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1:15

should be aware it may contain the

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on which it's recorded. They

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pay respect to the Aboriginal

1:36

elders past, present and those

1:38

emerging. For

1:43

more than a decade, Adrian Moore lived a

1:45

double life. On the one hand,

1:47

he was a long serving trusted police officer.

1:50

On the other, a violent sex offender.

1:52

Moore's crimes came to light in 2018

1:54

after one of his final victims reported

1:57

him to police. An

1:59

investigation began. and it was

2:01

discovered he'd unlawfully used the police computer

2:03

to access the details of women to

2:05

determine if they were suitable dates. He

2:08

was jailed for six months, but

2:10

the investigation continued, eventually finding thousands

2:12

of photographs and videos of more

2:15

violently sexually assaulting the 13 women

2:18

after they'd been drugged and were incapable

2:20

of giving their consent. More

2:22

denied any wrongdoing maintaining the women had

2:25

consented, but a district court jury found

2:27

him guilty of 87 offences. Our

2:35

guest on Australian True Crime today is

2:38

Nicole Edwards. She served

2:40

in the Western Australian Police Force for

2:42

17 years until she retired on mental

2:44

health grounds in 2023. Nicole

2:49

was a victim of serial rapist Adrian

2:51

Trevor Moore, who was also a member

2:53

of WA Police, but was found guilty

2:55

in 2022 of assaulting 13 women. Most

3:01

of them had been unaware of what

3:03

had happened to them until they were

3:05

contacted by detectives who'd viewed video evidence

3:07

of their rapes. Unfortunately

3:10

Nicole's position within WA Police

3:13

didn't mean her case was

3:15

expedited or even that

3:17

it was treated within the normal parameters

3:19

of a sexual assault case. You

3:22

see, because of Adrian Moore's position

3:25

within WA Police, they

3:27

decided to keep the investigation within

3:29

their internal affairs department rather

3:32

than send it to the well-trained

3:34

and experienced officers in the sex

3:36

crimes squad. As

3:38

a result, the case and

3:40

the victims were grossly mishandled.

3:43

Nicole Edwards joins us today to tell

3:45

her story. I

3:52

first started speaking to him in late 2016, but it was

3:54

2017 when I've kind of met up with him

3:59

like, um, for years. face. You

4:01

know, we were both doing our own thing.

4:04

It was mainly because we were both exchanged

4:06

that we were both police. So

4:08

you didn't meet three police though, did you? No.

4:11

Online dating, like everyone else. I think he

4:13

was one of those ones that in the

4:15

first 30 seconds of having a conversation, he

4:17

was like, I'm a police officer. And

4:20

were you one of those ones? You know what, you'll have

4:22

to excuse me. I've never been in

4:24

online dating. So I don't know how much of

4:26

it you'd done. Like I've tried it a couple

4:29

of times and just found that back and forth

4:31

chitter chat a bit boring and I'm not good at it.

4:34

Did you divulge? I would think divulging that

4:36

you're a police officer in online

4:38

dating would be a risky business, wouldn't it? Yeah,

4:41

I mean, I was overly evasive

4:43

about that when I spoke to

4:45

people on online dating. Actually, you know, being

4:47

a female and, you know, obviously a lot

4:50

of guys didn't like female police officers anyway.

4:52

The women liked the male police officers,

4:54

but it was different the other way. So

4:58

yeah, I wasn't. But obviously when Adrian has

5:00

said to me that he's in police, I've

5:02

referred straight back and said me too. And

5:04

then we're comparing where we're working to and

5:06

that sort of thing. So

5:09

that's what made that different. Yeah, that

5:11

seemed like, I guess, quickly a thing

5:13

in common. And because your job is

5:15

so peculiar, you know,

5:17

it's a job that most of us just don't understand.

5:19

Did that seem like a positive to

5:22

you at the time? Yeah, definitely. Because,

5:24

you know, I was silly enough to

5:26

believe that I could have total trust

5:28

in him, which I had very little

5:30

of others. And yeah, I

5:33

guess that's why I went that way. Well,

5:35

you certainly weren't the only person who felt that way.

5:37

He was using his job as

5:40

a mask, wasn't he? It came out

5:42

later from other victims that they

5:45

too thought, I can trust this guy. He's a

5:47

policeman. Yeah. So

5:50

but it was obviously a couple of

5:52

months that you were chatting online before you took

5:54

the step to meet face to face. Yes,

5:57

I mean, I think with him and I, we

6:00

chatted online and then quickly exchange

6:02

phone numbers. The biggest difference

6:05

there was that he wanted to communicate

6:07

on WhatsApp. So obviously if his phone's

6:09

ever picked up, they can't download that

6:11

sort of things. Whereas I was always

6:13

really strong about no, remains a messenger.

6:16

I refused to go on the WhatsApp side and

6:19

him and I continued to communicate it via

6:22

messenger. So I always had that visual

6:24

of what we were talking about. I

6:26

know the dating sites certainly advice against that,

6:28

don't they? And I know that they, some

6:31

of them, I don't know if all of them do have

6:34

a warning about exchanging

6:36

phone numbers. If you go to give your

6:38

phone number, they have an algorithm that says,

6:40

are you sure you want to exchange

6:43

numbers? There are dangers to

6:46

taking messaging offline

6:48

and it's safer to keep

6:50

your messaging on the site. Yeah,

6:52

look to be fair back at that time,

6:55

I don't remember seeing anything that

6:57

warned you against the exchange of

6:59

phone numbers. I've heard of probably

7:01

been more that, you know, from a computer crime

7:03

side of things and if it's got someone's phone

7:05

and downloaded it, that usually you

7:07

can't see the messages from WhatsApp. But if

7:10

it's a messenger

7:12

or by normal text, they can download

7:14

those. So that was probably my

7:16

way of trying to support myself was

7:18

making sure that everything was always downloadable.

7:21

But then it was very

7:23

much a police talk process, I guess.

7:26

How did the first meeting

7:28

go, the first dates? How long

7:30

did it take for things to

7:33

unravel between you and Adrianne Moore?

7:36

I mean, like, it was very

7:39

quick. I mean, he was in

7:41

that sort of situation where from a

7:43

sexual point of view, he was point

7:45

blank saying that he was the dominator,

7:48

he wanted someone to be the submissive

7:50

person. And look,

7:52

my history came from being a

7:55

child abuse and DV victim. So

7:57

Nothing surprised me really.. And it was

7:59

like... the first thing in the him

8:01

and and maybe just taking through his

8:03

the thought process. What is talking about? I

8:07

told him that that would not. Been my position

8:09

or the lad? want guy? We.

8:12

Arrange to made up several times in. I

8:14

just keep canceling the system I met up

8:16

with Seamless by. Coffee to be fair enough.

8:18

Miss him than I am in the for showing

8:20

roping I'm where it plus arousing at the time.

8:23

We. Had this copy and then now

8:25

I'm. Dead. he's gone all a kid. I

8:27

had a scare for Drive come with May.

8:30

Ah many driven out point. Pair and and

8:32

driven into some strange sport and then

8:34

it's so sad of sunday because some

8:36

his his part dinner in a car

8:38

park and put all the window shades

8:40

up and basically and i then told

8:42

me that it was time to to

8:44

perform oral sex with him and he

8:46

started taking. Photos. You

8:49

know like all is never happy about it.

8:51

but. Didn't say no to

8:53

that part. Either. But as soon as I

8:55

realized he was taking photos. I do remember

8:57

putting. But. I'm I had up and grabbing

8:59

and same as he now on in say the take

9:01

side eyes. And the he has

9:04

said or gavel alt delete them.

9:06

And. Then we have been in exchange of words.

9:09

He struck me back to my car. And.

9:11

Then. I'd. Say not. Heads

9:13

in contact with him for while. I'm

9:15

that he's continued. Say than make the

9:18

country's is to top six lane

9:20

the way did. Continue to

9:22

time reading with me and

9:24

I've cancelled another multiple times

9:26

and down. In. A gets to

9:28

the period where he comes to mind. I

9:32

think it's worth mentioning at this point that

9:34

by the time you met him, he had

9:36

been writing women's. For. Ten

9:39

Years. Yeah. Probably longer than that

9:41

a cat here. So he had a

9:43

very long and on going to say

9:46

successful. Get. Ascending Korea by

9:48

the state so he's confidence

9:50

was high. He. Had a

9:52

very well established. ah

9:54

modus operandi he knew what he

9:56

was stealing essentially and by the

9:58

time he ever met you and also

10:01

he offended against non

10:05

police officers. There was a

10:08

very different way in which he did

10:10

that. So I remember

10:12

letting him into like into the car park of

10:14

where my apartment was and I remember the way

10:16

he spoke to me and I was

10:19

like, I don't like this, I'm not great

10:21

on this and then he bought his

10:23

huge black bag inside but it was

10:25

full of all his welded

10:27

by himself sexual material

10:30

that I didn't know until long after because I asked him

10:32

what was in it and he said shut the fuck up.

10:35

Then he bought all the food and all the

10:38

alcohol with his own glasses, everything like that and

10:41

he did it with his back turn. So then

10:43

he's given me a glass of bread wine which I

10:46

was drinking at the time and said you should have

10:48

been drinking before I got here, I told you that's

10:50

what you should have been doing and

10:53

you haven't done that and all I

10:55

remember taking is just one mouthful and

10:58

then just things started

11:01

to go really difficult really

11:03

then. Basically it was just like

11:05

having an anaesthetic, my body just I felt

11:07

it flow through my body and then

11:10

there's a couple of things I remember

11:12

but then the next point is and this

11:14

is 6 o'clock in the evening and the next

11:16

thing I remember is like the morning and he's

11:18

still in my home and he's right next to

11:21

me and then he bleached my whole house

11:23

out. So and I mean

11:25

like I was you know obviously

11:27

bleeding extensively from everywhere, the

11:30

offence against me went over about a

11:32

10-hour period. I didn't

11:34

know that he had filmed any of that

11:36

at the time, I had no knowledge

11:38

of what he'd done and this

11:40

is on a Saturday night for me and I was

11:42

working at Sex Sold at the time. So

11:45

I went back into work on

11:47

a Monday morning with all my clothing up

11:49

to here and obviously trousers

11:51

and stuff and interviewed a

11:53

child abuse victim in a

11:55

Sex Sold division on

11:57

a Monday. Yeah I mean It

12:00

was extraordinarily difficult. After

12:04

this 10 hour assault and

12:06

then you have gone back to work on the

12:09

Monday because I can't imagine the confusion in your

12:11

own mind about what this all

12:13

means. Yeah. What this

12:15

means about your

12:17

own identity and about what you're meant to

12:19

do about it. Yeah. So you've

12:22

gone back to work on Monday. How did you decipher

12:24

this for yourself? How did you unpack this as we

12:26

would say? So after he'd

12:28

left me on that Sunday, so he

12:31

basically said to me, get up, get dressed,

12:33

have a shower. We're going to go get

12:35

something to eat. And I'm like, I can't

12:37

eat because I'd never been so

12:40

unwell. And then he

12:42

insisted on that after he cleaned my apartment,

12:44

then takes me down to have something to eat.

12:47

He tells me that I'm never to speak again

12:49

about what's happened. And if

12:51

I need any assistance in my injuries, then

12:53

you know, like I need to just make

12:56

sure I've got the correct story that doesn't

12:58

involve him. So

13:00

obviously, you know, I was

13:03

very unwell that day, but I went

13:05

into work on the Monday and very

13:08

much I did this whole because I rang

13:11

him several times on the Sunday after he

13:13

left saying, what have you done to me? Why

13:16

am I so injured? And

13:18

in the end, he ran me and he said, I will

13:20

block you if you don't stop this shit. I've told you

13:22

to be quiet. Now stop it. And

13:25

then he did block me. He blocked me

13:27

for probably would have been

13:29

two or three months. He blocked me. And

13:32

so I just went back to work and

13:35

I mean, it's even the fact that you

13:37

have suffered sex abuse and domestic

13:40

violence in your own life and

13:44

you're working then in the sex

13:46

abuse division at work.

13:50

That seems a lot to me and

13:52

seems too much to

13:54

me, but I'm no expert. How much

13:56

of that do you think he used against you? thought

14:00

you were doing the right thing in saying, okay,

14:02

you're being upfront with me and saying that this is the

14:04

way you like your sex to go.

14:07

Now I need to be upfront with you and

14:09

saying, I don't like sex that way because of

14:11

my background. How much of

14:13

that do you think he actually used to

14:15

manipulate you on that very first time when

14:17

he really coerced you

14:20

into oral sex in

14:22

a car park? Yeah. Look, it

14:24

was really extensive. I think one of the things

14:26

with Adrian Moore is that he had a whole

14:29

book lot on every single one of his victims.

14:31

So he was very clever at... So

14:33

most of the women who were victims

14:35

had come from previous domestic violence relationships

14:37

or sexual violence relationships. And so

14:39

he had a whole book that he had written

14:41

about everyone and he knew when there was someone

14:44

unwell in your family and he knew when you

14:46

were having an operation or a FES and medical,

14:48

he had it all written down because he

14:50

was a very attentive, very caring

14:52

sort of a person. He was

14:54

very clever. And I

14:57

think from my side, yeah, I was

14:59

absolutely blatantly honest with him because

15:01

we did talk about why we joined the job

15:03

and I was living in a heavy domestic violence

15:05

relationship at the time of joining the job

15:07

and I had my children really small. And

15:10

I remember thinking like, I want to

15:13

be on my own, but I need to get this

15:15

career to get my children through

15:17

a life by myself. And for me

15:19

to help other people in a situation I

15:22

can't help myself in. And

15:24

that is where I found my

15:26

job to be just a total...

15:29

It was what kept me

15:31

alive every day. And I mean

15:33

obviously my last five years of the job was spent

15:35

as a specialist child

15:37

interviewer at Child Abuse. And

15:40

so he knew everything about why

15:42

I was doing what I was doing and he

15:45

had gone into my story in a

15:47

huge way. There was a

15:49

rare occasion where he wasn't ringing and saying, how's

15:51

this going or how's this going with the ex?

15:53

Have you done this? Are you feeling okay? How's

15:56

it going with your family? He was extraordinarily

15:59

clever. Yeah, and I

16:01

hope that you've had a lot of understanding about

16:03

that, about how vulnerable

16:05

you actually were to his manipulation

16:08

and his grooming and his coercion.

16:11

Yeah, I think everyone just thought, you know, that

16:13

I should have been more... I was a police officer,

16:16

so... And police thought that, you know, you're a police

16:18

officer, you should have done something about it. What the

16:20

hell would you think you were doing? Such

16:23

old-fashioned thinking. Yeah, it is,

16:25

yeah. And it's, you know, people

16:27

like you who... Certainly I've

16:29

learned a lot about it, and I know our listeners have

16:31

learned a lot about it because of women like you who

16:33

have come forward to say, well, it doesn't

16:36

work that way. And yeah,

16:38

I hope that you have

16:40

and are receiving the compassion that you deserve

16:43

for coming forward and speaking about how it

16:45

actually works. I think, you

16:48

know, it probably put me in

16:50

a situation where, I mean, my understanding

16:52

for sexual assault victims was huge before,

16:54

but now as this hits on... It

16:56

just becomes stronger and stronger, and then

16:59

I start to fight a lot for women who

17:01

can't speak up and say, you know, we shouldn't

17:03

judge people who don't speak up. And

17:06

this really sort of went for 18 months

17:08

for me because I didn't

17:10

know that he had been arrested. He did

17:12

re-contact me two or three months after the

17:15

event, and he was like, oh, hi,

17:17

just checking in to see how you're going. And I just

17:20

went into full police mode. So then

17:22

I kind of did this... Like

17:24

I pretended that I remembered some of the things

17:27

that he did and asked him questions about it

17:29

and asked him, like he would mention that something

17:31

he'd done to me. And so I'd link that

17:33

with the injuries I had. And then I'd ask

17:35

him another question and go... And he

17:38

said, oh, you really enjoyed that part? And I'm said,

17:41

oh, I must have. So what exactly did you

17:43

do? And then... So he's given me a lot

17:46

of details. So I started to pick up some

17:48

of what he had actually done and I continued

17:50

to communicate him over a long period of

17:53

time, but never, ever

17:55

saw him again. So you're putting together the evidence

17:57

in your mind. You're writing it all down? Yeah.

17:59

So... He then tried to get me

18:01

into a situation of doing a threesome with another police

18:03

officer who I now know who that is and I

18:06

was very like, okay, we're both

18:08

police females. We both can

18:10

say yes to this. We

18:12

can do something here. We can get this done. And

18:16

so I had gone for a full arrangement with him

18:18

to do that and then the last minute he said,

18:20

oh no, she's pulled out, can't do it but you

18:22

know, still wanting you to go to the place and

18:24

organize or whatever and I was like, no, I'm out.

18:27

I said, I can't do

18:29

this anymore and then everything went quiet

18:31

and then when I found

18:35

out he'd been arrested, it was a substantial amount

18:37

of time after he had been arrested and I

18:39

saw it in the newspaper and I just finished

18:42

interviewing a child at a school with

18:44

the child abuse detectives and they were

18:47

organizing something and I was thinking through the news and

18:49

it was on Perth Now and a photo come up

18:51

of him but I didn't recognize

18:53

him because he changed a lot

18:55

differently and then I read the

18:57

story and it said about

19:00

him having been arrested and his

19:02

access to the police computers but see the

19:04

last sentence said that he was in possession

19:06

of B-Cality which he was very heavily into

19:09

and so then I did do a whole police

19:11

thing so now I've got a case so they

19:13

would have done a warrant in his house and

19:15

I would have picked up this footage because he

19:17

then by this stage just told me he slept

19:20

with a lot of women and he filmed all

19:22

of them but none of them knew that and

19:24

so now I'm thinking now they've

19:26

got to have this footage. Did you realize that

19:28

you would be one of them? Yeah. Yeah.

19:32

And throughout the whole video he

19:34

asked my name, my PD number,

19:36

my position that I'm working in

19:38

and so for everyone who watches it at

19:40

the internal affairs from police, they know

19:42

who it is because I've had to say my name

19:45

and position number again and again

19:47

and again during this and so then

19:49

I obviously then have to make a couple of contacts

19:51

and I'm going what do I do here and they're

19:53

saying to me don't worry about it.

19:55

They obviously don't have, this is one of the most

19:57

senior police officers, don't worry about it they didn't contact

19:59

you. you, it's fine. So

20:02

what was your perspective?

20:04

Obviously that senior officer is coming from

20:06

the position of, great, stay

20:08

out of it as long as you

20:10

can. If they don't come to you, keep

20:13

quiet and hope that you're left out of it. What

20:16

was your position? Was your position, I want to be

20:18

left out of it? And

20:20

I'd understand if it was? Yeah, no,

20:22

no, no, by this stage now, so

20:24

then now my anxiety is

20:26

that they would have had all this access

20:29

to his filming and I'm thinking that would

20:31

have gone to computer crime so this many

20:33

guys have seen it and it's gone to

20:35

the internal affairs, this many guys have seen

20:37

it. So I've done this whole

20:39

investigation in my head and

20:41

so now I'm thinking, no, I need to speak

20:43

to someone because I don't know what's in these

20:46

videos with me. I know it's hurt

20:48

over a long period of time but they've

20:50

seen me and I'm going to work every day.

20:52

Oh my God. They're coming within

20:54

me now and it

20:56

took me to go to a superintendent

20:58

and a detective senior sergeant who had

21:01

a friend in an internal affairs who

21:03

contacts them. They end up

21:05

ringing me on the Monday and saying, we don't want to talk

21:07

to you about it over the phone, come and meet with us

21:09

on the Tuesday. And then

21:11

the first meeting I have with them, they

21:13

just say, the

21:15

guy says to me, take him into a separate room, he says,

21:17

no recording in here, we don't want to record you. Look,

21:20

there's over 200 women on the video

21:23

and he starts going on and on, he goes,

21:25

it's so distracting, it's worse than anything I've ever

21:27

seen. And I'm like, well, this is

21:29

18 months afterwards, at what time we're on a contact

21:31

meeting, he goes, oh hang on, I'm just looking on

21:33

the running sheet. Yeah, we did contact you and I

21:36

went, no, you did not. And he

21:38

goes, oh shit, yeah, sorry about

21:40

that Nicole. I actually, yeah, I can see what we've

21:42

put here. You can send a push

21:44

of speaking in the videos. And I went, what? Oh

21:47

no. I said,

21:49

no, I'm telling you, I don't remember it. I

21:51

said, I need to do a

21:53

statement today. And he goes, no, no, no,

21:55

no, I've got a union meeting, we've got drinks today. Oh,

21:58

we do go away and have a... think about it. And

22:02

then life started

22:04

falling into a

22:06

horrendous place for me because I

22:09

ended up having to speak to 18 different

22:11

senior police officers to tell my full

22:14

story and Speaking of union,

22:16

did you go to your union rep? Yes

22:18

and they did everything to do with it.

22:22

No. Nothing. So you had

22:24

to speak to 18 different police officers and tell

22:26

them this story. Yes. No.

22:30

No. No. One

22:32

of them was a female and she was

22:34

the detective sergeant for me at the time. She no

22:36

longer in the job and she did help as

22:38

much as she could because I had to write

22:40

my statement. My first

22:42

day of taking a statement was there was

22:44

a guy who had never worked in sex crime

22:47

and he'd come from the fraud section when I

22:49

was giving him the story of what I knew.

22:51

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22:53

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22:56

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22:58

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just sort of obviously started looking at what he was

24:41

looking at computer wise and what he was doing at

24:43

work and sort of that sort of stuff. So

24:46

they did arrest him. They pulled him over the side of the road

24:48

and he had obviously they were able to

24:51

do the warrant because of the BCL, the

24:53

pictures that he had. And

24:55

then from there he was obviously

24:57

arrested, chuffed on bail. Then they

25:00

started getting in contact with other non

25:02

police victims from there but never told them

25:04

that they had footage of them. Told

25:06

them that he had accessed them on

25:09

the computer. So

25:11

for all of the other victims rather, they

25:13

never told them that footage existed

25:15

and they never knew that footage

25:17

existed. Were not ever aware.

25:20

And it took from two years from the time he was arrested

25:23

to the time it went to

25:25

sex assault for them to find out that

25:27

there was footage of them being assaulted by

25:29

him. And that police officers had

25:31

been looking at it for

25:33

years? Yes. You

25:35

said earlier that the assaults on

25:38

police officers and non police

25:40

officers were different. How so?

25:43

Like I mean, I know one of

25:45

the police officers was

25:48

taken to hospital. They

25:51

certainly had extensive injuries but because

25:53

they didn't know that he was

25:56

filming them so he made sure

25:58

that there wasn't injuries. So, I

26:00

mean, mine were from a horse whip right from the back

26:02

of my neck, down to the back of my legs. And

26:05

so he wouldn't utilize that on them

26:07

because they weren't aware they were being

26:09

filmed. So for them to have had

26:12

visual, terrible injuries

26:15

would make it a bit

26:17

hard for him because he would have been

26:19

found out what he was up to. So

26:22

a lot of them, they've had internal

26:24

injuries and those sorts of things

26:27

and other injuries that, you know, minor

26:29

sort of injuries they've not been aware of how

26:31

they've received. So why wasn't he worried about you

26:33

having those injuries? So Mr

26:36

Moore was involved with some of

26:38

our most senior women police officers

26:40

and one in particular, who

26:43

her name has continues to be

26:45

suppressed. So

26:47

myself and now the police officers that he was involved

26:49

with were aware of this

26:52

particular senior

26:54

police officer and were

26:57

told that we could never speak up

26:59

because he would always survive through the

27:01

system because he had pictures and videos

27:03

of what he'd done with a particular

27:05

person. And that's the way

27:07

he used it with us that we could

27:09

never come forward to speak out and

27:12

that we would cost us

27:15

our own career, which obviously

27:17

it cost me mine. And

27:20

he utilised that in a very strong way. He

27:22

named a lot of people and spoke about a

27:24

lot of people who were in the

27:26

higher position possible. And

27:30

so him being able to physically

27:33

harm us was, for him,

27:35

was a safe thing because he knew

27:38

down well that we weren't going to arrest him

27:40

ourselves. And certainly from my

27:42

perspective, I wasn't dumb enough to speak out

27:44

because then who, that's

27:47

a very victim thing though. It's still got to

27:49

be who's going to believe me on V1. Like,

27:54

what do I say? Because then he'll just turn

27:56

around and say, yeah, well, she was into the

27:58

Bondi draw. She was into what? and so

28:00

yeah, look I might have over struck her a

28:02

little bit but no she, that's

28:05

what she wanted so. And it

28:07

seems as though to a large

28:09

extent he knew how to manipulate

28:11

other men who viewed the

28:14

video. Yep, absolutely. Because you had

28:16

mail officers say, well that's

28:18

right we didn't ring you because you gave consent in

28:20

the video. Yeah and I think

28:23

then having to have actually seen the

28:25

video myself, the videos myself, it just,

28:29

it will forever, ever fascinate me

28:31

how on earth they went, you

28:33

were consenting because I,

28:35

in one part of the video I say,

28:37

stop your hurting. But

28:40

mine goes over an extensive period of time

28:42

and I start off where I look like

28:45

a normal sort of woman with you

28:47

know hair and makeup done and it

28:49

goes through the whole 10-hour period where

28:52

like I've been crying, I've got black

28:54

marks down my face, like I'm a

28:56

mess, you can tell that at

28:58

the very minimum I'm under the influence

29:01

of something, you know if you

29:03

have a look at my eyes, if you

29:05

have a look and it's just horrifying how

29:08

on earth someone or so

29:10

many people can watch that and say

29:12

you were consenting because you are speaking

29:14

words is beyond me. And

29:17

words that he is constantly asking

29:19

you to say, like in what

29:21

normal scenario does that happen? Asking

29:24

for your rank and serial number

29:26

essentially. Yeah that's not

29:28

good and it's not normal. It's not

29:30

normal and past now at this stage

29:33

you know I'm crying and I'm emotional

29:36

and his voice throughout the whole process

29:38

because he doesn't film himself but you

29:40

can hear him talking, he's calm, he's

29:42

forceful, he's dominating

29:46

and from hearing his voice

29:48

alone versus saying that the female is

29:50

consenting, I just,

29:52

you know, I

29:55

mean I suppose initially I thought oh it's

29:57

because you know they don't have any training and

29:59

the crime division. That's

30:04

not a great way to think about it. That's me

30:06

trying to put coverage in place for them and why

30:08

they never put any further. It is. And

30:10

it's also you being a copper

30:12

to be honest and being a member and

30:14

being better than I do

30:19

what coppers are like. And I

30:22

as an outsider am saying, well why

30:25

on earth did they have the investigation?

30:27

Why weren't members of the sexual assault

30:30

squad dealing with

30:32

the investigation? I did argue

30:34

it out to start with when I first

30:36

got onto them, so then I went to

30:38

who was then the superintendent of sex crime

30:40

who was a female and I went to

30:42

her and I said, look they've had this

30:44

for 18 months. Sex crimes

30:46

were not aware that they had these sexual videos which

30:48

is insane. So it was with internal affairs? Is that

30:51

who had it or... Yeah. Right.

30:54

Yeah. Okay. So

30:56

we met in a crime. We met at a coffee

30:58

shop somewhere and she

31:00

started taking some notes and closed her book and

31:02

went, I don't even know

31:04

about this. And so she

31:07

makes an appointment to see the superintendent of

31:09

internal affairs and says, what

31:11

in the hell, what in the hell is. And

31:13

he on several occasions tells her

31:16

they took back off. They have

31:18

no access to this investigation.

31:22

And the stupidest part is

31:24

that I've continued to exchange this in

31:26

writing with the, and still

31:28

have it. We said going backward and

31:30

forward and backward and forward and internal

31:32

affairs is declining sex crimes come forward.

31:36

And it wasn't until that I contacted

31:38

the triple C that they then on

31:40

the Friday and then on the Monday,

31:43

sex crime get a call to say, oh look,

31:45

you might want to come and review what we're looking at

31:47

here. And then so sex

31:49

assaults squad did the review and

31:51

then it was handed to them.

31:54

So, but that, yeah, 18 months, two years.

31:57

Because he's a member. Yeah. But

32:00

not all of his victims are members,

32:03

but they've decided that the fact that he's a

32:05

member of WA Police trumps the fact that he's

32:07

a rapist. Yes.

32:10

Unbelievable. Outrageous. Absolutely

32:12

outrageous. So

32:15

what happened in the end? How many

32:17

known victims? So there was just over

32:20

200 on video. They spoke to

32:22

167. There was 13 who

32:25

went to court. I

32:28

had to wait till all of the

32:30

process was over before I connected those.

32:33

There was only myself and one police

32:35

officer who did go forward and

32:38

she still remains quiet

32:40

which is absolutely, I do not blame

32:42

her for. I have

32:45

connected with a number

32:47

of the victims and look, hearing

32:49

their stories has just

32:51

been absolutely heartbreaking. Absolutely

32:54

heartbreaking. There

32:57

was a lot of, because

32:59

he was obsessed with BCLD, not only were

33:01

they not aware of the footage, but some

33:04

of them weren't aware of the fact

33:06

that there was any animals involved in

33:08

situations and they were

33:11

told when they were spoken to

33:13

early in times that

33:15

they would be charged with criminal

33:17

offences. No. Yeah.

33:20

There has been in terms of the

33:23

suicidal attempts has been

33:25

extraordinary. I

33:27

unfortunately have had quite a

33:29

fair go at suicide

33:32

attempts and oh, I'm so sorry.

33:34

It's the most horrifying,

33:37

horrifying story

33:39

in situation. The victims

33:41

would have to be, you know, out of

33:43

all the work I've done would be the

33:46

worst suffering ones that I have seen if

33:48

I put myself completely separate. Yeah.

33:50

It's just appalling. And you,

33:52

as you mentioned earlier, you lost your career through

33:54

it. Yeah, I did. Yeah.

33:57

And I think, you know, that's really hard for me because

34:00

He tried to, he obviously tried to keep me

34:02

quiet when he was arrested

34:04

for the sexual crime. He then

34:07

openly said that it would have

34:09

come from me because he was

34:11

protected and then I

34:14

had a major accident and was in a

34:16

coma in February 21. So

34:19

I had an accident and

34:21

then my parents were

34:24

visited by some former

34:26

police officers and were

34:28

asked what my memory was and I

34:30

was in a coma, asked

34:32

what my memory was about internal affairs

34:35

and said it wouldn't be a negative thing if

34:38

I didn't survive because I was already told at

34:40

a hospital that I wouldn't survive anyway. And

34:43

I had literally been out

34:45

running and had got hit

34:47

coming the other side of,

34:49

well I don't know because I don't remember anything,

34:52

but had got hit by a bike or someone

34:54

coming over the narrow bridge. Do you remember it

34:56

was a hit and run? You don't know? Yeah,

34:58

no, I don't know. They

35:00

did speak to someone and wrote of

35:03

saying it was an accident because I

35:05

have no memory. I remember leaving home that

35:07

day and I remember waking up in hospital 10

35:09

days later. It's

35:11

been extraordinarily hard for

35:14

my family, yeah. I mean

35:16

they had no idea involving anything. It took me

35:18

a long time to tell them about anything. My

35:20

daughter has been right next to me through the

35:22

whole wave. She's done just 10-20. But

35:25

for my parents to be approached in the hospital by

35:28

police and asking what my memories were

35:31

of internal affairs and what

35:33

did I know about it and I was,

35:36

it's just been absolutely terrible

35:39

for them. I mean after under investigations, run

35:41

a couple of weeks ago, my mum's had

35:43

a heart attack. So I've just, like

35:46

she's just been respected. So

35:48

I just, yeah. To

35:51

say the very least, it's just horrifying. It

35:53

is. We're seven years down the

35:55

track from your attack. Yeah. This

35:57

is how it works. This is the ongoing. effects

36:00

of this man's attack on you

36:02

and you're telling us there's at least 200

36:04

other women that he filmed.

36:09

So in 2022, Adrian Trevor Moore was

36:12

jailed for 30 years for drugging and

36:16

assaulting women. Yes. But

36:19

again, that's two years ago and

36:21

yet, obviously, as you say, your

36:24

mother's just suffered a heart attack and

36:27

we can't escape the

36:29

effect that this has had on her health,

36:31

on your health, on your child's health, on

36:33

everyone who loves you. And as

36:36

discussed, you've lost your career over it.

36:40

And I can't stop thinking

36:42

about the fact that you reached out to other

36:44

victims because, of course, this was your career. Your

36:47

career was trying

36:49

to help victims of sexual assault. Yeah.

36:52

This was your last purpose. Yeah. Where

36:55

do you see yourself from

36:58

here? I know every day is

37:00

about sort of putting one foot in front of

37:02

the other. But where

37:05

do you see yourself moving forward from

37:07

this on your best days? Yeah.

37:09

I mean, I think my, you know, I

37:12

still have an incredible sadness that

37:15

I'm no longer attached to the job

37:17

because that was my lifeline.

37:20

And so, you know,

37:22

I desperately want to do something where I'm

37:24

providing for victims going forward because I

37:27

do think that's still going to be my

37:29

lifeline. And I think that's probably

37:31

extraordinarily important for me and

37:34

for my family, you know, for my

37:36

son and my daughter and for

37:38

my parents. They knew what

37:40

was keeping me alive and who

37:44

have witnessed and seen and then been a

37:46

part of all of this for them. They

37:48

want to see me get back into being

37:50

able to help and support people as well.

37:52

But I'm still just feeling really

37:55

overwhelmed and just wishing that I

37:57

could turn my life back and stay at

37:59

the job I was in. Yeah,

38:01

you've been horribly, horribly let

38:03

down by Western Australian police, terribly

38:05

let down in so many ways as

38:07

a victim and as a member. And

38:11

I know there were calls for an independent

38:14

inquiry. I think a Royal Commission would

38:16

not be inappropriate, but they have recently

38:18

said that that won't be happening. Is

38:21

that correct? That has come via

38:23

under investigation. I haven't spoken to

38:25

them directly. So, yeah. I

38:28

mean, obviously it was

38:30

quite risky for me

38:32

doing that and making sure that

38:34

I was blatantly identified. But,

38:36

yeah, I mean, I've

38:38

probably taken as much of a stance as

38:40

I can. And I think for

38:42

me, that probably concerns me too, because I want to support

38:46

victims and help victims going ahead. But

38:48

then I would be concerned that victims

38:50

would then perhaps seem as being

38:52

a person who's just spoken publicly

38:55

and, you know, like, would

38:57

I be good support for them because

38:59

I've voiced out. So, I suppose

39:02

I'm very, very hard on myself as well.

39:04

I just wonder if it's going to benefit

39:07

anyone going forward. Oh, I

39:09

think so. I think that the only way

39:12

with these organisations like the

39:14

police, I think the only way

39:16

they move forward, unfortunately, is when

39:18

they are dragged, kicking and screaming.

39:20

I think there's fantastic people in

39:23

our police state by state. But

39:26

as monoliths, as huge organisations,

39:28

they can be just very

39:30

conservative, very driven

39:33

by old school male. They're

39:35

very, still can be very male dominated. They

39:38

can slip back. They can slip right back

39:40

and they can say all the right things.

39:42

They can put out the ad campaigns. They

39:44

can make all the promises. They

39:47

can still react in those same old

39:49

ways and they can only change by

39:51

being dragged, kicking and screaming forward and

39:53

only by people like you. There's

39:56

very much a boys club there that has been

39:58

for a very long time. but I'm

40:00

addressing it as a boys club can sometimes

40:03

be you know just thinking of

40:05

men only but it's the boys

40:07

club is does have women as a

40:09

part of that, you know of higher

40:11

ranking women who make

40:13

their choices to get to the positions that

40:16

they are by belonging to the boys club

40:18

and no disrespect to

40:20

them, but that is how they get

40:22

where they are. Yes, absolutely Yes by

40:24

choosing not to try and change anything

40:26

but to conform to it. Yeah,

40:28

absolutely Absolutely, and that needs

40:30

to be called out as well. This whole idea

40:32

that women just need to support other women is

40:35

facile, it's silly. We need

40:37

to support women who are actively changing

40:39

things for women. Yes, we do.

40:42

We do. What do you do

40:45

for your mental health now? I mean, you

40:47

know, even as we've spoken

40:49

about things today, we haven't spoken about

40:51

things terribly graphically but I mean when

40:53

you say things like he brought

40:55

a bag full of things that he had welded and that

40:58

he said, you know, if you

41:00

have any injuries just go and deal

41:02

with them. It's horrific, horrific stuff to

41:06

just sit for an afternoon and

41:08

chat about. How do you pull

41:11

yourself together after this conversation, bring it all

41:13

back together and keep moving forward? Yeah,

41:15

look, I mean obviously for me, I

41:17

still do a fair amount of work

41:19

with my psychologist and psychiatrist

41:21

who I have

41:24

to say I was always super negative about them

41:27

from the get go was never. Typical bloody copper.

41:29

Yeah Never my

41:31

thing and I remember the psychologist that I'm seeing

41:33

now I remember the first time sitting with her

41:35

when all this stuff turned to shit. This

41:38

would have been five years ago now and I remember

41:40

saying to her, look, I don't trust you I don't

41:42

know how you people work. Don't ask me how

41:44

I feel about this because it is and

41:47

I mean I through

41:50

them and when I had my

41:52

accident between my psychologist

41:54

and psychologist they were in contact with

41:56

each other because I had multiple fractures

42:00

and a traumatic brain injury. So

42:02

I had to do about 18 months of OT work

42:05

to be able to give my evidence in court for Mr.

42:07

Moore as well. So I

42:10

have been extraordinarily lucky and

42:12

I would openly say now that I

42:15

still need to do the

42:17

work with them and I know when things are

42:19

hard or I'm having a bit of a fall

42:21

down, I do get in contact

42:23

with them. So doing

42:26

the correct thing that normal people would do now

42:28

whereas I was pretty anti it

42:31

until the last five years. Thank

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you to our guest on Australian True Crime,

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Nicole Edwards. If

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