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This podcast is with my brother, Makad

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Brooks, who is an actor.

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He's currently a lead on Law & Order.

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He's also Jackson, Mortal Kombat. You may

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have seen him in many films. He's also

0:12

a musician, but more importantly than that,

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he is my fucking brother in

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this life, in every other

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life beyond this life. And

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we get to share stories of

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an initiatic pilgrimage

0:25

to Egypt. And we take our

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time and we tell these

0:29

unbelievable stories

0:32

that may actually be unbelievable

0:34

when you listen. So I invite you to listen

0:37

with an open mind and an open heart and

0:39

feel free to bring your full amount

0:41

of skepticism for everything we share

0:44

because it really is out of this world. And

0:46

part of that is because we were with an

0:49

otherworldly being, Matias DeStefano,

0:52

who remembers his past lives. And when I

0:54

ask him what his job is in this world,

0:57

he always says, ah, I'm a portal.

0:59

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both had the most powerful

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with my brother, Makad Brooks.

3:37

Well, Makad, my brother, we

3:39

have a cornucopia of feasts of

3:41

things that we can talk about. Let's

3:44

dig in. Let's dig in. Yeah, I mean, holy

3:46

shit. So much. So much, man.

3:48

There's so much. So we just got back from

3:51

Egypt like a week ago.

3:53

We're here in Montana now. Just

3:55

had an unbelievable summit with Fit for Service.

3:58

You did. You dropped some fire.

3:59

knowledge to the

4:02

Squad about chaos and

4:04

about our quantum existence. Thanks

4:06

for having me. Of course, brother. It was an honor.

4:09

It was an honor for all of us to have you share

4:11

your wisdom like that. Thank you.

4:13

And then there's a million things we could talk about that happened

4:16

in the last few years since we actually had

4:18

a podcast. It's been a while, yeah. I

4:20

think since it's fresh, let's

4:22

just go into Egypt, man. Because

4:25

Egypt, Egypt, Egypt fucks.

4:27

Egypt fucks. Egypt fucks. Egypt fucks

4:30

souls. I don't

4:32

mean like it fucks with souls. It

4:36

makes love to souls. It shares

4:38

intimacy to souls. Like, I don't think there's...

4:42

This is going to be a strong statement, but I think that

4:45

perhaps every human soul has gone

4:47

through Egypt at some point in time in the last hundred

4:49

thousand years. Yeah. For sure.

4:52

Yeah. It just feels familiar

4:54

to everybody. There's a richness

4:56

there that's mind

4:59

blowing. In the backdrop of Egypt, I mean, Egypt's

5:02

an intense place, like just

5:04

the nature of it. And then it also

5:07

has the antiquity element of it. This

5:09

history of spiritual practices

5:12

that you can feel have been real.

5:15

Guardians of the temples, the

5:17

gods and goddesses that have

5:19

been actualized either

5:22

because they were original from Genesis

5:24

or they've been actually called

5:27

forth by the worship

5:29

itself for these thousands

5:31

of years to coalesce this

5:34

particular formation and pattern of energy

5:37

and call it Osiris or call it Horus or call

5:40

it Isis. But there's many names in many

5:42

cultures for these archetypal energies, but Egypt

5:44

has a particular signature

5:47

to these beings and these energies

5:49

that we got to experience. And part of

5:51

the reason we got to experience it, yes, we're

5:54

open to such things. This is part of our

5:56

practice, part of our life. But we also happen

5:58

to be with Matthias motherfucker.

5:59

fucking to Stefano. Unbelievable.

6:02

Just an oracle and a t-shirt. Just

6:05

like, oh, so you're a whole

6:07

complete oracle

6:09

that also makes crazy

6:11

jokes. Yeah. And

6:14

eats a lot of cake. And

6:17

he's just

6:18

going to Egypt with Matthias, I

6:21

would imagine has to be like going

6:25

to rural France with

6:29

Joan of Arc or something. I just don't even

6:31

know how to explain it. It's just something

6:34

else. It's really indescribable. And

6:36

I want to jump to a moment to

6:39

explain a

6:40

moment where Matthias got

6:42

real, real for you in

6:45

particular, you and our

6:47

brother Justin. So this is, we're

6:49

going a little bit out of order here. Because

6:53

there was first the Temple of Isis, and I want to tell

6:55

some Temple of Isis stories, the Temple of Philae,

6:57

which was one of the most beautiful places I've ever

6:59

seen in the face of this earth. And

7:01

in Vailana, I got to do a sound healing in the courtyard,

7:04

the first ever amplified sound healing. An

7:07

amazing job also. Mad

7:09

respect to the Daybreaker crew. And

7:12

Radha and Eli. Like

7:15

the whole crew really killed it. They all killed

7:17

it. So we're going to skip over

7:19

the first Temple on the initiatic path,

7:22

which is the Temple of Isis with a little asterisk

7:24

and a footnote that will go back and talk about the Temple

7:26

of Isis. But we're going to talk

7:29

about the second Temple.

7:30

And it was Kamumbra, Kamumbra?

7:33

Kamumbra. Kamumbra. And

7:35

this is a Temple where there's a master

7:38

of unity

7:40

and also

7:42

darkness and shadow. Duality. Duality.

7:45

Yeah.

7:46

And Matthias, so Matthias is going,

7:48

and I'll start the story. And then it'll get to

7:50

the part where I hear story really kicks in. I'll

7:53

start the story where Matthias is channeling.

7:55

He's got his little, he's got like a shroud

7:58

over his head. And he's channeling this.

7:59

this being, and the being is calling everybody

8:02

out,

8:03

calling people out for being liars,

8:05

not being authentic, claiming

8:07

true love and not participating

8:10

in true love, participating in the games

8:12

of duality in the

8:15

intentional ignorance of our

8:17

unity, right? So he's calling it, but it's

8:20

interesting because Matthias English

8:22

is a second language and the channel's coming through

8:24

and it's coming through to inform

8:27

us. So it's coming through in English because

8:29

he wants to teach us, the being that's coming through

8:31

him wants to teach us, but

8:33

it's weird. It's not Matthias'

8:36

English. No. Right. It's a

8:38

different,

8:38

it's a being translating

8:41

whatever their native tongue is into that- Into

8:44

Matthias' second language of English. Right,

8:46

and it's just, it's unbelievable. He uses words

8:48

he doesn't use normally. Yeah.

8:51

Maybe he doesn't have a mastery of or, and

8:53

you can tell that you're in the

8:55

presence of something happening, just energetically.

8:58

And vocally. Like it's

9:01

there for your ears to hear. Yeah.

9:05

So he leads us through, winding

9:07

through the halls of this temple, going to all

9:09

the secret spots. And he finally

9:11

ends up in this kind of standing crypt

9:14

thing and Vilana's singing behind him and

9:16

he's saying wild shit. And

9:19

then he just books and takes off, right?

9:21

And typically I'm like right on his heels because

9:23

I want a part of that magic, but I could feel

9:26

the group, like what the fuck just happened?

9:28

And I was like, I gotta bring

9:28

this thing together. And he ran right by

9:30

you. Yeah. So everybody's looking and

9:33

then their eyes just kind of fall on you. Yeah. And

9:35

you're like, uh. Yeah, so I was like, all right. I

9:37

brought him, so let me close

9:40

this up. I'm partially responsible. I'm almost mostly

9:42

responsible for this. So I'm gonna

9:44

try and wrap this up in a little bow so everybody

9:46

can go to sleep tonight. And so

9:49

I just like guide people through a little

9:51

meditation, a little om, and then

9:53

you and Justin

9:55

go with Matthias behind

9:57

the temple.

9:59

This was an experience that

10:01

only you guys were there. So

10:03

I'm gonna let you take off and tell

10:05

this story from here to

10:08

just give a flavor of

10:10

the gravitas of what we were fucking

10:12

dealing with in Egypt.

10:17

Let me preface this story by saying,

10:23

you may not believe me. I

10:26

also don't care if you believe me. I

10:29

wouldn't believe me if I wasn't there. Let

10:31

me just preface it by saying that because it's very

10:33

present and

10:36

very true. So

10:39

Mattias finishes channeling and runs. He

10:45

runs off, like he literally runs off. You

10:49

start handling the closure of that

10:52

channeling ceremony. Let's call it

10:54

that. And I'm

10:57

in presence of that. And then something in my

10:59

awareness goes, go with him. Is it okay?

11:03

So I take off with purpose towards

11:05

the direction he went.

11:08

He went behind the temple to this huge wall

11:10

of hieroglyphics. And

11:13

I see him

11:16

with his hand on the wall, squatting

11:18

or kneeling. And I see this guard

11:20

behind him trying to talk to him. And the guard is

11:22

realizing that he's not responding.

11:26

So the guard steps back in reverence,

11:31

frankly, because

11:33

I think he understands what's happening. And

11:36

then something told me to go kneel on

11:38

Mattias' left side behind him.

11:42

And Mattias, or

11:45

let's say whoever he was channeling

11:50

kind of looks towards me, acknowledges me, respectfully.

11:53

And I keep my distance and I'm

11:55

just kind of there holding space.

11:58

And then the next thing I do is I keep my distance. I know, my

12:01

hand goes up and I'm pulled to the wall

12:04

like a magnet. I

12:06

didn't walk. I

12:09

didn't have a lot of free will in that moment. My

12:11

hand went up and it drew

12:14

my hand to the wall onto a certain hieroglyph

12:17

and it stuck me there. And

12:21

I let go. I surrendered to that experience

12:23

and then some chanting

12:25

started coming out of me and then

12:28

Matias is chanting.

12:30

And this is when I noticed Razvani,

12:32

Justin Razvani

12:34

on the right side of Matias behind him.

12:36

And

12:39

he has his hand on the wall and

12:41

he's just kind of feeling things and

12:44

we're all just there and

12:47

holding space. And

12:49

it's just you three in the guard. Just

12:51

us three in the guard. At

12:54

this point in time, Matias

12:58

is getting louder with

13:01

his channeling and the guard is stepping back and...

13:05

And this is like midnight, by the way. Just

13:07

to set the time. I mean, I don't know why we went

13:10

to a temple of duality. At

13:12

midnight. At midnight. But that's

13:14

where we were. At midnight. I highly recommend

13:17

and don't recommend at

13:19

all. And so we're there. The next

13:21

thing I know as my chanting...

13:25

I'm self-conscious about what I'm doing. I'm like,

13:28

am I doing something? Am

13:30

I being an actor right now? Am I adding my own

13:33

flavor to this? What's happening? Because

13:35

I really never had that happen. But I remember Matias

13:37

gave a talk early on, you and Matias gave a talk early

13:39

on, conversation on the boat.

13:42

And Matias talked about

13:44

that we are the AI

13:47

of the mineral world. And

13:50

I remember thinking to myself, well, I guess I'm

13:52

talking to the minerals and

13:54

I

13:59

I felt a little something. I felt, you

14:02

know, like almost like a recognition or

14:05

an acknowledgement from the minerals in the

14:07

temple. Yeah, the consciousness of the

14:09

atomic

14:10

wall, the atomic structure

14:12

of the walls themselves. Right. Like

14:15

the quartz, all of that. When you're

14:17

speaking on an atomic level, everything's alive.

14:19

Yeah. Right? And so

14:22

the atoms in me were communicating

14:24

with the atoms of the temple. I've

14:26

come to understand that way and accept

14:28

it that way.

14:31

All of a sudden, and this is the part

14:33

you don't have to believe.

14:37

And I wouldn't, if I wasn't there myself,

14:41

the wall started vibrating like a

14:45

speaker at a concert.

14:47

Like if you ever put your hand on

14:50

a really big speaker and it's like

14:52

that,

14:55

it feels almost malleable like

14:57

a trampoline,

14:58

all of a sudden, I'm

15:01

like, what the fuck is going on?

15:04

Oh, next thing I know, Matthias

15:06

yells, he gets thrown

15:09

back with

15:11

his feet in the air. Like

15:14

his feet, like it's funny actually, because

15:18

it's like a Steve Martin company. He's like,

15:21

he's got his hand on the wall. Next thing I know it's vibrating.

15:23

Next thing I know he shot back, his feet

15:26

are like this, like next to my shoulders.

15:29

He lands on the ground, maybe 10 feet

15:31

back, slides. And

15:34

as soon as he hits the ground, all the

15:36

lights went out. I

15:41

was like, did he land on a light switch? Like

15:44

I was like, wait, what? I make movies

15:46

for a living. I make TV shows for a living.

15:50

This would take five or six takes for people to get

15:52

right. It

15:55

felt like being on a movie set where everything

15:57

just happened perfectly. And I'm sitting here looking

15:59

for the drive-in.

15:59

like, cut, like what? Like,

16:02

Justin goes, oh my God. And

16:04

I go, holy shit. The

16:08

security guard goes, oh my God.

16:11

Like, he starts praying, I'm not kidding. He's

16:13

like, he's going nuts.

16:16

Matthias is recovering.

16:19

When you go to him, we try to lift him up. He's

16:22

like coughing and like packing

16:25

and like, you know,

16:26

burping and all these things are coming out of him.

16:30

His eyes are not back yet. Like, they're in the

16:32

top of his head. And

16:34

we're trying to lift him up and he's just like not quite

16:36

there. Then we finally get him up and the guard

16:39

comes over and goes, Monsieur, Monsieur, you okay?

16:41

You okay? And Matthias goes, yeah.

16:46

And he starts burping and coughing more and like, he's

16:49

coming back, he's coming back. And then

16:51

we're holding him up

16:54

and Justin and I are like,

16:57

did we fucking just see? Did we

16:59

see what we just saw? Did

17:01

the wall just throw him 10 feet

17:04

that way? And

17:06

he, it's when he hit the ground, the lights went off.

17:10

And it wasn't like all the temple lights went

17:13

off. It was just the lights where we were. Yeah. It's

17:15

like three big lights that were lighting up the wall

17:18

and lighting up where we were, it all went off

17:20

and they didn't come back on.

17:23

And the rest of the temple lights were on.

17:26

So call

17:28

it what you will. I

17:33

felt like something

17:35

came out of Matthias and jumped back

17:37

into the wall and that caused his,

17:41

caused a kinetic reaction of energy. Yeah,

17:44

absolutely. And that was the part. So when I

17:46

saw Justin after that, like

17:50

you've traversed. I've seen crazy. You've

17:52

traversed the psychedelic threshold and

17:55

traveled through many dimensions, seen a lot of shit.

17:57

So you were, you were kind of, your

17:59

mind was blown.

17:59

but you were also holding it with kind of like

18:02

a smile and kind of like a God

18:04

dead, that was some fucking shit. Justin

18:06

was just wide eyed, like the first

18:09

time someone saw a UFO or like

18:11

a ghost. I had to hold

18:13

Justin up on the walk back. Like he was

18:15

wobbling.

18:16

Like he almost fainted.

18:19

And I've

18:23

seen things that I can't explain since I was a kid.

18:25

And I've seen things I can't explain,

18:28

but this

18:30

was in the realm of top five,

18:32

top 10, where I was

18:35

like, magic is real. Yeah.

18:37

Magic is real. There

18:39

was a kinetic response. There

18:42

was minerals communicating. There was a being

18:44

communicating through him. I saw

18:46

a kinetic response from the wall,

18:49

felt it, saw him get

18:51

shot back, propelled back 10 feet. Like

18:54

I thought he hurt himself. That's

18:56

not somebody throwing themselves back for performative

18:59

reasons. Like he

19:02

could have hurt himself. Like really, like I

19:04

was like, oh my God. Like this is

19:06

like poltergeist. They just whipped his ass.

19:08

I was like, oh shit. Like it was, I was

19:11

like,

19:11

is he okay?

19:17

And that's what fuck with Justin

19:20

the most. The thing is, cause you know, Justin's

19:22

a psychonaut as well. And we've done ayahuasca together.

19:25

You see things in your visions, but you're like, okay,

19:27

it's cool when they're in the visions. And it's

19:29

in this other realm of

19:32

things that you see and maybe emotions

19:34

that you can feel, maybe a little heat in your hands

19:37

or maybe, but those can all be expressed by

19:39

like just different blood flow patterns and

19:41

things. You can explain all those away. You can explain

19:43

all those away. But what really fucked with them was that,

19:47

you couldn't explain this away. And it crossed

19:50

the threshold of Newtonian

19:52

physics, where at a certain point,

19:55

that's not in his mind, that's

19:57

not supposed to be possible.

19:58

Where it's like, you can have this.

19:59

whole visionary quantum realization

20:02

of possibility in that state. But then when

20:04

it crosses the threshold where actually

20:07

weight, matter is

20:10

being dispelled. Is being dispelled.

20:12

That's where it got really,

20:14

that's where it shifted a whole worldview. And

20:17

I think still, I wasn't there

20:19

for it, but I, and I wish I, I mean, I

20:21

wish I was in some regards, but I also

20:23

don't have a difficult time actually

20:25

believing that. But for someone like Justin,

20:27

it was like, he has

20:29

to integrate that by either isolating

20:32

that as an incident and explaining

20:34

it away as it, as if it didn't happen

20:37

or weave it into his

20:39

worldview. And that's what integration really is. It's

20:41

like, can you weave this new

20:44

truth into your entire

20:46

worldview? So the now,

20:48

the possibility that

20:50

magical, if you want to call it, or

20:52

psychic or, or ethereal

20:56

forces can actually move matter. Right.

20:58

Can move matter in an, in the 3D.

21:01

Well, it was like watching a

21:04

grand scale, like this, this, this

21:07

incredibly

21:09

grand collision of quantum mechanics

21:13

on a scale that you could, you could see.

21:15

Yeah. These were

21:17

Adams colliding with something that caused

21:20

this reaction. And you're just like,

21:23

what took him from here to there?

21:27

That's not a human being's abilities

21:29

to jump backwards that way.

21:32

And also try to try to keep themselves

21:34

safe. Like that, that, like he could have really hurt

21:36

himself if he was just doing that for

21:39

our benefit. Right.

21:41

And I don't know anybody who would do that in

21:43

their right mind. Right. And, and, and

21:46

like he skied. Yeah.

21:49

Like he, something through him

21:51

and I was standing right next to him and I,

21:54

and I, I felt the impact.

21:57

And I felt the wind get knocked out of him. I heard

21:59

it. I was

22:02

just like, wow. And

22:05

I felt the wall vibrating. So there's just

22:07

nothing that I can do to try to explain it away. I

22:10

have to weave this into my worldview, which is somehow

22:13

in some ways, regrettably

22:15

not so hard. Yeah.

22:22

Because I've seen so much, but at the same time, I

22:25

feel blessed to have seen that. Yeah, for

22:27

sure. I feel completely blessed to have seen that. It reminds me of that.

22:29

It's like in that

22:31

Patrick Swayze ghost movie,

22:34

where the ghost starts knocking shit over in the

22:36

subway. It's like the ghost is actually

22:38

able to cross the threshold and

22:41

move shit around. And that's

22:43

the moment where you realize you can... And

22:46

those are the moments that are the paradigm

22:48

shifting. But the purpose of this story

22:50

is just to express the

22:52

world

22:54

that we were abiding in as

22:56

we were in Egypt. And so

22:59

I wanted to tell that story first to

23:01

give people an idea of, we

23:04

were in, not only in Egypt,

23:06

but we were in a different entire

23:09

paradigmatic place,

23:12

like where

23:14

different things were possible

23:16

and magic was very

23:18

real and not just real in our mind, but

23:21

real in ways that we could feel it. In

23:23

a three-dimensional physical sense in

23:25

which we could experience its results and

23:28

its effects. And

23:30

yeah, the way you're putting it is perfect because we

23:33

were in Egypt,

23:34

but we were also somewhere else.

23:36

There was a layer of this other dimension

23:41

laid upon where we were physically

23:43

as well. And Mattias brought us there

23:45

every time. And

23:48

I think that, yeah, we were in Egypt for

23:50

two weeks, but we were also in this other dimension,

23:52

existing in this other dimension,

23:55

gathering codes from this other dimension, gathering

23:57

lessons in this other dimension, which...

24:00

have already helped me in my life, frankly.

24:04

Yeah,

24:07

I'm still integrating. Of course, this is like,

24:09

it was such

24:15

an unbelievably powerful

24:17

journey. So we'll go back to the temple

24:19

of Isis. And the temple of Isis, now that you've heard

24:22

this story from the second temple, the

24:25

temple of Isis in Philae,

24:29

again, Matthias is doing his magical

24:31

things. And

24:34

one of the things that he did, we're going

24:36

into the Holy of Holies, and

24:38

Matthias looks down to his left

24:41

and he sees this

24:42

mother cat.

24:44

And then he just, without even changing

24:46

his gaze, he puts his palm down

24:49

on the ground and the

24:52

kitten climbs into his other

24:54

right palm. And he just swoops

24:57

up this kitten. And the kitten comes up from under

24:59

the floorboards. From under the floorboards. He

25:01

didn't know it was there. No one knew the kitten

25:03

was there. The kitten emerged. The

25:05

kitten appeared. The

25:08

kitten manifested. And

25:10

then comes in and rests

25:12

in his palm.

25:14

Matthias knows exactly what to do, goes

25:17

in, walks into the Holy of Holies.

25:19

Which is where there's an altar there. Those

25:22

of you who don't know the Holy of Holies, it's the center focus

25:25

of any temple, it has an altar. Yep.

25:29

And he's holding this kitten.

25:31

And I have to say, I was like, is

25:34

this going to get dark? Matthias gonna

25:36

bite his kitten's head off? I was

25:38

like, I was more in the fish. Exactly.

25:41

But he was channeling Isis, so of course not.

25:43

It's the divine mother. And so the kitten was just

25:46

purring and meowing and he's

25:48

holding up the kitten in the temple. And

25:51

Philon is singing and Matthias is

25:53

toning. And you just feel the

25:56

energy, the abundance and

25:58

the fertility.

25:59

And

26:01

the sense of Isis, now Isis

26:03

is a part of so many M-A-G-I-C-K

26:07

magical rituals that we do in

26:09

the West, like Isis, Isis, Isis, Dex,

26:11

there's Isis.

26:13

But in Isis' temple, it feel

26:16

like I got to feel her for

26:18

the first time. It was like,

26:20

oh, wow. You know,

26:22

and it's like a signature of Aphrodite

26:25

and a signature of the great mother and

26:27

Venus and

26:30

Gaia and all of these things,

26:33

but it's its own, yeah, it's its

26:35

own particular signature. She

26:37

has her way. She has her

26:39

way. And she would just

26:42

reveal different downloads

26:44

and different things that we're still integrating, like

26:47

the Isis messages. And some

26:49

of it just shakes you like, what the fuck?

26:53

You know what I mean? Like massive, massive,

26:56

massive.

26:58

And that to me was when I was like,

27:01

oh, wow, there's something different that's gonna happen. Now,

27:03

I will say that my

27:06

home medicine, the medicine that

27:08

really opens me up to the extrasensory

27:11

perception is the combination of

27:13

ketamine and cannabis, right? And I've shared

27:16

this many times. And this was with

27:18

me in many of these different journeys,

27:20

not in particularly high doses.

27:23

No, you don't need it. You don't need it,

27:25

but it was with me. So it opened me up, you

27:27

know, that's what allowed

27:28

me to feel it. But as I was open,

27:31

the texture and the

27:34

gravity of

27:36

the energy that you would feel

27:39

in each place was astounding.

27:43

My medicine of choice for

27:45

the most part was psilocybin, a little

27:47

bit of cannabis, ca annubis,

27:49

if you will. And it's almost like, I'm not gonna

27:52

come out here and

27:55

say,

27:59

I understood the hieroglyphs.

28:03

But

28:03

they spoke to me in a different way than I

28:06

could imagine.

28:08

I was led to different hieroglyphs

28:10

sometimes to put my hand on them and understood

28:13

that there was a technology of touching them, almost like

28:15

Braille.

28:16

And they weren't just

28:18

for

28:19

deciphering and looking at, but

28:22

there was an experiential

28:25

relationship, I think, that the ancient Egyptians and

28:27

the Khmer people had

28:29

with touching

28:32

the hieroglyphs. And that was very

28:34

present for me.

28:36

And I think psilocybin helped bring

28:38

that out. And

28:41

also, you could just feel the amount of

28:45

love and devotion and

28:48

purpose

28:54

that people had put into those walls. Not

28:57

just in the structure, not

28:59

just in the building process, but

29:02

the centuries, the millennia

29:04

of coming there to worship

29:07

and

29:09

building a relationship with the spirit

29:11

of that temple.

29:13

That was so present. That was what was really

29:15

unique, is that there's not a lot of places

29:17

where temples that old still

29:20

exist with the same altars that

29:22

were used in the magical rituals, the same

29:24

walls. And if you live

29:27

in an animistic universe, which

29:29

most medicine people who, once you go in, you

29:31

have an animistic viewpoint, this is what Don Howard

29:33

would explain, is you recognize that all

29:36

things are alive. And if

29:38

you don't think that, just go to the atomic

29:40

scale. And then, yes, they are scientific. And

29:43

that's

29:43

all we are. Everything is alive. And

29:47

so the walls are holding the memory of

29:49

all of the worship that's been there. Everything

29:52

that's been happening, it's

29:55

there and it's accessible because

29:57

the walls still stand.

29:59

for however many thousands of years, and the

30:02

Adams haven't changed. Exactly. Maybe

30:04

they've been exchanged in some way, but they haven't changed.

30:06

The memory is still there,

30:08

and they're holding those intentions

30:11

and those...

30:14

I don't know what the word is. They're holding

30:16

the ka

30:18

of the people who have been there over

30:20

millennia. And it's fuck, you can just

30:22

feel it.

30:23

It's unbelievable. Yeah. All

30:25

right. So now let's move along

30:28

to the initiatic path to

30:30

the temple of Horus. Oh my God.

30:34

The temple of Horus. Now we get

30:36

up real early. We do some yoga

30:39

at dawn. We got to four, right? Four

30:41

o'clock. Four o'clock. We left at

30:43

four. Left at four, four o'clock. We're gonna have to do something. And

30:45

that's right after the, right after the como

30:47

bro. And it's, we're

30:50

going straight into the temple of Horus. For four hours of

30:52

sleep. Yeah. And

30:54

maybe less. And we're doing, we do

30:57

yoga in the morning. I'm like, really? Do we need

30:59

to do yoga? And maybe slept, but it was beautiful.

31:01

It was beautiful. So we get in there exhausted

31:04

and we start going into the temple of

31:06

Horus.

31:07

And the temple of Horus, very

31:09

special shit

31:11

started happening for

31:13

you in the temple of Horus. And for me, it

31:15

was the temple of Dendra. And I'll tell that

31:17

temple, temple story where my

31:19

big activation happened was different

31:21

temple on the path. But this is time

31:24

for you to tell your story in

31:26

the temple of Horus. Oh. Because

31:31

that's when she got real weird and

31:33

in the most beautiful way, W-Y-R-D

31:37

and that magical weird.

31:41

W-Y-R-D, W-H-Y-R-D, wired. Why

31:45

did this, why me? Why

31:48

did this happen?

31:50

Let

31:54

me start the story off by,

31:57

reminding eight or nine years ago.

32:01

I'm

32:03

at an ayahuasca ceremony that I set

32:06

up in Ojai. It's

32:07

about 20 people there.

32:10

And it was a three-day ceremony, a three-day

32:13

ceremonial process. And on

32:15

the third day, I have

32:18

this, these

32:20

visions

32:23

about being

32:26

in ancient Egypt.

32:27

And they're fairly monotonous visions.

32:31

It was me and another guy.

32:33

We're teenagers. And

32:35

we're laughing and making fun of who

32:38

I think is our father, who's giving a speech.

32:41

These big pillars everywhere. And it

32:43

felt older than Egypt. So you're in a vision

32:45

space with a guy in the actual 3D

32:47

in your 30s, 40s.

32:49

No, 30s. 30s.

32:51

You think I'm 50, bro? Yeah, yeah. I was

32:54

like, you're 40 now. But

32:57

in the vision, you were teenagers. So

33:00

in the vision space,

33:02

I'm a teenager. I'm maybe 17, 18, 19, maybe.

33:06

And he's 15 years old

33:09

about that. Now

33:11

mind you, the other guy who's with me in the vision

33:13

is also in the ceremony. He's

33:15

an acquaintance of mine.

33:21

And

33:25

we're, it's a monotonous sort of vision.

33:28

We're like laughing at some

33:31

father figure. Maybe he's our father. I

33:33

don't know. Maybe we're brothers. I don't

33:36

recall. And in this vision space, we're making

33:38

fun of his speech. There's these big pillars

33:40

and it felt a little older

33:42

than ancient Egypt. Maybe it was Kem.

33:45

And

33:50

I remember that we

33:53

had gone boating that day of canoeing

33:56

or something. And like, I hit him

33:58

with a paddle or something like that.

33:59

He was really upset about that. And

34:03

it was like, well, these memories were like, oh,

34:06

well, you know, I treated somebody wrong. Like it wasn't like

34:08

this grand sort of like,

34:10

oh my God. Yeah, it was just

34:12

like normal. Oh, you got a mosquito on you. Whack, I'm

34:14

gonna hit you with a paddle. It was more of like, it

34:17

was more like,

34:18

if you can't out paddle me, you get hit. That

34:20

kind of thing, right? And it was like this really

34:22

monotonous sort of like

34:24

very mundane memory

34:27

of ancient Egypt. It's like, it wasn't like this big

34:29

sort of revelation. It was just like, okay,

34:31

that's interesting that I'm having this.

34:33

And I remember I felt bad. So

34:35

I had this indivision space.

34:37

I had this water

34:40

that was this condensed ball of water from Atlantis.

34:44

And it was like an heirloom.

34:47

So I gave it to him to make him feel better.

34:49

And he appreciated it.

34:52

So after the ceremony is over, it's

34:54

the next morning. And he comes and

34:56

lays down next to my mat. And he goes,

35:01

we were in ancient Egypt together, huh?

35:03

I go, yeah, yeah,

35:05

wow. I was like, you know that?

35:07

He's like, yeah, it's very clear. So we start

35:09

talking about

35:11

both of our visions

35:12

and they're directly

35:15

aligned. There's

35:15

no space in between them.

35:18

Wow, we're both at these pillars for both

35:20

laughing at the father figure. I gave him the ball

35:22

of water. I had whacked him with a paddle.

35:25

He had more insight on that part of the story because

35:28

he remembered it and he was mad at me. He

35:31

was mad at me now for thousands of years

35:33

later for hitting him with a paddle or

35:35

something. I don't know.

35:38

And then he's looking at me

35:40

and he goes, you know, I came

35:42

across that condensed water

35:44

you gave me in this life. It's

35:47

a crystal.

35:48

I was like, get out of here.

35:49

And he goes back to his mat and he comes over and

35:52

he hands me

35:53

this crystal ball about this big.

35:55

Little

35:57

smaller than a golf ball. Yeah. Yeah,

36:00

maybe a tiny ping pong. A

36:03

ping pong? Yeah, yeah, that kind of

36:06

thing. And

36:07

I was astounded because I remember it

36:09

looked just like that. And I was like, what the fuck?

36:11

This is crazy. He's like, I always knew this was someone

36:13

else's. I just didn't know who. And

36:16

he gave it to me. And you know, fast

36:19

forward

36:20

many years later, a

36:21

couple moves, different countries, bunch

36:24

of movies,

36:25

you're packing stuff up, unpacking. I

36:27

lost it. It was gone. Had

36:30

no idea where it was. But I knew that one

36:33

day if I was going to go to Egypt that I should bring

36:35

it because that's where it came from.

36:38

So fast

36:41

forward to the last day that they

36:43

were leaving for Egypt. It

36:46

pops into my conscience. It's like, fuck, I really wish

36:48

I could find that thing. It's just like, that's, you

36:50

know, it's not it's not here.

36:52

I opened up my medicine cabinet in my in

36:54

my bathroom and in front of my toothbrush

36:57

is this little Indian bag that

36:59

I've never seen before. And

37:01

I'm like, this

37:02

is in front of my toothbrush. I

37:05

open it up. There's the ball.

37:09

I tell Frieda, she's like, you know, I've seen that

37:11

bag that's kind of popping up here and there. I didn't know

37:13

what it was. I was like, you have something. Yeah, I was like,

37:16

I haven't seen this in years. So

37:19

I'm like, OK, this ball wants to go home. Great. You

37:22

know, I've seen other crazy shit. This is not

37:24

like this is part of my worldview at this point. I can

37:26

I can I can weave this into my worldview. Fine.

37:28

Cool.

37:30

Take the ball with me. I bring it to the temple

37:32

of Isis. It's like it doesn't resonate there. And

37:34

so I keep it on me.

37:37

Kamombo.

37:40

Doesn't resonate there. OK, cool.

37:43

We're doing yoga.

37:46

And the ball falls out of the bag.

37:48

Right. Like out of my medicine bag,

37:51

out of this bag.

37:51

It's in there.

37:54

And the ball in the Indian

37:56

bag comes out. It's

37:58

like just sitting there like.

38:01

Oh, okay.

38:03

It's letting me know something. I

38:06

grabbed the ball. During

38:08

the yoga I had, you know, and I have an on again,

38:10

off again relationship with yoga. It's like

38:13

a ex-girlfriend I can't quit. Like,

38:16

she's great at so many things, but she's so

38:18

annoying. She's always pushing my

38:20

limits. I know, like, it makes me

38:22

get up early, and like, you know, like do

38:25

stuff with my body. I don't feel like doing. And

38:27

like, you know, so I'm judging the

38:29

yoga. It's

38:31

a lot for 4 a.m. And

38:35

there's a part of me, like halfway through the yoga,

38:37

where I just felt this other activation

38:40

happening, and it wasn't the

38:41

yoga.

38:43

It was the temple. And I felt

38:45

these mudras just started happening,

38:48

right?

38:51

And I was just like, okay, just go with

38:53

it, whatever, it's fine. We,

38:58

we,

39:01

we open up,

39:03

we close the ceremony, we roll up

39:05

the mats, we start going into the temple, and

39:07

then

39:08

they start gathering our groups. Now, by

39:10

this time, I

39:12

was well aware that I didn't want to

39:14

be part of the Egyptologists, you

39:16

know, taking the tour of the temples, because it's just gonna be

39:19

like, oh, and this is this, and this, and this, and

39:21

this, and this, and this, and this, and that's right,

39:23

that's fine. But I was on the Matias

39:26

tour. Like we all just decided

39:28

to be on the Matias tour. And

39:30

so I'm talking to Frida

39:33

and Shadia,

39:34

the two loves of my life. And

39:37

I'm saying, I'm gonna go find Matias,

39:40

you guys do what you want to do, but I feel called to find Matias.

39:43

And like, so they're, you know, Sariah

39:46

and Shadia taking some pictures, Frida's kind of lingering

39:48

here and there, and then I get drawn

39:51

to

39:52

Horace's spalcon,

39:54

this big statue. And

39:59

then, Josh Barber hands me these birdseeds

40:02

as an offering.

40:05

And I put my hand on the falcon. It's

40:07

about 15, 18 feet tall.

40:11

And I remember, I

40:15

offered the birdseed like that.

40:17

And I just went,

40:20

the birdseed hits the statue.

40:23

And then it comes back to my chest

40:25

as if it was thrown back at me.

40:29

And then that was it.

40:31

And something happened where I

40:33

kind of got tunnel vision.

40:35

And it was like I was almost blacking

40:38

out, but trying to hold on. Yeah.

40:40

And I was like, wait, OK. And then I started

40:43

just leaning on the statue. And

40:46

here I was just like, OK, I'm not really sure what's

40:48

happening.

40:51

I was just

40:53

trying to process what just happened.

40:55

And also this overwhelming feeling

40:57

of

41:01

my lack of sovereignty as macaw.

41:06

From the outside,

41:08

from my perspective, that was right there. You

41:11

almost started to sweat a little bit. And

41:13

it was like you were

41:15

almost fainting.

41:17

And it was this kind of like this

41:19

overwhelming rush of energy. And

41:22

you were trying to gather your bearings like, does

41:25

macaw need to come stand up in here

41:27

and get a hold of this situation? Or

41:30

can you just completely let go into

41:32

this new wave that was coming through

41:34

you? And I think that was happening like time

41:36

is whatever. But I think that maybe this is like 30 minutes

41:38

after that. Because this is what I remember.

41:42

I don't remember everything. I

41:44

remember going into the temple. I

41:47

remember finding two rooms

41:50

that I knew I

41:51

had been in before. Unmistakenly.

41:57

I saw this stairwell. halfway

42:00

across the stairwell, and

42:02

I knew that this wall had been put

42:04

here later because there's something on the other side of

42:07

it. I knew that.

42:11

And then I came back down, and then Frida's

42:13

like, Matisse is over here. Someone said Matisse is over

42:15

here. I don't remember who it was. And so I

42:17

go into this room Matisse is

42:19

in, and once again, I get pushed to the left

42:21

side of his being

42:24

and I kneel, and I'm touching

42:26

the wall. And

42:28

as I'm touching the wall,

42:31

the geometry starts coming in.

42:33

Like, your listeners

42:35

and your viewers will know what I'm talking about

42:37

when I say that. It's that sacred geometry

42:40

that happens during a psychedelic experience.

42:44

It was like

42:47

feeling...

42:52

It was like being in a mushroom ceremony. Yeah,

42:55

a DMT ceremony. Not quite. It was,

42:57

because

42:58

DMT sometimes everything goes away. Yeah. This

43:01

was

43:02

working with what you were actually... This was

43:05

very interactive and very sort of present

43:10

in a way that it felt... Because DMT is like this rocket

43:12

ship where sometimes it's not comforting.

43:14

This was very comforting. This was very like,

43:16

accept this, accept this, accept

43:18

what's happening to you. And Matisse

43:21

had told me about how he feels

43:23

when he's channeling. And he says that he feels

43:25

like he's falling and that he's just falling into this

43:28

abyss.

43:29

And you can feel

43:33

the physical

43:36

space of his body consciousness

43:38

falling, but he's never hitting the ground.

43:41

I didn't experience that. What I experienced was almost

43:44

like a void that was put in front of me

43:46

in between the constant observer and

43:49

who I considered to be Macaw. And then

43:52

at light speed, that void became

43:55

infinite.

43:57

And I said, wait, where's that going? Where's that? I

43:59

was I'm supposed to be over there. I'm supposed to be way over

44:01

there. I'm not in the

44:03

forefront. What's happening? And I realized

44:06

I was kind of in the middle. Like I wasn't in the back.

44:08

I was like in the middle of this expansive

44:10

void. And I was thinking to myself,

44:13

okay, this is overwhelming. And I think that's when you

44:15

started to see

44:16

the sweating and like the whole, wait,

44:19

hold on. What's happening here? And

44:21

then Matias puts his hand out

44:23

and he goes, horse.

44:26

And that thing that drug

44:28

me to the wall,

44:29

it was just like, I was like, how

44:32

am I answering to that?

44:33

Who do I think I am? Right? And

44:36

then I grabbed his hand and he grabs,

44:38

freed his hand. He says, Freya. And

44:40

she comes over and it's like, it's like a

44:42

slid.

44:43

Like I don't remember how I did it, but it was just like, like

44:46

I was like, I'm a realish guy. It's like, I'm

44:49

holding Matias's hand.

44:52

He's talking about a prophecy from the

44:54

gods of the south and the goddess

44:57

of the north. And he gets into

44:59

some

45:02

deep prophetic wisdom.

45:07

And it struck me

45:09

as

45:11

very true on some levels and very

45:14

scary on other levels. And

45:16

my human mind was fighting

45:19

for control of what was being

45:21

said or what was being received.

45:24

I don't like people telling me what to do. It's

45:28

gotta be my idea, cause I got good ideas.

45:33

And

45:35

unless it's the best idea wins, it's fine.

45:39

He walks away and then

45:41

I remember being there with Frida and embracing

45:43

her and

45:47

feeling like I needed to get out of that room.

45:50

I needed, I felt like I needed physical help.

45:53

So I walk out

45:54

and I come back into the,

45:55

for you, I don't know,

45:58

this big, bigger area.

45:59

of the temple where the pillars are.

46:03

And then I started seeing the pillars. I'm like, these

46:05

pillars are familiar.

46:07

I think this is where I was laughing

46:09

in that vision.

46:12

And I remember standing

46:14

there and I just remember trying

46:17

to talk to Matias.

46:19

And then Vailana comes over and starts holding

46:21

me and telling me something. And I don't understand

46:23

what you're saying. And then all

46:26

of a sudden everything goes.

46:29

And this is all black. And all I see is

46:31

Vailana's face.

46:33

And I think I fainted.

46:35

Right? That was the

46:37

moment I was talking about. I definitely lost

46:39

control of

46:44

my physical sovereignty. I didn't have

46:46

control. I wasn't strong enough

46:48

to stand. And it wasn't fatigue. I

46:51

was on no medicines.

46:54

I was simply unable.

46:57

To control my body at that time.

46:59

And I remember

47:01

later Justin said,

47:03

yeah, I had to grab your head because it almost

47:05

hit the wall. I was like,

47:07

was it like that? He was like that, bro. Yeah. I

47:10

was like, wow. And then I remember I was

47:13

on the ground and I was

47:15

speaking in

47:18

a different language.

47:20

And it was the language

47:23

that was coming through was

47:26

so potent and so

47:30

regal and so like ancient.

47:33

And also

47:36

like phonetically virtually

47:38

impossible. Some of the things that you

47:40

were saying, the way that the vibrato of your

47:42

voice was moving. I, yeah.

47:45

It's like, I don't, I did. I don't think

47:47

the human voice can really do that intentionally.

47:51

In normal consciousness. It was

47:54

like, what the fuck? Later,

47:56

Zach Bell tried to ask me to do it again.

47:59

And I couldn't. I was like, what is, I was

48:02

like, what is how? He's like, well, it was like you were, it

48:04

was like you were doing this nasal thing, but

48:07

the vibrato was like super fast and

48:10

loud. I was

48:11

like, I

48:12

have no idea what you're talking about.

48:15

And I saw a video and I was like, I can't do that.

48:18

I can't do that. There's no way I could do that.

48:20

Yeah.

48:22

And until I remember, I was, I was holding,

48:25

I thought it was you, but

48:26

it was Justin.

48:27

And I was saying something that

48:29

was meant for

48:31

my human mind. I thought it was for you, but

48:34

spiritually, I guess it was for him. Yeah.

48:36

And then I thought I was

48:38

holding Vailana

48:40

saying something to her

48:42

spiritually was wasn't for hers for Frida.

48:45

And

48:46

then as those, and

48:48

I knew exactly what I was saying in this other

48:50

language, and it totally made sense for

48:52

both of them.

48:54

Right. And

48:56

then I remember my arms shot

48:59

up and I just stood up like

49:01

with like almost like this force pushed

49:03

me up. And then you went to full power. So

49:05

that fainted macabre went all of a

49:07

sudden into a full embodied

49:10

clear

49:12

power, where I was like,

49:14

yeah, you were, you were good. Whatever that was.

49:16

So it was, I had

49:20

no control over my body, but my body was full,

49:22

was in full power. Yeah.

49:24

And I went to the walls and I started kissing

49:26

the feet of these different gods and goddesses.

49:29

And I knew who they were.

49:31

And I was

49:32

apologizing to some of them and I was angry

49:34

at some of them. And

49:35

I was like, why am I angry? Like,

49:37

why am I apologize? What did I do? What? And

49:40

it was just like, this, this thing was happening

49:42

and I was wiping things off and touching

49:45

the hieroglyphs again. And then I went into the other rooms

49:48

and

49:49

was, was chanting and toning and

49:51

singing to the walls once again. And

49:53

I went to, I went up halfway with a

49:56

stairwell was, and

49:57

I remember my body twisted doing something.

50:00

And I was, this

50:01

is how we used to open this part, but

50:03

it was closed now. And I was

50:05

upset about that. And

50:07

I remember somebody said to me, he was like, oh, this is beautiful.

50:10

And I was like, who are you? I was

50:12

like, what are you talking about? And I just kept moving.

50:14

I kept going to different rooms, different rooms. And

50:17

then we get to this one room. And

50:20

I remember

50:22

searching for the crystal.

50:30

Sorry, I'm just like, my body got put into space again.

50:45

It's just, I remember

50:47

searching for the crystal. And I remember

50:51

whatever this channel,

50:54

channeling experience was,

50:56

their mind,

50:59

was like digging in my bag

51:02

and goes,

51:03

you stupid humans in your fucking bags.

51:07

Why? Like, what are

51:09

you, what are these all these fucking bags you guys have?

51:12

And I was like,

51:13

offended. It

51:16

was a part of me, I was like, what do you mean? And

51:18

I think I'm getting emotional

51:21

because it's like,

51:23

it was as if

51:25

I was experiencing its own

51:27

frustration.

51:28

As my own.

51:30

And I was like, it felt like a psychotic break

51:33

in a way. Cause it was like, well, this is not my

51:35

frustration. I love this bag. I need

51:37

this bag.

51:40

But I really did feel, it used my

51:42

own receptors to be frustrated

51:45

about human beings using bags or something,

51:47

right? And I was like, this is so,

51:50

it feels so minute in the grand scheme

51:53

of things, but it was like, experientially for me,

51:55

it

51:56

was where I accepted that something else was in

51:58

me. And it was like, listen.

51:59

I'm used to wizards cloaks that

52:02

have couches where I know where everything

52:04

is. We don't have bags where all

52:06

of our sacred objects are transmuting, you

52:09

know, quantum energy

52:11

into what I need, right? From the ether.

52:13

Fine. But this bag? What is

52:16

this shit? So I remember I

52:18

couldn't get anything. So I think I just dumped the bag

52:20

out

52:21

or it just dumped the bag out and I got the crystal

52:23

and we're in this room where all

52:25

these little holes are in the wall

52:28

that are perfectly sized for this

52:30

crystal. And

52:32

I start putting it in the holes

52:34

and like rubbing it and

52:37

praying. And

52:38

I called you over and

52:40

you were doing the same. I think you remember

52:42

like this is how this went, right? Like people

52:44

would put these balls in these holes

52:46

and you would pray.

52:49

And then this transmission about water

52:52

came through me. And

52:55

the part that I remember was about

52:57

the fact that we're borrowing

52:59

the water in our body from the sky

53:03

and we're borrowing the water in our body from the earth.

53:06

And then it belongs to the sky and it belongs

53:09

to the earth. And because we are able to

53:11

hold that water, we are the

53:13

sentient receptors between the earth

53:16

and the heavens.

53:18

And that it's all sacred, all the water is sacred.

53:21

And so we're sacred beings because of the

53:23

water.

53:24

And I remember that part

53:28

distinctly. We

53:32

moved on to different rooms. Every room

53:34

we went into from that point on had a hole where

53:37

that ball fit in.

53:39

And I came out of another

53:42

room that Matias told me to go into and I dropped

53:44

the ball and then I couldn't hold on to it.

53:46

It was like vibrating and moving. So I would

53:48

drop it and it rolled over to this other guy, Carl.

53:53

And I

53:55

was like, part

53:57

of my human mind, my ego was like, why didn't it go to one of

54:00

one of my friends. I was

54:02

like, oh, that's Carl's new friend. And

54:04

I was like, and he starts

54:07

to walk over. I was like, no, grab that. He

54:09

grabs it. Now I didn't see a hole

54:11

in the wall prior to

54:13

this.

54:14

And I go, where's he gonna put that? I

54:16

look over, there it is. He

54:18

goes and does it. And I have my hand on his

54:20

back and he's channeling. I'm chanting. It's

54:23

a whole thing. And

54:27

he leaves the ball there. I take it

54:29

back out.

54:31

Metis calls us over. We go to the back of

54:33

the temple, this huge hieroglyphic

54:36

wall.

54:37

Metis walks us over to this hieroglyph that's

54:39

about the primordial waters

54:42

raining down on

54:45

the machine of consciousness to make it work.

54:48

And I don't remember exactly what he was saying, but

54:50

I do remember

54:51

that's the hieroglyph he pointed us to.

54:54

And there's a hole in the wall, very big hole,

54:57

big enough to get a small hand in.

54:59

And he put the ball there, or

55:01

he showed me that's where the ball went and I put it there and

55:04

I did some more prayers.

55:06

Called you over. You did the same.

55:09

And then as we're dispersing, Metis started walking

55:13

away.

55:16

And I remember feeling

55:19

whoever he was channeling

55:22

was frustrated with me because

55:25

Mc

55:31

to remove that void and be like, I

55:34

need control of what's happening

55:36

right now. How long am I going

55:39

to give you my fucking body? How

55:41

long am I going to give you my sovereignty?

55:44

Right? I feel crazy. I feel ridiculous.

55:46

I'm embarrassed. This is what's happening.

55:49

I didn't come here for this shit. Like this is all

55:51

this is happening, right?

55:53

Rather than being

55:56

in the experience of it fully at

55:59

that moment.

55:59

when I was trying to pull myself out. And

56:02

I regret that.

56:05

So I grabbed the ball again.

56:07

So I think it's part of my own consciousness and my own ego.

56:10

And I go into the Holy Holies. And then

56:13

I see my best friends sitting on the throne

56:15

where you belong,

56:17

by a lot of singing to you. And

56:20

I'm sitting

56:21

right across on this,

56:24

they have this like, I don't know what it's called, but like

56:26

there's a chariot that the humans hold. I

56:29

mean, like a human litter of

56:31

some sort. Yeah, it's the Rolls Royce of their

56:33

day, for sure. And I'm

56:35

sitting on the edge of that and I'm watching this whole

56:37

thing happen, holding space. I

56:39

have a ball in my hands, a crystal in my hands.

56:42

And

56:44

it's looking

56:46

at me, right?

56:47

Going,

56:49

put me back.

56:51

I wanna go home. And

56:55

I'm like, oh, fuck.

56:57

That's, this is where you belong. So

56:59

I get up and I go back to the wall

57:01

and I put it into this

57:04

semicircle within

57:06

the hieroglyphs that are about the primordial

57:08

waters coming down to make

57:11

the machine of consciousness work.

57:14

And

57:15

I stick it as far in that hole as I possibly

57:17

can. I blow it, all this dust comes out. I'm like,

57:19

oh my, Indiana Jones over there? Yeah.

57:22

And

57:24

I remember feeling this

57:26

sort of completion

57:29

of this ayahuasca

57:31

vision of being in ancient Egypt, handing

57:33

that ball over to somebody else. Thousands

57:36

of years later, getting that ball back in Ojai

57:39

and then bringing it back to the temple of Edfu,

57:41

or I know I handed it over the first

57:44

time.

57:45

And just

57:48

the idea that we're sitting here today in Montana,

57:51

knowing that a piece of my life

57:54

and a piece of my

57:58

devotion and intention is.

57:59

now in the wall at

58:02

the temple of Edfu,

58:05

where it belongs.

58:08

I'm not saying that this is the water it needed

58:10

to make the machine of consciousness work, but

58:13

somehow I was meant to bring that back there.

58:17

And only a child's hand

58:20

or a woman's hand perhaps can get in

58:22

there and get that ball because I

58:23

made sure it went back

58:26

into the edifice for sure. And

58:33

there's something really special about

58:36

leaving a piece of your devotion there. So

58:40

if any of your viewers go to Edfu,

58:42

go to the back wall,

58:44

look for the

58:46

hieroglyph in the center of the back

58:48

wall that has these primordial

58:51

waters bordering the hieroglyphs.

58:53

You'll see a

58:55

semi-circle kind

58:57

of a half moon hole in the

58:59

wall. If you look in there, you'll see

59:02

condensed water from the manus. I truly

59:05

believe that. And

59:12

this is why we said Egypt

59:15

Fox. Egypt Fox. So

59:18

listen, I know how ridiculous

59:21

this will sound to the uninitiated. I get

59:23

it. I know how people are, this motherfucker is crazy.

59:26

God bless us crazy.

59:31

I felt very self-conscious

59:33

after I

59:34

felt I

59:36

went and hid in my cabin half the day after.

59:39

Like I needed to drink a lot of water and I needed

59:41

to rest. I needed to process

59:43

everything happen. But I also felt like,

59:46

did I have a psychotic break?

59:48

What the fuck just happened to me for six

59:50

hours or four hours in that temple

59:53

has never happened to me in

59:55

my life. Like I've had moments

59:57

in ayahuasca ceremonies

59:59

and in the psilocybin ceremonies where I've,

1:00:02

maybe at the peak

1:00:04

of a DMT ceremony where

1:00:06

you're channeling something or spirit comes in.

1:00:09

Got it, understood.

1:00:10

But you know it's about to happen or you know

1:00:12

it could happen because of the

1:00:15

decisions that you've made to get

1:00:17

yourself in a position to

1:00:20

open in that way.

1:00:24

To show up and just do yoga. And

1:00:28

walk into a temple and then have your body

1:00:30

overtaken by the

1:00:32

amalgamation of so

1:00:35

much ka and devotion and intention

1:00:37

for thousands of years that

1:00:40

coalesce into a being perhaps. And

1:00:42

then it comes into you.

1:00:45

It's a different level. And I,

1:00:47

it's

1:00:49

not lost on me how this sounds. It's

1:00:54

not

1:00:54

lost on me that I'd spent a day and a half thinking I had a psychotic

1:00:56

break maybe. And

1:00:58

should I worry

1:00:59

about that? Should I be concerned?

1:01:06

And then as the week progressed, the answer was no. It

1:01:08

was like, no bro, you're fine. You didn't have psychotic

1:01:10

break. You still, you still, you know who you are. You

1:01:13

know what you love. You know what's important. There's

1:01:16

no, there's no collision of,

1:01:20

there's no collision of ideas

1:01:23

coming from, from there's

1:01:26

no neurodivergence happening. That's

1:01:28

that hasn't happened before.

1:01:30

So no, you're fine. This

1:01:33

really fucking happened to you. Or

1:01:36

you participated in this process. And

1:01:39

I'm still

1:01:42

integrating that experience.

1:01:44

And it's still very

1:01:48

tender for me. Yeah, of course, of

1:01:50

course.

1:01:51

Like I was mad at him.

1:01:53

It's like, what'd you do?

1:01:56

He's like, I didn't do anything. And, and,

1:01:59

and this.

1:01:59

This is like another overwhelming theme

1:02:02

for me. It was like,

1:02:03

oh, I wasn't ready. I thought

1:02:05

Egypt was gonna be, we're gonna be looking at some cool

1:02:07

shit. But then when the energy got

1:02:10

that real,

1:02:11

that fucking real, you

1:02:13

know, and there's little micro, there's micro

1:02:16

moments that I can share from the temple of Horus

1:02:18

and the temple of things for me, but to

1:02:20

just keep this moving along the initiatic

1:02:23

path, because I had a, my big moments

1:02:25

came at some of the later temples. But

1:02:28

this feeling of the

1:02:30

energy being palpable

1:02:33

in a way that I've never felt before, because I've

1:02:35

never done,

1:02:36

never experienced a place

1:02:39

that held that kind of energy. Now, a maloka

1:02:41

holds a certain amount of energy, but it's maybe 20 years

1:02:44

old maximum. It's had some ceremonies.

1:02:47

My own ceremony room

1:02:48

in my house in Austin, you know, 10 years

1:02:51

of journeys that have been in there. And so there's

1:02:53

some resonance and you can feel it and it feels

1:02:55

like good energy, but this is a whole different ballgame.

1:02:59

Thousands of years of devotion and calm,

1:03:01

thousands.

1:03:02

So we went, so the next one was, we're

1:03:04

gonna go to the next one, then I'm gonna take a little break after that

1:03:07

and hydrate a little myself

1:03:09

before I tell my story that's real

1:03:12

vulnerable. But we're gonna get

1:03:14

through Karnak first. So Karnak

1:03:16

was interesting because there's a lot, this is the temple

1:03:18

of Sekhmet. And there was like kind

1:03:20

of a lot of like expectation

1:03:22

built up, but also Matthias was like,

1:03:25

the guards at Sekhmet are

1:03:28

like really

1:03:30

fastidious. They're

1:03:32

really overbearing. Yeah, it's crazy. They're

1:03:34

all over. So they really like

1:03:36

prevented us from actually accessing

1:03:39

most of the sacredness of

1:03:42

the temple of Karnak, which is a gorgeous,

1:03:44

I mean, gorgeous. It's

1:03:46

a city. It's a city. It's beautiful.

1:03:49

But he did something really interesting,

1:03:51

which was he called us all together and he said,

1:03:54

you know, your hearts are not aligned. And

1:03:57

if you go into the great pyramid with

1:03:59

your hearts,

1:03:59

being aligned and with this

1:04:02

dissonance in the field,

1:04:04

then it's going to be very difficult for

1:04:06

you. So we called us all together to

1:04:08

the altar and he expressed that

1:04:10

we needed to clear any of that. And

1:04:13

so we just put

1:04:16

our hands on the altar and

1:04:19

I started it off and

1:04:21

was like, hey, I'm Aubrey

1:04:23

and here I am in

1:04:26

my brokenness and in my holiness

1:04:28

and I expressed my brokenness and

1:04:31

I expressed my holiness and the truth

1:04:34

to the best that I could. And everybody

1:04:36

went around and did the same thing. And

1:04:38

it was a kind of a coming together

1:04:41

of our little clan, our circle within the larger

1:04:43

circle of the whole

1:04:45

community.

1:04:46

So it ended up being a beautiful experience,

1:04:48

but

1:04:49

I don't think for any of us, the Karnak

1:04:52

temple really, really slapped, right?

1:04:54

And I think it was because of the field that was

1:04:56

created by the guards. Guards

1:04:59

wouldn't really let us get into

1:05:01

the magic of that place. No, no, I

1:05:03

think it's a consorted

1:05:07

effort

1:05:10

to withhold that from

1:05:12

people there for sure.

1:05:15

Yeah, it feels all right. Yeah,

1:05:17

and of course, this has

1:05:20

been the story of empire from

1:05:22

the start. You find the holy

1:05:25

in the sacred

1:05:26

and you tear it down or prevent

1:05:29

access to it, whether that's a sacrament

1:05:31

or medicine, you make it illegal, or whether

1:05:33

it's a temple where you won't allow someone to sing,

1:05:35

we experienced this in Greece. You can't

1:05:38

sing, you can't chant, you can't

1:05:40

tone, you can't meditate.

1:05:42

Like if they catch you meditating,

1:05:44

they're like, oh, oh, oh. Really?

1:05:47

Yeah, like, hey, hey. And

1:05:49

so there's this energy

1:05:52

of like, no, no, no, like

1:05:54

none of this shit. None of this old ancient

1:05:56

ways shit. Yeah, you can just look at it. You

1:05:58

can look at it and you can take some pictures.

1:05:59

for Instagram, you can commodify it, you

1:06:02

can pay us our money so that you

1:06:04

get to pay the toll boot. Don't use

1:06:06

the technology. But don't use the technology

1:06:08

because the technology is anti-empire.

1:06:11

The technology is about self-empowerment.

1:06:13

It's about the realization of ourselves

1:06:16

as multidimensional beings, as our birthright,

1:06:19

that we're able to tap into all of these

1:06:21

energies. And it's actually democratized.

1:06:24

It's not that a certain specific

1:06:26

class of Brahmins get

1:06:29

to only access

1:06:29

this. No, this is available.

1:06:33

And that democratization of

1:06:35

spiritual power and sovereignty and

1:06:37

autonomy is the antithesis

1:06:40

of what empire wants, which is good little

1:06:42

factory workers that are going to contribute

1:06:45

to the commodification of all

1:06:47

the world.

1:06:48

And so this

1:06:51

is the energy that surrounds all

1:06:54

of these sacred places. But we were blessed in

1:06:56

that we had interlocutors

1:07:00

and local Egyptians that were able

1:07:02

to work within the system and give us

1:07:04

pretty unprecedented access to

1:07:06

most places. Unbelievable. What

1:07:09

they were able to accomplish with that. Yeah,

1:07:11

really, really, really special. Karnak

1:07:13

was a bit of a disappointment in

1:07:15

that regard because I felt like there

1:07:18

was so much to see there, but

1:07:21

you were corralled into certain spaces

1:07:23

at certain times. And it just

1:07:25

felt, with the square

1:07:28

footage, with the hectors that

1:07:31

Karnak encompassed, it should have never

1:07:33

felt crowded. But

1:07:35

it always felt crowded because we were being

1:07:38

corralled into certain places at certain times.

1:07:40

And it's just like, it was a lot.

1:07:42

And I look forward to going back there under

1:07:45

different circumstances. Yeah, for sure. I had

1:07:48

an interesting moment in Karnak, which I shared actually

1:07:50

in my speech yesterday,

1:07:52

where there was a guy who was

1:07:56

in the group and he comes up

1:07:58

to me and I'm just kind of doing my

1:07:59

and we're doing our thing with Matthias, and

1:08:02

I share the talk and just kind of being

1:08:04

myself, Alana singing to the pillars, he comes

1:08:06

up and he's like, I'm super triggered

1:08:08

by you. I'm like, whoa.

1:08:10

I don't know. And he starts going

1:08:13

in and he's like, I just think you need to

1:08:15

be careful of your ego and

1:08:17

how you're wielding this power. I'm

1:08:19

like, just listen and listen. He's like, I'm really charged

1:08:22

right now. I'm just listening and listening. And

1:08:24

I say,

1:08:25

yeah, I received, man. And I go,

1:08:28

my name's Aubrey.

1:08:30

And I just go, and he goes, oh.

1:08:34

And then he introduced himself.

1:08:36

And I gave him a hug. But

1:08:38

it was an interesting place where lots

1:08:41

of things were being magnified. And

1:08:43

that was a

1:08:46

moment where it was all the projections

1:08:48

of what you think about somebody.

1:08:51

Then I

1:08:52

just had, in that moment, just the wisdom

1:08:54

to collapse it by saying,

1:08:56

whatever you might think,

1:08:58

hey, man, my name's Aubrey. And

1:09:00

I'm just figuring shit out here. Yeah,

1:09:03

just like you, bro. Yeah, just like you, man.

1:09:05

A lot different than you. And so that was

1:09:07

an interesting moment

1:09:09

that happened there. But

1:09:14

it was one of those things where it feels

1:09:16

like, if we can go back and

1:09:19

actually kind of clear some space somehow,

1:09:22

there's more potential there. I think we can. I

1:09:26

think that feels like a place where

1:09:29

some real magic was happening.

1:09:31

Why, and it's likely the reason

1:09:33

that they're so guarded. Yeah, exactly. You

1:09:36

can almost tell the sacredness

1:09:38

by how much clustered armor

1:09:42

is protected around it and how much

1:09:44

restriction is. You can tell where the magic

1:09:46

is by the taboos. They're

1:09:49

giving away. You're not doing a good job of hiding

1:09:51

this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No

1:09:53

chanting. There's

1:09:55

a secret here.

1:09:58

So we talking about your spirit. Oh,

1:10:00

man. All right. So now I got to tell the

1:10:03

story of Dendra.

1:10:09

And the story of Dendra is

1:10:11

the story of the temple of Hathor.

1:10:15

And the story

1:10:18

of the temple of Hathor. Now, I don't have like a

1:10:20

particularly strong connection with Hathor, but Bailana

1:10:23

does. Right? Like her

1:10:26

sound healing

1:10:28

is traced the way that she learned,

1:10:30

is traced back to Hathor. To the Hathor

1:10:32

lineage, yeah. Yeah, to the Hathor lineage. So

1:10:35

it was a very special place for her, but I went in with

1:10:37

very low expectations

1:10:39

of what this was going to be. It was another temple

1:10:41

on the initiatic path. I was feeling the energies.

1:10:44

The energies were coming in. I was having

1:10:46

my experiences.

1:10:49

So we go in and again,

1:10:51

I'm on my same kind of light dose,

1:10:54

little cannabis pen,

1:10:58

little bit of, you know,

1:11:00

prescribed ketamine and a dissolvable

1:11:02

trochee. And I'm just kind

1:11:04

of cruising through. And at the start, we had

1:11:06

some really incredible Egyptian

1:11:09

priestesses who would do like opening invocations

1:11:11

before the archeologists would go and try and do their

1:11:13

thing. And we would split off with Matthias.

1:11:17

In this particular one, they handed us a feather.

1:11:20

And they handed us a white feather. And

1:11:23

the intention of the white feather was to take the

1:11:25

white feather and to express something

1:11:27

that was on your heart to

1:11:30

somebody else, to actually create

1:11:32

more likeness in your heart. Well,

1:11:35

I was in a position where I felt like I didn't really

1:11:37

have anything I needed to share with anybody.

1:11:39

So I just started to use the feather.

1:11:42

I was like, I'm just going to use this feather to cleanse

1:11:44

my heart,

1:11:45

to make my heart as light as a feather.

1:11:49

Right. And there's old stories

1:11:51

about weighing, weighing your

1:11:53

heart and weighing that the heart be

1:11:56

as light as a feather. To get

1:11:58

into the afterlife. To get into the afterlife.

1:11:59

if your heart needs to be as light as a feather.

1:12:03

So I'm just cleaning and cleaning and

1:12:05

just kind of working with this feather on my own

1:12:08

heart.

1:12:09

And we start cruising through, cruising

1:12:11

through and Matthias

1:12:14

then brings us into

1:12:17

the very interesting hallway.

1:12:20

It was like a kind of very narrow place,

1:12:22

hieroglyphs on all the walls. And

1:12:25

Vylana comes in there with her sound bowl, her

1:12:27

Tibetan sound bowl.

1:12:29

And she's, I mean, she's on fire this whole

1:12:31

trip, right? Like she's like singing

1:12:33

the most unbelievably beautiful sounds

1:12:36

and doing her thing. And Matthias

1:12:38

is in there and they're toning and singing.

1:12:40

And I

1:12:43

start to get this energy starts

1:12:46

to move through me where I can

1:12:49

feel and see something that I've never

1:12:51

felt before. And it's this awakening of my

1:12:53

heart. And what I saw in my

1:12:55

heart, I saw my heart like an orb.

1:12:57

And my heart was this orb and it was the center

1:13:00

of my center. That's a word that is a phrase that

1:13:02

you use like the center of my centers, my Atman,

1:13:05

which is my Monad, which is my divine

1:13:08

source point. And I saw it as

1:13:10

an orb.

1:13:11

And then what I could see was

1:13:14

all of the personality structures

1:13:17

that I have and all of actually the neuroses

1:13:20

that I have.

1:13:21

All of the little ways

1:13:23

that I act in a

1:13:25

way that's like reaching. And I saw

1:13:27

it like almost like static electricity

1:13:29

on like a Tesla coil. Imagine like

1:13:31

a Tesla coil shooting out little lightning bolts.

1:13:34

And it was searching, all of these different

1:13:36

things were searching to connect

1:13:39

to another point of love.

1:13:42

It was like love coming from

1:13:44

the source point, the Monad, that initial

1:13:46

sphere of who we really are, love at

1:13:48

its core. Light as a feather

1:13:50

and feeling my heart in this like

1:13:53

quartzite, like light orb.

1:13:56

And then all of my personality affects

1:13:58

the places where I get sad. the places where I

1:14:00

get angry, the places where I get scared, the

1:14:02

places where I get a little obsessive

1:14:05

or neurotic. All of these things, just reaching

1:14:07

out

1:14:08

and creating the totality

1:14:10

of my humanness, which is all

1:14:13

of the grandeur and

1:14:17

all of the kind of frailty

1:14:19

of the thing, and just reaching out from this orb.

1:14:22

And then there's this other orb

1:14:25

that I saw that was around

1:14:27

it. So it was like a core inside

1:14:30

another giant orb. And

1:14:33

that other giant orb I recognized

1:14:36

through this like extra dimensional

1:14:38

intelligence,

1:14:39

oh, that's the all that is.

1:14:41

That's, if that little

1:14:44

orb inside my heart was Atman, that

1:14:46

was Brahman. That

1:14:48

was an Atman is Brahman, right?

1:14:51

There's a correlation between these. They're

1:14:53

different, but also the same because the

1:14:56

outer orb was also lined with

1:14:58

love. And that's from the Hebrew mystic

1:15:00

tradition as well, that Mark Gaffney has shared

1:15:03

is that the insides are lined with love.

1:15:06

So I found my source point

1:15:08

was a source point of love. And then I had

1:15:10

all this static electricity.

1:15:13

And then I saw the outer,

1:15:16

the outer Brahman, the all that is,

1:15:18

which were the insides were lined with love. And

1:15:21

I could see that that was not only in my heart,

1:15:23

that was in everybody's heart. That

1:15:25

every single person had the Atman,

1:15:28

had the source point, had the point

1:15:30

of love, the orb of love in their own

1:15:32

heart. And every single thing they're

1:15:34

doing, every petty jealousy,

1:15:37

every laugh, everything was just reaching

1:15:40

to

1:15:41

try and connect

1:15:43

to the all that is the

1:15:46

outer Brahman. And

1:15:48

it gave me this for the first

1:15:50

time in my life, the

1:15:53

feeling of unconditional

1:15:55

love.

1:15:56

Because when I recognize that all

1:15:58

of us were,

1:15:59

the Atman, the Monad, the

1:16:02

Source. And all we

1:16:04

were doing, no matter what it was, no matter

1:16:06

even if it was vile what we were

1:16:08

doing, there was some way in which that

1:16:11

static electricity was reaching from that,

1:16:13

trying to make it

1:16:15

to touch the outer wall of

1:16:18

love, so that love connected to love.

1:16:20

But it would get lost in the distortion and

1:16:22

in the prism and in the fogs, and sometimes

1:16:25

it would find dead ends. And sometimes

1:16:28

the darker forces, the upside down world,

1:16:30

would pull the energy down

1:16:33

into a place where actually it couldn't find

1:16:36

its way out back.

1:16:38

Love finding love, it would get

1:16:40

stuck. But I could see that no

1:16:42

matter what anybody was doing,

1:16:44

it was all just their own source

1:16:47

love reaching to find the

1:16:49

greater universal love.

1:16:51

And sometimes just finding itself

1:16:54

getting in cul-de-sacs and dead

1:16:56

ends and getting frazzled in

1:16:58

certain spots. But

1:17:00

I recognize that we're all on this same

1:17:02

journey, myself

1:17:04

and everybody, as like the

1:17:07

center of our center, reaching

1:17:10

through all of our personality effects to

1:17:12

try and find the safety, the love

1:17:15

of everything else. And it was the

1:17:17

first time in my life where I could look,

1:17:19

with my own vision and

1:17:22

see the entirety of every

1:17:24

human being and say like,

1:17:26

ah, tatvamasy, I am that too.

1:17:29

You and me, you and me live in a different

1:17:32

life. Your orb is the

1:17:34

same as my orb, and we just

1:17:36

have different patterns of static

1:17:39

that are reaching.

1:17:41

And then I made an interesting move. I said, all

1:17:43

right, well, what if through my own

1:17:46

observation and quantum realization,

1:17:49

like the observer effect, what if I observe

1:17:51

that all of my affects,

1:17:54

all of these things that are reaching, that feel

1:17:56

a little tender, that feel a little vulnerable, that

1:17:58

wants a little love, in this situation

1:18:00

that wants a word of affirmation, all of

1:18:03

this, what if I just

1:18:04

create an invisible thread

1:18:07

of energy that connects

1:18:10

all of these end points of my static

1:18:12

electricity and connects them to the Brahman,

1:18:14

connects them to the universal love. And

1:18:18

through a visualization practice, I

1:18:20

saw the entirety of myself, and then I visualized

1:18:23

a thread that connected everything

1:18:27

to the outer Brahman, to the outer

1:18:29

orb of love.

1:18:31

And that visualization then

1:18:34

started to pulse and started

1:18:36

to become real.

1:18:38

And I started to feel like, oh

1:18:40

my God, we use the word unconditional

1:18:43

love, but I never really

1:18:45

felt unconditional love. I

1:18:47

felt ecstatic love. You

1:18:49

do a Bufo ceremony, right? It's like, ecstatic

1:18:52

love. Oh, love,

1:18:56

love. Yeah, you know, it's like, whoa,

1:18:58

you're just blown. That's ecstatic love.

1:19:01

But there's not enough awareness for it to be

1:19:04

unconditional. It's not sustainable.

1:19:06

It's not sustainable either. So it's ecstatic. It's

1:19:08

ecstatic.

1:19:09

So there's many different expressions of love. There's

1:19:12

erotic love. There's all kinds of different, but

1:19:14

unconditional love, this was the first

1:19:16

time that I touched it and I felt

1:19:18

it.

1:19:19

Because all I saw was

1:19:21

love and the static electricity

1:19:23

reaching and sometimes getting pulled in

1:19:25

dark places, but knew that all

1:19:28

it was was reaching to find the outer love.

1:19:31

And then in my own self, then I

1:19:33

just connected all of those threads

1:19:35

to the outer sphere. So

1:19:38

that happened in that little hallway.

1:19:40

And then there was another Holy of Holies where

1:19:42

I was holding space as Matthias

1:19:45

and Bailana and the goddesses

1:19:47

were doing this ritual. And I was

1:19:50

just in meditation, like holding this space

1:19:52

of unconditional love and protecting the

1:19:54

energy so that they could do what they were doing

1:19:56

there. And there was a few moments, but

1:19:59

then we climbed.

1:19:59

that was kind of like you had to get on

1:20:02

a ladder to get to that place.

1:20:05

We move on down and we go into this particular

1:20:08

part of the temple of Hathor,

1:20:10

which Matthias is guiding.

1:20:12

And Matthias then

1:20:14

grabs me and Vailana and

1:20:18

puts us in the center

1:20:20

of a circle of people.

1:20:25

And there was six people. It's a bigger room, right? It's

1:20:27

a bigger room. Yeah, it's a much bigger room.

1:20:31

And so me and Vailana, sacred

1:20:33

union, masculine and feminine, and

1:20:37

we're there in the center.

1:20:39

And then he grabs three men,

1:20:41

three women. You were one of those men.

1:20:44

Frito was one of those women. And

1:20:48

he starts to

1:20:50

direct the people

1:20:53

to start toning in a particular

1:20:55

tone. Right.

1:20:56

And then rotating in

1:20:59

a particular way. I'm getting

1:21:01

goosebumps hearing this again. And I was there. Right?

1:21:04

So I'm already in this experience of

1:21:07

visualizing and feeling this unconditionality

1:21:09

of love and understanding it semantically.

1:21:13

And then this

1:21:15

Stargate technology, literally

1:21:18

like that old show Stargate, where

1:21:20

things are twisting and moving, but it was

1:21:23

three people and three people. Three

1:21:26

men, three women, and then me and Vi in the center.

1:21:30

And the most powerful

1:21:33

activation of my whole

1:21:36

fucking life happens

1:21:38

then.

1:21:38

And I didn't take any more medicine.

1:21:40

I had a little bit of medicine. Wait, sorry, say that

1:21:43

again. Yeah, so. The most powerful activation

1:21:45

of you,

1:21:47

the psychonaut of our generation. Yeah.

1:21:51

Our Timothy

1:21:52

Leary.

1:21:56

You're telling me that the most powerful

1:21:58

activation that you've had. in

1:22:00

your life, because

1:22:03

I know your life, was

1:22:05

in that temple. Let's go. Let's

1:22:08

go. You're in for a treat. Oh

1:22:12

man. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but I just

1:22:14

wanted to make sure that you

1:22:16

chose those words correctly and then I heard that correctly.

1:22:19

Okay. And the interesting

1:22:21

thing is, is a lot of times you try to correlate

1:22:23

like

1:22:24

the gravity of your experience with

1:22:26

the quantity of the substance, right?

1:22:30

Oh, well, if you do 1.3 of the Bufo, and

1:22:33

you're gonna blast off even more. I'll do four cups though. Four cups,

1:22:36

I know.

1:22:37

Or seven, three. This was two

1:22:40

hours after I'd done a

1:22:42

little bit of medicine.

1:22:44

So I'm not saying like, so I

1:22:47

was open, but the

1:22:49

most powerful psychonautic

1:22:51

experience of my whole life happens in

1:22:53

that technology.

1:22:55

And I start shaking.

1:22:58

Yeah. And this emergence

1:23:01

from my heart, my heart just

1:23:04

fully opens that energy

1:23:06

center, that chakra,

1:23:08

you know, what we call our heart

1:23:10

after I kind of understood

1:23:13

and felt the nature of unconditional love, all

1:23:16

of the pieces of my Atman, all

1:23:18

of the energy, all of the energy, instead

1:23:21

of me imagining an invisible thread

1:23:23

of energy, connecting all of those

1:23:25

threads of my personality, they

1:23:27

all just plugged right in. Atman

1:23:30

plugged into Brahman, plugged

1:23:32

right in and started pulsing back

1:23:35

and forth, pulsing, pulsing, pulsing.

1:23:37

And the people were spinning and the tones were

1:23:39

happening, pulsing,

1:23:40

pulsing. And this is happening in my heart center.

1:23:44

And then Atman is Brahman. It

1:23:46

became one, became one. It pulse, pulse,

1:23:48

pulse faster, faster, faster.

1:23:51

And then it just goes,

1:23:53

and it hits where

1:23:55

Atman became Brahman and the love

1:23:58

that I held inside was. the

1:24:00

same as the love of the entire

1:24:03

cosmos. And I was one

1:24:05

with the love of the universe as

1:24:07

me,

1:24:08

in my own body. And

1:24:12

in that mind, it was only possible

1:24:15

because of the, because of Vailana

1:24:17

being right there in front of me, because she was

1:24:19

there, she was singing because of all

1:24:21

of you rotating around, because Matthias

1:24:24

opening the portal.

1:24:26

And Matthias whispering words from my

1:24:28

lineage, like

1:24:32

son of Judah, and evoking

1:24:35

this.

1:24:38

And for me to feel my heart

1:24:40

open to that level

1:24:43

is something that even when I'm telling

1:24:46

this story now, it seems like a dream.

1:24:49

It seems like, did I dream

1:24:51

that? Or was that really

1:24:53

real? I know the feeling. Did that really

1:24:56

happen? Because it's

1:24:58

so hard to actually weave

1:25:01

that into

1:25:02

and integrate that into life,

1:25:04

the place where my heart merged

1:25:07

with the heart of the whole universe.

1:25:10

Yeah, and I mean, I was there, and

1:25:12

I felt the resonance and the frequency

1:25:15

coming off of you. And it just felt like pure

1:25:17

love.

1:25:19

And if you notice what Matthias did was,

1:25:21

he had the three divine

1:25:24

feminine energy and the three divine masculine energy,

1:25:27

holding hands,

1:25:29

we're spinning around you. Whenever

1:25:32

somebody else came in, he goes, no,

1:25:35

outside of the circle and go

1:25:37

around them.

1:25:38

He was creating the six pointed star,

1:25:40

the Merkabah. He was creating this like

1:25:42

geometrical technology. And

1:25:45

a cell,

1:25:46

the nucleus, the

1:25:47

electrons, the protons. And

1:25:50

the orbit that they have.

1:25:52

He was recreating that,

1:25:55

which is incredible. And

1:25:57

I

1:25:58

think also what would...

1:25:59

what is present for me when you're telling this story is

1:26:02

the difference between the eye of Horus and the eye of Ra.

1:26:05

Eye of Horus is the center of the center. It

1:26:08

is the light, it is the exploration

1:26:11

of the light

1:26:12

that

1:26:13

doesn't have a visual spectrum

1:26:15

that's inside of you,

1:26:17

which comes from source and emanates outward.

1:26:19

That's the Ra. Is it the Ra or

1:26:21

the horse? The Ra, the Ra is the sun. Right,

1:26:25

but the Horus is the interior,

1:26:28

third eye. Third eye. I

1:26:30

guess what I'm saying is the Atman feels

1:26:32

like Horus and the Brahma feels

1:26:35

like Ra

1:26:36

in their language. And I

1:26:40

had a similar experience as well with

1:26:43

embodying what happened in Efu, but

1:26:46

I saw them as eyes. And

1:26:49

me being in the center of that void was the eye

1:26:51

of Horus. And that void

1:26:53

that expands was the eye of Ra. Yeah.

1:26:56

Right? And it didn't feel, once again

1:26:58

it didn't feel, let's

1:27:01

explain void to us on the

1:27:03

boat.

1:27:05

It is everything, the entire singularity,

1:27:07

all possibilities condensed into one

1:27:09

point. Yeah.

1:27:11

And that's what that expanse felt like,

1:27:13

right? And I think it's important to

1:27:15

make the distinction

1:27:18

that

1:27:20

we all have that inside of us. Every

1:27:22

single one of us. Every single one of us

1:27:24

has that inside of us. And that's the most important

1:27:27

message to share from this. It's not

1:27:29

that there's special Makkad

1:27:31

and special Aubrey who only

1:27:34

had access. There's technology

1:27:36

available for us to recognize

1:27:38

our own Atman and Brahman

1:27:40

relationship, our own eye

1:27:43

of Ra, eye of Horus relationship.

1:27:45

All of these technologies are encoded

1:27:48

in the ancient temples, in the ancient ways. And

1:27:50

this was the technology

1:27:53

of Atlantis. When we think

1:27:55

of the Atlantean civilization, pre-Diluvian

1:27:58

before the flood, we imagine.

1:27:59

that they were like fucking cruising

1:28:02

around on spaceships and shit. And

1:28:04

when you talk to Matthias who remembers his past

1:28:06

lives, he's like, no, man, we were riding around on donkeys.

1:28:10

But our spiritual technology was dialed.

1:28:14

Right, like you guys have the internet, we

1:28:16

connected with each other through that same field

1:28:18

of frequency, but just with ourselves. Right. And

1:28:22

listen, I mean, I'm not gonna take away the

1:28:24

fact that there is something special about you and me and

1:28:26

the fact that we have done so much work in this

1:28:28

realm that we get the fuck out of the

1:28:29

way

1:28:31

faster than a lot of people would. But

1:28:33

it is available to everybody. It's available.

1:28:35

As long as they have the presence

1:28:37

to get the fuck out of their own way. Yep. Right.

1:28:40

It's within all of us. Yeah, release that social conditioning

1:28:42

of, is this weird, is this wrong, is

1:28:46

this witchcraft? What is this? Right,

1:28:48

just don't try to understand what it is.

1:28:50

It's the universe

1:28:52

explaining itself to you through

1:28:54

you. Yeah.

1:28:55

And you're not gonna, your conscious mind

1:28:57

is not gonna be able to wrap that up into a pretty bow.

1:28:59

No. No. So

1:29:02

I have this moment and this is,

1:29:05

I read a lot of Paul Selig

1:29:08

and he talks about the awakening of the Christ

1:29:10

and the difference of the awakening of the Christ versus

1:29:12

Jesus. Now, when people come up and

1:29:14

like, I'm Jesus, I'm like,

1:29:17

watch the fuck out. You mean Jesus? Like,

1:29:20

watch out. Are you from Mexico? That's a pretty

1:29:22

common name there. Like watch out because

1:29:25

that's a different thing. That's a declaration

1:29:27

of being different and

1:29:30

separate. And that's not what the teaching

1:29:32

meant. The teaching was to awaken

1:29:34

the Christ within

1:29:35

all of us.

1:29:37

The Christ that's available to every

1:29:39

single person. It was really

1:29:41

the democratization of love

1:29:43

embodied

1:29:45

and God embodied. That was the

1:29:47

true teaching. And I got

1:29:49

to have just a taste

1:29:51

of what that was like in

1:29:54

that temple.

1:29:55

And it was fucking

1:29:59

mind-blown.

1:29:59

And it was something

1:30:02

that

1:30:03

if I don't continue to tell the story, I

1:30:05

would just kind of shuffle it away

1:30:07

into like a corridor of my consciousness

1:30:10

because it's so big and so

1:30:13

unbelievable

1:30:14

that it's hard to weave into the

1:30:17

story thread of my own life. I get it. Yeah.

1:30:21

And there's something kind of interesting

1:30:23

about that, the

1:30:24

term Christ consciousness and Messiah

1:30:27

that throws people off, because Christ just means Messiah.

1:30:30

But here's the thing,

1:30:32

who are you the Messiah for? Yourself.

1:30:36

And that is something that we can all wrap our heads around.

1:30:39

It's like, I can save myself.

1:30:40

I can be the person that

1:30:43

dies for my own sins. I can be the person that pulls

1:30:45

myself up out of this, this abyss

1:30:47

of, you know,

1:30:53

being locked in a prison of my own space-time,

1:30:56

of something that I've created myself.

1:30:59

So I can be my own savior and pulling

1:31:01

myself out of that. And I think people have to start seeing

1:31:03

it that way. That you can be your

1:31:05

own personal fucking Messiah. Yeah.

1:31:08

Right? That doesn't mean you need to start teaching me... Personal

1:31:11

Messiah. Jesus. And

1:31:15

break the word out. Miseya. Ah,

1:31:20

miseya. You

1:31:22

know? It was... And

1:31:24

so after that experience,

1:31:27

it was really actually perfect,

1:31:30

because after the experience, I'm having

1:31:32

this experience, and

1:31:34

people could kind of feel that something happened, but

1:31:37

the experience was happening internally in myself.

1:31:40

And then we had to kind of move on to the temple.

1:31:42

They were like, the police

1:31:44

are taking pictures. Yeah. And

1:31:47

we were like moving on. We were just humming. Yeah. And

1:31:50

it

1:31:50

was very interesting, because it was like

1:31:53

I could see the smallest

1:31:55

part of my ego go like,

1:31:57

there should be a fucking band

1:31:59

playing.

1:31:59

when this happens, you know? Like there should be a celebration.

1:32:02

And all it was was like, hey man, can I have some water?

1:32:05

Or like, oh, I need a couple fucking Egyptian

1:32:07

dollars to go buy a,

1:32:09

you know, Kit Kat or whatever it was.

1:32:12

And it was like, oh

1:32:15

yeah, right back to regular life. Right

1:32:18

back to regular life. And it was just this

1:32:20

beautiful thing of like, yeah, you can have this big

1:32:22

moment. And then nobody needs

1:32:25

to make a fanfare about it. Nobody needs

1:32:27

to do anything. This

1:32:29

is something that

1:32:31

I got to experience. And then

1:32:33

I got to share some water and I got to share some chocolate.

1:32:36

And I just kind of move right

1:32:38

on through with life. I think

1:32:40

that's likely the best way to

1:32:42

integrate it, you know, because it is

1:32:45

this big overwhelming moment in many ways.

1:32:47

When you feel something like that, you can't unfeel it. And

1:32:51

so what's the best thing to do after that?

1:32:54

Just

1:32:54

kind of get back into

1:32:56

your structure to understand that

1:32:58

that wasn't a psychotic break. To

1:33:00

understand that this really did happen. Because here I am back

1:33:03

in reality. Okay, nothing's really changed.

1:33:05

I can return the text that I meant

1:33:08

to four hours ago. So

1:33:10

I'm back.

1:33:11

So that really did happen. Because now just

1:33:13

being juxtaposed, that feeling that energy,

1:33:16

that experience is being juxtaposed with

1:33:18

the monotony of my normal life of wanting some water

1:33:20

and Kit Kat. Yeah.

1:33:23

If a band played after, get yourself

1:33:26

checked out. Be

1:33:28

weird. You guys hit trumpets. No,

1:33:31

we don't. Yeah. And

1:33:34

that was this, it was

1:33:36

just this kind of like beautiful moment of having

1:33:39

such a big experience than just

1:33:41

knowing that,

1:33:42

and it made it like, this

1:33:47

is a part of the story of

1:33:49

the new humanity and

1:33:51

the new world that's coming online.

1:33:54

Where

1:33:55

it's not just one person that

1:33:57

does this, it's

1:33:58

all of us start to act.

1:33:59

all of us start to activate our

1:34:02

Christ itself, all of us start to activate

1:34:04

our Atman, whatever the name is, it doesn't matter.

1:34:07

It's the full opening of the heart. And

1:34:11

Metis puts it in a really beautiful

1:34:13

way. And I felt this as some of these experiences

1:34:15

were happening to you and

1:34:17

me and Frida, Shadia, everybody, Vailana

1:34:21

had incredible experiences.

1:34:26

It's the remembering, right?

1:34:28

Right?

1:34:29

And to break that word up again, it's

1:34:32

to put back together, to remember

1:34:35

the parts of yourself that we lost

1:34:37

in this

1:34:40

avarice-driven social context

1:34:42

in which we experience our lives. Right?

1:34:45

So it's like

1:34:48

putting back together our connection with

1:34:50

the Atman, putting back our connection with the

1:34:52

I have Horace, the I have Ra, the Brahma,

1:34:56

that is something that

1:34:57

feels so fucking familiar.

1:35:00

Like it truly is remembering,

1:35:04

right? And in every sense

1:35:06

of the word. And

1:35:10

to remember, like

1:35:12

the members, it's

1:35:14

a putting back together. It's a putting back together

1:35:16

of who we are as spiritual beings, which has been

1:35:18

broken and severed intentionally.

1:35:21

And this is also another thread that we got

1:35:23

to recognize, is like the spiritual

1:35:27

continuity has been intentionally

1:35:30

severed.

1:35:31

Intentionally severed. Intentionally severed

1:35:33

so that they can Frankenstein other energetic

1:35:37

aspects onto our beings. Right? So like

1:35:39

we have these sort of body-conscious

1:35:45

connections of electro-magnetic energy

1:35:47

that are really connected to our Atman or connected

1:35:49

to our Rama. And they go, let's replace

1:35:52

that with retail therapy. Let's

1:35:55

replace that with you feeling out of control of your environment

1:35:58

in some way.

1:35:59

And so

1:36:01

the severing was there, but

1:36:03

it's what did they put in place of that? Because

1:36:05

we're still searching. And it's like you said, it's the in

1:36:07

between that Atman and that Brahma, there's love

1:36:10

is trying to find love and it's getting lost. But

1:36:14

it got detoured purposely to

1:36:17

hold up the empire.

1:36:20

So it's just,

1:36:22

when you finally see it, you go,

1:36:25

what am I doing? What are we

1:36:27

doing?

1:36:29

We can do this better.

1:36:30

Yeah. And it's just remembering, that's

1:36:33

it.

1:36:34

Yeah. And this is what all

1:36:36

of the witch hunts

1:36:38

and all

1:36:40

of the empire

1:36:43

as capital, our religion, empire

1:36:45

as corporate, corporatocracy

1:36:47

that we're experiencing now, it's all the same

1:36:50

force, but it's the denial

1:36:53

of our own personal power and our

1:36:55

own sovereignty. And because as

1:36:58

sovereign, alive, awake, vibrant

1:37:02

agents of the divine, we're

1:37:04

not gonna fall into these pyramid

1:37:07

scheme patterns

1:37:08

of power

1:37:10

and control. We're all gonna realize

1:37:13

that we're all participating in

1:37:15

this universality of

1:37:18

consciousness. The one mind is the

1:37:20

Kabbalion would say, or

1:37:22

the one cosmohorotic

1:37:25

universe, as Mark Gaffney would say, is

1:37:28

like we're all participating in

1:37:30

this thing, but empire

1:37:33

will try to trick us and make us a little cog

1:37:36

in a machine, an expendable cog,

1:37:39

a trigger for some bullets or a

1:37:41

finger that pushes the button that drops

1:37:43

a bomb, that fuels and empowers

1:37:46

the war empire, that the war

1:37:48

machine that goes. And all

1:37:50

of this crazy shit that's been there, and

1:37:52

then all the intermediaries

1:37:55

that say, you can't talk to God, you

1:37:57

talk to us, we'll talk to God for you, this whole

1:37:59

priest class.

1:37:59

and then all the tithing to

1:38:02

build all of these. It's this whole

1:38:04

power game, but really the

1:38:06

whole power game crumbles when

1:38:08

you recognize that everybody has

1:38:11

the power to connect with their

1:38:13

own divinity, with their own royalty,

1:38:15

with their own beauty. Their

1:38:18

divine inheritance. Exactly, it's their

1:38:21

birthright.

1:38:22

And we have this society that's commodified

1:38:24

fear,

1:38:25

and you can't

1:38:27

sell people things

1:38:29

who don't need them when they have so much

1:38:31

already within them.

1:38:33

And

1:38:35

it's a couple of changes coming, you can feel it.

1:38:38

I think Egypt is a big part of that. You

1:38:40

know, a culture that

1:38:42

was built, according

1:38:44

to Matthias, as a culture that

1:38:47

was there to uplift human

1:38:49

beings into their divinity,

1:38:51

I feel like that presence and

1:38:54

that awareness and that intention is still

1:38:56

in that land.

1:38:57

Yeah, there's obviously

1:39:00

deep codes that go there. And we're

1:39:02

not to the end of this journey in Egypt either,

1:39:05

because there's some more spots. So let's

1:39:07

go to the next stop. Next

1:39:10

stop along this path on this magical

1:39:12

bus ride,

1:39:13

a boat ride actually,

1:39:19

the Osirian temple.

1:39:21

And the Osirian temple was really

1:39:23

interesting, because the Osirian temple had hieroglyphs

1:39:26

of aliens. Spaceships,

1:39:29

just right there.

1:39:30

I got a video, I'm like, that's a spaceship, that's

1:39:32

a helicopter.

1:39:33

Or at least it looks like a helicopter does today, so

1:39:36

what else was that?

1:39:39

That's,

1:39:42

I mean, and also mushrooms on

1:39:44

all that. Unmistakably.

1:39:47

Unmistakably. Unless there's some really weird

1:39:49

dicks. It's

1:39:52

either really weird dicks a lot. They

1:39:54

were obsessed with really weird dicks or

1:39:56

mushrooms. One of the two.

1:39:58

I'm gonna go. I'm going

1:40:01

to go with mushrooms. I think I'm going

1:40:03

to go with mushrooms too. That's safe to say. I think it's

1:40:05

pretty safe. I'm going to go with some strange dicks.

1:40:08

So we're in the Assyrian temple. We

1:40:10

go all the way down to the ancient part

1:40:12

of that temple. Now a lot of these temples were rebuilt

1:40:15

around in the Roman times.

1:40:20

But

1:40:20

the Assyrian temple had old,

1:40:23

old places, old places with

1:40:25

old waters and old, old

1:40:28

caverns. We went down and it took

1:40:30

a little while. The guards were holding the gate

1:40:32

because they didn't want to let us down there. Probably

1:40:35

some people had to get bribed. Who

1:40:37

knows what happened? Whatever had to happen. But

1:40:40

at a certain point, the rope

1:40:42

was lifted. It was really

1:40:44

amazing. I don't want us to come

1:40:46

over that. We stood outside in the blazing

1:40:49

Egyptian desert

1:40:50

heat for like 30 minutes, just

1:40:52

holding our space knowing that we would get in.

1:40:55

And we did. Which

1:40:57

in and of itself I thought was really beautiful

1:41:00

and worth mentioning.

1:41:01

Yeah. We knew that we had to go there.

1:41:04

We knew that there was something that was going to be activated

1:41:07

when we went there.

1:41:10

And

1:41:11

we just trusted that with our

1:41:13

intention that they would let us into this place.

1:41:15

That it looked like they had no intention of letting us

1:41:17

in. To keep out closed. It

1:41:20

said the whole thing. We just stood at the rope like

1:41:22

we were at a VIP

1:41:25

event in Miami back in the 90s. Yeah,

1:41:27

exactly.

1:41:31

So, we go in there. We go down,

1:41:33

down, down into the Holy of Holies. Interestingly,

1:41:37

Matthias

1:41:39

calls for a

1:41:41

particular one of the Egyptian priestesses

1:41:43

whose name was Shekinah, which

1:41:45

I thought was also wildly

1:41:47

synchronistic because

1:41:49

I've been in a deep study with Mark Gaffney

1:41:52

involving Shekinah. The

1:41:56

embodiment of Eros itself, like

1:41:58

the Tao of Eros. you know,

1:42:00

the structure of the Cosmo-erotic universe.

1:42:03

And Matthias and

1:42:06

Shekinah start

1:42:09

channeling different things in

1:42:11

that.

1:42:12

And one of the things they said was,

1:42:16

there's going to be a ship

1:42:18

that's going to arrive. You

1:42:21

remember that? They were like, there's going to be a ship.

1:42:23

And the ship is coming from Anubis.

1:42:26

Anubis has a ship.

1:42:29

And I heard that.

1:42:31

And again, same. Light, dose, ketamine,

1:42:33

cannabis. This is in the structure underneath. In

1:42:36

the structure underneath. The top's built. Yeah.

1:42:39

Okay.

1:42:40

And...

1:42:42

It's like, all right, a ship. And then

1:42:44

all of a sudden, fucking spaceship just

1:42:47

comes straight, straight

1:42:50

into my vision space. Like,

1:42:54

what the fuck? You

1:42:57

know, so Shekinah, the Egyptian priest,

1:42:59

says, there's a ship. And then... I

1:43:02

was like, holy shit. There's

1:43:04

a ship. You were right. There it is.

1:43:07

And there's that. There's that. And

1:43:10

then on the ship, you're going to receive

1:43:12

a gift.

1:43:15

Receive a gift.

1:43:19

Oh, man.

1:43:20

What was the gift that you got?

1:43:22

And then I'll tell the gift. Listen, you can't...

1:43:26

I do detours like that. So

1:43:28

you're going to receive a gift. And

1:43:30

then

1:43:31

my left hand gets

1:43:34

fiery hot. Fiery

1:43:36

hot. Like the heat of the sun. And

1:43:40

my right hand is ice cold. Icy

1:43:44

cold. Like steel. Like cold

1:43:47

steel. And

1:43:50

I

1:43:51

was like, what the fuck is

1:43:53

happening? Because literally to the touch, you

1:43:55

know, I have enough awareness there, even though

1:43:57

the energy is so strong.

1:44:00

Like I know that somatically,