Out of Gauge, Ep. 3: Chris Elsner, associate director, Executive Briefing Services, IHS Markit, discusses how the unfolding energy transition is affecting investment decisions in the oil and gas industry, and the implications of this for the project cargo sector.

Out of Gauge is the JOC Breakbulk & Project Cargo Conference podcast series hosted by IHS Markit Senior Editor Janet Nodar. Episodes provide excerpts and insights from key presentations at this year's virtual event, and share a taste of what you can expect in New Orleans in 2022.