me up on there. Oh but it's okay,

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people know they wouldn't. People did love the performance because the voice and everything,

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but like her stage presence, and I would be like, damn,

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that was my biggest answer, Carey, why did you go look for it?

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Though? I think that's a sign of the times too. But you

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know how you can have a hundred great ones. Then it could be that

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one, and that's the one that said I love First of all, I'm

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like obsessed with myself, So I love explain. Mean, I just love

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knowing what people think good or bad. Like I do it every day just

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because I kind of want to know what people think of me, you know,

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because I see myself now as a product. So it's kind of like

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how do people see me now? So I love doing it, but the

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mean comments, I kind of love it a little bit. Sometimes your intent,

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your intent is to go look, yeah, but not for the hand

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right right right, But just so curious and it's funny to me. So

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so fast forward. Now do you walk around? You know how to pace

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the stage? Now? Yeah? Do you still get the bug? Oh?

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Of course? Do you take a little shot for stage? Do you

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have superstitions that like before our pre witch rituals before you get on, we

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always pray and I always take a shot of Hennessy. I don't know why,

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I just do it helps me loosen up a little bit. And what

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were you doing before you there's a shot of hennessy? You know? Like

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now you probably when I was younger, I would cry before performance. I

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would think about it for a month before, and now it's like, I'll

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just get nervous an hour before and I'm good. Why why do you think

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and not the truma on? But why do you think, like even if

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it was a month before, an hour before, what do you think that is that you know that? I don't know. I used to have not

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nightmares, but I could. I would lose sleep knowing I had to perform

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in front of people in a week. I don't know why. It just

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felt so terrifying. But now it's fun, right, But I think I

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used to have to prove to strangers. Now it's people that know who I

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am, so it's more comfortable and more fun. And I don't have to

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like plan everything. I used to plan every single word I was gonna say,

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and I would rush off the stage. My team would be like, can you breathe? Right? I would talk so fast? But yeah,

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I've gotten better, thank God. And now that you see that you have

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gotten better, though, you know, is there anything now that you and

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not to have people on social media look at it? But dude, do

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you critique yourself any different now? Yeah? I hate watching them back.

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Yeah, I know when we were just out there talking about any of you

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I saw you like, oh, I hate watching the videos back. But

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my team's very hard, not very hard on me, but they do not

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sugarcoat anything. So I have an honest team. That's just like, that was weird. Why did you say that? Oh? Really, they do

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that? You? I mean, I can't like that. You look stupid.

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They don't yell. Okay, it's more of a like they're all from

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New York. They love to talk, and we just like they just make fun of me. But it's good. And when you say now, it's

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a little different because now people do know you, you know, and if

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they don't know you, they're knowing you. Yeah, And they do know

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you, and they know the material as opposed to you going out and probably

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singing a cover song and people like, oh, you know something compared to

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oh, she sounded like such and such like she handled that well. And

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then you know, when you're opening, you know, sometimes most times you

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know, you're waiting for the house to get filled, you know what I'm

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saying, or you're in front of the curtain, and those days are,

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if they're not completely over, soon to be completely over. Do you enjoy

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where you are now? Oh? Yes, I'm having the time of my

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life and I'm going to Europe and I'm traveling the world, and I'm just

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doing all these things that I dreamed of doing. And I think my family

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is kind of an awesome times that just that I'm doing the things that I

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always said I would. But I think that it just shows that consistency works

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and you cannot give up. And it sounds so corny, yeah, but

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you seriously just can't. Is it crazy that music is taking you around the

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world. Yeah, because sometimes I'm like, like, I have my bad

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days, but it's like maybe you get to sing and talk to people and

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get paid, you know, like that's what I do. It's still yours

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though, you know how some people are like, oh, you know,

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Champagne problems are you? Like, no, it's still right, It's still

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your you know what I'm saying, Like everything has issues, Yeah, and

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when people are like, oh if I had that out and like, no,

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you wouldn't right, No, you wouldn't trust me. Yeah, yeah,

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and everybody has And I mean, you could be as happy as you

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want to be with you, I mean, and that's that's that music vibe too. You gotta live what you're talking about, do you put in a

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lot of your feelings. Is music therapeutic for you as well? Yes,

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I am a lover, I'm a Pisces. I'm very emotions. Your birthday

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March sixteenth, Wow, because some of the I've never met the pisces I

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don't like, and I've never met somebody where I'm like, there are pisces.

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My mom rest in peace, Pisces. What was her birthday? She's

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February twenty third. I love February Parces. My son February twenty second.

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Really, yeah, my sister is March fourth. Okay, you know what

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I'm saying. Like, and I've met Jose, who I don't want to

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talk about. But my guy, Jose, he's a piscy man, you know what I'm saying. He always find little parts of the interview then he

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puts that up. I don't want to say too much, but yeah,

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I've never met a pisces I don't like. Okay, good, Yeah,

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but there's like pisces drama. I think parties don't like each other. And

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so you're saying that music is therapeutic for you. Yeah, I'll do a

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sing about my issues. Everything's real, everything's about the same man. The

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same man. Yes, yes, it is. Yeah. So, and

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my wife is just who never comes up to any of my interviews. My

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wife is here, no need to put her on camera. Yeah. So

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you were saying even that that she don't be mad, beat, don't be man. Everybody thinks that's about a woman. It's about a man. Yeah,

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and that's about the same guy. Yeah. So I've been dealing with

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this man for like six years, met him when I moved to LA and

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just fell in love. But it's my first love. I've never been in

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a relationship before. But we are together, not together, not together together.

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We broke up last night literally, oh yeah. But I think that

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I don't know. It's complicated, but everything thing is about him, but

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it inspires me. I think it's hard because it's like I think I'm addicted

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to the emotions of it because it fuels me. He's like my muse kind

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of and when I'm sad, I get to sing about it. So what.

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I hate the word toxic. It's so overused, but it's very toxic.

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But it's fine. It's just not two day, well almost last night.

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I think last night it ended, but I just know it's gonna start

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again. Like, I just know, but y'all don't live together, right, No? Is he ready for everything that's coming ahead of you. I

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think that's an issue. I think there's a little bit of insecurity with that.

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The bigger things get, I think the more I start catching him at

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attitude all the time, and I'm just like, what's your attitude? But it's like, okay, you just did this, you did this, You're

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about to go here. It causes fights. Is he in the business?

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Yeah, so I think he understands it. But and you can't trust these

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men in the business anyway, damn. So thank you for Veronica Jesus Christ.

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I don't think so, yeah, we do. No, I will

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never say the name. We write it down. I'll say, okay, i'll tell you afterwards, tell me now, because because then I got to

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cut back into the interne. So he is somewhat in the business, and

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he's not here. So I don't want to do too, because I mean,

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you know, he's not here because it's obviously he's not as famous as you are. Yeah, damn you. I don't like. I don't like

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dating other artists. There's just such an ego and I think that they have

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a thing where they want amuse. They just want a pretty girl to like

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sing about or like rap about whatever. And it's like, no, they don't. They don't ask questions about you. That's what I've learned dating like

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other artists. But you know what what you've been with him for six years,

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but you all go in and out and you date somebody else, kind

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of date. I date around, but he's dating around two. Like we're

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not loyal, we're not relieving together. It's just we here's the thing.

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We love each other to death, and there's a sense of like we're together,

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but we're not. I know he's doing I'm doing my own stuff.

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And you said it's complicated, complicated, and then you say with the Fellas,

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the Fellas are like, oh, you know something to rap about something, but also don't be mad. In other songs too, you ask did

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you go yeah? What else? Exactly? So when you do write a

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song that's not and something, you know, if there's a song where it's

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beautiful, or there's a song where it's like you know, you kind of

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digging in on a relationship and you see it, you see it start to

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blow up, what does that do? I think it just does nothing.

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But feed his ego. I think he loves it. Really, he's a

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Leo and they're the most narcissistic men of all time. What do you I'm

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a virgo? Okay, I'm not even a zodiac by the way, hey

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man, because I was about to ask you what about virgos? No, I don't know. But everything that you know about a Leo, he fits

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that. Yeah. I like. I like the fire, I like the

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aggression. I think. Anyway, enough about him, yeah yeah, yeah,

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so one more about him though, So so the way that things are

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moving now. And you say, last night y'all had an argument. You

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know, you don't know where it's at now. Yeah, not even an

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argument. We didn't argue. It was just like I can't do this anymore

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because all you do is line. I just catch them line all the time, and it hurts the same every time. It's like mata. Everybody that

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gives me advice, it's like, what do you expect? You know what it is? Start moving, like, know what it is. But for

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some reason, I just can't get out of my damn emotions. Damn anyway,

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but we didn't. We didn't fight last night. It was just like

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I'm done and it's like, okay, I'll get out. Bye, I'm

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going to hit you in the DM next week. I'm gonna be like y'all together. Yeah, he's sitting next to me right now. When do you

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So, when do you start your tour? I just finished tour. I'm

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looking for a tour this year. So did you just finish your your solo

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tour? On my first tour? All right, how did that feel for you? Amazing? I was in Paris in London shows like wow, crazy

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and I came from Indiana, so like having sold out shows in Paris is

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just crazy to me. It was amazing. I have a lot of memories,

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a lot of weirdos. Yeah yeah. And when you said a lot

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of weirdos, just like, okay, let me not sound rude. I

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have amazing fans, but there was just some people I just have like memories

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with, like some weirdos in the crowds, you know what I mean? And are there any are there any weirdos in this room? Maybe? Yeah?

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Okay, just kidding the one I'm thinking, Oh, he's very quiet

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over there, he's right notes. So with your own tour, is it

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different demands for you to do? You have like your own what's on your

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writer contract? My writer is food wise a bottle of Hennessy to sound like

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an alcoholic, but I do need a little shot, okay, whatever,

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a fruit tray, veggie trae, Doritos, hot sheetos. Are you hard?

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Damn? Let my background singers get their own stuff, so it's candy.

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Are you hard to work with? No O? I have gotten a

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lot better because I think that the first few years of my life working with

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a label for the first time, I have my own vision and I'm kind

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of a control freak a little bit. And I've gone through a couple of managers to find the right people. So I think that it took a lot

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of learning. But now my team. I love my team. We all

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work so well together. We're very honest, and we have fun and we

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have a lot of fun. But I am I think that I could be

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annoying, but I'm not like hard to work with. I'm just annoying.

22:07

Like I know, I get outside of music, what do you do or

22:11

what's like a chill time or to go to dinner and drink wine and just

22:15

eat pasta and like online shop is simple? Hey? Is that harder for

22:22

you? Now? Knowing that the world is watching. No. I think

22:26

sometimes when I go on dates with this man, it's hard because people see

22:32

the man I'm talking about all the time. So I think that that's kind of a thing that's not been hard at all, But it's just kind of

22:38

been thinking like, Okay, let's just be careful. I guess do you

22:42

see marriage in your future? I think so, But sometimes I feel like

22:48

I'm gonna end up like Oprah and just never get married. Yeah, easier

22:53

to live with you just somebody that pop out sometimes, Yeah, I can

22:57

go do my own thing. I don't like feeling that's my issue though.

23:00

I don't feel like I don't like feeling like I belong to somebody or somebody

23:03

owns me. I think that's been kind of a weird thing. I think

23:07

that's why I love this relationship that I have so much, because we're not together, so I get to be free when I want to. So we'll

23:12

see the toxic usy Oh, you say you don't like using toxic. Yeah,

23:17

but I don't know a word to replace that way. Well, you said when you when we first started, you said it was a yeah,

23:22

I do complicated hey man, speaking of another word that I saw you hate.

23:27

You don't like vibe? When you say, oh man, oh my

23:30

god, it's a vibe, I just feel like that word it's so over

23:37

yeah. But the other thing with that, it's like, what word do you use? I think that those are just easy words. I think I

23:41

just don't like music being I don't like vibe music. I guess what do

23:45

you listen to? All sorts of stuff? I listen to? What am

23:51

I listening to right now? Today? On the way here, I listened to two thousands hits the whole ride. I was listening to like Lady Gaga

23:56

and Rihanna and Katy Perry. For some reason, I just needed to pick

23:59

me up. I listened to a lot of gospel music. I love R

24:03

and B of course, just random stuff. My family grew up listening to

24:06

like John Mayer and like the Equal like rock, and then when I went

24:10

to school, I started listening to R and B. So really everything. What was jay Z saying to you on the carpet? Okay? So me

24:15

and him are pals. Every year. He's very nice to me every single

24:18

event. Even I went to the Beyonce show in New York and he brought

24:22

me back and I just hung out with hanging the whole time, and then

24:25

he was like, we're gonna go down here. Like he's very nice to me and welcoming. He always gives me advice. At the Book of Clearance

24:33

from here, he came up to me. We caught eyes while he was

24:36

taking pictures, and he came over and he just told me that everybody I

24:38

did the Soul Train Awards and he told me to just keep going. Everybody's

24:41

been talking about your Soul Train performance and it's always just advice. Met Beyonce

24:48

once. She told me she loved my music. Because here's a little story.

24:52

My an R was playing one of my songs in his office at the

24:56

Rock Nation office, and I think Beyonce and jay Z every once in a

24:59

while was just check up on people and walk around, you know, and

25:03

he said that he was I have a song called sexual Love, and he said he was listening to that and he had his head down or whatever,

25:07

and he looked up and Beyonce and jays had walked into his office and he

25:11

said they were like, what is that? And he sent him the song.

25:15

And then a few days later the Rock Nation Christmas party, I met

25:18

her and she told me my music was beautiful and she loved that song,

25:21

so that's kind of the story with that. But I've only met her once. How crazy is that that you would do covers? And were you always

25:30

kind of like a Beyonce? I was psycho. I think that I would

25:33

try to sound like her so bad. I would recreate her performances and take

25:37

videos on myself like doing what she does. So it was a weird obsession.

25:41

What songs? One plus one? I sing that on my tour.

25:45

Yeah, I've seen that now on tour. That's my favorite song of all

25:47

time. The Dream wrote it, and he also wrote a song on my project, which is crazy too. Just yeah, it's crazy. I have

25:53

to sometimes things are so normal now that I have to kind of force myself

25:57

to remember, Like Mada, this is if you were twelve right now,

26:00

you will be sobbing, you know. But when I met her, it

26:03

just felt so normal. So sometimes I'm like, am I jaded? Or

26:07

like you know what I mean? Hold on, that's my wife's song?

26:12

Yeah, go ahead, but it's it's really crazy. Do you do listen?

26:21

That One's a struggle. I'll have to pitch that down if you really

26:25

that's the one I was like, oh, man, can you sing something for us? Yeah? I was going to wait for you, no going

26:33

to because she came all the way here. Yeah, I would with anything

26:37

in particular or anything. I want to hear one plus one because that's your

26:41

favorite. Yeah, I would love to do that one plus one one past

26:45

one. I'll do that fine at nothing at you. Fine ain't something.

26:56

I don't give it them because I got it with you. I don't know

27:03

much about algebra, but I know the one one nichals two and it's me

27:12

and you. That's all we have and the broad is through because baby Pee

27:21

ain't God nothing without a load, and Darling ain't goden for the both of

27:36

us. So come on, baby May loves me. I guess that's damn

27:45

man. Amen, I sing anything else if you want me to. All

27:52

right, well, hey, you don't know Valerie by uh, I really

27:55

don't know that song. Everybody tells me to cover that. I don't know.

27:59

I was going to hit you like, dude, can you please learn Valide? That actually was a song that we talked about doing on tours.

28:04

Oh my god, you would kill that. Yes, I don't know that.

28:10

I don't even not knowing that you did you do it? Well, she wouldn't know, she would like Mallory valideh. Mallory is all right,

28:18

Uh, what else I'll do it? Don't be mad about that, man,

28:26

Okay, I am man. Is that on on the best that you

28:32

have putting on Versachi and black black, get in that. I told you,

28:42

Remember that Bay, Now that I'm laying any sheets, got him brand

28:49

new. I feel so good without you. Was shooting and play those games.

28:59

Yay. Yeah, don't be I started a little too high. Don't

29:04

be man, now that probably I'm on your screens. I've been making new

29:11

friends coming on tie Tie dropped, no time for blues. You took your

29:17

shot block block God blocked you. Hey that you know I've been there before.

29:22

None up, don't be mad. Yeah. In the neighborhood, yum,

29:30

stick around y'all radios, big boys, neighborhood. I was talking about

29:36

it was times where I've seen this these journeys before, and I know you've

29:41

been working extremely hard on your career being you, and I was like,

29:47

dude, I've seen these these things happen, and I'm I can't wait to

29:51

see your journey than you know. And I was talking about how I remember

29:55

just a Destiny's child coming into the neighborhood, just just young and you know,

30:00

can we do the show and you know, and seeing where they Beyonce

30:06

eble where they have went since then? And I mean I can go on

30:08

and on about the people that I've seen that sat in chairs in front of

30:12

us. So I can't imagine and I can't wait to see what's happening with

30:17

you. Thank you very very much. Yeah, and then you too,

30:19

YouTube will stop doing my show and nothing of anybody last time. This is

30:27

probably it. So you're saying you may go out on tour even more so,

30:32

not sure. I know that I have a project with Nada. Do

30:34

you know? K Trinada? What did they? Why am I knowing this?

30:38

He's like a dance music Okay, got you, got you, got

30:42

you. I have a project with him coming out, just like I've been

30:45

crying too much about this man, So I just want to have fun and

30:48

go out and go to the club. So that's what this project is. It's like a little EP that'll come out in the next few months and then

30:52

I have an album, my debut album. I don't know when it's going

30:55

to come out, but that's this year for sure. I just started working

30:57

on it and I'm just singing and crying and whatever. He too tour this

31:03

year, probably, but I don't know yet. It's crazy that you say

31:07

my debut album because it hasn't. I know, everybody thinks my most recent

31:11

project is my debut, but it was. But I'm kind of saying it

31:15

is a little bit because it's doing so well. It's like, okay,

31:17

right, right, right, you want to call it that. It's fine. So now I saw you with for Real? Yes, what's going on

31:22

with for Real? So earlier last year. I can't believe it's twenty twenty

31:27

four now, but I went to Miami and did a few days with him

31:30

and we did a few songs. We did like four or five songs,

31:34

and we haven't put those out yet, so those are on the way too.

31:37

Do you feel like you live in your dream? Oh? Yes,

31:40

yeah, it's just crazy. I don't know. But things when I live,

31:45

when I have those moments, things don't feel like it doesn't feel like

31:48

oh I made. It just feels kind of normal, you know. But

31:52

then it's like I have to remind myself that this is normal, you know

31:56

what I mean? But it is crazy, and I'm making my friends and

32:00

family from home proud, So that's all that really matters. But what do

32:04

your family say about the success thus far? They just my dad's so scared

32:09

I'm never going to come home again. So he's always texting me, like

32:12

trying to get me to go home, and it's like, I'm never going to not go home, you know what I mean. I think that they

32:16

get a little nervous sometimes that I'm gonna get carried away. But I don't

32:20

think that is even in me, you know, I don't think that's I

32:24

have a community. Now. I did move here alone. What brought you

32:29

to La? I got signed It's a Rock Nations, so and that was

32:35

it? Had you ever lived here before? I had been here like once

32:37

for a few days my mom, My mom used to go everywhere with me,

32:39

So yeah, but I've been here since then. I had no money.

32:44

I would just take the train everywhere, in the bus, the train that nobody knows about. And I didn't even have wife. I couldn't even

32:49

afford Wi Fi in my apartment, you know. And now I just bought

32:52

a car the other day. Like it's just crazy how life works. I

32:55

just want to say to not No, I'm just I am. People always

33:00

ask me for advice, and I'm so surprised that I've gotten here. But

33:04

it's just like you have to just believe that it's going to happen and just

33:07

don't It's don't give up. Sounds so corny, but seriously, like you

33:10

never know what's around the corner. I was looking at colleges and got signed

33:14

like a week later, literally, you know, so you never know when

33:16

your moment is. And I just if you have a dream and it's in

33:20

you and you know that that's what's for you, just don't do something else. And you say you just recently bought a car. Is that your first

33:25

car that you bought? Like this is mine? Yeah? Do you have

33:29

a license yet? Yeah? But I just got a year ago and you

33:32

why yeah, because you know why, I'm a year since I have.

33:39

It's been a large portion of my life that I've been Like, man,

33:44

there's a question that I always ask and I even asked when I would go to the DMV, and I still up here. I work at the DMV.

33:50

You answered that question, and the question is did you get into an

33:53

accident on your driver's test? Okay, you know what now, I know

33:59

you do your a little research. Yeah, Terrell show. Yes, I

34:02

did get in an accident in my driver's test, but it was it was

34:07

in a bad accident, but you got in. It was nobody died,

34:14

nobody died, nobody got hurt. The car drive away. So my mom

34:17

took me to get This is an Indian This is why I didn't get my

34:20

license. I took years to get it again, or to try even again.

34:23

I'm madic, Yeah, it really was. I was like sixteen or

34:28

seventeen, and in Indiana, where it's the easiest place to drive in the

34:31

world, so that already tells you something. But I was parallel parking and

34:35

I just hit the car that I was parking by. It was a truck.

34:37

It was like an old red truck. And the guy came out.

34:42

He did not care at all. He was like whatever. And the girl

34:44

was the girl that was with me. She was one of the D and V girls that's like follows every rule, teacher's pet so she was livid and

34:52

my mom was just laughing. But the guy came out, he didn't care.

34:55

You knew you failed then, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

35:00

I think honestly, I think part of me thought I didn't because I

35:02

was looking at her like is there still a chance? And she was like,

35:05

so obviously I can't pass you. And I was like, damn,

35:08

So do they let you drive back? No? My mom had to come

35:13

get me from the spot from the park, the place where I hit the

35:15

damn car, and I was in the craziest parties. I had to they

35:20

let you drive your own car for that, right, I think everybody does it right. So I was in my mom's car, so she had another

35:25

DMV person to come driver. So it was just a whole mess. So

35:30

she had to get somebody from the DMV to drive her to the scene of

35:32

an accident and then drive you home. The worst part is that they announced

35:37

it at the DMV in front of everybody, so she had to deal with

35:42

the embarrassment of like, my daughter just here is here. She failed her

35:47

test. Her mom will be taking her home now. Please get your failed

35:52

test stamped at window twelve. Thank you exactly. Literally, Hey man,

36:00

that's a different kind of walk of Shane where you're like, I know,

36:07

but you were young too, though kind of, but I was still even

36:13

late. Like it was so funny because all my little cousins were like,

36:15

we're my cousins are like ten years younger than me. They were like, made it, We're going to get their license before they before you, And

36:20

they actually did. But whatever, I haven't Now I love to drive.

36:23

I can't believe I didn't try sooner. Yeah, did you drive here today?

36:30

Yes? I did? Oh, go ahead, now park, you

36:32

put your seat belt on. I did Have you gotten into any fender benders

36:37

or any accidents since then? Yes? You have. Well, there was

36:43

one time I was backing up and I just didn't even look. I've backed

36:46

right into a car with my friend. I was just but not like,

36:50

no reason why. I just didn't look. I hit a tesla. But

36:52

I got out and they didn't have any damage, so it was fine. Did you leave? I left after I got out and checked with them to

37:00

make sure it's okay. Right, So the owner of the tesla was there,

37:02

Yes, okay, so you just didn't leave this He was actually on

37:05

the day. That was the worst part. And the girl. The girl said bye to him. She was like, bye, I think he was

37:10

dropping off at home. Wow, And had they had to awkwardly say bye

37:14

after I hit his car. Everything's so awkward. With me every single story

37:17

I have. Amen, But all my friends voted that I'm the best driver

37:21

out of all of us. That's bad. They're a good driver. I

37:25

really am. I just sometimes am in my own world. I think that's

37:29

the issue. But you back there without looking, so you pretty much drive

37:31

by. Feel like if I don't hit anything, I'm good exactly. Yeah,

37:36

And look you got here today, I did. You didn't park on P one? Did you? I parked on P. Two? Okay,

37:44

as long as I'm good. So right now you're recording your album? Yes,

37:47

are you standing out of your own way? Are you too critical of

37:51

your music now? No? I'm actually my an R fights me because he

37:54

pushes me, like through the Night my song. We recut that so many

37:58

times because I had too much auto tune on it and he wanted me to

38:00

hit those high notes at the end, and I don't want to do that because sometimes I think I can be lazy. I think that I don't.

38:07

I think I sometimes struggle with trying not to seem like I'm proving I can sing, you know, And some people it's just like they you can tell

38:13

they just want you to know they can sing. So sometimes I try to

38:15

avoid that, but then my team will be like stop. So can I

38:22

sing now what? Through the night? The night for it's like a little

38:30

talent. I'm about to take my heels off because they're falling off. Okay,

38:39

I know what you want, I know what you think you right,

38:45

I know I don't mind. I'm tired of being alone, wait too much

38:52

to drag, and I'm tired of wasting some you know that love don't come?

39:00

He say, yeah, how do I know you leave me? Can

39:07

you go for mind? Feeling some things? I ain't feel it? I

39:17

thank you should try try to blow mine. No, no, think you

39:28

should try to dry me through the night, jail. I keep starting songs

39:37

way too high and in the high notes coming. I'm struggling. But whatever

39:40

have you met any No, you sound amazing? Thank you? Have you

39:46

met anyone that you felt like? Damn? Not that they're my peer now,

39:52

but dude, I'm a I'm a fan of this person. Oh yeah,

39:55

like everybody, even the dream like I'll just text him. Who else?

40:00

I feel like? Like Chris Brown? Okay, here's a story.

40:04

The other day. This is the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life.

40:07

I got a text I have a song with Chris Brown that came out a few months ago on his album I can't This is so embarrassing. I

40:13

got a text one night from like Chris Breezy dot management at gmail dot com

40:16

and he was like, hey, made bl blah blah blah, I have

40:19

this song I want you on. He called me from a different number.

40:22

I got two miss calls. I'm so mad, two miss calls. I

40:28

didn't see them. I called him right back. He was like, sorry, my service is super bad, but can you listen to this song and

40:31

let me know what you think? I want you on it? Whatever,

40:34

send me an iCloud link and then I clicked the link and obviously it didn't

40:37

work, and I typed in my information like my iCloud info and then I

40:43

was like, this is a scam. So I sent it to my one

40:45

of my an r's Ethan and I was because I was like, I'm gonna

40:49

make him be hacked it at me. So I sent it to him and

40:52

he was like made it. This is completely a scam. Whatever. So

40:57

then I texted the number back like nice try and they were like ha ha.

41:00

Then I searched the number on cash app that called me and it was somebody named like Lawrence or something. So I was like Lawrence, and they

41:06

said, how did you know? And then I just blocked the number. So I'm an idiot. First of all, I'm I think my phone is

41:10

tapped right now. The whole part of the story that was that I texted

41:15

Chris Brown after like did you send me this link? And he was like no, it's definitely a scammer, and then me and him start talking.

41:20

So basically, right now my phone is taffed. I'm so worried that why

41:23

do you think your phone is? Are you hearing things or something? The

41:27

other day I was trying to like go to dry bar and get a blowout,

41:30

and some weird I some weird I Cloud number popped up or I Cloud

41:35

email popped up. That's not my iCloud. So I'm just like somebody's in

41:38

my phone, and I'm so worried that on Twitter tomorrow I'm about to wake

41:43

up and see something that I don't want to see. Anyway, the moral

41:46

of the stories that I can text Chris Brown and be like did you just

41:50

scare me? And whoever like hacked me, I hate you, amen.

41:55

So because at first I thought I was gonna be Oh it was Chris Brown.

41:59

No, it wasn't Chris Brown, but it came from a Chris Brown

42:01

management. Yeah, and I'm an idiot for believing that in the first place.

42:05

And did you think, like, oh my god, it's on, like I got I think this is before the Chris Brown, before y'all record

42:10

the record. This is like him trying to im trying to get it cool,

42:15

like another song. I can't wait. I already did one. We

42:17

have a song already out, so that one was already Oh so this is

42:21

how long ago? Now with that, I put the Chris Brown song out

42:23

a month ago. Probably it's on his leg his album, like three days

42:29

ago, four days ago. Oh, but thank god the info that I

42:35

typed in, the iCloud info that I typed in was wrong. It wasn't even my iCloud with a different email. So I don't think they got in.

42:40

But I think part of me is like what if I once I clicked

42:43

the link, they got into my phone. They can see everything because I

42:46

changed my passwords. My friends were dying, like they're probably watching you change

42:50

your password. They are, Yeah, do you think they're in my phone?

42:53

Haven't they done anything? Yet because they're waiting. That's what I'm terrified

42:57

for. Yeah, they're waiting, especially if he's been three or four days,

43:00

they're definitely waiting. They're waiting for they're waiting for keypads, waiting for

43:04

patterns. They're waiting for either automatic like uh, Apple account stuff all that.

43:08

Like I got a guy that does that. Can you help me?

43:13

Do you have a cybersecurity man? Just write down your past? Okay everything?

43:20

Yeah? Yeah, made that they tell you, don't hit the link.

43:23

I think that hopefully this was a learning lesson and it's going to prevent

43:27

me from doing that in the future. But I pray to God, nobody's

43:30

on my phone. I'm about to hire in your phone? Yeah, I was about to say that. What's in your phone? Many things? Oh

43:36

do you listen to my sexual music? There's things in there that would come

43:39

out, I mean, not anything crazy. But everybody has stuff on their

43:42

phone. No, we don't. Yes, you do what you're gonna do.

43:45

Put up a picture on my son playing basketball? Oh yeah, I

43:49

have nothing crazy. I mean I don't have crazy things in my phone.

43:52

Okay I do, yes, And without going to DP. What's the worst

44:00

some of the worst things they can find in your phone. I mean, just the obvious that you would assume any young twenty three flirtatious girl, not

44:08

flirtatious nothing with the man. But I mean it's like, I mean,

44:14

you know, no, I don't you know. I'm not a girl,

44:21

That's true. Oh but do I yearn to be There's things? Yeah,

44:25

But honestly I want to be mad because I look good in the things that

44:29

are in my So sometimes I'm like, Okay, if anything happened, I

44:31

hope it's this one. And so the hacker that's out there, man,

44:37

make sure it's the flattering one. Yeah. Please. What about your privacy?

44:40

Now? Do you do you feel like you're giving up some of your

44:43

privacy? I mean I have a big mouth. Obviously, I'm sitting here

44:46

telling you the story and telling you what's my phone, so not enough privacy.

44:51

But I think I'm naturally a private person. Nobody on social media knows

44:55

who my real friends are. They don't know who I'm dating. They don't

44:58

know like the real media on the country in the animata, but they know

45:01

the stupid things that I do. But that's human nature. I think that's

45:06

everybody. I think that's why I don't have an issue being so honest about my life and those things, because it's like we're all human beings and maybe

45:12

it You're just twenty three, yeah, and your twenty fourth is coming up

45:15

in March. What do you do for your birthday this year? I want

45:17

to go to Rio. I've never been to Brazil. Oh my lord,

45:21

have you been before? Yeah? Is it fun? It's very Yeah. I went out there for UFC a event, but yeah, it's fun.

45:27

I never went out there for like parties and clubs and stuff. But I

45:30

can see I'm not really even a partier, but I want to. I

45:34

want to just dance and be in the sun and get ten. And you

45:37

know, will you still have a chance to do that or you're going to

45:40

try to work on your birthday too? Well? I had to push.

45:44

I think I'm doing south By Southwest this year. Maybe, so I had to do the day the week before my birthday. I've told my whole team

45:50

so many times, I've put my calendar, do not book me on this

45:53

day? But if I have to cancel it again, do you feel like

45:57

you're still a hell of a work in progress? Yes? Yes, oh

46:00

my god. Yes. People keep like praising the things that did I did

46:05

last year, but I'm so far from where I want to be, I

46:09

mean, talent wise, performance wise, success wise, like everything. So

46:15

I have a long way to go, but I'm enjoying the journey. Yeah,

46:21

and with you being twenty three, that God willing, there is so

46:23

much ahead of you. Yes, But I think sometimes I feel it about

46:28

that a little. I think artists wise, right, because you have artists

46:32

blowing up at eighteen seventeen years old. So I think that sometimes as an

46:37

artist there's a little bit of not even insecurity. But am I making it

46:42

soon enough? Right? But I think you gotta just trust God and it

46:45

can't be your Yeah, it's your timing too though. What's your relationship with

46:49

Sissa? Never mind her in person? She has supported me a lot on

46:53

social media. She wrote a song on my recent project. I would like

47:00

to get closer with her. So it's a very work relationship, right,

47:05

supportive, but I'm not I wouldn't say what we're friends? Right? So

47:09

when she did right and co write with you, it was just separate areas

47:15

you? Just y? She writes, you write that actually happened when I was first signed? Yeah, yeah, like years ago. So the song.

47:22

We had it in the song vault for like five years and then decided

47:25

to sounded good on my recent project, so we brought it back out.

47:30

Yeah, she man Sin is having a hell of a time too, I know. Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing too, is like she she's

47:37

like how old, like thirty some early thirties, so it's like and she's

47:39

in her prime now. So it's like, I think that it's different than

47:43

it used to be. I feel like at one point that wouldn't have been

47:45

the case, but I think the times and then two made it. And not to disrespect anyone else, you know, but you're making real music and

47:52

those are like timeless collections when somebody and connections. But those are songs where

48:00

when you can get somebody to feel what you're doing, then you can't rush

48:06

that process. Right. Even my album, like it's supposed to come out

48:08

this year, and I'm just like, I know that's not coming out this

48:10

year, you know, like we have two songs we're right, twenty twenty

48:14

four. Yeah, so you think that your album is twenty twenty five.

48:20

Okay, now that you say it right like that, it feels wrong.

48:24

But my last project was suposed to come out a year before it did.

48:28

So sometimes I think I would rather put out quality work than rush it and

48:31

be regretful when it doesn't do well because I rushed it. You know what

48:35

I mean? Are you afraid of success? No? Are you afraid of

48:38

failure? I mean yes, yes, yes, yes? Do you And

48:44

when I say this, do you get in your own way? Sometimes?

48:47

Oh, I'm Probably the biggest thing that's get in my way is myself and

48:53

my thoughts. I overthink everything, so I think that sometimes that's the thing

48:57

that I've definitely struggled with. But thank god I have a team that catches

49:00

it and they're like, Mata, you are crazy. Do you procrastinate?

49:05

Yes, but I always get it. I've always been a procrastinator, even

49:07

in school. But I always are you last minute or you'll get it in

49:10

the last minute. I always pulled through the last second, like, yeah,

49:13

I'll get it done. But it could be something that's a month away and you want to say, oh, let me do that right now,

49:17

so I have three weeks to do You think you'll go back to school.

49:22

My cousin asked me the other day, like, would you ever go to college? Yeah? Maybe, if I want to like, maybe want to

49:29

retire some sings. Know. He was like going for music, and I

49:32

was like, for what? You are in class for music? Like that's

49:37

the dumbest thing I've heard. I would not go to college for music.

49:42

Yeah, to go too, Like, you shut up, stupid. Maybe

49:50

one day if I want to learn something when I'm retired. But you are,

49:52

you are, and sometimes the best positions you can be in is learning

49:57

hands on, and I live in it. I'm working with Pharrell. Why

50:00

would I want to go back to college for music? Even your teacher,

50:04

your instructor to be like, dude, mate, what the doing? Get

50:07

out? We don't want you here, so so take your time with that

50:13

before I let you out of here. Let me ask my wife real quick.

50:15

Anything else you want to know, baby? Yeah? Who is she

50:19

excited to work with? Yeah? Okay, let me get it. Who

50:22

are you excited to work with? Any collabs or anything like that? So I don't have to seem like my wife asked the question. We honestly don't

50:30

have any collabs on the way for the project, not yet. We definitely

50:34

will, but I want to work with John Mayor for sure. My favorite

50:38

song in the world other than one post one is Lesson Learned by Alicia Keys

50:43

and John Mayer. So I would love to do something like I love I

50:46

cried to it like I think I cried to it last night, to be

50:49

honest. After my little breakup? How many things? How many times you

50:52

think you broke up with your guy? Like ten? But there's been a

50:57

few, I mean not really ten. Here's the thing we talk about,

51:00

did we kind of do it for a little bit and then we just fall right back in. But there's been like two times we didn't talk for a

51:06

few months. We always watched together. I dated somebody else, I had

51:08

a whole boyfriend, and then y'all come back. Yeah, right, and

51:14

then you write good material, you know the swift So sex came from sex

51:19

X? Yeah? Yeah, what are you thinking about when you hear that?

51:23

Yeah? Like, who are you thinking about? Give me your phone?

51:32

Let me take that out of your playlist? Right? Yeah, that's

51:36

when I go in the room, like, what are some of the things

51:42

that are on your career bucket list when it comes to awards or maybe acting.

51:47

I definitely want to act. I'm a drama queen in real life,

51:52

so I think that i'd be good at crying the other day, I had

51:54

a crime in music video and I kind of killed it. But I had

51:58

to watch Forrest Gump the grave scene that gets me. Forrest Gump is my

52:01

favorite movie. And if I watched the grave scene, no matter what,

52:05

if you put it on right now, start crying. Wasn't Forrest Gump out before you were born? And it's still a good movie. So that's so

52:14

you're literally on the set looking at a monager. I had to watch it

52:17

cry. They'd be like go and then I would put it down and just

52:21

sing the song and I had tears ago down my eyes. Yeah, well,

52:25

speaking of it, when I got that anything for the shot? Did

52:29

you get bit by a snake? Oh my god, you guys. Anyway back to your question, I just about to ask the same one, but

52:35

I was actually wondering, like, if it scarred you, it traumatized me.

52:39

It is a whole different scar But so you had a snake in your

52:45

video. Yeah, it wasn't my idea, and I kind of was just

52:49

like, whatever about it. It never is somebody putting you in danger,

52:51

right, but you know it's crazy. I didn't sign any waivers. I should have sued them after that happened, but it's so long ago whatever,

52:58

and I'm not really pressed anymore trauma, just knowing the story. But yeah,

53:01

like I was laying there and I could feel, I could literally sense

53:05

it was about to do something. I could see it looking at me, and in the video you can see it's literally like iron Me and I kept

53:09

telling them like, oh, this one's not supposed to be that close,

53:13

and then it just reached up and me and I grabbed it. It was

53:15

instinct. People got so mad. Peter posted me I had death threats in

53:19

my way because he well because because like snake bit you and out of reaction,

53:24

you took it off of you. It was don't use animals as props,

53:29

And I get it, like and I think that I agree. I

53:32

think I feel a little guilty now, but it was just it was I

53:36

don't know, it all happened so fast. But yeah, I do feel

53:39

bad for grabbing it too. I do feel bad, but from your team,

53:50

no, But yeah, that was a moment, hey man, And

53:54

you are being successful in the most craziest times, like the cancel culture.

54:01

Everybody's right, everybody's sensitive. I know, it's I think that's the thing

54:07

that makes me overthink everything I do or say, because I'm like, could I could cancel for that? And I say crazy things, but I don't

54:12

say anything that would give me canceled. You do say some crazy stuff though,

54:15

yeah, yeah, I'm so scared for like five years. Yeah,

54:19

this interview with resurfacing, but I don't think we said anything too crazy and

54:22

it used to be worse. Can I hear it? Yeah? Okay,

54:27

they'll be like made, Why do you say that? Anyway? Back to

54:29

my bucket list, I want to say that's real quick. I want to do rock and Rio one day. That's one of my dreams. I want

54:34

to headline it song with John Mayor and Grammy's of course, but that's I

54:39

don't know. I'm not too focused on that, but I feel like it'll

54:42

come. And then definitely movies or something, but I'm not I don't really

54:45

care about the is it egot thing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I

54:50

don't. I'm not like, no, I don't chase awards. I feel

54:52

like, but if that ever happens, I will be happy. And Elks and John just got his easyeah. I know that you're a huge Eli and

55:00

John fan, and he used to babysit you as well, so that's crazy.

55:06

It's good I called him and I congratulated him. Yeah, man, and just knowing him for years and and and his words not mine, him

55:15

being in a posuit way. He changed your diapers like he know you.

55:20

Oh yes, that's gotta be crazy, man. So when he got the

55:23

E got you hit him up and was like, what do you say?

55:25

Is it? Is it? What do you say? Yeah? Now watch

55:31

somebody here and watch the viral. John changed my diapers or somebody piece be

55:43

like we searched it. She was lying, Yeah, you can't. You

55:46

can't do right by social Yeah. But that's kind of why I love making

55:50

people mad on Twitter because it's like people really just are mad this girl that

55:53

I made up some story that I grew up in this town and I'm a

55:57

Jewish, I came from a Jewish rich family, and I'm like, I'm

56:00

not even Jewish. Hold on, and my family didn't grow up in this town, like you're not. Was that you on his burner account? And

56:09

you can't put all those fires out? So don't even chase. I know

56:14

sometimes I do if I don't care. But I realized, like, stop mating, because I used to get mad and I used to just yellow people

56:19

online. But I feel like every artist kind of has to go through that

56:22

phase of like doing that to just realize it's not what to do, not

56:25

worth it. Yeah, really, have you made anyone that you that's in

56:30

the business that was like a butthole? Like, man, I wish I

56:32

didn't meet that person, and I want to ask who it was, But

56:36

you've had that experience, yes, for sure. I think the worst thing

56:38

is I meet people and then my team will tell me, oh, when

56:40

you first got signed, they would they were talking about you, Like there's

56:45

I met a girl the other day. She's in the business. She's a

56:47

successful manager. I guess I don't even know. But when I first got

56:52

signed, I met her. I ran into her in Paris and she came up to me and introduce herself and she was so sweet and nice and like

56:59

a fan. And somebody told me when you first got shined signed, she

57:02

was like just talking about me. So it's like that's kind of the worst

57:06

part. And the thing is team coming to tell you neative team to tell

57:12

me not to say that. I think they just want me to see the

57:17

realness of people. I think another thing, who was it? I'm not

57:22

going to tell you that. But one thing that I've gone through this is a big trend in my career. I have a lot of beef with like

57:29

older men in the industry. I think as a young woman when I was

57:31

like seventeen, I'm telling too much of my business. They're about to yell

57:37

at me. You're good at this anyway. Just like when I first started,

57:45

I would just get in fights with older men about things that I didn't

57:50

really know, like when I had to choose my first bit like lawyer the

57:52

Layer that I didn't go with, like cuss me out, and it's like,

57:55

I'm seventeen years old, I don't even know what this stuff really means,

57:58

and you're yelling at me. So I think that that's kind of been

58:00

the hardest thing, is just staying strong as a young woman and just knowing

58:05

that there's a lot of emotions and a lot of crazy men. So I

58:08

think that just being able to just shut that off and not get bothered by

58:14

it anyway. I don't even know what got me into that question, but answer, I enjoyed it though, Man, Well, thank you for coming

58:22

into the neighborhood. You're crazy. I'm not telling you why not because it

58:27

was more than one. Huh. There's a few people artist wise that you

58:30

failed the funky vibe from. Give me like ten seconds to think about it.

58:37

I'm not going to tell you about No, I'll tell you. I'm

58:43

not going to tell you I don't have any I don't think I even have

58:45

anybody though. Honestly, the artists that have the biggest attitude are the ones

58:47

that aren't successful, or you can tell they're not as successful as they want

58:52

to be. I think that's I think they're just angry about their own lives.

58:53

You fight no, my brother, You just fight your brother in that

58:59

same way. Really, we had like an angry household because my dad and

59:04

my brother have like they used to get so angry. And I think that

59:07

me being like the only little girl in the house, we would always fight.

59:10

Let me stop telling stories all day long. Hey, what does your

59:15

brother do for living? You say he just wants to be a chef.

59:19

He's younger than me, He's still in Indiana. I'm trying to get him

59:22

to come out here so bad. I have so many restaurants that always ask about him. But I think that I gotta just kind of force him to

59:28

do it. Oh, man, and you're twenty three. How old is he twenty one? Oh wow, and he's he's already cooking and everything.

59:35

He's good too. He makes really good food. And it's all weird stuff.

59:37

It's not just like we'll bring him out. I'm trying to get him

59:42

too, we'll call him okay. Mean, I would love to know if

59:45

you have a mount rushmore of R and B singers, because there's always like,

59:49

oh, the top five rappers or whatever. But got about R and

59:51

B, Jazz and Sullivan, ye ba Brandy. Who else I think I

59:57

need? In scissor, I think, wait that say says already because we

1:00:00

have the singers, but says it's so cool and like, you know,

1:00:04

that's a good mix. Also, if you do you believe in love languages?

1:00:08

Oh yes, what's your love language? I'm so crazy. I think

1:00:13

quality time and physical touch and acts of service. I don't like gifts because

1:00:19

I'm so awkward and I hate opening gifts in front of people because it's like,

1:00:22

eh so not receiving gifts. And then my giving love language is acts

1:00:25

of service, physical touch and yeah wise words was Events Staples that said when

1:00:35

people give you gifts, they give you gifts that they want something or they

1:00:38

just want to see you open the gift so they can feel satisfied. I

1:00:42

think sometimes it's a selfishness about gifts, like I don't need your gifts.

1:00:46

Show me that you'll go walk my dogs for me or something like that.

1:00:50

Do you have dogs? No, I'm just saying if I did, So,

1:00:54

what if somebody gives you a dog and then they don't have to yes,

1:01:01

Like, don't just assume I can take care of a dog and then

1:01:04

leave me with it, and I have to. If I can't take care

1:01:06

of I got to get rid of it on my own. Nobody's done that. But sometimes I see videos where people give you get rid of it.

1:01:12

I'm not saying get rid of it on my own, but like I have

1:01:14

to deal with Peter's gonna write that. No, I don't know. So

1:01:22

you're not looking for someone to walk your dogs because you don't have dogs.

1:01:27

No, But if I did, I would want a man that if I

1:01:30

needed him to like go to my house and grab my dogs and walk my

1:01:32

dogs from me here. Okay, So you just said okay, I can

1:01:36

say somebody that will go out and put like pro paane in my spaceship to

1:01:39

right, Yeah, because I do have a spaceship. Okay, yeah,

1:01:43

they got some dogs in it. Yes, I heard that. Mate. Have you been to the Rock Nation Brunch? I know you signed to rock

1:01:49

Nation. I have been to the brunch a few times. Any questions I

1:01:55

have, I have a few. You know, I've never been to the

1:01:59

brunch. I don't think, well, I've never been invited to to You've

1:02:02

never been to the brunch. I've never been to the brunch. And I

1:02:06

remember lam A. She was she couldn't believe it, and she was like

1:02:09

whoa. She said, there was so many much less famous people than you

1:02:14

and there and I was like, I don't know how to take that either, but I guess, yeah, what do y'all do at the Rock Nation

1:02:21

brunch? First of all, so it takes an hour to get in there

1:02:23

because you have to meet at a shuttle and then you get shuttled to a

1:02:25

place and then get another shuttle. Like it's like, I don't mind doing

1:02:29

that, Okay, Okay, Well after that all, really you just kind

1:02:34

of drink and eat and walk around and talk. So you do eat the

1:02:37

brunch because other people have talked to you. They said they don't even eat. I eat. You will never catch me not eating there. Especially they

1:02:44

have like those cheese you know when they make the pasta in the giant cheese thing and it's like melted. It's like, why would you not want to

1:02:50

eat that? So and everybody's there, huh. It is one of those

1:02:53

places where it's like the smallest person even though except for me, but like

1:02:59

the least known people in the world are still like some of the most famous

1:03:01

people in the world, you know what I mean. So you kind of

1:03:04

look around like every single person that's just somebody, but everybody's kind of just

1:03:08

waiting for Beyonce to get there the whole time. Really, yeah, Beyonce

1:03:12

and Rihanna, they always show up like at the last second. So I

1:03:14

think a lot of people just kind of wait around that. Did anybody did

1:03:17

you go to last year? Was anyone asking where's Big Boy? Everybody?

1:03:23

And I was just like, I don't know, it's so sad. Oh

1:03:28

man, maybe this year is my year. I think it is. Maybe

1:03:30

they're not having the Bunches year. I don't think though, of course, are you serious? Yeah, I just found out yesterday, so it may

1:03:37

be my year. It is your year. Maybe you having the brunch.

1:03:43

Are they telling me I feel like Rock Nation's gonna kill me? Or they I don't think they're having the brunches year though, or they knew you were

1:03:47

coming here and they said, oh, big boy, bring us a That's

1:03:55

like the girl the story we did today where the girl didn't invite her big

1:03:59

friends and because she was overweight she couldn't. She didn't invite her overweight friends.

1:04:05

Yeah, man, so that us that's me. That's one of those.

1:04:11

Yeah. Do you know I used to weigh over five hundred pounds?

1:04:13

Really five hundred pounds? Yep? How did you lose it? All? I had gas with white pasts like twenty years ago, and then now I

1:04:19

just eat right? What even is that gas? Like the stomach thing where

1:04:26

they kind of remove some of your stomach and so I did that, and

1:04:29

now it was just like, so your stomach shrunk and then you did you eat less or something? Yeah? And I can eat now. I can

1:04:33

eat now, And then I did. Is that a picture here right there

1:04:36

and right there? Yeah? Are you serious? Yeah? Jay Z's in

1:04:40

the middle of you're getting there. I didn't see. Yeah, that's jay

1:04:45

Z in the middle. Yeah. Well, Congress. That's crazy. Is

1:04:48

it just easier? Like what's the best part? You know what? I

1:04:51

still like, I got gas with white pasts twenty years ago. I still

1:04:56

made up our walk even today, walking to the restaurant, I walked by

1:05:00

and I look at my reflection off the glass. I can't. I still

1:05:03

can't believe that I'm not five hundred pounds. Really, and the smallest things

1:05:09

that you probably don't even think about, not that I was like tripping about

1:05:13

it, but when I flew I had to have a seatbelt extension. The

1:05:16

trade table never came down in front of me. I would buy both seats

1:05:19

because why am I gonna punish you for being? Yeah, but not knowing?

1:05:25

Do you know what I noticed towards the not the end, but I

1:05:29

started sitting up sleeping a lot, really, you know, And there was

1:05:31

no way at five hundred pounds I could have still been alive today. Oh

1:05:36

seriously, no way in the world. Like everything would have came, Everything

1:05:41

would have came. And that's why they called me big boy. Because some

1:05:43

people now they'll say why that yep, yeah, and my wife definitely like,

1:05:47

oh that's not what the reason why to call him big one? Yeah?

1:05:50

She got a constantly worried he weighed five hundred pounds the other thing,

1:06:00

and she's like he lost weight. I was waiting no more and didn't.

1:06:04

Yeah, yeah, definitely not an pearna. How do you feel about like

1:06:08

o zimpick and all these weight loss things people are doing now, whatever someone

1:06:11

does for them, then, you know, because I got the most extreme

1:06:15

gastric bypass that you can get, you don't anymore, so, not the

1:06:19

one that I do. They don't even do that procedure and you have to

1:06:21

be like dire straits for them to do that procedure for you. But I

1:06:26

think that you know, for one, I don't know about the ozimpic stuff,

1:06:29

you know sometimes because I've seen a lot of products come and then years

1:06:33

later it's like if you took such and such and this is you know,

1:06:36

you could be part of a class action lossuit. So I don't know,

1:06:41

but people are, they're next to it. And I don't fuck people like,

1:06:44

oh you need to lose it to NATURALID because that wasn't me either,

1:06:46

you know what I'm saying. So whatever you do to make yourself healthy or

1:06:51

you know, and do it, do it, you know, as long

1:06:55

as you're not hurting yourself and my thing also what my gastr bypass is.

1:07:00

I made sure I read up on it, but then after I realized once

1:07:05

I was living it how much, I didn't know how long did it take

1:07:10

you to lose all the weight when you're working now or was it just now?

1:07:14

Because I had I had a lot of complications, you know. So

1:07:18

I would say that from five hundred pounds, I was five hundred and eleven

1:07:23

pounds on my surgery date, so I must have been over five fifty because

1:07:26

I lost weight to get the surgery. So I would say I lost probably

1:07:30

the first two hundred pounds, well, I lost it probably in like four

1:07:34

days. What yep, the first two hundred pounds I lost on like four

1:07:39

days. And then from there it's just maybe he would have had her.

1:07:46

You can't laugh a little bit. It started to come off quickly, twenty

1:07:53

Like even before I left the hospital. I think I was like thirty pounds

1:07:56

down and like no no bullets, like four days because I was only in

1:07:59

Georgia for like four days post surgery, So I lost like thirty pounds then,

1:08:03

yeah, and then but it was unhealthy weight. It was like you

1:08:06

know, my my bones men and everything. I wasn't holding anything. But

1:08:12

but now I'm good. I'm good. Now you know you ever had any

1:08:15

weight issues? No? Yeah, well take it as a blessing. I

1:08:19

mean, can you get the out of here? When you're looking and mirror,

1:08:28

do you see a beautiful girl? I do, but I have,

1:08:30

we all have. Our things would change? Really, do you have any

1:08:33

other challenge? Like everything else you do we don't know about. So you

1:08:38

do play piano leader? So I was a flyer. They tore I like

1:08:44

tore my rotator cuff because they dropped me. But it wasn't It was like

1:08:47

very like we were not safe. We were doing college. So is your

1:08:53

rotator cuff? Did it held up something? I noticed you slouched to this

1:08:58

side? Oh? Really? Yeah, you're so rude. What No,

1:09:02

No, I'm just saying because like even when you when you sing, I

1:09:05

can tell like yeah, like you, I can't tell you're serious or not.

1:09:10

No, I'm saying because I have a torn rotator cuff from what fake

1:09:15

fake is working out. So this one is torn torn and this one is

1:09:21

a little bit not as bad. But I can tell the favorite that have

1:09:26

you ever noticed with comedians they'll hold the mic and look at Dave Chappelle,

1:09:30

look at Joe Rogan, guys that hold the mic their shoulder. That that

1:09:34

Mike's shoulder is up just a little bit interesting. Yeah, and I know

1:09:39

you keep trying to catch it, but you can't. Like it's Sam,

1:09:41

I'm not Yeah you are. I'm just playing look at hey man every time

1:09:50

now she and I'm just joking. So don't take this out of here with

1:09:54

you know what I'm saying, don't be at the house or looking in your

1:09:57

mirror. But you like one of those people that can just I know a

1:10:01

few people like you, and you can just go straight into a lie and

1:10:03

just have people still not lie jokes. Well you're it's a lie to tell

1:10:10

a joke because liars lie jokes. Joke. Okay, so it's a joke.

1:10:15

But you're one of those people that can. Nobody knows, well,

1:10:18

at least for me at this point, I don't know whether you're telling the

1:10:21

truth or lie or joking whatever. Man, Okay, get out of here

1:10:28

anyway. Yeah, they don't pick up that pie our dog? No,

1:10:34

that was an I know I'm going to be did they even have a dog,

1:10:44

Yeah, we have a dog. But you don't write, but you get I did get a dog and send it home to Indiana. But okay,

1:10:51

here, stop talking to you. Right, So you had a dog

1:11:00

and you sent it home to Indiana because your schedule got busy. Listen,

1:11:06

And it was during COVID one day, one night, I was at the

1:11:09

studio. I was depressed. I wanted dog, so I got one.

1:11:11

Had it for like six months. I lived downtown. She hated it.

1:11:15

At one point I got so busy I could not take care of her anymore. So I flew home to Indiana with her. Now she lives in the

1:11:20

country with my mom my dad. So she's good. She's happy. I

1:11:25

do not I think she would be so mad and getting out downtown and living

1:11:28

a life for like prostitution. And she saw it all and yeah, it's

1:11:34

a hard it is, especially for dogs as needles all over the ground,

1:11:38

Like seriously, it's bad. Okay, Now she goes outside. But do

1:11:43

you like dogs? I love dogs? Do what other animals? All animals?

1:11:45

I'm an animal lover. Okay. If a dog in a pie cost

1:11:50

had a race, which one do you think would win? A dog?

1:11:53

And what if a dog and a pie cost Just say what now? If

1:11:57

a dog in a pie cost had a race in a pie cost. If

1:12:00

a dog and a pie cast, what's that? What a pie cast?

1:12:03

About eight bucks? Like a joke? What's that? Andre? What's that

1:12:13

comedian that does the show where that he just confuses the guest? Oh wait,

1:12:17

the one that I watched that you won't watch with me? One?

1:12:23

Yes, I feel like I'm on his show right now. Don't do that

1:12:26

because then my wife gonna get me she flies off, the fall from the

1:12:29

ceiling or something. Stop. Okay, So you love dogs? Yes,

1:12:39

alrighty? What about horses? I grew up with a horse horses behind my

1:12:45

house. So if you're driving down the street and you see a horse to

1:12:49

your right and a dog to your left. You drive down the street,

1:12:53

you see a horse to your right a dog to your left, you had

1:12:59

to which one? What would you hit first? If you would probably survive?

1:13:04

Right? So, if you saw a horse to your right, how

1:13:08

fast dog to your left? This is the real question. How fast am

1:13:11

I going? Let's say you're going let's say thirty miles per hour? If

1:13:15

you see a dog to your horse to your just trying to give me canceled

1:13:18

dog to your left? What do you hit first? I think if I

1:13:21

had to hit one, I think the smartest option would be to hit I

1:13:28

hate this right, I'm just asking if I had horse? Is to know

1:13:33

what I'm saying. If there was a horse to your right, Oh,

1:13:36

I hit none of them because there's nothing in front of me. No,

1:13:39

no, no, I'm saying you had to. Can you tell me the

1:13:43

answer? No, because they don't know that. I'm just asking you, if there is a horse to your right, dog to your left, which

1:13:50

one would you hit first? Like? You you shwivel. You gotta control

1:13:55

which, dude, so I have to hit one? Do you like? What do you hit first? No? He's laughingly thinking he would hit Yeah,

1:14:04

what would you hit? For real? If there was a dog,

1:14:10

If there was a horse to your right, a dog to your left,

1:14:13

I would say, I want to tell you, okay, alright, is

1:14:16

this a riddle? Like is there a right answer? Is there is a

1:14:19

right answer? Is there an answer that's gonna make me feel like an idiot?

1:14:25

You guys, I don't know what the answer is. I mean if

1:14:29

okay, So I'll ask you, if there's a dog to your left, horse to your right, what do you hit first? But why would you

1:14:35

hit one? Why would you if you're if there's on the sides of it.

1:14:39

As a human being, I would hit the brakes first. Your song.

1:14:44

This is seriously annoying. I've heard that before. Are you think the

1:14:49

horse? Because I was going to hit the horse? Because I was going

1:14:54

to hit the horse because it's bigger and it's not going to die thirty miles

1:14:56

for hours. Jackson called me the R word when you could you know what

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sex in their room. Man, when your windows not tinted and you don't

1:15:36

have your blinds closed to your room, what happened? So there was a

1:15:40

Travis Scott concert going down at this I guess venue. I think it was

1:15:44

an outdoor venue, and you know you got the buildings next to it. So one of the buildings next it had a room right there with the windows

1:15:50

completely opened, and this couple was on their bed smashing having sex right there

1:15:55

for everybody to see. Wow, I trip out to When you go to

1:15:58

like Las Vegas or something and you see those, you're like, damn,

1:16:00

I wonder if anybody can see end. Yeah, man, you know what I mean. Sometimes you walk towards her to open the blinds, linking and

1:16:05

oh yeah, man. I remember one time I went to the blinds like

1:16:08

that. Yeah yeah, And it was bad man, somebody. So I

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