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This week on Best Friend Energy. Sometimes

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somebody brings a badass title. Sometimes

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somebody has like a cool melody.

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But writing by yourself is where it gets real weird because

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there's nowhere to hide and there's nobody

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to blame it on. You know what

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I mean? Do you get scared to share it? Like even

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at the level you're at? Yeah, it feels even more vulnerable on

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a song you wrote by yourself.

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Hi guys, I'm Clea. And I'm Joanna.

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And this is Best Friend Energy. Today

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we have such an exciting show. We got

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to chat with country music superstar

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Miranda Lambert. Can you even

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believe this? I can't. Like she let us

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in and everything. I know. I

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know, it's crazy. We met her at her bar and restaurant, Casa Rosa,

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right here in Nashville. It was so cool. Very

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cool. The food was so good. She gave us cocktails.

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Joanna got a virgin cocktail. I did, it was delicious. It

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was like, what a time. No, I loved it. I know,

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I just wanted to stay. I was like, oh, we're done? No, I know. Can

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we keep going? That's right. Yeah, I

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wanted to go home with her. All right, Miranda has won every single music

1:05

award under the sun. She's the most decorated

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artist in Academy of Country Music Award history.

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She was ACM Entertainer of the Year in 2022. She's

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a three-time Grammy winner. Like

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this is crazy. She's a three-time Grammy winner. She

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has a new book out called Y'all Eat Yet? And

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I don't say it correctly. No, you don't. No,

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I don't, but that's fine. That is my Los Angeles

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interpretation of Y'all Eat Yet? No.

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Nope. No. You

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guys eat yet? Yep, just Y'all Eat Yet. Y'all

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Eat Yet? And it's a fabulous recipe book. It

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has, I mean, the deviled eggs, I can't make them fast enough. And it's just

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really fun because it's also filled with just stories from

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her childhood, her mom, her grandma.

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I know. And we talk about all of it. Oh,

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and by the way, we were her first

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podcast. I know. Thank God

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I didn't know that the night before. Me, I think we

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wouldn't have slept. I

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know, and I was already up thinking about Taylor Swift and Joel.

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You wouldn't have had time. Thank God we only found out

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one minute before. Literally a minute before. Literally,

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Miranda sat down and she goes,

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I've never done a podcast. You're like, oh my God.

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All right, today we are so

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beyond excited. We're talking to country music

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superstar

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Miranda Lambert. It's

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a thrill. It really is. And we're

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in your own space, which is so

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fabulous, a bar, restaurant. I mean, we're recording from

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Casa Rosa here in Nashville. And

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I just wanna give, I wanna list just a few

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of your incredible help. I know, I

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know, but I'm gonna list some of them because everyone needs to

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remember and know this. So first of all,

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you are the most decorated female

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artist in the Academy of Country Music

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Award history. That's insane. That is insane.

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It is insane. So let's just start with that. You

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were ACM entertainer of the year in 2022, three-time

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Grammy winner. You have the Las Vegas residency

3:39

happening now and a brand new book out

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called Y'all Eat Yet. And I have it. Is

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that how you say it? In my mind, Miranda

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should say it. I went back to this. Y'all eat yet?

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Y'all eat yet? I'm from Los Angeles. I'm like, you

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can't say it. I probably didn't nail it, but

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thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, thank

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you. And an honor and really excited to do this.

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Come in. Welcome to Catherosa. For everyone.

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the taco smell

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in here is insane. Like my mouth is watering,

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I'm gonna have a taco the second we're done here. Get

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the gringo, it's the best. Okay, the gringo taco,

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you heard it from Miranda. What was your like

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vision for creating this space? Well, it's

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the first girl bar on

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Broadway. So I was like, ooh, that's

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pressure, we need to like step it up. So I

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went and saw everybody else's, which I had been to

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before, but didn't quite remember. Cause when you're on Broadway,

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you don't remember. For sure, that kind of gives to

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be on Broadway. But I really

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was so much a stickler of like having

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that creative freedom in

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here. You know, like the company

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that we work with are great. And I just was like,

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this is gotta have a fitment in touch. I

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mean, we're the bachelor at Capitol. And

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I just felt like I really wanted the girls

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to feel like they had a place that really catered

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to them. You know what I mean? Totally. And

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the guys are smart, they know what the girls are. So that brings everybody.

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Right. It is pink in here, there's

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memorabilia all over the place. It's just

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amazing. It's a rooftop bar. Yeah, it's fun and beautiful.

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And we're here on a gorgeous day. So we've been enjoying

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the entire location. Okay, so

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your book, Y'all Eat Yet? Again, is

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that proper? No, I want

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proper. I only say it, not you.

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It's so amazing cause it's not just

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recipes. It's a real glimpse into

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your childhood growing up, your family life. You

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grew up in Texas. I did. And what

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from Texas did you infuse into

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this book? Well, all of it. All

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of it. The whole

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world of Texas. You feel Texas in it. Yeah.

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I mean, if you've known anyone in Texas, we're very proud. But

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this is, it's really Southern hospitality

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at its finest. But this book is like, I

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grew up with two generations of very

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strong women. My grandma and her best friends

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who we called the Y'all Y'all. Gen one. And

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then my mom and her best friends, her Y'all

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Gen two. Her best friends are like my aunts. I was

5:47

raised by all of these ladies. And I feel

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like so lucky because especially

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with, not knowing them, but now

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I was

5:55

going to dive into the entertainment industry, which is, can

5:57

be rough, you know? I just learned so

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many. laugh lessons from two generations

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of very strong ladies and most

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of those lessons were over cocktails

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in the older generation, cigs and cocktails.

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And in the kitchen and like just

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you know being together and cooking together

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and I feel like I'm a storyteller I mean I write

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songs for a living and food tells so many stories

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too and this is just like a different way

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to bring those memories to life. And the

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book is so much fun too I mean obviously it's filled

6:27

with amazing recipes but it's also just has

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such a fun flair to it that you just want to dive in and

6:31

join the party. Right you actually want to read the

6:33

book. Yeah it's a sisterhood and I feel like everybody

6:36

has if they don't have it maybe this book will

6:38

inspire people to go find your circle

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but if a lot of us as women do we have

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circle of women that we really you know celebrate

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the high highs with and you know comfort each other

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during the lows and you know I feel

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like I just want this book to be an inspiration

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to people to remember that like

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take some time and also this book is like

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we're all a little bit classy a little bit trashy and

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we're fine with that and I feel like this book

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is like permission to be

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imperfect. I mean we live

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that way. Yeah no no

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no listen we are the one thing imperfect people

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like

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ever.

7:15

We can organize that's our one singular skill

7:17

other than that our lives are disaster. We're pretty I mean we're

7:19

just a mess. But it's okay to admit that and I love

7:22

I'd rather that I'd rather like some messiness

7:24

and some imperfections and

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I've been real honest about that in my music

7:29

my whole career I've been very transparent

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but I've never also haven't shared like

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a lot of these personal stories and

7:36

like the actual fun side of me doesn't come through

7:38

as much in my records as it does in this

7:41

form and I you know Holly Gleason is

7:43

she's a great friend and she's a great writer

7:46

and she helped me make sense of it because writing songs right

7:48

it's so different than writing a book. I

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can't well I wrote a book but I could never

7:52

write a song so I don't even understand

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how the song rating process like how does it even

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work? Well it's I

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don't know. I popped it down.

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I asked this to so many songwriters because

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I cannot imagine, I know you guys have

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rights, which is a new word that I discovered

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when we moved to Nashville. Everyone's like, oh, I'm going to a right. I'm

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like, I don't know what you're talking about. And so

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you sit down and are able to collaborate

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with all these other amazing songwriters. And

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I don't know, is there a whiteboard, post-it notes?

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Like what's happening? I think everybody's process is different,

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but a lot of times people just have a title. Now it's

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easy because we all bring our phones and our iPads

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or whatever. It's actually all in one place, but back

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in the day, it's like notebooks everywhere and record,

8:31

tape recorders. You come in with an idea

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and you're like, here's my idea, this is what I want to sing

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about. Can you help me? Like what are your thoughts?

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Yeah, sometimes somebody brings

8:40

a badass title. Sometimes somebody

8:43

has like a cool melody, but writing

8:45

by yourself is where it gets real weird because there's

8:48

nowhere to hide and there's nobody

8:50

to blame it on. Do

8:53

you get scared to share it? Like even at the level

8:55

you're at? I've been more vulnerable on a song you wrote

8:57

by yourself. My husband always

8:59

encouraged me to write by myself. On

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every record almost of my career, I've had a song

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that I wrote solely by myself, but

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it's just not as fun. Right, I understand. I

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mean, look it up, the collaboration. Collaboration, and

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also if something works, the celebration

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with friends is more fun. And it's just, yeah,

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I like both though. I mean, I really need

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to write by myself and it's just kind

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of a scary thought sometimes, but it's

9:21

a collaboration. I mean, somebody will sit down and be like, hey,

9:23

I had this title. Somebody said something the other day

9:25

that, actually Karen, our

9:27

mutual friend, Karen Fairchild, she

9:30

came to the house and we were working on our

9:33

bandwagon tour set list and we always work

9:36

over wine, that's just part of it. We

9:38

can't do a set list without drinking. That

9:40

wouldn't make any sense. And so

9:43

we were having wine and whatever and she lived

9:45

literally around the corner from me and

9:48

I was like, I don't want you to drive. We've

9:50

had a lot of wine. Our set list looks great tonight.

9:53

We'll see you tomorrow. And she was like, no,

9:55

I'm fine, whatever. And I was like, Karen, you're

9:57

too pretty for prison. And

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so I took it to the Love Junkies the next couple of

10:02

days I was writing with the Love Junkies, and I was like, Karen's

10:05

here, child, it's about this title, we should write it. So

10:07

it's a great title. I'm like, too pretty for

10:09

prison. It's a really good title. And

10:11

then, Marin Wurst and I sang it together.

10:13

So it's that one with the whole girl power moment.

10:16

But like, something like that, just something can spark

10:18

an idea. And I love the camaraderie with

10:20

the female country singers in Nashville.

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It's such an amazing community that I feel

10:25

like is so different than like being in LA and as an actor,

10:28

you know, like that kind of thing. Yeah, I don't know that world well.

10:30

And I don't think I'm in, I'm just so used

10:32

to the Nashville, Nashville, I always

10:34

tell people, cause so many people are moving here, but I'm like, it's still,

10:38

it's a big city with a small town feel. It's a little big

10:40

town. It is a little big town. I know,

10:42

and Karen Fairchild, if you all

10:44

don't know, is in the amazing band Little Big Town,

10:46

which I actually, the last time

10:48

I saw you perform was a year ago

10:51

in Charleston, with Little Big Town. Yeah.

10:53

So, which is an incredible story. Sure with them is one

10:55

of my friends. I mean, talk about collaboration. And

10:58

there's such good people. And friends that get to sing together,

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and we call it work. Right, I know. It's

11:02

amazing. We'll get to

11:04

touring and all that, but I think that you

11:07

do like just evoke Nashville and like

11:09

the essence of it and the camaraderie

11:11

of it and your relationships

11:13

with all of these amazing women. Is

11:16

there like a female

11:18

versus male thing in

11:20

Nashville in terms of country music? Do you guys

11:22

like band together and? I

11:24

feel like there's a lot of made

11:27

up stories and there's a lot of like conversations

11:30

about the females of Nashville. I mean,

11:33

I think that some of the boys are so supportive

11:35

and they've taken us all on tour. They've

11:37

loved us to death. They've written with us. They've cut

11:39

our songs. So I don't really believe that there's

11:41

all of that drama, but in

11:44

other hand, it is sometimes just

11:46

the facts or the facts and like on paper

11:48

and on radio and whatever, it's just not

11:51

equal. And so those are the

11:53

times where all the girls go, well, we know

11:55

how hard it is and we have different

11:57

problems. So we are on group. texts

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that only we know we should talk

12:02

about. They should never see the loud day of the public. But like,

12:05

you know what? You're pretty for prison. Exactly. We

12:07

don't want to do that. I think it's just cool that to

12:09

like, I mean, competition's great. I love

12:11

it. I love when someone's kicking ass and like, like

12:14

Lainey, I'm like, dang, right? I need to go kick some ass. You

12:16

know what I mean? It's good, but it's also support.

12:18

And like, how are you doing sister? Like, I

12:20

really feel like the female community of

12:23

country, in country music in Nashville is

12:25

very much more love

12:28

than anything else. Is there anybody else

12:30

that you would like, either in country

12:32

or not country to love to collaborate with? Like,

12:34

do you have a dream person in mind that you would be like, this

12:36

would be such a cool mashup. So many. Queen

12:39

B, obviously, Beyonce. But

12:42

you know, I made a new friend recently with

12:44

Avril Lavigne and I really enjoy getting to know

12:46

her. I love that. And like, just, we're

12:48

kind of the same age. I mean, she's like an icon

12:51

and we grew up in the same kind

12:53

of era and like started really

12:55

young. So we've sort of bonded over that. And

12:58

I'm hoping to do some collabs with her. I

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love that. That's amazing. I love

13:02

like the crossroads journey

13:05

of like two different styles of music. I know, that's coming

13:07

together. Really fun to listen to. Yeah. And

13:09

I feel like the genre, that whole genre

13:12

barrier, it's kind of doesn't exist

13:14

really anymore. And it kind of feels like old

13:16

school, like in the 70s where Waylon and Willy

13:18

were played on the same station as ZZ

13:20

Top and Creative Clearwater Revival, like it

13:22

doesn't, just good music. It can all go

13:24

together. There's room for everybody. That's right. As

13:27

long as it's great. Was there a song that growing

13:29

up, you're like, this is so inspirational

13:31

to me. And like that's stuck in your head. I

13:34

grew up in a house. My dad played a

13:36

guitar and wrote songs too. And he's kind of the one

13:38

that taught me. My mom is a huge music lover.

13:40

So it just, there's always music in our house. I

13:43

grew up in church. So a lot of it was the gospel

13:45

influence. And then my dad loved

13:47

singer songwriters, you know, Tyne

13:50

and Guy Clark and David

13:52

Allen Co. And so I grew up on that.

13:55

But then my mom loved like Aretha

13:57

and Soul. And so I feel like I had a

13:59

lot of fun. I had a good gauge of everything.

14:02

And then I was a 90s country junkie, like

14:05

everybody is. So I got

14:07

a little bit of everything. So I don't

14:09

know. I mean, when I think

14:11

of the career I wanted when I started this

14:13

journey, like in 19, when I met my manager,

14:15

Marion, we'd been together for 20 years. And

14:18

she's like, what career do you want? And I was like, Emmylou

14:22

and Dolly are the vibes. Like that's

14:24

everyone everywhere. But like longevity

14:27

and bigger than just the music. But

14:30

make it start with the music and end with the music.

14:32

You know what I mean? And just

14:35

using a platform for good to celebrate women,

14:37

in my case, rescue dogs. I

14:40

think if you get to a place and you have people

14:43

that are ready to listen to you, it's important

14:45

to like have a message about

14:47

something bigger than just, hey, I write songs

14:49

and here's a little ditty. It goes like this. You

14:52

know what I mean? Well, I love how much your

14:54

mom plays such an influence in your life. We

14:56

talk about our moms all the time on this podcast. My

14:58

mom actually counts so many times I talk about her. Roberta,

15:01

this one's for you. Hi, Roberta. So tell us

15:03

about your mom and the influence that she had

15:05

on you. Obviously her music tastes and all that,

15:07

but there's so much about her in this book. Yeah,

15:10

my mom is one of my best friends, except for

15:12

the teen years, which that doesn't

15:13

count. Oh sure, that doesn't count. We're

15:15

about to enter that with our daughters. And I'm like, I already am ready

15:17

not to count that.

15:18

15 to 20 kind of sucked. My daughter's

15:20

gonna go to a nunnery, so that's perfect. Sending

15:23

her off. That's very, that probably

15:25

should have been what I did. I

15:27

feel like my mom just taught me so much without

15:30

lecturing me or having to sit down.

15:32

She just, she led by example. And

15:35

I really, and so did her mom.

15:37

I mean, she grew up in a broken

15:39

family, but like everybody made

15:41

it work. They made something out of nothing. And she

15:44

learned a lot of things to do and

15:47

she learned a lot of things not to do. And so as a

15:49

mom herself, she took those lessons

15:51

and that really was such a

15:53

strong force in mine and my brother's life. And

15:56

the first of us she ever gave me when I was like getting to

15:58

like 17, I was like,

15:59

to be

16:00

a singer-songwriter, like I think I want to chase this. It

16:03

was getting time to like, the word college was

16:05

like not part of my career.

16:07

I was like that, anything but that. And

16:10

she said, you know, that's fine, but you need to know who you

16:12

are and stick with it. And that has carried

16:15

me through 20 years of the music

16:17

business. Like I always just

16:20

say true to my gut, say true to my root, because that

16:22

always like resonated with me

16:24

and it helped me ground.

16:27

You know what I mean? But she just made something out of nothing.

16:29

We grew up with no money. Like we were very poor.

16:31

My dad was police officer for a while and they were self-employed

16:34

and that crashed. So we had to kind of start over. And

16:36

I never felt like I was missing out

16:38

on anything, even though we didn't have money. I felt

16:40

like she made our house a home.

16:42

She still found a way to pay for a birthday

16:45

party or whatever. And I just, but

16:47

we were also taught like survival

16:50

and playing a garden if you're hungry. And you

16:52

know, my dad was a hunter. So like we lived

16:55

off the land literally when we were kids. And

16:57

I really cherish those

17:00

moments and those memories, especially

17:03

when things get crazy in my life.

17:05

You know, what do you think

17:07

is your mom's superpower maybe in and

17:10

out of the kitchen? I think it's her

17:12

positivity because she is one

17:15

of these like laugh at the party, like

17:18

always finds a reason to celebrate, always looks

17:20

at the bright side. My dad called her Pollyanna.

17:22

She's just

17:24

always ready to celebrate,

17:27

ready to

17:28

get shit done. Like she just, I

17:30

think her super power is her confidence

17:32

in her positivity. That is the super power. She's so

17:34

confident in who she is. And like watching

17:36

that growing up, my brother and I learned and

17:38

so is my dad. I mean, we just, they were very much

17:41

strong in who they were. And that

17:44

takes you so far, especially when you're like

17:46

young and your twenties are trying to figure it out. You

17:48

know, you get in a business like this

17:50

where there's people trying to sway you a hundred

17:53

ways and those

17:55

moments of like my dad was big

17:57

on character. Like he always talked about people's character.

18:00

And like how that's the most important thing and just

18:02

really like who are you at the root and who

18:04

are you at the core? Stay there because otherwise

18:06

you're lost forever. That's right. You know, you

18:08

need a north star you need like a center

18:11

for yeah We're going to take a quick break and

18:13

be right back with Miranda Lambert Clea

18:15

remember the days when our kids were diapers? Oh,

18:18

yes, I definitely remember keeping

18:20

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Okay, we are back with Miranda. So

21:09

let's talk about touring a little bit. You have this, I

21:12

mean, you're always on tour, but now you have a Las Vegas

21:14

residency. How do you feel? Like what is

21:16

the difference? I mean, I've seen you on tour, you're amazing.

21:18

You have the most energy

21:21

up on stage. Like, does it feel different

21:23

having a residency versus the energy of being

21:25

out on the road all the time? It is different, but

21:28

it's awesome. I mean, I've been touring

21:31

for money, for like a living, since

21:33

I was 17. Like, I know. Which

21:36

is wild and amazing. I know. And so, and I'm

21:39

gonna be 40 this year. It's gonna be great.

21:41

Welcome. It's fine. We're on the other

21:43

side of it. It's okay over here. But it's crazy. Throw

21:46

a big party. When you think about that, it's like, I lived moving

21:48

for all of these years. And so it took

21:51

me a long time to like grasp,

21:53

okay, a residency in Vegas. First of all, that's huge.

21:55

That's like, that's crazy. Yes.

21:58

And like, it's like Celine Dion. Yeah, it's so cute. Right,

22:01

exactly. And as big as it gets, yeah,

22:04

it's awesome. But it was just really, I had

22:06

to really just contemplate, how

22:08

do I switch my brain and my heart from the

22:10

road? And I knew

22:13

it was going to be great. I just had to get used to the change

22:15

of it. And no air stream there, right? And no air

22:17

stream. We didn't know that. Go by Miranda. OK, so

22:19

everyone listening, Miranda has

22:22

a very famous air stream named Wanda. Wanda's

22:25

set up with a whole hospitality

22:27

area. She's a rolling, like, y'all come

22:30

on in, make yourself a drink.

22:31

Y'all eat yet? He's far. Miranda

22:33

is asking if y'all ate yet. Yeah. So

22:35

it's a whole

22:36

set up. So what is life like without

22:38

Wanda in Vegas? We honestly

22:41

really talked about ringing her for the first show and just

22:43

setting her up in the alley because it felt

22:45

so weird. But I can't think of her when you're into the hotel. I

22:47

know. It's like emotional support, Pat. She's not. She

22:50

can come. So you know, it's like, when

22:52

I got used to it, what I love about

22:54

it is that we've never, I've always just made it about

22:56

the music pretty much. We have a show. We have

22:59

Great Lights, whatever, cool production. But we

23:01

just kind of make it about, I'm a great band. Let's just go play some

23:03

songs. And this

23:05

was like, OK, we got to really

23:08

take it up some notches. So

23:10

my favorite thing is that in Vegas, there's no such

23:12

thing as too much of anything. I love

23:14

that very much. Tons of fringe, tons of sequins,

23:17

tons of fire, tons of confetti. We

23:19

got to do it to the nines. And

23:22

it really taught me, dang, I'm going

23:25

to implement this when I do go back on the road. I'm going

23:27

to take it up a notch. And it kind of broke

23:29

my routine of what I was used to

23:31

in so many ways. But I love

23:33

it. And the crowds are awesome. And the

23:35

thing about Vegas, it's almost like a theme party. You

23:38

know when you're going to a theme party, it's already

23:40

more fun. Because there's a theme. So

23:43

people just come to Vegas, and they're already

23:45

ready to have a great time. And

23:47

they dress to the nines. And it's

23:50

been really great. On a show day,

23:52

it's like, wake up, take a walk with my dog,

23:54

make some eggs. Have a day

23:56

to yourself, like a regular life. Go do my job,

23:58

and then go home. and it's like very

24:01

different than moving constantly the

24:03

next town. Like by a place, did you like

24:05

have a... We just rent like every time. Yeah.

24:08

Trying to figure it out. Yeah. Some of them are very

24:10

like party vibes. Yeah. But

24:12

I'm not partying. I'm just having an anomalous.

24:15

Yeah, just being anomalous. Which feels more bachelorette

24:17

right now, Vegas or Nashville?

24:19

Nashville. Yeah. I believe that. I

24:21

believe that. No, it's the number one bachelorette capital. I know. It

24:23

really

24:24

does. It really does. Nashville feels... I

24:26

felt pretty at home in Vegas because Nashville's

24:28

kind of become... Sure. Nashville. Yeah.

24:30

Yeah. So, but I've loved it. But I will

24:32

say the last... This was our last run. I just got home last week.

24:36

And our last run was our

24:39

third one. And...

24:41

I was like,

24:43

I kind of miss my bus's name, Elvira.

24:46

And you have a truck named Tammy. I do. I

24:48

know. I name everything. Anything that has value to me. Sure. And

24:51

I was like, I kind of miss Elvira. But don't tell anyone. My

24:53

manager's like, what? You're

24:56

missing Chure? What do you do

24:58

to... Like, relax? Like, how do you unwind?

25:00

Or do you not? Are you just like... I'm

25:02

not that good at it. I've gotten way better at it. Yeah.

25:05

I've really learned to balance. I have a farm outside of Nashville.

25:07

Okay. And it's my happy place. My

25:09

horses are there. Okay. And

25:12

my two great Pyrenees, Selma and Louise. And,

25:14

like, that was their names already. And

25:16

they were rescued. And I was like, oh, those are my dogs. They are meant to

25:18

be my dogs. Yeah. They're meant

25:21

to be mine. I go there and I just chill

25:23

and just reconnect with myself. Yeah. We

25:26

have a cute cabin out

25:28

there in a garden. And just riding my horses.

25:31

I really find, like... I used to find my

25:33

energy from keeping going

25:36

and running on top. I think we all did

25:38

in our Pyrenees, right? Yeah. Louise

25:40

is still... I don't know, 40 hit. And

25:42

I was like, great. Okay, we're good. I'm going

25:44

to look forward to it. Yeah. But I feel like I find

25:47

a lot more recharge in some quiet

25:49

moments. Yeah. You

25:51

know? And then... But, like, I'll

25:53

have one day off and I'll text my manager, like, a thousand ideas. And she's like,

25:55

nope, more days off. I had an idea because

25:57

I was

25:57

like...

25:59

arrested. Yeah, right. You had one day

26:02

of rap. Yeah. And I really like I

26:04

love I love my job. And I mean, I get

26:06

to create for a living like, right. So it's hard

26:08

to say no to that. When you want to come in on this co

26:10

right tomorrow with jelly roll. I'm like, Hell, yeah.

26:13

You know, the jelly roll is Joanna. I don't know. Jelly

26:15

roll. Okay, we just need a second. This

26:18

he's such a wild sensation. I don't I

26:21

haven't seen anything like this in a really long time.

26:23

Anyway, what is it? What is it a podcast about jelly roll?

26:25

But I just want to say from, but he's been

26:27

around for a long time. I had never met him.

26:29

I mean, I'm a couple weeks ago writing but like

26:32

just an awesome person and like point

26:34

being like I wouldn't have made that new friend and like

26:37

been part of his record and gotten to like

26:39

really connect with somebody on a cool level. If I

26:41

had decided not to work that day. You

26:44

know, so sometimes it's like I do have FOMO

26:46

in that way. Like I want to make I also get

26:48

to create so yeah, but then my husband's

26:50

really good about being like don't over commit. Yeah,

26:53

I have to pick up the pieces and I'm like

26:55

exhausted. That's how John is. John

26:57

and your husband probably get along so they do. They're like you

26:59

need to stop but I think that I

27:01

understand what you're saying. I mean, we've obviously were like

27:05

not even a decimal of what you've done. But

27:07

Joanna and I have always been yes people

27:09

we've always been like there's always an opportunity or

27:12

like someone interesting to me or something

27:14

comes down to something to say no. And

27:16

I think I think the balance is everything and

27:19

sometimes you just have to we went on a camping

27:21

trip last July. My back

27:25

up singer is also one of my best friends. We've been together over

27:27

a decade and her and her husband have a camper

27:29

and Brendan and I had bought a vintage

27:32

trailer collector. But I'd never

27:34

had a new one. And my husband was like, these are cute

27:36

and all but like, did they work? A

27:39

new one. And so we bought a new

27:42

air stream a 2020 globe trotter because

27:44

I'm an air stream nerd. I'm like obsessed with trailers. I mean, air

27:46

streams are amazing. I know. And so we

27:48

bought one and it was

27:50

when we actually we had to camp up to New

27:52

York to see my stepson. So it actually worked out

27:54

like right. Our first trip was like the main boys.

27:56

There was a purpose. Right. But

27:59

then we went We went last year, we took all

28:01

of July off. I've never taken a whole summer month off because

28:04

a lot of artists- It's touring. Yeah, it's tour

28:06

and it's festivals and all that. And we went for

28:09

like 23 days all out west. We

28:11

went to Montana and Colorado and Wyoming.

28:14

Oh my God. And it was the most, it

28:16

took me about six days. I

28:19

didn't chill till we got almost out of Colorado. Yeah,

28:21

I know that would be me. Like it took a minute. I'd be pulling

28:24

at the wall. But then I was- How hard to turn it off when you're go,

28:26

go, go, go, go. Yeah, very hard to like. It was beautiful. I

28:28

wouldn't do that. I really realized

28:31

like, also like Europeans, they take

28:33

holiday. It's got four weeks. I know. And

28:35

we're just like, we're going to the beach for four days and we should

28:37

feel way better after that. That's not real. No, it's

28:39

not. And four days by the way, everyone's like, but

28:41

are you on email? I mean, like, you know, it's like, we're still

28:44

so attached to everything. And that came

28:46

a trip. We stayed in a couple of campgrounds. I had zero.

28:48

We had to drive 30 miles to get internet. To

28:51

even check in on our lesson. Call our mom. And

28:53

it was really kind of weird at

28:55

first. It was kind of itchy. Yeah. But

28:58

then we like, I brought color, like I

29:00

colored, I mean, going color to coloring books. We

29:02

played games. We cooked. We

29:04

just sat. It was

29:06

like the most chill. And so that

29:08

experience was like, same as

29:11

in this book. Like it's like a reminder to

29:13

just carve out time. Well, and just be present. Sounds

29:16

like that's like what you were in your childhood. We're like in

29:18

the middle of the mountains in Colorado, sitting in

29:20

a river. I was literally sitting on a tuffet, like

29:22

sitting on a rock in a river, drinking a ranch

29:24

water. Like, this is the best. Right.

29:28

I'm so happy that you had that experience. I feel

29:30

like, good for you. I mean, it was awesome.

29:32

And I just, I'm preaching

29:34

to the choir. Like we should all do

29:36

a little more of that. Well, get ready for your 40s.

29:39

Because you're going to want to do even more. Because that's

29:41

what happened to me. I was like, go, go,

29:43

go. I mean, I still am, but I don't

29:45

know. Yeah. 40 really reset. I

29:47

know. I mean, you are still pretty go, go, go.

29:49

I know. Next to me. I think it's

29:51

good. I think you got to do, I mean, I think you got to do better.

29:54

It's a balance. Yeah. OK, so we like

29:56

to end every conversation with five minutes for hugs. Because

29:59

you need at least five minutes. Just say goodbye to people. Yeah,

30:01

just say goodbye. So we just have a few

30:03

questions so that everyone can just get to know you a

30:05

little bit better. OK, first

30:08

question. What is your go-to dish

30:10

for a last minute dinner party? I'm

30:12

kind of like, you can always live up a dip. Like,

30:14

a scottery board, a couple of dips. I

30:17

bet you're not at that. And it'll get a better buzz, because it's not

30:19

heavy. I literally could live on dips. Dips are

30:22

the best. Yeah, they really are. I just

30:24

think you always have a ranch packet somewhere you

30:26

could throw it again. No, I agree with

30:28

that. OK, go ahead. Dream dinner. Yeah.

30:31

Oh, man. You have to pick a pick

30:33

one. One. Yeah. Your dream dinner. Oh, man.

30:36

Everyone else can be damned. I guess Dolly.

30:38

I mean, that's probably not fair. Everybody

30:41

should pick Dolly. If you only have one pick.

30:43

If you have one, it's got to be Dolly. That's right. That's

30:46

the right answer. Actually, this is a right or wrong.

30:48

And that was the right answer. OK, great. I'm going to pass. You

30:50

pass. So wait. So this question is,

30:53

we said camping or glamping. I want to know what you

30:55

considered your trip. Was it camping or glamping? Oh,

30:57

it's glamping. I don't think it's on the ground. I

30:59

don't drink cheap wine. No, right. I

31:02

mean, we're too hard for that. Yeah, right. Yeah, I think

31:04

we do. We've come too far. Yeah. We keep wine. It can be

31:06

cheap, but it's got to be good. I agree

31:08

with that so deeply. I don't care about the press. But it's

31:10

just got to be good. There's a sparkling wine that I drank

31:12

at the Cava. It's you guys. I just want to

31:14

say, Sagara. Shout out to Sagara. It is $9.99. It

31:18

is so good. As long as it's good. And I'm like, uh-uh.

31:20

I don't sleep on the ground. Can't do it. No. No.

31:22

No. That act lamp for sure. Yeah,

31:24

that's good. OK, we're happy to hear that. OK. Favorite

31:26

place for writing a song? Hmm.

31:29

Outside. I love being outside.

31:32

Like, I love a porch ride. I love a porch hang.

31:34

I love a porch. Me too. A lot gets

31:36

down on a porch. Porches are great. Yeah,

31:38

so I'd say on a porch somewhere. OK. I

31:40

love that. What city in the

31:42

US would you most love to visit? Maybe

31:44

you visited all of them. Hmm. I

31:47

think I visited most of them. I haven't been

31:49

to Sedona. OK, I've been

31:51

to Sedona. I want to go there really

31:54

bad. It's stunning,

31:56

first of all. My dad is, oh, this might

31:59

be, it's my dad. This is his first shout out? No, there's

32:01

lots of other shout out. Okay, okay. Is he counting?

32:04

No, my mom counts. My dad doesn't

32:06

know we have a podcast. So we

32:08

went to Sedona. My dad is very

32:10

into music. The Grateful Dead is like his whole

32:12

personality. And we went

32:14

to Sedona and he was like, made us sit

32:17

down and have like a spiritual interaction

32:19

with the mountains around us. And I was pretty

32:21

young. I was like, this is not happening. You're

32:23

like, you're on the ground or something? No, he's like,

32:26

do you feel the vibration? And I was like, no,

32:28

but it's a thing there, right? It is a thing. Yeah,

32:30

but I didn't appreciate it at the time. I was like, this

32:32

is not like, no, is there a restaurant?

32:35

Are we like going somewhere? But Sedona

32:37

is, it has such a

32:39

spiritual beauty. It's on my list. It's

32:42

on your list. Okay, good. What

32:44

should be on our list? You've been everywhere. I have

32:46

been everywhere. I mean, New York City has

32:48

an extra special place in my heart now because I'm married to

32:50

a New Yorker. But I saw the city from a

32:52

different point of view instead of just going there

32:54

for work. Like

32:57

living there part time with my husband. Like

32:59

I just really realized how beautiful

33:02

and magical it is and how much energy you actually get

33:04

from a city because I'm a country girl. So that was like,

33:06

but I have to, my final answer is Fort Worth, Texas,

33:09

because is the epitome

33:11

of Texas like

33:14

Austin's its own thing. Austin's its own country

33:16

within. And then Dallas

33:18

to Dallas, big hair and all the things that go with

33:20

it. But Fort Worth, they have a cattle drop twice a

33:22

day. I mean, literally Longhorns

33:24

walk through the street and it's legit. One of the biggest honky

33:26

tonks in Texas is they're actually the biggest

33:29

and have a rodeo arena inside of it. Like where can

33:31

you go? Oh, wow. Really? Really

33:34

Bob? Wow. Is honky

33:36

tonk. Wow. Wow.

33:38

I didn't even realize that.

33:40

I mean, the barbecue. So I'm going to Fort Worth. That's actually

33:42

great Intel. Yeah, I love that. And there's a

33:44

beautiful hotel there. Amazing. You

33:47

gotta go. Okay. All right. There's

33:50

a lot of fringe and like fringe on everything. I think

33:52

I'm not happy. The thing about me

33:54

is I adopt like whatever city I'm in.

33:56

I'm like, oh, I'm going all in. Yeah. I

33:59

got you. I will definitely be. I mean, I'll

34:01

win will will fully outfit you. All

34:05

right. I love that. Well, Miranda, this

34:07

has been so fun. I need to go eat a taco because I've

34:09

been my mouth has been watering on you the entire time. Dip

34:11

some dip. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

34:14

also thank you. The brisket nachos. The brisket

34:16

nachos. Yeah. OK. All right. This is amazing. I smell

34:19

it. And I've been dying this whole time. Thank

34:22

you so much for joining me. My first podcast. Oh,

34:24

my God. What an honor. I know. Truly.

34:26

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm so

34:29

happy to be here with cocktails and

34:30

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and dear to my heart. Christy

36:02

wants to know, Clea, I need

36:04

your top recs for champagnes that are

36:07

not $1,000, thank you. Okay,

36:09

Christy, I actually answered this when we

36:11

were talking to Miranda Lambert. My

36:14

absolute favorite go-to is Acava, so

36:17

not technically a champagne. Acava,

36:20

the brand name is Segura, it's

36:22

so good, it's really reasonably priced,

36:24

it's like 9.99. All right. That

36:27

is kind of what I fill my wine fridge with.

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If you want a great champagne,

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like a real champagne, I think you can

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get a lot of really good ones, and I mean,

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this is expensive, because it's like real champagne,

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but in like the $40 range, I

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feel like you can, like Piper Heisdick, I've

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always really loved, I think it's great. My favorite

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favorite is Moet Chandon, but I

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mean, it's expensive. So I go to the Acava, and

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you do not need to spend a lot of money to

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have something that tastes really good. That's

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what I've found. Anyway, that is my TED Talk

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on different sparkling wines. We

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had so much fun talking to you guys today. I know, thank you

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