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S1: E1 - The Perfect Husband

Released Thursday, 28th April 2022
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S1: E1 - The Perfect Husband

S1: E1 - The Perfect Husband

S1: E1 - The Perfect Husband

S1: E1 - The Perfect Husband

Thursday, 28th April 2022
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0:00

This podcast discusses sexual assault.

0:02

Please take care while listening. I

0:06

want to share a story of a real life

0:08

fairy tale gone horribly wrong, A

0:11

cautionary tale about a marriage so filled

0:13

with betrayal and deceit that had set

0:15

off a path of destruction that people are still

0:17

recovering from. My

0:19

name is Andrea Gunning and I'm a podcast producer

0:22

in Philadelphia. In the summer of twenty

0:24

nineteen, I had just wrapped up a project when I

0:26

met a fellow producer, Jennifer

0:28

face In. She pitched a story

0:31

she thought was compelling enough to make something

0:33

of, and it turns out

0:35

it was her own story. No information

0:38

this morning about a cob County teacher in jail.

0:40

Spencer Harron, was arrested Friday at

0:43

his home in Ackworth. Harron is currently

0:45

in the cop County Jail on a fifty five thousand

0:47

dollar bond. Spencer

0:50

was Jennifer's husband of seven years. Twenty

0:52

years after dating in college, the stars seem

0:55

to align and they reconnected when

0:57

they decided to get sirious. Jennifer moved

0:59

from la where she worked as a television

1:01

producer, to Acworth, Georgia, where

1:04

Spencer was a popular high school teacher.

1:06

He was also awarded Teacher of the Year

1:09

twice. We've learned his arrest

1:11

stems from an alleged three year sexual

1:13

relationship with a sixteen year

1:15

old female student, Investigators

1:18

saying The team says it started back in twenty sixteen

1:20

when he allegedly groped her. It all

1:22

happened on Kel High School property.

1:25

The school's website lists the forty eight year

1:27

old as the head of the career type department

1:29

and a coach. Jennifer was

1:33

blindsided. I

1:35

came home on June first, twenty

1:38

eighteen. Spence

1:43

didn't greet me. Instead,

1:45

he was sitting on the couch shaking his head.

1:49

It's all over. It's

1:51

all over. It's

1:53

all over. Nothing

1:57

could have been more shocking from this popular

2:00

teacher, respected coach, and

2:02

loving husband. The arrest

2:04

unlocked terrible secrets about

2:06

predatory behavior that went

2:08

against the image Spencer Herron fabricated

2:11

for years, the cheerful neighbor,

2:14

member of the Air National Guard. The

2:16

truth shook a community, devastated

2:20

his wife, and sent Spencer Herron

2:22

to prison. I'm

2:30

Andrea Gunning and this is

2:33

betrayal Episode

2:36

one. The Perfect Husband.

2:45

Spencer and I met at

2:47

college. I wanted

2:49

to be in video production and he

2:51

was the station manager. And

2:54

I'll never forget our first meeting. He

2:57

said, excuse me, do you know what time it?

3:00

And I said, oh, I don't wear a watch. She

3:02

said, oh, me either, And that

3:04

was kind of like the Inn and

3:09

I don't know, it was just one of those

3:11

things. We just connected right

3:13

away. He was a year

3:15

older than I was. In him being

3:17

the station manager, he

3:20

seemed so cool to me. I

3:23

remember I tried out for anchor that

3:25

semester and he didn't

3:27

choose me because he was afraid that

3:30

if he did, everybody would know that he liked

3:32

me. The

3:35

were college sweethearts, That's what we

3:37

were. We had so

3:39

much fun. He would

3:41

always tried to do surprises for me

3:43

or make a mixtape. Every

3:46

day when we would pass by each other in the

3:48

hallways, he would give me a note.

3:52

He was just very attentive and

3:55

he was very caring.

3:58

I'm Jeffrey Birch, and this is virgin

4:00

I'm her stepfather and I

4:02

am her mom. She

4:05

and spent stated in college and

4:08

she was absolutely in love with

4:10

him, and we loved him too.

4:13

I'm Karen Basin and I'm John

4:15

Basin. I'm Jen's father

4:18

and I'm Jennifer's stepmother. We

4:20

thought a lot of it. We thought he was a wonderful

4:22

young man. He had a great personality

4:25

and you know, just a real down to

4:27

earth person, very personable,

4:30

and michaelbl And a talented fellow.

4:32

I mean he was a musician,

4:34

and I mean he played trumpet

4:37

very good. Evidently Jennifer's

4:41

sister Christie. You know, when

4:44

people are in love, they just are beautiful

4:47

because they're themselves and someone

4:49

just totally accepts them for who they are, and they

4:51

just shine and they're beautiful. Like

4:54

I remember seeing my sister

4:56

and she was wearing a red winter coat.

5:00

She just looked so beautiful,

5:02

and it was because she

5:04

was just so in love. I

5:08

don't know when we started

5:10

calling him Saint Spen's, but there

5:12

were a few reasons why he was

5:15

wonderful to my sister. When he

5:17

got up, he was like, does anybody need anything,

5:19

or he would go get coffee for my

5:22

sister. He was polite

5:24

and engaged with my mom and

5:27

my grandparents. He was really

5:29

curious about everyone, and

5:31

he just didn't do anything wrong.

5:37

It was my senior year in college and

5:39

I wanted to go out and you know, enjoy

5:42

my friends and have fun. So

5:45

we broke up, still kept

5:47

in touch. I

5:49

think I can honestly say I

5:51

broke his heart and he was

5:53

very sad and

5:56

tried to get me back. And it

5:59

wasn't that there was an anything wrong. It was

6:01

just not the right time. So

6:05

we remained friends, but eventually

6:08

went our separate ways. My

6:10

grandmother was upset. She

6:12

couldn't believe it. She just thought

6:15

Spence was perfect. She thought

6:17

we were going to get married after school. My

6:20

sister cried, She

6:23

was like, how could you leave this

6:26

great, perfect guy.

6:28

You know, a lot of people can't understand, but

6:31

at the time, that's just how

6:33

I felt. I wanted

6:36

to explore. We

6:38

dated for a year and a half and

6:42

it was one of those relationships

6:44

where you realized

6:47

what a good one looks like. She

6:50

took her communication degree, She got into

6:52

radio and was

6:55

on the air in Minneapolis. From

6:58

there, she decided that she

7:00

wanted to see if she could get a producing

7:03

job in California. She

7:05

just decided, I'm going to la and I'm gonna

7:08

find my mark. Spencer and

7:10

Jennifer stayed in touch for a while, Like

7:12

a lot of couples, in college. They eventually

7:15

lost touch and started their own lives.

7:18

Jen was on a path, so

7:21

we lost touch after that for

7:23

a long time. I

7:25

think partly because he was married and

7:28

had kids, and I wanted to respect

7:30

that and those boundaries in

7:32

that relationship. Jennifer

7:34

was ambitious. She built an impressive

7:37

resume and reputation as a talented

7:39

reality show producer and was

7:41

even nominated for three Emmy

7:43

Awards. You

7:48

are a Foot to enter the courtroom of Judge

7:50

Judith Schindler. She also

7:53

worked for Judge Judy.

7:56

In fact, when was nominated

7:59

for a time Emmy, we got

8:01

to go to New York to walk the red carpet.

8:05

After a few years with Judy, Jennifer

8:08

made her way from daytime to Primetime

8:14

Tonight.

8:19

She ended up getting a job with

8:22

Extreme Makeover Home Edition with

8:24

Ty Pennington, so she went all over

8:27

the country. Jen was making

8:29

her mark in the industry. She

8:31

could go from Judge Judy to Home Makeovers

8:34

to the Craziness at the Beach. One

8:37

of the ones that I was shocked about was she was

8:39

doing Jersey Shore. That's

8:41

what Jennifer excels at is being

8:43

able to get along with everybody,

8:45

keep peace, amongst everybody,

8:49

manage their different personalities and

8:51

then produce a great show. That's

8:54

what she's good at. Well, Jennifer

8:56

was building an impressive resume. Spencer

8:59

had built a different life back in Georgia.

9:03

Spence got married, had three

9:05

great kids, and for

9:09

many years he was the

9:11

stay at home parent who took care

9:13

of those kids. Kevin,

9:16

Spence's best friend, describe

9:18

Spence as trustworthy and loyal.

9:21

He's funny, very

9:23

charismatic. He came from a big family,

9:26

so you never had much like

9:28

in terms of physical possessions and

9:31

stuff, so we always seemed like a simple

9:33

person. My name is Rod and

9:37

I've known Spencer since probably

9:41

nineteen eighty seventy sixth

9:43

grade. Rod and Spencer bonded

9:45

over shared interests. Our high school

9:47

was pretty small. There was probably one

9:50

hundred and fifty people in the graduating class. Sloth

9:52

like that. I think we were both always

9:54

top students in top popularity.

9:56

I would think Spencer grew up in

9:58

Avondale Estates, twenty minutes east

10:00

of Atlanta. It's kind of confused. Well,

10:03

Spence's real father, Spence's

10:05

real mother. They had this other couple

10:08

that was good friends, and both

10:10

couples I guess you could say he's blew it up

10:12

and married each other. And

10:15

so Spence has step

10:18

brothers, real brothers and brothers,

10:21

and it was a bunch of It's a

10:23

little confusing, but Spence was part

10:25

of a big blended family. There

10:27

were six boys altogether. Well,

10:35

Jennifer was living her best life in La

10:37

Spence was living in Georgia as a well

10:39

regarded video production teacher. Julia

10:43

Sultziak was one of Spencer's students

10:45

over a decade ago. She still

10:47

has fond memories. My name

10:49

is Julius. I graduated from

10:52

cal High School in twenty ten. I'm

10:54

going to refer to him as coach Haarn if

10:56

that's okay. I've never actually called

10:58

him Spencers, So everyone called him

11:00

co chairn because he was the soccer

11:03

coach. He coached girls

11:05

soccer. Coachaen was

11:07

my high school video productions teacher,

11:10

my junior year and senior year high

11:12

school. Everyone who had him

11:14

loved him. He was the fun

11:16

class, the fun teacher, the fun

11:19

program. You got to be on the announcements,

11:22

you know, you got to work on these cool projects. When

11:24

Spencer was thirty seven, he joined the

11:26

Air National Guard and became part of

11:28

the band. He was the oldest

11:30

person in his boot camp class and kind

11:32

of played the role of dad there. And

11:36

then, out of the blue, twenty

11:39

years later, Jen's first love

11:41

reached out to her on social media. I

11:43

get a message from him on Facebook.

11:46

He was planning his college reunion

11:50

and saw me like a

11:52

photo or something, so he reached

11:54

out to me, Hey, how are

11:56

you, how's it going, what

11:58

are you doing? He told me that he

12:00

had kept up with my career and

12:03

knew I was in LA And honestly,

12:06

the first thing that I wrote to him

12:08

back was are you still

12:10

married? Because I'm

12:13

not going to get involved with somebody

12:15

that's married. That's

12:17

just not me. He

12:20

wrote me back immediately said we

12:22

split up four years ago. Great.

12:26

Well, then he says, so,

12:28

I know you travel a lot for work. Are

12:31

you by any chance going to be in

12:33

New York City in December, which

12:36

was a couple months away. He

12:38

said, I'm going to be there with the Decca group

12:41

from school. I said, no,

12:43

you know, I don't usually work in New York. Then

12:47

I go to the movies with my sister two

12:49

days later and run into my old

12:51

boss from Extreme Makeover Home Edition,

12:54

who says what are you doing right now? And

12:56

I said nothing. I was in between jobs at the time.

12:58

He said, okay, I need to fly to New York

13:01

and you need to help me out with this show.

13:04

Said okay, great, I'll do it. Hopped

13:08

on a plane and flew out there.

13:11

So I emailed Spence and said,

13:13

hey, guess what, I'm here. I'm

13:16

going to be here for about a month, and he said,

13:18

great, I would love to see you when

13:20

you're here, and maybe you could even come

13:23

and speak to the students. So

13:25

I agreed to do that. One

13:28

afternoon, rushed home from work

13:34

changed try to look as

13:36

cute as possible. You

13:39

know, it's December now in New York

13:42

and hard to get a taxi at that time of night,

13:44

so I was running late. The

13:46

taxi drops me off about two blocks

13:49

from the hotel because I just figured I

13:51

can get there faster if I walk.

13:54

So I walk in there and

13:57

he's kind of leaning up against the wall,

14:00

all kind of cool, and

14:02

he sees me, and I think both of our faces

14:05

just light up and gives

14:07

me a big hug, and I

14:10

just I remember thinking, wow, he

14:12

looks really good. I

14:15

just I got butterflies. I

14:17

was excited to see him again. And

14:20

then he and I

14:23

went and walked around New York

14:26

and talked and

14:29

learned about each other again, and we

14:31

sat in this cute little

14:34

speakeasy bar. I

14:37

noticed his sleeve kind of came

14:39

up on his jacket, and I saw

14:41

he had tattoos. And

14:43

now I'm not a tattooed person, but for

14:45

some reason, this was so sexy

14:47

to me. You know, now he was cool

14:50

and everything. I remembered, everything

14:53

I remembered. The two

14:56

of them walked the city all night

14:58

long, just talking and talking and talking,

15:01

and that's when they said they just fell

15:03

in love all over again. I was

15:05

on cloud nine. He walked

15:07

me back to my hotel room. Yes,

15:09

he came inside. No, I don't

15:11

usually do that, but

15:15

it was Spence, and I

15:17

always felt safe with Spence. I

15:21

asked him if he could stay, and he said

15:23

no, I have to go back because he had

15:25

to go back to his student's And the next

15:27

morning I woke up and I called my best friend

15:29

crying because I

15:32

was so sad that I may never see

15:34

him again. I really thought

15:36

that was it, and something

15:38

in me was really sad

15:42

about that. But

15:44

that's not what happened. The

15:47

whole New York trip was serendipitous.

15:50

After twenty years apart, Jen

15:52

and Spencer were reconnected, and

15:54

this time Spencer was

15:56

not going to lose her. He continued

16:00

to pursue me and text me and call

16:02

me from Atlanta

16:04

to LA. We would be up all night

16:07

on the phone.

16:10

So she went back to LA. He

16:12

went back to Atlanta area

16:15

and they continue with their phone

16:17

conversations. He

16:19

had called us and said

16:21

that he wanted to marry Jennifer, and he asked

16:24

for permission. We said,

16:26

we've always felt like your part of the family. You

16:28

know, you don't need to ask us, you just need to

16:30

ask her. I said, the only thing

16:33

we ask of you is

16:35

that you go to LA and

16:37

you visit Jennifer and you see what kind

16:39

of lifestyle that she was living,

16:42

because she was very,

16:44

very successful in her career,

16:47

very successful financially,

16:50

I'm very established. And

16:52

so he said, okay, he would do that because

16:55

he was going to be asking her to possibly

16:57

move to this small little down

17:00

in Georgia, pulling her away from

17:02

LA. And that was a concern

17:05

that we had too. Would she be able to

17:07

adjustice that fair to her as that going to affect

17:09

her career, So

17:15

we re met in December twenty

17:18

eleven. We made the decision

17:21

pretty quickly that I would move out

17:23

there, and I didn't mind doing that. I

17:25

mean, it meant giving up a

17:27

lot. My career was doing

17:29

great. I'd really established

17:32

myself, which in hindsight

17:34

is a good thing because I was able to move to

17:37

Atlanta and keep working. But

17:39

his kids were there and that was important

17:42

to him, and being a stepchild myself,

17:45

it was important to me that he

17:47

stay as close to the kids as he could.

17:51

So I decided I would

17:53

move there. I packed

17:55

up my whole apartment and then

17:58

he flew out and we

18:00

drove my car across the country. Our

18:03

first stop was Vegas. He

18:06

gave me this booklet and in

18:09

it were all these photos of the two

18:11

of us, some of them from

18:13

college and then some from

18:15

New York and just you know, when

18:17

we had seen each other since. And

18:20

at the very end was a picture of

18:23

my grandmother's ring that he had

18:25

gotten from my mom.

18:29

He got down on one knee and he asked

18:31

me to marry him, and I

18:33

was so excited. I

18:35

wanted to be able to remember exactly

18:37

what it felt like and what

18:40

it sounded like, so

18:43

I said, can you ask

18:46

me again, and he

18:48

just laughed and he asked

18:51

me again, and of course I said yes.

18:54

It was everything that I

18:56

could have wanted. It was like

18:58

a movie, all of the thought

19:00

and effort Spencer put into their engagement.

19:04

She waited so long for love.

19:08

They were so sweet together. Like he was

19:11

very demonstrative with his

19:13

affection towards her. You know,

19:15

he would say, look at Jenn, Look how cute she looks

19:17

today. He was always very proud to talk

19:20

about her and about her accomplishments and things

19:22

like that. He would walk by her and just kiss her on

19:24

the top of the head, you know, just was very

19:26

sweet. And their little love story was very

19:28

sweet, and they loved to tell it. She

19:30

was traveling, you know, producing a show and

19:33

coming back, he would always walk

19:35

in and, you know, hug her and

19:37

say, so glad you're home.

19:40

Dinner's friend, Danielle.

19:43

I mean, he would just say, like, hey,

19:45

wife, you know, and he was so proud of

19:47

that. He was such a

19:49

doting husband. Every morning he would

19:52

leave me a note by the coffee

19:54

pot. Every single

19:56

morning for six

19:58

seven years, he

20:01

would text me during the day.

20:03

I'd never worried about where he was

20:06

or what he was doing. I

20:09

really really thought

20:12

we were living a fairy tale. Every

20:15

time the clock would turn on eleven eleven,

20:18

I would make a wish, and ever

20:20

since Spence and I got back together in New York,

20:24

the wish was, I

20:27

hope Spence and I have a beautiful,

20:29

long life together. When the

20:31

bottom drops out, you usually

20:34

don't see it coming, and

20:36

Jennifer never did. I

20:39

came home on June first, twenty

20:42

eighteen, and Spence

20:45

did and greet me instead.

20:48

He was sitting on the couch in the living room

20:52

just shaking his head. So

20:54

I was joking around with him because he

20:56

didn't jump up and say wife,

20:59

welcome back. And

21:01

I walked over to him and he just kept

21:04

shaking his head. It's all

21:06

over, it's all over, it's

21:08

all over. I

21:12

kept expecting him

21:14

to say, oh, just kidding, because

21:17

what could be that wrong that he would

21:19

be feeling this way.

21:23

He slid a piece of paper to me.

21:26

I just kind of glanced at it, trying

21:28

to figure out what it was, and

21:31

it said search Warren on top. I

21:35

saw the words sexual assault

21:38

and student. Police

21:45

arrested kel High School teacher Spencer Harron

21:47

on Friday at his home in Atworth. Investigators

21:50

say he faces three counts of sexual

21:52

assault. Imagine seeing

21:55

that piece of paper, the search

21:57

Warren, and knowing that everything in your

21:59

life was out to change. He

22:02

was charged with sexual assault

22:04

with one of his own students. It

22:07

had started when she was a sophomore in

22:09

high school. I

22:12

got up and stood in front

22:14

of him and said, is

22:16

this true? He

22:19

said yes, he

22:22

said it happened three times dispenses.

22:26

The last person that I would

22:28

have ever guessed would have taken

22:30

advantage of a kid, And

22:33

I think anybody else that knew him would have

22:35

said the same thing. To

22:38

find out that he cheated

22:40

on me, not with

22:43

a woman, but with a sixteen

22:46

year old girl, it

22:49

is so hard to

22:52

understand that I

22:56

just started pacing back and forth, telling

23:00

him he ruined everything. He

23:03

knew how much marriage meant to

23:05

me, He

23:07

knew what it meant to me. I

23:10

thought I knew

23:12

what it meant to him.

23:15

I set across from him at that point because

23:17

I didn't want to be near him,

23:20

just trying to make sense of what

23:23

just happened. In realizing

23:25

that life as I

23:27

knew it would never be the same. The

23:31

future that we planned

23:34

was gone. It

23:38

couldn't be true. Not her

23:40

husband, the nicest, kindest

23:43

man in the world. A predator.

23:46

Not possible, except

23:49

it was possible. It happened.

23:52

It didn't take too long before

23:54

I saw two Cobb County

23:57

police officers drive past our house.

24:01

I knew they were on their way back for Spence.

24:04

They had already been there once with the search

24:06

warrant and busted down our front door.

24:11

They took a bunch of his stuff, his computers,

24:15

hard drives, and a

24:17

pair of his underwear. All

24:20

Spence could talk about was killing

24:22

himself at that point. So

24:25

I sat down on the coffee table

24:28

right in front of him where he was sitting on the couch,

24:30

and I just begged him

24:32

not to do anything stupid.

24:36

Her life was upended, Her

24:39

husband was sitting across from her talking

24:41

about suicide. It was

24:43

all so scary and so much

24:45

to digest. Jen

24:48

felt conflicted by a feeling of obligation

24:50

to Spence because of the vows they

24:52

took. Jennifer repeat

24:55

after me, I, Jennifer,

24:58

I, Jennifer say the Spencer,

25:01

take the Spencer to be my wedded

25:03

husband, To be my wedded husband.

25:06

I wanted him to know that somebody would

25:08

be there for him. From this day we

25:10

were married. You're supposed

25:12

to stick by

25:15

your spouse for better or worse,

25:18

for better, for worse, till

25:20

death do us part, till death do us

25:22

part. The

25:26

cops came. I

25:28

opened up the door and looked

25:31

across to Spence and was so relieved

25:33

when I saw him walking into the foyer,

25:37

because if he

25:39

had run, I don't know what

25:41

would have happened. But he

25:44

turned around. He let

25:46

them put the cuffs on him.

25:49

Even after seeing the words sexual

25:51

assault and student on

25:54

the search warrant, Jennifer

25:56

still needed to hear the police say it.

25:59

I said, what are you arresting him for? They

26:03

looked at him like, is it okay if

26:05

we tell her? And

26:07

he yells out no, don't

26:09

tell her anything, which

26:13

is weird because he'd already admitted

26:17

what he had done. I

26:20

guess he was still hoping to hide

26:22

stuff. They

26:24

walked him out of the house. I shut

26:27

the door and I couldn't

26:29

watch them put him in the back of

26:31

the car. And

26:34

the four year was the last time I've

26:36

seen him. Jennifer

26:38

was trying to process what had just happened.

26:42

Unfortunately, what she learned that

26:44

day was only the tip

26:46

of the iceberg. I

26:49

was on a walk one morning and I just

26:51

thought, I need to call Jennifer. When

26:54

I got home, I called her. She picked

26:57

up the phone and she was like in hysterics

27:00

and I was like, what's wrong, and

27:02

she's like, they took Spencer away.

27:05

She wasn't shock. It was like

27:08

Spence of all people, Spence,

27:12

Saint Spence. Jennifer

27:14

wasn't a problem solving

27:16

mode. I think because I was

27:19

distant from it, I could get into problem

27:21

solving mode. My thought

27:23

was, if it's a student, it's going

27:25

to get around really fast. Then my

27:27

thought was, oh god, the kids,

27:31

they worshiped their father, and that was

27:33

my thought. I was like, oh my god, do they know?

27:35

How are they going to find out social media these days?

27:38

He needs to take down his social media

27:40

like all of this stuff. My sister

27:42

called and said, people are making comments.

27:45

You've got to go in there and take

27:47

down his account. I had

27:50

never been in his account before. I

27:52

never looked at his phone, his text,

27:55

his computer, his Facebook,

27:57

nothing. Ever, I

28:00

trusted him with every

28:03

piece of my being. Never

28:06

ever, ever would I have snooped.

28:10

But I knew Christy was right. So

28:13

somehow I got into his Facebook

28:15

account, which got

28:17

me into his email to

28:19

say what she learned next with shocking would

28:22

be an understatement. The

28:25

student, well, she was one of dozens

28:27

of affairs that Spencer had been carrying

28:29

on for years, and

28:31

he was soliciting photos from these women.

28:34

I only had to scroll down one row

28:37

before the pictures of

28:39

all these naked women were

28:41

showing up on his computer, woman

28:46

after woman after woman.

28:49

I literally didn't know what was happening.

28:53

Spence would never want women

28:55

to send him pictures like this. He

28:58

wasn't like that. He was not.

29:00

No one wants to think that the person they love

29:03

that they're married too, has a secret

29:06

life. Jen had to face

29:08

the hard truth her

29:10

husband had betrayed her, not

29:13

once, but every single

29:15

day of their relationship. Through

29:19

this podcast, Jen's about to go

29:21

on a journey of discovery she never

29:24

could have imagined on

29:28

this season of Betrayal, Jen's

29:30

going to talk to the sexual saw victim, who

29:32

is an adult now. The first thing he said

29:35

to me was, I've never done this with a

29:37

student. I've never felt this way

29:39

about anyone. It's

29:41

because I love you that we're doing those.

29:43

There were dozens of affairs simultaneously,

29:46

Some women she knew personally

29:50

like this. One put

29:52

this because it's not very

29:54

kind towards myself. I was

29:57

being used, but I really thought

29:59

that he loved me and even Spencer

30:02

himself. This is a direct pay call

30:04

from an inmate at the Cherokee

30:07

County Jail, Georgia. The

30:09

lies, affairs,

30:11

shame, the broken marriage,

30:13

and stolen innocence. We're

30:15

going to talk about it all on

30:17

Betrayal. If

30:22

you'd like to reach out to the Betrayal team,

30:25

email us at Betrayal Pod at gmail

30:27

dot com. That's Betrayal Pod

30:30

at gmail dot com.

30:32

Betrayal is a production of Glass Podcasts,

30:35

a division of Glass Entertainment Group, in partnership

30:37

with iHeart Podcasts. The show

30:39

was executive produced by Nancy Glass and Jennifer

30:41

Facon, hosted and produced by

30:43

me Andrea Gunning, written and

30:45

produced by Carry Hartman, also

30:48

produced by Ben Fetterman. Our

30:50

iHeart team is Ali Perry and Jessica Crinchek.

30:53

Special thanks to voice actor Todd Gans. Sound

30:56

editing and mixing done by Mount DeVecchio. Betrayal's

30:59

theme was composed by Oliver Bain's music

31:02

library provided by my Music and

31:04

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