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children and it probably will contain content that
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may be triggering to some people. Also,
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it's an Australian True Crime podcast. So
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Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners
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should be aware it may contain the
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voices of deceased people. The
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pay respect to the Aboriginal
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elders past, present and those
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emerging. Our
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guest on Australian True Crime today
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is Nicole Edwards. She
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served in the Western Australian Police Force for 17
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years until she retired
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on mental health grounds in 2023. Nicole
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was a victim of serial rapist
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Adrian Trevor Moore. Who was also
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a member of WA Police but
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was found guilty in 2022 of assaulting 13 women. Most
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of them had been unaware of what
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had happened to them until they were
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contacted by detectives who'd viewed video evidence
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of their rapes. Unfortunately,
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Nicole's position within WA Police
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didn't mean her case was
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expedited or even that it
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was treated within the normal parameters of
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a sexual assault case. You
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see, because of Adrian's... Moore's position
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within WA Police, they
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decided to keep the investigation within
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their internal affairs department rather
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than send it to the well-trained
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and experienced officers in the sex
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crimes squad. As
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a result, the case and
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the victims were grossly mishandled.
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Nicole Edwards joins us today to tell
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her story. So
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I mean, I first started speaking to him in late 2016 but
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you know, it was 2017 when I've
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kind of met up with him
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like face to face. You know, we
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were both doing our own thing that was mainly
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because we were both exchanged that we
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were both police. So you didn't
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meet three police though, did you? No. Online
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dating. From a
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sexual point of view, he was point
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blank saying that he was the dominator,
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he wanted someone to be the submissive
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person and look,
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my history came from being a
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child abuse and DV victim. So
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nothing surprised me really and it was
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like just listening into him and maybe just
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taking through as a thought process what
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he was talking about. I told
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him that that would not be my position or
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the way I'd want to go. The first time
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I met up with him was by coffee to
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be fair and I've met him like down the
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foreshore in Rockingham where it's close to where I was living at
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the time. We had this copy
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and then he's gone, oh
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look, you know, let's go for a drive, come with
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me. And he's driven out
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to Point Perron and driven into some
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strange spot and then it's all started
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from there because he's parked
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in a car park and put all
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the window shades up and basically then
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told me that it was time
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to perform oral sex with him and he
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started taking photo. You know,
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like I was never happy about it but
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didn't say no to that part either. But as
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soon as I realised he was taking photos, I
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do remember putting my hands up and I was like, I'm sorry, I'm up
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and grabbing him saying, that's enough, I didn't
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think I could take photos. And
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he has said, oh yeah, well
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I'll delete them. And then
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we have an exchange of words, he's dropped
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me back to my car. And then
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I've not had some contact with him for
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a while. He's continued to
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then make the contagious just talk
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sexually in the way he did, continue
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to try and re-link with me
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and I've cancelled another multi-vowt of
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times and then it gets to
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the period where he comes to mind. So
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I remember letting him into, like into the car
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park of where my apartment was and I remember
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the way he spoke to me and I
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was like, I don't like this, I'm not
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great on this. And then he bought
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his huge black bag inside but it
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was full of all his welded
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by himself sexual material
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that I didn't know until long after because I asked him
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what was in it and he said, shut the fuck up.
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Then he bought all the food and all
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the alcohol with his own glasses, everything like
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that. And he did it with his
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back turn. So then he's
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given me a glass of bread wine which I was
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drinking at the time and said, you should have been
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drinking before I got here, I told you that's what
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you should have been doing and
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you haven't done that. And all
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I remember taking is just one mouthful
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and then just things started to go
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really, really difficult really then.
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Basically, it was just like having an anesthetic, my
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body just, I felt it flow through my body and
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then there's a couple of
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things I remember but then the
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next point is, and this is 6 o'clock in the
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evening and the next thing I remember is life at
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the morning and he's still in my home and he's
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right next to me and then
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he bleached my whole house out. And I
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mean like I was obviously
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bleeding extensively from everywhere.
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The offence against me went over about
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a 10 hour period. I didn't
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know that he had filmed any of that at
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the time. I had no knowledge of
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it. what he'd done. He
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basically said to me, get up, get dressed,
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have a shower, we're going to go get
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something to eat and I'm like, I can't
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eat because I've never been so
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unwell. And then he
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insisted on that after he cleaned my apartment,
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then takes me down to have something to eat,
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tells me that I'm never to speak again about
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what's happened. And if I
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need any assistance in my injuries, then you
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know, like I need to just make
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sure I've got the correct story that doesn't
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involve him. So
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obviously, you know, I was
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very unwell that day, but I went into
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work on the Monday and very
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much I did this whole, because I rang
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him several times on the Sunday after he
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left saying, what have you done
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to me? Why am I so injured? And in
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the end, he rang me and he said, I will block you
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if you don't stop this shit. I've told you to
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be quiet now stop it. And
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then he did block me. He blocked
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me for probably would have been two
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or three months he blocked me. And so
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I just went back to
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work and I mean, even
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the fact that you have suffered sex
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abuse and domestic
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violence in your own life and
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you're working then in the sex
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abuse division at work,
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that seems a lot to me and seems
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too much to me, but I'm no expert. How
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much of that do you think he used against you? Look,
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it was really extensive. I think one of the
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things with Adrian Moore is that he had a
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whole booklet on every single one of his victims.
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So he was very clever at... So
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most of the women who are victims
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have come from previous domestic violence relationships
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or sexual violence relationships. And so
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he had a whole book that he's written about
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everyone. And he knew when there
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was someone unwell in your family and he knew when you
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were having an operation or a FES and medical, he had
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it all written down because he was
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a very attentive, very caring, sort
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of a person, he was very clever and to
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you know get my children through a life by
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myself and for me to
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help other people in a situation I can't
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help myself in and that
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is where I found my job
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to be just a total, it
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was my, it was what
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kept me alive every day and
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so he knew everything about why
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I was doing what I was doing and he
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had gone into my story in a
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huge way. When
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I found out he'd been arrested it was
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a substantial amount of time after he had
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been arrested and I saw it in the
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newspaper and it said about him having been
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arrested and his access to the police computers
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but see the last sentence said that he
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was in possession of BCLD which he was
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very heavily into and
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so then I did do a whole police thing
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so now I've got a case so they would
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have done a warrant in his house they would
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have picked up this footage because he's then by
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this stage told me he slept with a lot
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of women and he filmed all of them but
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none of them knew that and
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so now I'm thinking now they've
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got to have this footage. Did you
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realize that you would be one of
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them? Yeah and throughout the whole video
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he asked my name, my PD number,
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my position that I'm working in and
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so for everyone who watches it at internal
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affairs from police they know who
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it is because I've had to say my
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name and position number so then now my
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anxiety is that they would
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have had all this access to his
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filming and I'm thinking that would have gone
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to computer to crime so this many guys have
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seen it and it's gone up in Journal of Affairs
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and this many guys have seen it. So I've done
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this whole investigation in my head and so
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now I'm thinking no I need
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to speak to someone because I don't know what's
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in these videos with me. I know it's heard
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over a long period of time but
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they've seen me and I'm going to work
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every day and it
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took me to go to a superintendent
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and a detective, senior sergeant who had
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a friend in an internist there who
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contacts them and then the first meeting I have
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with them they just say look
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there's over 200 women on video
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and he starts going on and on and he
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goes it's so distressing it's worse than anything I've ever
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seen and I'm like well this is
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18 months afterwards at what time we're on a contact
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meeting he goes oh hang on I'm just looking on
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the running sheet yeah we did contact you and I
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went no you did not and he
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goes oh shit yeah sorry about
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that Nicole I actually yeah I can see what we've
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put here you can send it because you're speaking
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in the videos and I went what
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oh no but
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no I'm telling you I don't remember it. I
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did argue it out to start when I first
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gone to them so then I went to who
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was then the superintendent of sex crime who was
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a female and I went
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to her and I said look they've had this for
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18 months. Sex crime were not
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aware that they had these sexual videos which
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is insane. So it was with internal affairs
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is that who yeah right. So then I
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went and did a meeting with the superintendent
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of sex crime we met at a coffee
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shop somewhere and she
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started taking some notes and closed her book and
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went I don't even know
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about this and so she makes
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an appointment to see the superintendent of
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internal affairs and says what
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in the hell why didn't you tell
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us and it wasn't until that I
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contacted the triple C that they then
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on the Friday and then on the
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Monday sex crime get a call to say oh look
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you might want to come and review what
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we're looking at here and then so sex
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assaults squad did the. review
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and then it was handed to them. So
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but that yeah 18 months two years. Because
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he's a member. Yeah. And you
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know not all of his victims are
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members but they've decided that the
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fact that he's a member of WA Police trumps
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the fact that he's a rapist. Yeah. Unbelievable,
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outrageous, absolutely outrageous.
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So Mr Moore was involved with some
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of our most senior women police officers
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and one in particular
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who her name has continues
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to be suppressed. So
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myself and now the police officers
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that he was involved with were aware
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of this particular senior
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police officer and were
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told that we could never speak up
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because he would always survive through the
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system because he had pictures
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and videos of what he'd done with a
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particular person and that's the
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way he used it with us that we could
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we should never painful to speak and
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that we would cost us
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our own career. My job
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is it cost me mine. How
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was Moore arrested initially? What what
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led to his arrest? So
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it was another police officer she was
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getting concerned about the level of violence
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and she was offended against and
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she made a complaint to internal
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affairs and so then they
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just sort of obviously instead of looking at what he
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was looking at computer wise and what he was doing
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at work and sort of that sort of stuff. So
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they did arrest him and they pulled him over the side
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of the road and he had
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obviously they were able to do the
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warrant because of the BCLD pictures that he had. So in
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2022 Adrian Trevor Moore was
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jailed for 30 years for drugging
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and assaulting women. So
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what happened in the end? How many how
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many known victims? So there was just over
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200 in video they spoke to 167. There
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was 13 who went to court. I
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had to wait till all of the
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process was over before I connected with
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those. There was only myself
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and one police officer who did go
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forward and she
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still remains quiet,
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which is absolutely, I do not blame her
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for. I have connected
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with a number of
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the victims and, look, hearing their
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stories has just been
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absolutely heartbreaking. Absolutely
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heartbreaking. The
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suicidal attempts has been extraordinary.
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I unfortunately have had quite
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a fair go at suicide
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attempts and... Oh, I'm so sorry.
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It's the most horrifying,
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horrifying story
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and situation. And
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you, as you mentioned earlier, you lost your career through
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it. Yeah, I did. Yeah.
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I mean, obviously for me, I still do
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a fair amount of work with my
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psychologist and psychiatrist who, through
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them, I have been extraordinarily
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lucky. And I would
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openly say now that I
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still need to do the work
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with them. And I know when things are hard
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or I'm having a bit of a fall down,
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I do get in contact with
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them. Thank
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you to our guest on Australian True
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Crime, Nicole Edwards. If
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you need support after listening to this podcast, you can
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call Lifeline on 13 11 14 or
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contact 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or 1800respect.org.au.
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Indigenous Australians can contact 13 Yarn on 13 92
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76 or 13yarn.org.au. Thank
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you for downloading this episode of Australian True Crime.
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We'll be back next week.
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