Daniel Woods needs no introduction. We discuss his early days dominating the comp circuit, what it’s like to be a pro climber, why he's turned his attention to hard sport climbing, why 2017 was such a tough year, the goals he’s set for himself, and much more.

Chris Kalman is a writer, a guidebook author, and a journalist that recently self-published As Above, So Below: A Climbing Story.

Music by Small Houses: http://smallhouses.band/