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Around the NFL podcast

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it's fresh out of Sunny Drops.

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No from

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the Chris Westling podcast studio. It is

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around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis I

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have heroes here because

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there is no off season for around the NFL.

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We're so, We've been told Mark.

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Sessler, Greg Rosenthal,

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and yes, because God

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damn it, we need it right now.

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One more person. Chnie

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Shannie's the queen queen.

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She is the queen of NFL

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media.

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Thank you so much. Great to be here.

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A lot of competition for queen of NFL media,

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but well maybe not, but you are

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absolutely the queen of

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around the NFL and and really

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all areas where you roam.

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Wow, thank you so much. That's great.

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I love being, you know, a regal

1:04

member of society, and this

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is great.

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We've asked Patrick Claibon, who

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has a host of songs too, like if he and

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we've encouraged him because he doesn't do this, like to

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blast these like anthems suggesting

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how great he is, how some how statuesque

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like inside his house so that his significant

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other understands the weight of

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what.

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She's been given in what she's

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scored.

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Yeah, yeah, and like so Gonzo at

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this point, it's about eleven forty four am, probably

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in a bathroom, wandering around at your compaly

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does he need to be reminded? And would you willingly do

1:34

that?

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Or I just have it as my ringtone,

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so I just walk around everywhere

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unless people know efficient.

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Yeah, Greg, how are

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you, Bud? I'm great? Good, good

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show, big show coming up.

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It is the return of

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the around the NFL Glossary

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of terms because this

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off season just

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because right now, well OTAs kicked

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off, so in a lot of ways, football's.

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Football is back back.

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In some ways Monday they started throwing

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the pigskin around yep, in some

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ways, Mark, in some ways, I

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will go that far.

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So to celebrate the return of football, why

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not open up the glossary and give the

2:18

people you know a real above

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the tree tops view of what

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the current landscape of the NFL.

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That's what today is all about.

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And I feel like Colleen, that's a public

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service that we can offer that

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I believe will connect with the audience.

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I think so too.

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This is one of my favorite episodes that we do.

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I love all the off season episodes and I'm

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happy to help provide the service.

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Unbelievable. Yeah, all right, you want

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to get into it, Let's do it. We're going to try

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to get through it. We did it in two parts last year.

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We're going to do it.

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And I I'm just sorry over under on

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time for this.

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I will say, we flippantly, flippantly,

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with very little discussion cited just to pack

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it back into one episode.

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Yeah, we'll see last year.

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Last year Mark said we were on like letter

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D and we were forty minutes.

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That was two years ago, and then last year we decided

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to cut it into two.

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But it's back into one big cake. But here it is.

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Here it is, here's your face, Here's where it goes. Greg.

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Ultimately, the conversation will dictate,

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like unless we want to do a two hour show,

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which we don't typically want

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to do. Mark, and I

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know you don't want to do so, but the

3:21

conversation will dictate.

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Whatever it takes. But are

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control and yet we have no control.

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You can say that again, brother, all right, let's get into

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it. Let's start. I'll get it going.

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We all got tagged

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with a certain amount of letters

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and I got a so A

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in the glossary of the terms announcing

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retirement, announcing

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retirement, and who was announcing their retirement.

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David Johnson, All Pro running

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back with the Cardinals, he has announced his retirement

3:54

after eight seasons in the

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NFL. He wrote Sunday

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in an Instagram post that he is quote looking

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forward to the next career path in

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life. He doesn't know what it will be, but

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he hopes it brings him the same passion, excitement,

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and love.

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As football debt.

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Drafted by the Cardinals in the third round of the twenty

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fifteen draft, he is

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in the And then this will get to my second point, the

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around the NFL era. One of my favorite players

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when he was at his peak, and his peak wasn't very

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long. He was a true

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do it all guy. He got first team

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All Pro honors. When he is at his peak in

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twenty sixteen, led the league

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reggie three hundred and seventy three touches, twenty

4:34

one hundred yards from scrimmage, twenty touchdowns

4:37

and also, like from everything we hear

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an a plus dude, great teammate, and

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an underdog who turned into a superstar.

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So part one of this is David Johnson

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retired.

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An absolutely ridiculous

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dominant season, like up there with the best

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seasons we've seen at running

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back or almost any position since we started doing the

4:56

show. I remember how much Wes loved

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David Johnson as a rookie where he was a big

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part of that twenty fifteen team that we kind of fell

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in love with with the Cardinals, and

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then he was even better the year after that.

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There really haven't like there hasn't been a season

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since then of a player

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that put that many yards from scrimmage in that many touchdowns

5:15

together in the same season since Like, that's

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how good he was then. And unfortunately he's like

5:19

everyone thinks like injuries don't matter anymore. You just

5:21

assume thirty nine year olds off torn achilles are going

5:23

to be fine, Like sometimes injuries do matter.

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He was never really the same.

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Yeah, it kind of reminds me a little bit of like the career

5:29

arc of Terrell Davis, who, you know, minus

5:31

injuries, could have done eight to nine years

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of what he did, but he was so dominant

5:36

in twenty sixteen. You mentioned the numbers, and

5:38

I do recall West just like like West could

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see running backs before other people,

5:43

like, especially in the preseason.

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Be the one thing that he watched the preseason.

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It's like one of his superpowers.

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It really was, and it was like it was based on health.

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It's based on a lot of things. It's like I can't

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think of too many like ap like

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level all pro type players that were taken

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away by injury the way he was, because he never was the same.

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I just remember what a big deal it was when he was

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traded to Houston for DeAndre Hopkins

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in Arizona. That was, like, I feel

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like I can remember where I was when that trade

6:06

happened for some reason, and.

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I remember being at the

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All or Nothing documentary premiere

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downtown. Jay Zumwalt

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was with me, you know, a diehard Cardinals fan,

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and I'll always.

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Remember that moment.

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He's in the theater with us amongst all the

6:21

other luminaries of that Cardinals twenty

6:24

fifteen Cardinals team that was documented on that

6:26

series. And there's a scene where their running

6:28

backs coach Stump Mitchell tells Johnson

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that he should be a Hall of Famer once his playing careers

6:32

were over, so people who knew saw the talent

6:35

that he had. He fell short of that. Obviously his body didn't

6:37

quite cooperate. But my other point I

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was going to make I think of fun

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off season activity and I've mentioned

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a few times, but I think this is the year we do it. We

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either make an ATN all

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time team like twenty

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thirteen to president, who's the greatest?

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The roster of the ATN all timers'd

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be fun.

6:57

Another idea, because I thought it'd be fun, we could like reference

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and sit during the season if we made an at and

7:02

one hundred or eight and fifty top

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players in the game right now where they rank on our

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list, either or something that

7:08

kind of celebrates that. Second

7:10

idea is more like the current landscape. But I

7:12

do like looking back and would

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David Johnson be in that conversation?

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Maybe maybe not. It's not a career thing.

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It's like we let our group

7:21

fell in love with a collection of players.

7:23

Yeah.

7:23

I like that, just

7:25

workshop and some some things for the future.

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That's fun.

7:28

We do like the team. I like

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the ATN all.

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Right, ATN All Time team coming up

7:33

later this summer.

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Mark, I like that are your research? I

7:37

will now all right, all right, I'm up here

7:39

we go.

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B B.

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Colleen b is for blurred, as

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in the relationship status between

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a player and their team. So

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T Higgins who requested a trade,

7:51

who hasn't signed his tag yet who skipped

7:53

voluntary workouts but said that he'll play

7:55

for the Bengals this year. You have

7:57

Trey Hendrickson who returned to the team after

8:00

requesting that trade because he wanted

8:02

the long term deal. There's

8:04

plenty of examples of this. Justin

8:07

Jefferson another one.

8:08

I talked to t J.

8:09

Howkinson last week on the

8:11

schedule release show and he was

8:13

saying, because you know the JJ McCarthy

8:16

is there, now, there's multiple JJ's on the team,

8:19

So Justin Jefferson will now

8:21

be known as just Jets, which

8:23

could be confusing for.

8:24

Some Dan that feels

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like doesn't solve the problem, it just creates a

8:29

new one.

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Yeah, but hey, I mean, I guess there can

8:32

only be one JJ perteam. But the

8:34

whole situation with the Cowboys,

8:37

how murky that is right now with Ceedee

8:39

Lamb not knowing where his

8:41

contract is because he's waiting for the DAK contract

8:43

to go down, and obviously Michael Parsons

8:45

needs to be paid. There's plenty more, but a

8:48

lot is blurred.

8:48

Blaird lines a classic that

8:51

really hasn't held up either as the singer.

8:53

Has any trade request ever been summarily

8:56

like ignored and disregarded as much as Trey

8:58

Hendrickson's great question.

9:00

They did not care about it. And he was back immediately,

9:03

and he just was like, well, I love

9:05

this team. I gotta admit I'm

9:07

not going anywhere.

9:08

It was just like it was.

9:08

A I see your Trey Henderson.

9:11

I raised you Austin Eckler last summer.

9:14

It was like a story. It was like a story.

9:16

And he stayed away. We gave some attention.

9:18

Hendrickson was just like, hey, I tried,

9:20

and then showed up like five days later and everything.

9:22

He gave up a little too soon.

9:24

We camped in.

9:26

But yeah, even Burrow was

9:28

like, that's fine. If he wants to get traded.

9:29

He's a player. He deserves to him.

9:31

If he wants to. But then nothing comes of it.

9:33

Jefferson, is it under the radar

9:35

here? Something to keep an eye on, Jefferson.

9:38

Hayward too, you're

9:41

on it?

9:41

Yeah, all right, See we're

9:43

moving fast here.

9:44

See so you just jinxed it, all right? My

9:48

word is cod piece one

9:52

of the grossest things medieval.

9:54

It was a piece of me.

9:54

Were you wearing a cod piece of the Renaissance? Didn't

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I just it does feel like it would be of a piece.

10:02

I don't know if you can just go purchase one at a it

10:04

was. I did some research.

10:06

It is a piece of material worn by men

10:08

in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries

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to c.

10:14

It's mentioned in Shakespeare like sixter. I

10:16

mean, think about it too, like the cod piece.

10:18

It you know it it makes you look enormous,

10:21

you know, and I feel like that's a good thing.

10:23

To Okay, So back then, I think

10:25

it was before.

10:25

There was like the miracle bra, there was the cod piece.

10:27

It was just fabric.

10:29

In modern times, for our purposes,

10:32

the athletic Cup sort of functions as

10:34

the cod piece. And I just wanted to point

10:36

out the off season is a no cod piece

10:38

necessary environment. Oh, TA

10:41

phase three starts today, as you mentioned,

10:43

so many teams, uh, and there will

10:45

be takes. Is I brought this around to having

10:48

some sort of an alza. There will be takes based

10:50

on whatever happens in the

10:52

next ten practices

10:55

of OTA Phase three, but

10:57

there shouldn't be. No live contact

11:00

is allowed, no tackling. There

11:02

was a point even since we

11:04

were covering the game, that there was life contact,

11:06

that there was way more there used to be seventeen

11:08

or eighteen o d's there used to be too, Minnie camps, two

11:10

of them. They could have six days

11:12

of like hitting and stuff in the off season

11:15

that was in the oughts. But I remember none

11:17

of that is allowed, and that's fine. I think it should be a

11:19

teaching period. But it also

11:21

means no evaluation necessary.

11:23

It's just teaching, and you know

11:25

learning.

11:26

Caleb Williams could throw a meatspirer now no

11:28

take Well, we've got to ignore those things.

11:30

And I think if a codpiece necessary?

11:31

Right, People that have listened to this show for a long time,

11:34

yes have are they're up on this.

11:36

I think they realized there are portions of the

11:38

off season that you just glanced beyond and

11:41

get to the next.

11:42

It's a perfect pay just to make that public

11:44

service announced.

11:44

I think we have to this.

11:45

I'm in a cod piece rabbit hole.

11:49

Well, they're on the company laptop. We'll check back with you later.

11:52

Let's move to the letter D with Mark

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Sessler. All Right, I did these my way, so

11:57

it's gonna just be what it is.

11:58

Oh, I love this.

11:59

All right, D is

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for Doma. You don't have to give us that we know.

12:05

Can I get three sentences in a row. That's

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why I am the g I'm just

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letting you know. You don't need to know

12:11

it.

12:12

His favorite part of that he is for Dom De Sandro

12:15

Yes Okay, Senior Advisor to

12:17

the GM and Chief Security Officer for the Philadelphia

12:19

Eagles East Coast Jesus. Big

12:22

Dom is more like Buddha, though anyone

12:24

close to him with a sense of the beyond

12:26

sees that clear as day. Sit in

12:28

place, in peace and cast

12:30

off anger from the jealous. Sit in

12:32

silence and feel the world burn into your beautiful

12:35

body. Big Dom has hired a local

12:37

painter, Jose Wiggins, to paint

12:39

full portraits of Dom as he sits in his small

12:41

Philly based garden around him or

12:43

sunflowers and wind of the willows. In each

12:46

portrait, Jose Wiggins has been instructed

12:48

to include the image of Howie Roseman's standing

12:50

beside Big Dom in the garden, Howie

12:53

Roseman in deep prayer.

12:54

They are one with the gods.

12:56

When seven large pizzas arrive along

12:58

with five kegs of domestic beer, Dom

13:00

treats Jose Wiggins as a treasured

13:02

guest. Jose Wiggins gets the first

13:04

pick of meat Lover's pizza. He is allowed

13:07

to rest in the garden of sunflowers. Then

13:09

Big Dom paints Jose Wiggins in

13:11

acrylic on a canvas that sits in the

13:13

shade by KEG number two large glasses

13:16

of chilled beer or drank all afternoon as

13:18

Dom and Jose Wiggins celebrate what

13:20

is to come, fourteen regular season

13:22

wins for a team whose religious centerpiece

13:25

will be crucified no more Big

13:28

Dom.

13:28

I mean that was gorgeous.

13:31

That was amazing.

13:33

I think it's huge of these back.

13:35

I think it matters more than people realize.

13:37

Inside the building, it's massive. I

13:40

ate the security guy on the.

13:41

Sideline, I'm trying to get wins.

13:43

Here we come.

13:44

He's more than that. He's the senior advisor to the general

13:46

manager slash chief security officer

13:49

entering its twenty fifth He

13:51

got a big the lifeblood of that team, Dan.

13:54

So it was funny

13:56

at the Sixers.

13:57

Game waiting for a response from him, Babe

13:59

about East Coast Jesus.

14:04

He was out of the Sixers.

14:05

They introduced Dom, and they introduced

14:08

the recent draft picks. They were both watching

14:10

a Sixers playoff game. Dom got bigger Pops.

14:12

That's the most is

14:16

he forever has been fits the town.

14:20

There's nothing else to say, what else is there saying?

14:22

I don't think there's a whole lot more to great

14:25

job Mark. Everything just funnels into

14:27

the same place.

14:29

I would like to.

14:29

See some of Wiggans work too. Like

14:32

portfolio is our portfolio.

14:33

This is kind of an extension of your first

14:37

one. He is for extension

14:39

drama, the

14:41

Jared Goff contract, extension of Detroit.

14:44

It's going to reverberate across the

14:46

NFL landscape, but perhaps the

14:49

tremors will be felt most

14:52

in South Beach. It's

14:56

to a situation, is

14:58

interesting situation, it's

15:00

a certified situation. This

15:04

is Diana Rassini's reporting. Dolphin's

15:07

QB two Tunga Bai Looa is in

15:09

the building for the start of Dolphins OTAs

15:11

per source, the QB is slated to become the next quarterback

15:14

to receive a big payday, but the sides

15:16

are in negotiations. Tuas said he

15:18

was planning on attending the workout,

15:20

so that's good. You don't want to have that thing where the quarterback

15:23

is out in the media fighting battles.

15:25

He is one of the five quarterbacks selected

15:27

in the first two rounds of the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

15:30

along with Joe Burrow, Justin

15:32

Herbert, Jordan Love, Jalen Hurtz. He's

15:34

the only one that has not signed a second deal.

15:37

And then you look at the money and you see that Burrow

15:40

and Herbert signed deals worth two seventy

15:42

five and two sixty two million,

15:44

respectively.

15:45

Hurts two fifty five million.

15:47

Love is kind of in a different bucket obviously,

15:49

but he signed that one year

15:52

deal worth thirteen and a half and guaranteed. But

15:54

that was only one season as a starter so

15:57

far, but total guarantees are

15:59

big. It's around two hundred million,

16:02

give or take twenty million for all the guys,

16:04

and they have to make a decision obviously

16:07

around two whether he is worth that type

16:09

of investment. I think it's a total

16:11

flash point around the history of

16:13

the Dolphins. I think it's the

16:16

if they buy in on Tua

16:19

as their long term guy and

16:22

he has a big, big run here and

16:24

becomes a true franchise quarterback, which they're

16:26

already calling him one, but I don't see it yet.

16:29

He's going to prove a lot of people wrong. But

16:32

if you invest heavily in the sky, that can only

16:34

get you to a certain place and give you some stats

16:38

and he ends up being an albatross on you.

16:40

It could set the franchise back quite

16:42

a way. So big decision for Miami.

16:45

I want to do it, but I think they're

16:47

going to I.

16:48

Think they've made their decision. I

16:50

think they're probably far enough in negotiations

16:53

whatever their offer has been, that he's

16:56

there, that it sounds like

16:58

they're making some progress. I do think him

17:00

and Goff are in a quite similar

17:03

situation where you can reasonably

17:05

say the situation around

17:07

them, the system elevates them. For

17:09

Goff to get all that money, and Gof's you

17:11

know, done a great job as agents have done a great job

17:13

getting a lot of money. Maybe

17:16

it sets a little bit of a groundwork

17:18

here for Tua, and I think

17:20

they'll end up doing it. Goff's deal was

17:22

really like a three to four year deal, depending

17:24

on how you look at it. The fully fully

17:26

guaranteed money was like one fifteen. It was a little

17:29

less than some of those big time quarterbacks.

17:31

But you're right, like that's a lot of money for a

17:34

guy that most people, including myself,

17:36

would not have in like the top eight.

17:37

I'm with you, though, like I just can

17:40

you be convinced if you're running

17:42

Miami's front office that if Tyreek Hill

17:44

went down for eleven weeks and you lost Jalen

17:47

Waddle or whoever that too, is just still

17:49

the same guy that's gonna make it work with whoever's around

17:51

it, because like the top quarterback money should go to

17:53

the realistically five or six guys

17:56

that you know can do that, and there's a lack of there are

17:58

some tiers. You know you've got the contract,

18:00

but it's like there should be more tiered contract

18:03

quarterback scenarios and to it, to me

18:06

needs to be tiered because I don't care about the numbers

18:08

so much, Like I don't know what it is. It's just the football

18:10

fan of me, like I'm a little suspicious of who

18:12

he is minus the system and the.

18:14

Effect Daniel believes in him, which it really feels

18:16

like he does. Then that's gonna be the

18:19

key part of it.

18:20

But then like the domino effect too from

18:22

if he if he doesn't get

18:24

the long term deal, like how do

18:27

some of the other quarterbacks in the league proceed with

18:29

their own situations with their teams,

18:31

Like whether it's Dak Prescott, whether it's your

18:33

love.

18:34

Right, I'm curious because Love did get a second contract,

18:36

but it was this weird sort of in between contract. I think he's

18:38

going to get paid this offseason too, and that that's going

18:40

to be interesting.

18:41

And even though Goff and Tua

18:43

are kind of bedfellows and that I

18:45

think everyone agrees they're not superstars, but

18:47

they're you know, really kind of locked

18:50

in and loaded in trench starters. Goff

18:52

has had pretty incredible

18:55

durability. Has he missed games in his career? I don't

18:57

even know, and that that factors into

19:00

No.

19:00

Two.

19:00

Had got through his first season healthy, but the

19:03

rest of his career also has been check

19:05

mark with serious issues, including.

19:07

Not to be fair. No,

19:09

that's what I said.

19:09

I mean he got through this year, but that doesn't mean now

19:11

that's not an issue anymore. I mean that means he got

19:13

he was healthy for one year.

19:15

Anyway.

19:15

That's part of the reason why it has a tough decision

19:18

up next Glad, I'm not making it

19:21

up next the letter

19:23

F with colin Es.

19:25

Fastidious is the word.

19:27

It's so fun to say, but

19:30

as in the detailed approach that certain players will

19:32

take to their off season preparation. Players

19:34

like Kirk Cousins, who has

19:36

weekly notes from every game he's played

19:39

in as a starter, and he catalogs them and folders

19:41

and tiny little bins, and

19:43

his whole situation has been very detailed.

19:47

He's learning some new things under

19:50

offensive coordinatornator Zach Robinson,

19:52

who was the passing game coordinator and quarterbacks

19:55

coach for the past two years, with Sean McVay, who

19:57

obviously has the ties in

20:00

Washington where Kirk was

20:02

before. So I wonder how many of the concepts

20:04

are going to be that new to him.

20:07

But also he's recovering from the Achilles

20:09

so he won't be active during OTAs anyway,

20:11

And there's the Michael Pennix junior

20:13

of it all.

20:13

It's not like he's going to immediately.

20:15

Take that job, but if

20:17

he does pop during these

20:20

workouts, he'll add some flare

20:22

an additional f word for you to the

20:24

off season.

20:25

I love that good word, and I do think when

20:27

you think the word fastidious, I just imagine

20:30

Kirk in his office

20:32

in his lab getting and already yeah, being

20:34

oh absolutely, And although to

20:37

be fair to him, he's done a good job adapting.

20:39

He's always landed with these coaches that kind

20:42

of coach that sort of system, but he has

20:44

had a lot of different coaches, and he adapted

20:46

fairly quickly to Minnesota when he got there.

20:48

Guys think it's like a huge benefit to

20:50

roll into a system that at least like you

20:53

have some understanding of and can be shaped

20:55

around you versus being thrown into something, because

20:57

I think that delays you a year depending on who you are.

21:00

All Right, Letter F was

21:03

done just now Letter G with h

21:06

G. That's right, triple

21:08

G.

21:08

So that makes four g's. That's a quadruple

21:11

G. Very rare.

21:12

And I'm adding one G to the mix

21:14

here, and that is Genghis

21:16

Khan, who at

21:19

one point, and this is you know, exposing

21:21

a bit of maybe a flaw

21:23

in our setup here that we had this topic

21:26

before, but this will be a different spin on it. At one

21:28

point, Genghis Khan was the perfect player comp

21:30

for David Johnson, who we mentioned announced

21:32

his retirement. So for this, I'm gonna throw to an audio

21:34

clip from October of twenty sixteen,

21:37

a week six T and F recap

21:40

of Cardinals forty nine ers, which Wes and I

21:42

traditionally tacked to the top, or at least that year, tacked

21:45

to the top of our preview episode. Back

21:47

then, one bit of context before you

21:49

listen to it. Randy and started

21:52

Wes and Mark had spent that night

21:54

watching the game together at

21:56

an unknown location.

21:58

Let's hear it, which brings us back to all

22:00

or Nothing when Honey Bidger's on the sideline

22:02

saying, that's a bigger version of Marshall fulk

22:04

And what Mark Sessler would like everyone to know

22:07

tonight is David Johnson

22:10

is like Genghis Khan running with the horse

22:12

and the wind is blowing the main and

22:15

he is taking the Mongolian steps

22:17

while the forty nine ers linebackers

22:20

are little prairie soldiers hiding behind trees

22:22

hoping David Johnson doesn't trample them.

22:25

And with that over to you, that

22:29

was they wrapping up. So wow,

22:32

there you go.

22:32

What I wish I could remember

22:35

what preceded that speech. I do know the

22:37

Genghis Khan has populated half

22:39

of one percent of the entire earth, which is not

22:41

from David Johnson, but

22:43

would be if David Johnson were healthier.

22:45

Perhaps now that night, I believe David

22:47

Johnson had about one hundred and ninety yards

22:50

from Scrimmage. There was a stack because I ended up you know,

22:52

listening uh to this recap

22:54

here that him and Fitzgerald had combined

22:56

for ninety two percent of their offense. Yeah,

22:59

I think he had one hundred and ninety four

23:01

yards. He was doing that on the regular.

23:03

But I do remember that night West

23:06

came in laughing and he had written it

23:08

on his phone in the notes, and it showed

23:10

it to me. So that's why I even was That's why I was even

23:12

laughing before he said it, because I knew. I knew

23:14

what was coming up, Genghis.

23:16

Khan, Prairie Soldiers.

23:18

That was incredible that I

23:20

could by the the inflection in his

23:22

voice. I'm gonna guess. Was that recorded

23:25

at Culver City Culver City.

23:26

Studient, Yes, and usually we would watch the game there,

23:28

but that day he had gone off

23:30

with Mark I think, and watched it and then come back.

23:32

I would imagine there is a place in Culver

23:35

City, which I believe still exists, called the Garage,

23:37

which we've all been to.

23:38

I would have that was a TNF hangout.

23:41

Yes, I was, Yeah, I had.

23:42

I had narrowed it down to the cozy Joxers

23:45

Daily or the Garage.

23:47

Those all were options where televisions

23:49

were plentiful, excellent,

23:52

great to hear Wes also David

23:54

Johnson getting Amazing Pop set Love.

23:57

It was the David Johnson episode.

23:59

All Right, let's take a break and then we will

24:01

continue on with the glossary of terms.

24:07

All Right, we are back. We are off

24:09

and rolling here. Let's move

24:12

to h with Mark Sasla.

24:13

All Right.

24:14

H is for Holly Hobby, an

24:16

innocent children's doll discovered during a modern

24:18

day pirates raid at the Gulf of Guinea in March of

24:20

twenty twenty four.

24:21

Her child owner thrown overboard days ago.

24:24

She gone poor.

24:25

Holly Hobby is taken from port to port by

24:27

unhitched pirates. Our little doll friend

24:29

dreams of escape. She knows in her belly

24:32

that some pirates are kind pirates,

24:34

more aimed at human entertainment than modern

24:36

day raids on ships filled with offshoot

24:38

heroin and stolen crates of fungions. She

24:41

believes the Las Vegas raiders are kind

24:43

pirates. Here for our enjoyment are

24:45

Sunday thrills. She dreams of

24:47

Gardner Minshew saving her

24:49

and saying, as he carries her little cloth

24:52

body away from a twenty two person

24:54

raid vessel, you are protected now.

24:56

Minshew then tells her this we are

24:58

a sneaky nine win team that will

25:00

be made fun of today, but the giggles will

25:03

cease when Autumn becomes a crucible of

25:05

the damned.

25:05

Oom Holly

25:07

Hobby.

25:08

There she is, Yeah, that's

25:10

her. If you're watching, if

25:13

you've ever she's been through.

25:14

Should we subscribe to the YouTube

25:16

channel or not? This is the biggest

25:18

Give her some fingers, Give her.

25:20

Some fingers in a big spot. That's what I would say.

25:22

Do you feel like Mark is very

25:25

fascinated with the dolls

25:27

and child equipment or toys

25:29

from his you know, childhood.

25:31

If I recall them, I I guess that it

25:33

pop when it pops up during the day job.

25:35

You'd have to question that. Greg.

25:36

You're also sneaky supportive

25:39

of the Raiders in the off season, which is very

25:41

anti where you were a year ago.

25:42

At this year ago, I listed like the four to thirteen

25:45

AFC teams that were better than them and lacerated

25:49

online.

25:49

I don't believe that.

25:50

I think that they're a little bit of a sneaky

25:53

under the radar operation.

25:54

That what let me ask you a question,

25:56

what do you what is it about them that gives

25:59

you that sense that they're.

26:01

I am more statistically looking at

26:03

the league in general and thinking that every year there's

26:05

a team that, like somehow in their regression

26:07

candidate the minute the season ends, sneaks

26:09

out nine wins, but they aren't nine win

26:12

worthy and so it doesn't make a lot of logical

26:14

sense, but they keep coming. I was kind of

26:16

meditating on a which team is going to do something

26:18

we don't expect because this happens,

26:20

And I just kept coming back to the Raiders, and it

26:22

could be as nonsensical a take as

26:25

I have in the entire offseason, but I've just.

26:27

That feels like you are locked and loaded. When

26:29

we, hopefully with Bill Barnwell again, when we do

26:31

over unders, Yeah, well I went

26:34

under Greg. I think it's six and a half. I went over

26:36

four trying to be logical a year ago. So I'm

26:38

going to go in a different You know what, you

26:40

were logical.

26:42

You weren't off too much about that they weren't

26:44

better than many teams in the FC. Even

26:46

though they won eight games, only three teams

26:48

four teams had a worse record than them, which

26:51

is strange marks all eight

26:53

and nine.

26:53

And Abovemo Ballerina, No,

26:56

but.

26:56

I was talking to someone about Dolly Pops.

26:58

If you recalled dollypops. No, my Prima

27:00

Ballerina was like the ultimate.

27:03

I wanted one so bad.

27:05

I got it for Christmas, and then all of a

27:07

sudden, my Prima Ballerina disappeared

27:10

and my parents said that they

27:12

put it down the basement. So I

27:14

spent I don't know, as a child,

27:16

maybe a year and a half searching

27:19

the basement for my Prima Ballerina.

27:21

Why was it put away?

27:23

They took it back to the store, they.

27:24

Returned it, and they just said that it

27:26

was down in the basement.

27:28

So maybe one day I'll find

27:30

it.

27:31

I don't know.

27:32

Holly be kind of brought back some come

27:35

up with the the Suzanne.

27:37

I haven't.

27:38

Well, I've moved on from Suzanne. Now

27:42

I'm with Andrea.

27:44

You let you let Suzanne.

27:45

You're a psychiatrist go yeah,

27:49

my therapist therapist.

27:50

Yeah, it seems like

27:53

emotional to do that.

27:54

Yeah, well I did in a text I

27:57

need I needed to move on.

27:58

I was Andrea doing.

28:00

He is great, love Andrea, honestly,

28:02

lovely, wonderful.

28:04

I'm writing the Stamach.

28:05

She has a vespa that she showed up on

28:07

before our appointment the other day, and I was like, well,

28:09

this is it.

28:10

This is party she does how she comes to your boot?

28:13

No, yeah, I was early. Yeah,

28:16

so good times.

28:17

All right, well, Andrea, welcome

28:19

to the Around the NFL team. Let's move

28:21

to uh I.

28:24

Key nambler. I

28:28

is for indictment prior regimes.

28:31

This is a and you know, shout

28:34

out to Nick Shook who wrote this article

28:36

on NFL dot com, and Gordon

28:38

and everybody else on the desk that's just hammering

28:40

out this content in the off season.

28:42

We've been there.

28:42

It's sometimes it's it feels

28:45

like you're comb in the desert.

28:46

Here is a Nick Schuk story. Here's the

28:48

headline.

28:49

Falcons tight end Kyle Pitts tabs

28:52

himself quote super rookie as

28:54

he learns new offense hit

28:56

the the trope alert big

28:59

funk. Because I

29:01

hope this becomes one this idea that you

29:03

can just

29:06

wave your entire career and say

29:08

I'm starting over and then say

29:10

I'm a super rookie.

29:12

I love it.

29:13

It is an indictment, obviously, of everything that the Falcons

29:15

have done. Here's the exact quote.

29:18

I would say I'm a super rookie. I'm

29:20

not a rookie rookie, but we're all in

29:22

this new offense, new regime,

29:25

new schedule. We're all in

29:27

this fresh which sure, okay

29:29

is true. Glad he read that. He also said

29:32

that, you know, we talked about

29:34

was he healthy? Has he been healthy? He

29:37

said that that knee injury that

29:40

ended his twenty twenty two season prematurely

29:42

lingered throughout twenty twenty three

29:44

and what was a really rough season

29:47

for him statistically. I'll

29:49

add that I don't see anywhere in this story

29:52

in this may write up any did

29:54

he have an additional procedure?

29:56

Did he do anything to make the knee better? Now

29:58

do I?

29:58

How do I believe on face value that the knee

30:00

is now fine even though it wasn't fine more

30:03

than a year after the injury that you said you couldn't

30:05

get over throughout last season. So keep an eye on

30:07

the health of Kyle Pitts and whether his knee

30:09

is gonna let him be the athlete he was coming

30:12

out of college. But anyway, the

30:14

Falcons three the

30:16

last three years never happened.

30:17

It's super rookie season.

30:19

The only thing about it is that I

30:21

can't think of a team that you know, you were part of this, Dan,

30:23

and so were others like more frustrated

30:25

with how that offense was run two

30:27

years running, but especially last year, Like there's

30:29

a lot of potential stars they're not used

30:31

correctly. Like could you make the argument

30:34

that Pitts and the rest of them feel like we're let

30:36

out of jail at this point?

30:37

Right, he got a thousand yards his rookie year, and

30:39

he had moments his rookie year where

30:41

he did look like that dude. He

30:44

has been a big reason why

30:47

he hasn't lived up to his billion though the last couple of

30:49

years.

30:49

It's not just about the people, like you can even with like.

30:51

A run heavy scheme and Desmond Ritter like

30:53

he.

30:54

Just isn't moving the same way. He just

30:56

said it to Dan mentioned it like he

30:58

just wasn't moving the same way. He wasn't as explosive,

31:00

he didn't win as many like you

31:03

jump ball type of situations, fifty to fifty balls

31:05

like Drake London is the perfect reason why I

31:07

think it's fair to criticize Kyle Pits.

31:09

You look at Drake London and you say that is

31:11

a dude, Like that guy might

31:14

already be one of the ten or twelve best wide receivers

31:16

in the league. That was a I think like

31:19

a home run pick or a triple pick, like he

31:21

is that guy and you can see that despite the surroundings

31:23

and Kyle pits I don't think you can.

31:25

I wonder if they'll a maze.

31:26

He's not that old though, he's like Sam Laporte's age. He's

31:28

Yeah, he came out so young that.

31:30

I think he's only I mean twenty

31:32

three.

31:32

He's twenty three right now. Yeah, you're in twenty four

31:34

in October.

31:35

So that's I wonder if they'll make him more of a

31:37

focal point, because he felt like he

31:39

was just always sort of in Drake London's

31:41

shadow, which is impossible because he's such a big dude,

31:43

like physically, but it just feels

31:45

like all of the because I had this later

31:48

Dan, So now I have discribed situation,

31:52

but the amount of puff pieces that

31:54

will be written about the Falcons

31:57

offense and where they can go from here.

31:59

It could be a ran new offense with a

32:01

new head coach and just like a complete

32:04

renaissance for everyone there,

32:06

but especially Kyle Pitts.

32:08

You could keep it.

32:08

You don't have to pivot. I stuck with mine. I had a sound

32:11

drop, you know.

32:11

I think it's a good challenge it.

32:14

It will probably happen to all of us.

32:15

We can find new ways to discuss the topic

32:17

if we if we wish, and maybe we don't wish.

32:19

So just and just to revisit

32:22

in general, Atlanta's draft strategy

32:24

at the top of these drafts.

32:25

They took Kyle Pits fourth overall in twenty.

32:27

Twenty one, so yeah, but no one was No one was

32:29

killing him for that at the time.

32:32

At four overall. I feel like that

32:34

was seen as earlier than it expected.

32:37

That was like generational talent. He's like

32:39

a he was here.

32:41

It wasn't like he went fourth overall in twenty

32:43

one.

32:44

A lot of people, I think sort of thought he was. Is he the

32:46

best player in this draft other than you know, Trevor

32:48

Lawrence.

32:48

I guess Jamar Chase is in that draft too.

32:50

But yeah, you took Drake London eighth overall in twenty

32:52

two, you took Bijon eighth overall

32:55

in twenty three, and you took Pennix

32:57

eighth overall in twenty four, So

32:59

you took in the top eight.

33:02

You took a tight end, a running

33:04

back, and a backup quarterback. In the last four

33:06

years three or the last four years. It's just it's an interesting way

33:09

to build your out your future quarterback. You kind of

33:11

need you kind of need one

33:13

of these guys to really hit and become

33:15

what you thought they were. Maybe both all right, up

33:17

next Jay with

33:20

Colleen h Okay.

33:23

So Jay, I'm

33:25

already trying to work on my new V word.

33:29

Here we go as in anxiety

33:31

creeping in calling Andrea speed.

33:34

Dial jaunt,

33:36

as in Dave Canalis's appointment

33:39

in Carolina. Will it be long term

33:41

or will it be just the latest in a recent line?

33:48

So under Tepper be talking.

33:50

The coaches have been Ron

33:52

Rivera, there was the interim Perry Fuel,

33:55

Matt Ruhle, Steve Wilkes had a moment

33:57

interim le. We had Frank Reich and

33:59

then his table took over last

34:01

year for a bit. And so now it's Dave Canalis's

34:04

turn. And what does that mean for

34:07

Bryce Young? Because Canalis was

34:09

credited with all of the help

34:12

that he got that Gino Smith got in

34:14

Seattle and Baker Mayfield and Tampa

34:16

Bay.

34:17

They brought in Deontay Johnson.

34:19

They drafted Xavier Laguette at

34:21

the wide receiver position, so they jouj the

34:23

offensive line as well, so

34:25

what does that mean for Bryce Young and

34:27

Dave Canalis because now they will be linked

34:30

forever in this season ahead.

34:33

I think Dave Canal I love that we're talking about

34:35

because I think he's under the radar, is going to be

34:37

like a big figure, yeah coming up, because

34:40

he has an interesting vibe, a

34:42

ton of energy. It totally makes

34:44

sense to me that he's extremely close with Pete

34:46

Carroll and he looks at Pete Carroll as like

34:48

his greatest life mentor and

34:51

coaching mentor, because he feels

34:53

to me like kind of a younger

34:56

version of the vibe. Pete Carroll gives

34:58

off incredible positive ventage I think

35:00

brings people with him and it's just like

35:02

a lot, and I think he's done a good job,

35:05

Like he's done a good job maximizing his guy. So

35:07

if Bryce Young is gonna get to like

35:09

average this year, which I think would be a good outcome,

35:11

if he's just like a solid enough quarterback, then

35:13

I think Canais is the guy to do it.

35:15

It was like no better resume builder

35:17

than like two years in a row reviving

35:19

quarterbacks. Everyone falls for that. This

35:22

is a team because some teams get backed in this

35:24

situation. You can't make any personnel

35:26

moves for years. You got to just let these guys do

35:28

it. You can't recycle again. What the

35:30

guys need attempting.

35:34

I'm gonna you're just like are

35:36

you're arguing together?

35:37

Like?

35:37

How hot is Dave Canalis? That that's how

35:39

it started. But ironically looking

35:42

guy, it.

35:42

Is his hotness that has been his undoing

35:44

in his past. Breaking news, bunk,

35:50

breaking ass news from the

35:52

New York Post.

35:56

How many years ago. It's

35:58

late January, but for us it's breaking

36:00

news.

36:01

New Panthers coach Dave Canal has had a quote

36:04

secret life of porn addiction

36:06

and binge drinking.

36:08

We wrote a book on it. Yeah,

36:11

Oh, how was the book, mister know it all?

36:13

Oh, he wrote a book on it. Like he

36:16

talked about this at ISA and

36:18

found out seconds ago he wrote a book.

36:20

He talked about it as opening press conference. He literally

36:23

has a book that I think it was.

36:25

I wrote a book on it. His faith.

36:28

His faith helped him work through

36:30

his problems with infidelity, and.

36:32

That was part of the right.

36:35

It was third on the list.

36:36

The book has got to start meeting every Wednesday night.

36:39

The book is called This Marriage

36:41

Question Mark, the question that changed

36:44

everything?

36:46

All right, Well that's interesting.

36:48

Cool?

36:48

What letter were you again?

36:50

That is wild?

36:52

I did?

36:52

I was this up? This? Wait,

36:55

it's this marriage?

36:56

Yeah, question mark, big time question

36:59

mark and a big this marriage

37:02

the question that changed everything.

37:04

He said he wrote the book to help other couples.

37:06

Struggling with marriage, a question the author was

37:08

asking himself and then answers with the with the book

37:10

and what happened since.

37:11

How about he also used to be a cowboy boot

37:13

salesman.

37:14

Well that's cool. Wait?

37:16

Or is it this marriage or

37:19

is it this marriage that really

37:21

matters? Like like this marriage?

37:24

Well, I think it's the reader. The reader can decide.

37:27

How do you think he intended? I guess is what I'm s I.

37:29

Don't remember you've given what were the example number

37:31

two of sound pretty similar?

37:33

Like great art.

37:34

I think you want to leave some room open for

37:36

interpretation.

37:37

With your book title, though, I don't know. I'd stress

37:39

this. It's not any marriage, it's this marriage.

37:42

Stress this best marriage.

37:44

This marriage. Yeah, like that kind of like ours.

37:47

Yeah, while we're talking keep pounding.

37:49

I don't know if you guys knew. Last week was actually

37:52

keep Pounding Day in North Carolina

37:54

and a number of events

37:56

in communities, you know, giving back

37:59

to the community keeps

38:03

did that?

38:03

I like that panthers

38:06

oriented element comes up later

38:08

in the show. I just we just gloss right by

38:10

it. We don't okay, we don't discuss it after.

38:12

They have so the Todd Downing

38:14

offensive coordinator of the Titans.

38:18

What book did he write?

38:19

Well, he has the they use his poll quote right

38:21

on top of the cover and

38:23

he ends it with Lizzie. Uh,

38:25

you know, but that is exactly what Lizzie and Dave

38:27

have provided with this marriage.

38:29

But then it's not a question mark there.

38:32

It's tough. And that's a tough one.

38:33

Because technically it should it should

38:35

end with a question mark there too.

38:37

Well, that's on the editors.

38:38

But unless he doesn't have a question about it anymore,

38:41

that's your guy, now, Todd down and.

38:43

Then we got him locked them in. All

38:45

right, who's next?

38:48

I believe?

38:49

Are we at kakay with Greg Rose? Okay?

38:55

That was I have regrets all of a sudden.

38:58

K is for or catalog

39:01

gphobia K

39:03

A T A G E l ophobia,

39:05

catalgophobia, which is the fear of

39:07

being ridiculed or laughed at.

39:10

And you know, sometimes this sort of

39:12

phobia, this sort of fear.

39:14

It starts in childhood.

39:16

Just people that are exposed

39:18

to criticism, maybe tough, and

39:20

they have a right

39:22

and offended psyche. Whereas

39:24

if you have like a better foundation, maybe

39:27

you're not a victim of

39:29

this. If some teams

39:32

I think experience catalegophobia,

39:34

they're more sensitive, you know what I mean, You

39:37

can probably guess who they are. Like it often

39:39

goes along with like a history of

39:41

little success. But I thought I'd flip this around

39:43

and name my three figures or

39:46

teams that would be least likely to have this who are

39:48

just so secure in their own

39:50

secin Number one would be or

39:52

number three rather would be the Cowboys. Just as an

39:55

organization, you can say a lot about the Cowboys.

39:57

They will invite criticism if anything they

39:59

like almost seem like sometimes they seek

40:01

it out in a way. I remember when we were at training

40:03

camp and there was like a crazy story about a

40:05

contract hold out, and they make their

40:07

players available to all the media so

40:10

that it can become a big story, even though they're

40:12

getting criticized in those stories. So I think in

40:14

the end they're kind of fine with whatever said

40:16

about it.

40:16

I think they are very very

40:18

confident to your point in the cowboyness

40:21

of it all and that that will see them through

40:23

the darkest of right.

40:24

So they're confident.

40:25

And since I three to one, yeah,

40:28

Number two would be Mike Tomlin. I

40:30

don't know if we have that old sounddrop's

40:34

a good entry where he just was like, I do

40:36

not care, we

40:39

do not care.

40:39

Now there it is good

40:42

child funk and.

40:43

I believe it, Like I just believe

40:45

when when coaches say like, we don't care about

40:47

what they're saying on the outside. When Mike Thomas says

40:49

that, I do believe it. Whatever he believes, he believes,

40:51

I don't think he's getting bothered. And then number one, I

40:53

would guess it would just be Jim Harbaugh. I mean I

40:56

just feel like he's he's rolling with

40:58

whoever Jim Harby is could be on this

41:00

list too, But Jim, like he

41:03

is who he is.

41:03

He's not going to make any day

41:06

it's two day.

41:08

He's very he's very confident in who he is. I'm

41:11

scared of, not worried about the criticism.

41:13

I agree.

41:14

I think also the teams that have when

41:17

you win, that makes

41:19

you feel your above outside. Like I'm sure Andy

41:21

Reid feels pretty confident in

41:23

himself. A lack of cattle phobia

41:27

like a phobia, had like a phobia,

41:29

what was.

41:30

The other phobia that we always

41:32

talk about.

41:35

That's a tough one to People with cattle like a

41:37

phobia may experience symptoms such

41:39

as burning cheeks, desire to

41:41

look away, awkward half smile, feeling

41:43

like everyone is staring at you, and goosebumps.

41:46

That sounds terrible, it's I

41:49

feel.

41:49

Have we not all experienced that?

41:50

It's It's some It's a very human yeah,

41:53

feeling some some level, I think, but

41:57

like maybe to the phobia level. All

42:02

right, mark Elle, okay, Ell

42:04

is for Lauri Meda catillog phobia at

42:06

the door.

42:07

Here we go. Ell is for Laurie Metcalf. Do you have anything

42:09

else to say? You want to? I said, check your ca. Elle

42:12

is for Lauri Metcalf. Do you remember her?

42:14

The hardworking Hollywood actress who played

42:16

Jackie Harris, the issues laiden sister

42:18

to Roseanne on Roseanne, a nineteen nineties

42:20

runaway hit. Metcalf also starred

42:23

as Kevin Costner's loyal aid female

42:25

assistant Da Susie Cox and Oliver Stone's

42:27

nineteen ninety one film JFK. Before

42:30

appearing as a landlady in Leaving Las

42:32

Vegas, a Nick Cage Meg Ryan hit,

42:34

released on October twenty seventh, nineteen

42:36

ninety five, Right during the Cowboys

42:39

bye week, Dallas was

42:41

six and one.

42:42

There was a zero question on our earth.

42:44

To Greg's point about their power, we

42:46

didn't need hollow speeches or self loving

42:48

statements to help us understand their

42:51

vice grip over the week, over the

42:53

strong, over everything in sports.

42:55

Now we're in the dumb days? Or are we?

42:58

Has Jerry Jones finally found the special

43:00

sauce the Dream Tonic, a team

43:02

with a handful of stars and a coach

43:05

playing for their contracts and NFL lives?

43:08

How about Lori Metcalf playing behind the scenes

43:10

heroin Charlotte Jones in the twenty

43:12

twenty six Hulu funded drama How

43:14

about Them Cowboys colon Daddy's

43:17

Home?

43:20

That would be great.

43:21

I'd watch it following up the documentary,

43:24

but i'd watch for.

43:26

A team like the Cowboys. You can't get up.

43:28

I mean, the Lakers have had docs and they've had series

43:30

and they just keep cranking them out.

43:33

I don't love the title too.

43:34

I don't get the feeling that the Cowboys are gonna

43:37

be a buzzy pick right now.

43:39

Isn't that good for once? Maybe?

43:41

But I don't think is gonna be a reason for it because I

43:44

think we almost saw the best of this Cowboys

43:47

nucleus already and it wasn't good enough.

43:49

And what I was wondering because I was like, I went, I wrote,

43:51

is like going on the road and just killing them. I was like, no, no, no, what

43:53

if it's flipped where it's like he's got them

43:55

or they've got them into a situation

43:57

where it's like it's not that the vice grip is on because

44:00

that never feels the way to some degree, but it's like all

44:02

of you could be like I could completely blow up this team

44:05

and start it over an off season from now if I wanted

44:07

to, if I wanted just to completely nuke

44:09

this thing, because everyone's kind of at the end. So

44:11

it's like, does that do these players on this

44:13

team respond or to that we don't care about

44:15

critique or anything? Are they just floating

44:17

along? As they float along all the time, We'll

44:20

see.

44:20

Great job by Laurie Metcalf and Ladybird.

44:23

That scene I love Ladybird when driving

44:25

her to the airport, That like rated

44:28

apparent and almost impossibly.

44:31

I believe she still plays.

44:32

Jackie Metcalf on a television show that

44:35

airs on ABH.

44:36

Yes there's a spin off. Yes, I

44:38

noticed that. I do.

44:39

I do a pretty good Roseanne laugh

44:41

impression.

44:42

Do you want to hear it? Oh? No, you

44:44

don't want to hear it. I won't know. I'm not going to

44:46

say it.

44:46

I would like to hear it.

44:47

You want to hear it?

44:48

Yeah?

44:48

No, I

44:52

Shan does that a lot.

44:54

That's also like every evil clown from

44:56

North America.

44:57

But if those who know the opening credits

44:59

of Roseanne, I think that was good.

45:01

And then I also have a kind of.

45:02

A running joke with my wife

45:05

when uh, you know, we're you

45:07

know, it's the middle of the week and you know, we got two

45:09

kids and I got a busy house, like and

45:11

hey, what's the dinner plan for tonight?

45:14

And then sometimes it will just like slip

45:16

through, like we don't have a plan, and at six point thirty

45:18

and then I'll do a joke where if

45:20

Emily's like, I don't know, I'll be like, I

45:23

go into my Roseanne impression.

45:24

Like I'll go get them some hamburger,

45:27

helper and junk. She

45:30

loves it. She loves it. Yeah, that seems

45:32

like a healthy way to approach that.

45:34

What a window into your week.

45:36

Now we're talking about the sauciage gets mad, I

45:40

don't know and junk. All right, that is my Roseanne

45:42

Up next is this

45:46

is kind of hard the way it's it's graft out. So

45:49

you just went right.

45:50

Mark I went, Oh no, no, Mark went

45:52

and that was Flory Metcalf.

45:55

There we go, all right, So let's

45:57

move to M and it will

45:59

be four. Mister

46:02

Raider M jim

46:05

Otto a Pro Football Hall of Fame

46:07

center. Those

46:10

who know know he wore double

46:12

zeros and he was in the

46:14

pivot of some of the great Raiders

46:17

offensive lines and teams. Ever,

46:20

he died at the age of eighty six over

46:22

the weekend. He

46:26

was known as the original Raider, the

46:31

dominant center of his era.

46:34

He had a singular goal. Now here's a quote.

46:36

This was this mantra that he repeated

46:39

over and over again and

46:42

John, never will

46:44

they kick my butt?

46:48

That's the quote.

46:49

That's the quote. Never.

46:51

And he did a lot of butt kicking, starting

46:55

in the AFL through the merger

46:57

and seventy.

46:58

Retired after seventy four. He starred as

47:00

a center.

47:01

We want to talk about whatever happened to Gary Cooper

47:03

when men were men?

47:05

Otto started two hundred and.

47:06

Ten straight regular season games two twenty.

47:08

Three including the playoffs.

47:10

Twelve time Pro Bowler, there

47:13

was talk that he should be the face of the Raider

47:16

on the logo with the iPad eyepatch,

47:18

he said, but with a broken nose.

47:23

Whatever happened to Gary Cooper? He

47:26

played center for the opener. Started

47:32

his career.

47:35

With eleven straight All

47:37

Pro teams and only one of those

47:40

was a second team.

47:41

Started out.

47:42

I can't imagine there are many players in the

47:44

history of the NFL that started their

47:47

career with six straight first team All pros. Wow,

47:49

as a rookie. Then he had a second team for one year. I don't

47:51

know who beat him out in sixty six, and then he

47:54

he racks up another four. That's

47:56

that's on the short list of like all

47:59

time, all time greats.

48:00

When you go to like Pro Football Reference and you can

48:02

see like, oh, you know, Kyle Pitts, like he started

48:04

nine games and fin like when you go to Auto's

48:06

page, like you said, it's just fourteens

48:09

head to toe.

48:10

He never missed.

48:11

It's a different era, but also to say that he was the face

48:13

of the Raiders, because I'll never forget. When I covered

48:15

that final Raiders game, I did a separate piece talking

48:17

to like eight or nine like dudes

48:19

from that era, and a lot of them mentioned him,

48:22

And there was a lot of competition to be

48:24

the face of that Raiders team, from the coaching world,

48:27

to the players, to some of the legends like and

48:29

he was that dude, and so yeah, there's

48:31

not a lot like him.

48:32

I like that he talked about the hardest

48:34

hit that he ever received it a game was

48:36

from Ray Nichkei and that he broke

48:39

his face mask and that's what broke his

48:41

nose and said it the way that it was mm hmm.

48:43

Broke my cheekbone, my zygomatic

48:46

archbone.

48:47

That's good.

48:48

It attached my retina and my left eye. I was

48:50

blind for six months and my left eye it was

48:52

really bad. It all swelled up and I couldn't

48:54

see, but I

48:57

kept playing.

48:58

I never went out of the game with

49:00

a detached retina.

49:02

But Kyle Pitts's knee is sore, guys, Oh,

49:06

that is unbelievable. Anyway,

49:09

a true warrior of the game passes

49:12

away. Jim Otto at the age of eighty

49:14

six. Let's take a break and we will continue

49:17

onward. All

49:21

right, we are back. We are moving on, Colleen.

49:23

You are in the pivot now.

49:25

Okay.

49:25

The letter n N is for nascent,

49:28

as in Detroit's reconstructed

49:31

secondary and it's nascent phase. Woo.

49:33

They needed a rebirth, hon me, after only

49:36

Washington allowed more yards

49:38

passing yards per game last season. They used

49:40

their first two draft picks on corners,

49:42

traded up for terry On Arnold, got

49:45

Ennis Rakestrawl at sixty one, and

49:47

then they traded their third rounder to the

49:49

Bucks for Carlson Davis. So all three

49:51

of those draft picks are potential Week one

49:53

starters in their secondary.

49:56

They addressed They looked

49:58

at what their biggest issue was last year, and they couldn't

50:00

have like addressed it any faster,

50:03

any more aggressively.

50:04

They tried to do it a year ago.

50:05

To be fair, there was actually a little bit of like, hey,

50:07

they've improved their secondary year ago at this time and

50:10

those guys are no longer on the team. But

50:13

having Brian Branch to begin

50:16

with, like hitting on that draft pick and then adding

50:19

you would think Arnold feels like a

50:21

pro ready type of guy in Carlton Davis has already

50:23

shown he's a good start.

50:24

I mean, I think a team like the Lions too,

50:26

where it's like, don't have any lips on the

50:28

radar and you you kind of don't

50:31

have too many weaknesses. They've done

50:33

that, They've done a lot in two or three off

50:35

seasons. But you keep Aaron Glenn the defensive

50:37

coordinator, you keep Ben Johnson the offensive

50:40

coordinator.

50:40

It's like, it is there.

50:41

You could have rolled the dice that one of those two, if not

50:43

both, could have been somewhere else right now,

50:45

and you're kind of starting over with new phraseology

50:47

and new coaches knew everything. That's like this

50:49

team is so much about their coaching staff, and I

50:51

love that they've kind of kept it all together and it's like, what's

50:54

the weakness here? I know you could pick, you could nitpick

50:56

a little, but not They've.

50:58

They thrived under higher expectation last

51:00

year, as we know, starting right in week

51:02

one when they knock off Kansas City in

51:05

the opener, they what are they finished with twelve

51:07

wins last year where they land last year

51:09

and five twelve and five and you know, make it all

51:11

the way to the NFC title game.

51:12

Damn near win that game against

51:14

the Niners.

51:16

So I can't sit here and

51:18

then say, well, how will they handle expectations

51:20

this year?

51:21

I think they'll be fine.

51:22

However, now it's a it's

51:24

a bird of a different color, like you have to

51:27

get over the hump. You have to Anything short

51:29

of getting out of the NFC now is

51:32

maybe not failure but a disappointment. So

51:34

it's the Detroit lines as we knew them are

51:36

totally transformed. But it's very hard

51:39

to get over the hump. And there's still a lot of big time

51:41

competition in the conference.

51:43

So we'll see what they can do. This is gonna be it's

51:45

gonna be a battle, and we'll see if they can get over the hump.

51:48

They're set up so well.

51:49

And I also love the Terry On Arnold and Brian Branch

51:51

played together at Alabama already, so that's

51:53

kind of nice that they already have that probably energy.

51:56

Then all right, Greg the letter,

51:58

Oh all right, I'm gonna go with a great word

52:01

obedient, complying

52:03

with or submissive to authority. I like when

52:05

a word just sounds like it should obey

52:07

me. Obedience I'm

52:10

saying.

52:11

They call uncomfortable, but we're gonna keep moving.

52:13

Greg was saying this exactly at this time Yesterday

52:15

is Sunday in his house.

52:20

Go ahead.

52:21

I don't think if the

52:23

Raiders and the Saints come out to Southern

52:26

California for training camp and they are that

52:29

they're fan, that they should be obedient

52:32

to this NFL rule that

52:35

because of marketing rights in the

52:37

Southern California area that they

52:39

don't necessarily have the rights to have

52:41

fans at their training

52:44

camp. Now, the Raiders have been more

52:46

out in front saying we're having conversations

52:48

with both teams about the logistics of it. Talks

52:50

are still ongoing, so it sounds like

52:52

they're pushing for it. The Saints aren't really

52:54

answering questions. And I just feel like going

52:57

to a training camp is such a

53:00

outstanding way to grow the

53:02

support of your team and have young fans

53:04

go there for you know nothing and

53:06

just be around football that having

53:09

training camps without fans like doesn't

53:11

feel like training camp at all. And yes, I

53:13

know it's the Saints in Southern California, how many people

53:15

are really going to be showing up there every day? I'm sure people would

53:17

be showing up and so I hope

53:19

they they pushed to make that happen. I hope

53:22

it's not something where like I

53:24

don't know that either the Rams and Chargers

53:26

don't allow or that the teams really don't even want

53:28

it. I don't I don't know, Like to me, that's that's

53:30

not training camp. Don't be obedient in this way.

53:32

And if and if they do try to keep fans out, like

53:35

fans should let them know, Like you're trying to

53:37

grow your your brand. The Raiders have done

53:39

a great job over that Saints, Like you're

53:41

trying to grow fans, don't don't keep them out.

53:43

It feels like a weird NFL thing in general that

53:46

like some of these stipulations kind of get like maybe

53:48

why they were cooked up, but like what they went

53:50

to? What was it Greenbrier for like

53:52

years of it's right like secret compounds.

53:54

I don't know what it is, but like, uh, like why

53:56

would you have any fan base?

53:58

Not I would just promote it everywhere,

54:00

So I'm with you, Like.

54:01

It just sort of feels like this is just California

54:04

here, Well it did.

54:06

The rule would apply I guess everywhere, but it only

54:09

matters because everyone's trying to come to southern California.

54:11

Yeah, because they're technically in the Raiders.

54:14

I mean they're the Raiders, and the Saints are coming into

54:16

the Chargers and Rams area

54:19

and they either need to get some permission,

54:21

but there's questions like about whether they

54:23

even want the permission and how they're going to do it. The Raiders

54:26

do say that they're they're trying to figure it out.

54:28

Saint Steam president Dennis Lauschia

54:30

explained that on site logistics, not

54:32

NFL marketing rules, are.

54:33

A bigger hurdle for the team.

54:35

He believes that finding room for fans that you see

54:37

Irvin's campus is going.

54:39

But the okay, I read

54:41

that too, But I went to multiple

54:43

great training cramps with the

54:46

Rams, Like my kids had a

54:48

blast the day they went, and that was the same facility.

54:50

So just saying and they had like food trucks and stuff.

54:53

Right, it was all happened. You said cramps

54:55

and just trying to.

54:57

Move past that, I'm out

55:00

there are a lot of cramps.

55:01

Then good one, good one, all right, Well,

55:03

hopefully that all works out.

55:04

Gregy up to Mark Sasser,

55:06

the letter.

55:07

P all right, here is where some crossover

55:09

occurs, and I don't give an f p

55:12

is for Pennix Comma Michael Kama Junior

55:15

in our news from I listen to dense white noise

55:18

on earphones, hail and rain and chaos in the

55:20

woods while banging out alphabet narratives. As

55:22

an adult male pressing question, how

55:24

will humans react when Michael Pennix Junior

55:27

takes over as QB one for Atlanta?

55:29

As early as week six, the two

55:32

and three Falcons crumbling inexcusably

55:34

twenty three to ten to the Carolina Panthers.

55:37

A sense of dread hovers beloved

55:39

Kirk Cousins hasn't been himself all season.

55:41

Five touchdowns, ten picks, including

55:44

a pick six just before the half. Raheem

55:46

Morris recalls a tweet from Michael

55:48

Pennix Senior issued on June twenty

55:50

seventh, twenty twenty. You see my boy,

55:53

He's coming into his zone. I can feel

55:55

it and tweet. Morris decides

55:58

be his own man, throw chatterbox

56:01

media types into the circular file,

56:03

and bring Pennix Junior into the

56:05

fire. Four touchdowns later, the Falcons

56:08

thirty eight to twenty three victors over Carolina

56:10

are reborn as a new creation of

56:12

the elegant South.

56:14

Wow that is quite a scenario.

56:17

It's giving up on Kirk quite

56:20

quickly, although he's struggling. It's two and three.

56:23

It's a tricky situation. It's early enough. Could

56:26

you trade him, Probably not with all the cap hit

56:28

that you would get, but maybe the next offseason. People

56:31

like myself that say, okay, they're locked in the Kirk for

56:33

two years. I mean there is a crazy scenario

56:35

where if this happened, for instance,

56:38

that they could trade Kirk next offseason

56:40

with that guaranteed.

56:42

Haven't they set up a sort of a dangerous situation

56:44

where if Kirk, let's say it did struggle.

56:45

I'm not saying this happens. This is a bit four fetch.

56:47

But we've created a dangerous

56:50

Yeah, like your fan base, if he lights it,

56:52

Pennix is like whipping the ball

56:54

like they say he will, like during training camp, Like your

56:56

fans, it just's lodged in their minds, like, wait a minute.

56:58

This just misses a game.

57:00

Happens to the quarterbacks, especially on Achilles.

57:03

Not him until last year. But yeah, yeah,

57:05

but pre season too.

57:06

We've seen it so many times where like the rookies

57:08

come in, they light it up.

57:09

It's preseason.

57:10

They're not playing like great competition, and

57:12

that's when everything starts.

57:14

And that's why I think of Lamar like everything

57:16

if you that's

57:19

certainly Michael Penas could be a star.

57:21

You don't know that, but it's like, but then

57:23

everything keeps for me going back to the same question,

57:25

but then, why did you sign Kirk

57:28

Cousins. Why did you put this

57:30

roadblock in front of him and

57:32

the kid and create this hyper

57:37

awkward situation that could

57:39

undermine the entire operation.

57:41

It reminds me of the courl Never that

57:43

Howie Roseman talked about when they drafted

57:46

Jalen Hurts and they had Carson

57:48

Wentz in place, and he was like, the Eagles are trying

57:50

to be a quarterback factory.

57:51

Okay, but they I'm

57:53

not. There was a different situation than

57:56

this is. This is a totally unique situation.

57:58

We haven't really seen before. And we'll

58:01

say I would imagine Cousins plays one year

58:03

and they trade him, right.

58:04

I think, I think if he plays well, he plays

58:06

two years. Kirk had his first press

58:08

conference in front of the Atlanta media. Handled

58:11

it all well, I thought, really

58:13

embraced pen X. But the one key

58:16

moment where I was like, oh, that was kind of the real answer

58:18

was you know when they when they asked

58:20

about the like, well, if you

58:22

had known they were going to draft pen X, and he was just

58:24

like, well, I don't deal in hypotheticals. It's like because

58:27

he was trying to be feel at least a little real in

58:29

that moment.

58:30

Yet it was an all time rug pull on

58:32

a player too to to give him

58:34

that contract, promise him in the world this is your

58:36

team now, and then without any notice,

58:39

draft the replacement before he ever played a game. It's

58:42

it's unreal. It's it's it's crazy. We're

58:44

going to see how it all plays out. Tell

58:46

me more about this white noise, Mark.

58:49

I don't need to use it anymore. But

58:51

back when our newsroom I did this morning just because

58:53

there was a there were people shouting like something

58:56

or other. So, but like when our newsroom was crazy,

58:58

it's like, oh, like everyone's just chat and

59:00

like, you know, eating sandwiches and throwing food arounds,

59:02

like, oh, but breaking news just happened, and

59:04

you have to write three graphs in four minutes.

59:06

Like I was like, f the surrounding noise

59:08

because it does bother me more than something so I would I

59:11

found because I also had a babies, like a baby

59:13

or two babies at the time, Like a lot of white noise

59:15

happening in the house, Like this sounds helpful to

59:17

a baby to sleep, Like I can write with this where

59:19

I can hear nothing but intense like nature

59:22

sounds that were consistent.

59:23

It's the only way that I can concentrate on anything.

59:26

But yeah, I think it's but I use brown noise. That's

59:29

like a different frequency and it's

59:31

much better.

59:32

I use it for sleeping.

59:33

Music is a nice music, I'm too distracted

59:35

by the lyrics and everything else, Like I just need

59:37

nothing.

59:37

Almost it got.

59:39

You to a place of nothing, nothingness.

59:41

So the old newsroom there was not only food being

59:43

eaten, but being thrown around.

59:45

I don't know, everyone's like everyone know, but you know, you

59:47

know how it was.

59:47

It was like a cartoon, but you were like the

59:49

one person writing the story, and it

59:51

seemed like everyone everyone else is just giggling

59:54

and dancing and running around and like ses.

59:55

Acually in the damashek era right.

59:57

And then that you had that Tuesday sandwich tosses.

1:00:00

You had that happened Thursday sandwich toss

1:00:02

and it's the Friday pizza toss.

1:00:04

I will cover my ears like sometimes because

1:00:06

I could not concentrate.

1:00:07

We are the same, Mark, I.

1:00:08

Mean, I cranked out the story though I got to you. Sure did?

1:00:11

You got it done? What's the other alternative? Take

1:00:14

a walk? It is? It's

1:00:17

Mark's mind.

1:00:18

It's great if.

1:00:19

You really turn it up like in your ear, like,

1:00:21

it removes all.

1:00:22

I could actually I could picture you writing

1:00:24

a Rex Grossman three hundred order

1:00:27

right now.

1:00:29

It's really nice.

1:00:30

It's peaceful.

1:00:31

But if you just like turn the dial like seven

1:00:33

percent, it's like the start of a horror movie.

1:00:36

Yeah.

1:00:37

Or you here, you see Mark focusing and then you look down

1:00:39

and you see the headphones aren't actually plugged into anything?

1:00:46

All right? Que que right?

1:00:48

Is that right? Que me? Q?

1:00:51

Is for question? Colon nailed it?

1:00:53

Will you watch the latest version of Hard Knocks?

1:00:57

I will, yep, company woman, absolutely.

1:01:00

I haven't watched all the NFL

1:01:02

offerings with Hard Knocks, and I didn't even watch the first

1:01:04

in season one for long,

1:01:07

but I'll give you this one a shot because of when it's coming

1:01:09

out in the calendar. I actually think it's a perfect

1:01:12

time. It is when you're it's I think early

1:01:14

July when it's why they drop the Netflix

1:01:16

show. Then you're you're hankering for a little football

1:01:18

and just that it's different and it's off season

1:01:21

and it's draft stuff, like I'm curious

1:01:23

how deep they go into the front office stuff. I'll check

1:01:25

check it out once, you know, I'll check it out

1:01:28

this season or a few episodes, and if

1:01:30

it's good, you stick with it.

1:01:31

And I don't think we talked about it on our schedule

1:01:33

release show. It's the New York Giants covering

1:01:36

what from the end of the off season until essentially

1:01:38

when it comes to.

1:01:39

Hard Knocks colon off season with the New

1:01:41

York Giants.

1:01:42

I'm fine with it.

1:01:42

I would imagine a lot of it is the draft.

1:01:44

How could it not.

1:01:45

I want to see the Saquon fallout, right,

1:01:47

I.

1:01:47

Guess like you, but like I also, my one thing

1:01:49

is because I think the one thing about Hard Knocks, even

1:01:51

though Hard Knocks is like what happened in the past

1:01:54

week, like the training camp one, you're

1:01:56

tied to those storylines and you find out new stuff. I

1:01:58

want to, like if it's going to be an hour about

1:02:01

why the Giants signed Brian Burns, like, okay,

1:02:04

I want to really learn about how front

1:02:06

offices work.

1:02:06

That's all.

1:02:07

I like, the news itself is from

1:02:09

four to five months ago, and we've been talking about the Giants

1:02:11

at that point for four to five months, so like you got

1:02:13

the challenges make that fresh, and I mean they

1:02:15

must think they can do that.

1:02:16

And there's a reason why those that know

1:02:19

the Hard Knocks history and Connie,

1:02:21

we've done the podcast the last exactly if

1:02:24

you know the history, and the history is rich

1:02:26

Rich. The Giants have never

1:02:28

done the show. And the Giants are one of those

1:02:30

Tiffany franchises that distance themselves

1:02:33

from things that are quote distractions.

1:02:36

This is something they can control, so it's like this

1:02:38

is an in house operation where they could work

1:02:40

on the edit of it. Part of what makes the

1:02:42

original and still greatest iteration of it the

1:02:45

Training Camp version for sure, And why

1:02:47

I wish they would just honestly focus on

1:02:49

The Hard Knocks and less about being

1:02:51

a brand and just like that show, because

1:02:54

I think that show is special as you can't as

1:02:56

a team totally control it because

1:03:00

happening in real time week to week, you have

1:03:02

control of the edit, of course, and they can and

1:03:04

you've seen it. I feel like more in recent years than

1:03:06

try to filter out things that maybe

1:03:09

they don't want focused on when

1:03:11

it comes to hard knocks, but still,

1:03:13

the way a training camp

1:03:15

moves along, you're kind of flying,

1:03:18

you're a little bit vulnerable, and teams like the

1:03:20

Giants don't like that. So this to me

1:03:22

feels like an in house NFL Films

1:03:24

operation that the Giants signed off signed

1:03:26

off on. It's safe, and Giants

1:03:29

fans will like it. If I was a Giants fan, i'd watch

1:03:31

it, And if you're not a Giants fan,

1:03:33

maybe you will, or maybe you'll.

1:03:35

Wait for

1:03:37

the original version. That's all I can

1:03:39

say.

1:03:41

I mean, as soon as I hear the music, I want to

1:03:43

watch though, So I'm like, there's

1:03:46

drawn to it.

1:03:47

It's gonna be a different count of characters, though, it's not

1:03:49

gonna be funny players talking about the REATA stores.

1:03:51

It's a bunch of front office people, right, It'll be different.

1:03:53

The reason why I have some I have more

1:03:55

optimism, I think, is that

1:03:58

these team and ultimately

1:04:00

look NFL Films were all one big

1:04:03

company NFL. It is always an in house operation

1:04:05

when it's NFL Films. These team

1:04:08

videos that they make of behind the scenes for

1:04:10

the draft, which is even more explicitly like

1:04:12

they're not going to put anything that puts the team in

1:04:14

a bad light. Have been pretty informative

1:04:16

and a lot of times like does have stuff

1:04:19

I'm interested in and those are created

1:04:21

by the team. Now those are quicker, you

1:04:23

know, and this is a longer format, certainly, but I

1:04:25

think that that's why and I am interested. And then

1:04:27

when they show when they have good team inside

1:04:30

ones that are made by the team, often it's pretty good. I

1:04:32

like Hard Knocks a little dangerous.

1:04:35

Yeah, it's like when we're at the.

1:04:36

Brown's Hard Knocks and you see the head coach and offensive

1:04:39

coordinador battling for the control of the team in

1:04:41

front of the coup to

1:04:43

the Browns credit, like they're like, you know what, we

1:04:45

agreed to do this, this is what's happening.

1:04:47

This is going out there.

1:04:48

Like I just the more you take

1:04:51

away from that world, I just

1:04:54

I like the idea of like, oh, I want to see

1:04:56

what happens here? How are they going to handle this? Like

1:04:58

are they going to spin it or not it? And just show

1:05:00

us the unvarnished truth of the situation. You

1:05:03

know what, I don't know if I'm watching that, but you know what, I am

1:05:05

always checking out the latest edition

1:05:08

of Walking with Giants.

1:05:09

I don't know if you guys.

1:05:10

This is, of course the great Christopher Walking,

1:05:12

Oscar Award winning actor,

1:05:15

I believe, native New Yorker and obviously

1:05:18

a huge fan of the New York Giants.

1:05:19

So he started his own podcast.

1:05:21

And one thing we haven't really touched on is Tommy

1:05:25

DeVito, quarterback of the Giants,

1:05:27

became a cult hero at the end of last

1:05:29

season.

1:05:29

Tommy cutlets and all that.

1:05:31

All of a sudden, it's like, we don't really hear about Tommy

1:05:34

so much anymore, even though they didn't draft the quarterback,

1:05:36

so hopefully he is a He was just at the.

1:05:37

Draft with me. We did a pizza contest.

1:05:40

There we go.

1:05:40

So he's still in the mix and Italian

1:05:42

American ways.

1:05:45

But what's his NFL future? He said.

1:05:47

Apparently there's an article he had as a chip on his shoulder,

1:05:49

and I had to hear what Chris Walkin had to say about

1:05:51

it.

1:05:51

Here's Oh, here's an excerpt from that.

1:05:55

It's time once again for

1:05:57

Walking with Giants with

1:06:00

me your host, Chris Walkin.

1:06:03

Change has come to

1:06:06

my beloved football team, the New York

1:06:08

Giants, Big Blue,

1:06:11

the g Men. We

1:06:14

all go through it change.

1:06:17

My neighbor is now a woman, or

1:06:21

in the polance of the times,

1:06:23

she was always a woman. She's

1:06:26

now just living her truth. Hold

1:06:28

for a fact, now

1:06:30

that you've done a plotting, let's

1:06:33

talk about someone going through change.

1:06:36

On the Giants.

1:06:38

Homegrown talent Jersey

1:06:41

Boy done good.

1:06:43

The entire nation got behind

1:06:46

his Italian mannerisms and Guido

1:06:49

good looks. Tommy DeVito, he

1:06:52

feels slighted, cast

1:06:54

aside. He feels

1:06:57

as if he's yesterday's news

1:06:59

and he has something to say.

1:07:02

He's not going away the

1:07:04

same way we

1:07:07

all do one day.

1:07:09

Enough for the rhyming.

1:07:13

Well, I got news for you, Tommy.

1:07:16

It's going to be hard.

1:07:18

It's going to be had.

1:07:20

The best quarterback who's ever

1:07:22

lived, man.

1:07:26

Myth, the legend,

1:07:31

Eli Manning, Mike drop

1:07:34

walking off.

1:07:37

He is a huge eife and we've heard that man.

1:07:39

Yeah, that's like that was the

1:07:41

full episode and like the you know, the ability

1:07:43

to take the football analysis and link it to

1:07:45

our own lives.

1:07:48

I mean, thank you for Chris,

1:07:51

who is from a story at Queens by

1:07:53

the Way, so a New York native

1:07:55

to the book.

1:07:56

Hopefully he can fall in love with Drew

1:07:58

Locke. That's what I hope for Christopher

1:08:01

Walker.

1:08:01

Good call, good call the letter R with Colleen.

1:08:04

Wolf okay R for

1:08:07

recop Wow, recuperation. We're

1:08:10

recouping, and so is

1:08:12

Anthony Richardson. Thegotten rookie

1:08:16

had four starts last year and

1:08:19

now we're all just sort of waiting

1:08:21

for him to come back with that throwing shoulder.

1:08:24

He's playing for the right coach and Shane Steichen,

1:08:26

but everything we heard was that and saw

1:08:29

was he's an athletic freak. And it was so exciting

1:08:32

when he came out and he was able to back it

1:08:34

up. And then we only got a month of

1:08:36

football from him. So now he has

1:08:38

ad Ni Mitchell there that they added in the draft,

1:08:41

obviously Michael Pittman Junior who the Colts

1:08:43

locked in as well, and they drafted

1:08:46

two offensive linemen early that also.

1:08:48

Help with him up front.

1:08:49

So I feel like the fact that he looks

1:08:51

like he's all the way back from surgery right now,

1:08:54

he's going to be a huge storyline. The Colts are going

1:08:56

to be a huge storyline. And is it going to happen to me again?

1:08:58

Am I going to be like front and center

1:09:00

on the Colts?

1:09:01

You? I know?

1:09:03

But this is kind of like we're watching

1:09:05

all of the recuperations for guys like Joe

1:09:07

Burrow as well, but Anthony

1:09:09

Richardson and Joe Burrow at the top of the list.

1:09:12

I like the division they play in, Connie, I think

1:09:14

it sets up well for them to make

1:09:17

a run here potentially, and

1:09:19

so much of it as Ken Richardson stay healthy

1:09:21

and grow as a player. But

1:09:24

I think they're a fun team to get behind. Again,

1:09:26

I don't think you're in the wrong here. I think it's funny.

1:09:28

So I was quite high on the I did the projected

1:09:30

Starters series for the AFC last

1:09:32

week, and I looked at that roster

1:09:35

as like, Chris Ballard's done it again.

1:09:36

I like him.

1:09:37

I kind of liked them as a sneaky division winner,

1:09:40

and I went, we watched this

1:09:42

college tape and stuff during the draft season.

1:09:44

It's like, whenever I'm watching that, I know I'm not a real

1:09:46

draft knick, because all I'm thinking is like, wouldn't

1:09:49

it be nice to just watch them professional football

1:09:51

where they're better? Oh dang, So

1:09:53

I watched some Anthony. I went to some Anthony Richardson

1:09:55

because he really only played two games that he'd survived.

1:09:58

It was so short and it's

1:10:00

electric. It's also a little more inconsistent.

1:10:02

I think then people realize, like his accuracy

1:10:04

issues definitely showed up. But I think he made good decisions

1:10:06

and it's just the good throws and the good

1:10:08

runs that he made were just so good that you want to see

1:10:10

more.

1:10:11

And the year that you jumped on.

1:10:12

They're not bandwagon, but just generally

1:10:15

their operation, like running back goes

1:10:17

down, the offensive lineup like just crumbled,

1:10:19

everything fell every I mean, it was like an apocalypse.

1:10:22

But where they are now two years later, there's a lot

1:10:24

to believe in, and I think a lot of it

1:10:26

is like Anthony Richardson's at the center of it, but the

1:10:29

Ballard's defense and what he's built up and what he believes

1:10:31

in. It's like it's been a slow process. But like

1:10:34

I believe in their defense. I did last year, and I

1:10:36

think, like, you're gonna need to be able to get to the quarterback

1:10:38

in this division and there aren't.

1:10:40

The Cults to me also have a really

1:10:42

interesting coaching staff. I think it begins right

1:10:44

there.

1:10:45

Yeah, I was just two years early on it, so

1:10:47

I'm I never left frame it

1:10:49

that way.

1:10:50

I think what they lacked last

1:10:52

year was like a big time difference maker.

1:10:54

Yeah, in their offense. Now they potentially have it.

1:10:57

They don't want to put too much on the shoulders of the kid,

1:10:59

but hey, they brought him in to be the franchise

1:11:02

and let's see if he is.

1:11:03

He might leave the league.

1:11:03

Maybe Kayleb Williams will in the the

1:11:06

OTA videos that are just oh,

1:11:08

that's awesome, like the Cold Showed one where he throws at

1:11:10

eighty five yards or something.

1:11:11

Bonkers. I thought I was he's great for that.

1:11:13

I thought I was stealing my Fantasy league last

1:11:15

year when I took Richardson high. Not

1:11:17

high, but it was like, this is gonna be my QB two. That shocks

1:11:20

the word. But I would do it again this

1:11:22

year. I think we're rolling the

1:11:24

dice on all right. Next

1:11:27

it's me with we got one more break to take. Actually,

1:11:29

it's take one more break and then we'll close this out. Alright,

1:11:35

We're back, Greggie, Take us,

1:11:37

baby, take us where we need to go.

1:11:39

The letter S is for super

1:11:41

Chargers, which will make

1:11:43

more sense when we play the

1:11:46

following clip from the

1:11:48

twenty fifteen season.

1:11:51

Hmm, Sandiego

1:11:57

super Chargers,

1:12:00

San Diego Super.

1:12:06

I gotta remember that.

1:12:12

That just felt it was important, I mean sorry,

1:12:14

attached to an earphone with that

1:12:16

is a rugged way.

1:12:17

To go out?

1:12:18

What attribute by you?

1:12:21

Yeah, Wes and this show twice, Greggie, good

1:12:23

work.

1:12:24

Jag may or may not have just heard that well looking up

1:12:26

for the other clip and thought that would be fun

1:12:28

to just play on the show.

1:12:30

Oh the San Diego.

1:12:31

Charge

1:12:35

Look, I just did that with myself for you Mark,

1:12:38

Now.

1:12:39

For you Mark.

1:12:39

The context for that was we thought it was the

1:12:42

Chargers last game in San Diego. It actually wasn't

1:12:45

remember that. We thought it was they were gone and then they ended

1:12:47

up putting, so that was one more year.

1:12:49

But that that was why you sang the safety laying on

1:12:51

the field after the game? Was it that game? Yes,

1:12:55

that was twenty fifteen. That's right. Let's

1:12:57

see if the falsetto still holds all these years

1:12:59

later.

1:13:00

Super charm juice,

1:13:04

you've got it, super chim.

1:13:09

Well, I was younger, it was only thirty five then, Yeah,

1:13:11

you can't hold the notes forever.

1:13:13

Great job by Big Funk just having

1:13:15

that, like ready that the cut

1:13:17

up version.

1:13:19

Hey, let's give it up for Big Funk. Who's listen,

1:13:22

let's hear you. Let's hear your music.

1:13:23

Funk.

1:13:24

Yeah, it's quiet around

1:13:26

here right now, and there's not a lot of staff to

1:13:29

say the least.

1:13:30

And uh, this is my favorite

1:13:32

theme song is big Funks and.

1:13:34

Yet one

1:13:37

man could do it all big

1:13:40

funk on

1:13:43

the walls and two having

1:13:47

that baby maybe

1:13:50

funk wheel two you

1:13:56

got an so right now funk.

1:13:58

Yeah, I've been dating for seven whoa

1:14:02

yeah, crazy right seven?

1:14:04

Legally married. I believe partner.

1:14:06

We all domestic partners. I

1:14:08

think they just took away that law the

1:14:12

grandfathered in though. Yeah, clock sticking,

1:14:14

she's expacting.

1:14:18

It doesn't help that Eric's my neighbor too. I was

1:14:20

gonna say a double date. Yeah,

1:14:22

we had a few times.

1:14:23

Because Eric got engaged, married

1:14:26

and now child.

1:14:29

Yeah, it's crazy

1:14:31

it all happened at once because

1:14:34

funk feeling I hate.

1:14:36

Well, we can't assume that his significant

1:14:38

other wants a baby. We can a

1:14:40

lot, Yeah, kind of.

1:14:41

We're kind of the same mind where it's like we want to

1:14:43

be able to afford one before we have one or open

1:14:46

that discussion. But it doesn't help that Eric's

1:14:48

wife will be walking around and like lately

1:14:50

the conversation has been like, oh sheoks

1:14:52

so pretty she's so beautiful.

1:14:54

You know that's a sign.

1:14:55

And I'm like, you know, I'm watching TV. I'm like, oh,

1:14:58

that's crazy.

1:15:00

Seven years is two

1:15:03

thousand, five hundred and fifty five

1:15:05

days.

1:15:07

Give Lee just Google.

1:15:12

All right, good job

1:15:14

though, funk behind the glass. Thanks,

1:15:18

thank you.

1:15:19

That was his girlfriend pulling him out of the studio to

1:15:21

go down to the city courthouse.

1:15:23

All right, let's see where else? What do we got left?

1:15:25

Where are we?

1:15:26

Mark t T

1:15:29

tea.

1:15:29

Is for too many, too many long reads by matter.

1:15:32

Here's a quick one. I know, well, we we

1:15:34

learned the lesson, but we unlearned it.

1:15:36

It's streamlined this.

1:15:36

I think we've done a good job. It is moving.

1:15:39

I do have a quick one for you, though. I have four playoff

1:15:41

teams not returning. In my little world

1:15:44

of worlds. I looked at the standings from last year,

1:15:46

Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Miami,

1:15:49

and the Rams. If I'm wrong, replace

1:15:52

one of the teams with someone else, because my sports

1:15:54

lock of the week is that four new playoff

1:15:56

teams will emerge, as they have every

1:15:59

year since Hillary Clinton first discovered

1:16:01

the magic of a pants suit. Go okay,

1:16:04

Pittsburgh Miami, Who Pittsburgh,

1:16:06

Cleveland, Miami. The Rams, Okay,

1:16:10

I think the Rams stay in so

1:16:13

well, first of all, it's funny.

1:16:15

Gets behind Rams news at eleven's's.

1:16:17

Funny that you're taking the Browns out when you've been

1:16:19

unhappy that they're not getting enough pop this

1:16:21

offseason.

1:16:22

As a I was, I was suggesting that they

1:16:24

aren't not unhappy, but they aren't. And

1:16:27

I think there's a regression elements

1:16:29

there. But I'll take out the Bucks just

1:16:31

for the Rams.

1:16:32

Therey Bucks. Well,

1:16:34

that's sensible. Rams. I

1:16:36

felt was a little edgy, but like, I think you got it

1:16:39

right. Yeah, really, Job, you're right?

1:16:41

Are we just moving this segment along? Well,

1:16:43

I.

1:16:46

Don't think Pittsburgh is crazy, Altho, I think they've

1:16:48

got better. Cleveland's not crazy.

1:16:49

Rams.

1:16:50

Okay, I got another one. I'm taking out the Cowboys

1:16:52

and putting in the Packers. Whoa

1:16:55

the Packers were in the playoffs?

1:16:56

All right, you want to go, I'll see are crazy

1:16:58

and razy. I'm taking out the Texans and putting

1:17:00

in the Cults.

1:17:02

Im the idiot that was I'll

1:17:04

take out I'll put in someone else. I don't know who I'm putting

1:17:06

in, but I'm taking other Cowboys.

1:17:08

Well, you gotta put it you're gonna put in the Raiders, they're

1:17:10

gonna I might, I haven't

1:17:12

gone.

1:17:12

I haven't done that part making these

1:17:15

predictions because we're just gonna foo.

1:17:17

Sorry Mark, Ye, it's been deemed too early,

1:17:19

but put the Packers

1:17:21

into the playoffs.

1:17:22

But yeah, because like where they could

1:17:24

have won the super Bowl last year?

1:17:25

That was all right, good

1:17:28

one, Mark, good luck to you.

1:17:29

Well no, because I know you don't want to be right on that,

1:17:31

but maybe you will be.

1:17:32

We shall see you unfair.

1:17:36

That's what it stands for.

1:17:37

Hey, this new schedule, you

1:17:40

know, we have moved, We've not

1:17:42

so quietly started to shift away from a

1:17:44

traditional Sunday

1:17:46

schedule, uh to more.

1:17:48

This is like the NFL's primetime era. And

1:17:50

and the.

1:17:51

More streamers that have that are involved,

1:17:53

the more mouths there are to feed, the more

1:17:56

days of the week that are being used. That

1:17:59

it's it's creating schedule

1:18:01

havoc that we've never seen before because

1:18:03

the schedule makers. And maybe that helps us to

1:18:05

explain why the schedule, based

1:18:08

on what we heard with some reports, ended up being delayed

1:18:10

a week because they're like, how do we make this all

1:18:12

work anyway? Warren't sharp

1:18:14

of short football Puts had this little

1:18:16

data point since nineteen ninety four total

1:18:19

a total nineteen ninety four.

1:18:21

How long ago was that thirty years ago?

1:18:23

A total of three teams over thirty one

1:18:25

years played at least seven games where

1:18:28

their opponent had over one week

1:18:30

to prepare three and thirty one years.

1:18:32

This year alone, there are two teams who play

1:18:35

seven games versus opponents who have over

1:18:37

one week to prepare. Two teams with

1:18:39

seven plus games. The Patriots

1:18:41

are on the other side, greg they play zero.

1:18:44

The Chargers. Here we go six games versus

1:18:46

teams with extra rest and prep for

1:18:48

them, zero games versus teams

1:18:50

with short prep. The Patriots zero

1:18:53

games versus teams with extra rest and prep

1:18:55

for them. Three games versus teams with short

1:18:57

prep. So my

1:18:59

point being, I get it. Listen, the

1:19:01

NFL is here, They're making money, and

1:19:03

everyone loves the primetime games, but it

1:19:06

feels like it's adding in

1:19:08

in terms of look

1:19:10

at my Jets for it, and they have six primetime games

1:19:13

in eleven weeks to start the season,

1:19:15

and they're flying all over the place to do this.

1:19:18

It is a major challenge for

1:19:20

the schedule makers and your boy Mike North

1:19:23

to try to figure out how to make this fair because it's

1:19:26

quite simply not as simple as it used to be the

1:19:28

way the schedule is laid out.

1:19:30

I like I think number one, there's

1:19:33

they're already were costs to all this because like it's

1:19:35

just a it just inched up by derivations,

1:19:38

more so this season. But like players,

1:19:40

I listen to what the players say about it, and it's

1:19:42

it's their the health. It's like the rest is not

1:19:44

just like someone's going to get there and like strategize

1:19:47

their way to a win. It's like the players of an extra

1:19:49

two or three days to rest. I think that matters so

1:19:52

much towards the end of the season.

1:19:54

And yet it's like asking like a seven

1:19:56

thirty seven to suddenly stop in mid air

1:19:58

and turn around and go the other way.

1:19:59

Like it's not changing.

1:20:00

It's just not going to change because at least

1:20:03

not anytime soon, because it's the money.

1:20:05

It's like, oh, no matter, we can put

1:20:07

a schedule release out on the same day as

1:20:09

the NBA playoffs and blow them.

1:20:11

Out of the water.

1:20:12

So it's like why stop, And like I don't think

1:20:15

there is a lack of care for certain like people

1:20:17

involved, namely the players and

1:20:19

coaches.

1:20:19

In their lives.

1:20:20

But there's also no way that they're going to be able to

1:20:22

make this completely fair for every single

1:20:24

team with all of the different iterations, like

1:20:27

they try.

1:20:28

They have to give up something to get something

1:20:30

right. Yeah, but to give up some

1:20:32

of this the competitive balance. Quite

1:20:35

frankly, you're getting millions upon millions

1:20:37

of dollars in primetime victories.

1:20:39

It kind of it reminded me as

1:20:42

you were discussing it. It's a good point to

1:20:44

raise of the NBA because

1:20:46

in the NBA, there's so many what they call schedule

1:20:48

losses where one team's on

1:20:51

the fourth on a back to back, on the

1:20:53

road, third night in four games, and the other

1:20:55

one's been resting for like three

1:20:57

days and just waiting for it. And like, being

1:21:00

an NBA fan, you almost have to have this context

1:21:03

of like where your schedule

1:21:05

is and where the other one is, and like, oh, that's a fine

1:21:07

lot. Like some losses aren't real

1:21:09

losses because it's just like you were in such a tough

1:21:11

spot you can't overcome it. You know, you

1:21:14

hope that that all evens out over the course of an NBA

1:21:16

season. In this case, there's so few games.

1:21:18

I don't know if it evens out. We need a little more research

1:21:20

on like how much does this affect

1:21:22

these teams and on the records versus

1:21:25

the rest.

1:21:25

Yeah, the NBA also they and it's an issue

1:21:27

because fans paid top dollars to go to the games and

1:21:30

then Lebron's.

1:21:30

Not playing it's a rest day.

1:21:32

And it's like you could do that because it's

1:21:34

a you know, eighty two game season

1:21:36

or whatever in the NFL, like every game, even

1:21:38

now that we're at seventeen, it's so precious

1:21:41

these games.

1:21:42

So it is it's something, all right, v

1:21:45

Connie, Okay, football is completely different

1:21:47

than basketball.

1:21:48

Good that's a nice final point to put

1:21:50

on it, Mark, good work, Colleen.

1:21:52

All Right, so you

1:21:55

grabbed my Kyle Pitts one earlier,

1:21:58

so I had to pivot off of volu and

1:22:00

we're going with vicissitudes

1:22:03

instead, and the

1:22:06

many vicissitudes.

1:22:07

That former Jets quarterbacks have made.

1:22:09

And in this exercise, it will

1:22:11

be watching two in particular, so

1:22:13

a competition in Minnesota between Sam

1:22:16

Darnold and JJ McCarthy

1:22:19

and then the competition between Jared's Didham

1:22:21

and Zach Wilson and Bo Nix

1:22:24

in Denver. Now that one isn't exactly a

1:22:26

heated one. But still, these

1:22:28

quarterbacks have been through a lot

1:22:30

on their journey, not always the best

1:22:32

situations, but they've dealt

1:22:35

with some adversity, and now we'll

1:22:37

see if they're able to weather the storm

1:22:39

and come out on top.

1:22:40

The cistitude a change of circumstances

1:22:43

or fortune, typically one that is unwelcome

1:22:45

or you.

1:22:46

Just rewrote that during the show.

1:22:47

Yeah,

1:22:50

I mean in the very impressive

1:22:53

the changing topic sort of has you

1:22:55

know a good example of a vicissitude

1:22:58

of my topic here, I believe

1:23:00

because it's sort of related.

1:23:01

I I do have a vital for w Yeah for w.

1:23:05

Yeah, my w is wanton,

1:23:08

which is a It's a versatile

1:23:11

word. It can mean a lot of things. I'm not talking about the soup,

1:23:13

right, you know, the dumpling. It

1:23:15

can mean like with wanton

1:23:18

disregard like you're just totally wanton.

1:23:21

Yeah, like like it deliberate.

1:23:23

It's say it either way. You

1:23:26

were saying vicissitude is all crazy too.

1:23:28

We were just we're blowing it.

1:23:31

We're blowing it.

1:23:33

I thought you saidudes, I think

1:23:35

just vicissitudes.

1:23:36

Yeah, there's no tea in the middle.

1:23:37

There is there is a t wanton.

1:23:41

Yeah, but one of the one of the definitions

1:23:43

though on Yeah, that was ahead. One

1:23:46

of the definitions is kind of is lustful

1:23:48

that you know, you have that wanton

1:23:51

like desire, libidd inness,

1:23:53

wanton desire, lavicious. You

1:23:56

know, there's a lot of words like

1:23:58

that. And that's how the Vikings fan base is going to

1:24:00

be about JJ McCarthy by the time we get to meet

1:24:02

week one, much less by the time he plays I found.

1:24:04

A sentenced Greg to help you. Her peeks burned

1:24:06

as she recalled how forward she had been.

1:24:08

How wanton. Yeah, do you understand

1:24:11

the context now, Dan? Oh? Absolutely,

1:24:13

Well I know the word okay, And.

1:24:17

So when you're ordering like a

1:24:19

medium wanton.

1:24:22

That was a bad job.

1:24:23

You have a medium wanton soup. That's

1:24:25

what I do. See, I have it wrung the other way.

1:24:28

I was thinking about a fortune cookie this whole time.

1:24:30

I was just totally different too.

1:24:32

I blew it.

1:24:33

These Vikings fans they're gonna they're just gonna

1:24:35

be hot for this kid.

1:24:36

Uh.

1:24:37

If you think about quarterback history with the Vikings,

1:24:40

haven't had a ton of homegrown guys. They had cull Pepper

1:24:43

for a minute, it was hot. They

1:24:45

had Teddy. They were very excited about Teddy.

1:24:47

But other than that, since like nineteen seventy

1:24:50

seven, Tommy Kramer was

1:24:52

the only first round pick I could find it, he was like a late

1:24:54

pick that had to wait two years. They've all

1:24:56

be always been cycling through these older guys

1:24:59

like Culpepper

1:25:01

wasn't old, but like for rat at one point in his career

1:25:03

of Farv Post Packers, Cousins,

1:25:06

Post Washington, Keenum, Bradford,

1:25:08

it's like, now we got our own guy.

1:25:09

They're gonna be They're just gonna be feeling. I agree.

1:25:12

That's why I was. I was bummed

1:25:14

out. They're gonna be ordered some.

1:25:15

One JJ playing. I

1:25:17

think he's gonna play Week one most

1:25:20

likely.

1:25:20

I would think, well, yeah, I mean it just

1:25:22

makes it. It's really more on Sam Darnold to completely

1:25:25

if he could.

1:25:26

Do anything unless JJ really

1:25:29

like bottoms out in training camp.

1:25:31

It's a great situation though.

1:25:32

Yeah, that could help Bradford to that way

1:25:34

that maybe he looks so good in camped up they're like, all right,

1:25:36

let's let's see if his ceiling right now

1:25:38

because he has the experience, feels a little higher.

1:25:40

Maybe we'll start out with him, but we'll see.

1:25:42

All right, very good We are coming

1:25:45

near the end of the line.

1:25:47

Right now, up next, Mark toughy x

1:25:51

X is for your ex lover from

1:25:53

eleventh grade. Well, that's ex, I

1:25:55

know, but it's the X in ex. Got

1:25:58

it? And Randy, you're gonna to figure

1:26:00

that out. A little bit of a cheat.

1:26:02

We're just going to move forward, and I am willing to acknowledge

1:26:04

I did well.

1:26:07

Little did she or he, depending your

1:26:09

choice, Little did this person know that you adored

1:26:12

the National Football League? You quietly

1:26:15

huddled away on a desktop computer in your room,

1:26:17

creating statistical reports long before

1:26:19

a pack of nerdlings cooked up EPA

1:26:21

and various dense nonsense to describe beauty.

1:26:24

Of course, this was a bad move. You should have

1:26:26

hitched like to the fields beyond the community center

1:26:28

where said love interest was drinking out

1:26:30

of a solo cup with Matt Troy and fill

1:26:33

in the blank while you watch Clash of the Titans

1:26:35

on VHS. As you become more

1:26:37

concrete in your desire to track the prowess

1:26:39

of Warren Moon, she becomes more unhinged

1:26:41

and lost to the wind. You call her up and

1:26:43

her dad answers, and it's like you're on the phone with Mause

1:26:46

tongue do you think today she or

1:26:48

he depending on who you are understands

1:26:51

And we're cycling back that Bryce

1:26:54

Young will unanimously when comeback

1:26:56

player of the Year, while Dave Canalis nabs

1:26:58

Coach of the Year for a Panthers team

1:27:01

that carves out nine wins.

1:27:02

Tepper be tingling.

1:27:06

Great end and.

1:27:06

We've already discussed the topic, so we don't

1:27:09

necessarily need to.

1:27:10

One topic that we that Dan and I especially

1:27:13

like to hit on repeatedly is

1:27:15

Mark's strategy with these crazy predictions. This

1:27:17

is even for him, is in

1:27:20

this show where it's not really about

1:27:22

predictions, for him to sort of

1:27:25

drop in five predictions that no one

1:27:27

will ever remember in less one

1:27:29

of them hits, and then he'll bring it up.

1:27:32

So that's like what you've done thousand

1:27:34

times. You've gained that.

1:27:36

I respect it.

1:27:38

Well, good luck to you on that one. Yeah,

1:27:41

that you're spamming like.

1:27:42

I am, because by

1:27:44

by August these will not be your predictions.

1:27:47

No, he'll go the other way. Well, life changes.

1:27:49

But if Bryce were kidnapped, but if

1:27:51

they're seven and four in November,

1:27:54

there's.

1:27:54

A lot of narrative.

1:27:55

There's a lot of narratives behind that if, but but

1:27:57

if in that case, and to be clear,

1:28:00

you're talking about the nineteen eighty one version

1:28:02

of Class of the Titans, not the twenty ten

1:28:05

no VHS, neither.

1:28:06

Of which old school.

1:28:07

It's like the first thing that I saw on VHS

1:28:10

back in the day when.

1:28:11

I was in middle school. I lost to a girl in wrestling.

1:28:14

Ew.

1:28:15

I was just trying to think the whole time who my boyfriend

1:28:17

was in eleventh grade?

1:28:18

Can anyone remember boyfriend?

1:28:21

Of course you remember who I did eleventh year,

1:28:26

June your year, you can't remember.

1:28:30

I don't really remember my childhood.

1:28:31

Wow, toughy. You got have to talk to Andrea

1:28:34

about it that.

1:28:34

I feel like I'm really high.

1:28:36

On live All right, let's

1:28:39

go to letter Why uh.

1:28:45

That you?

1:28:47

It is? It is? Oh? Why

1:28:49

for?

1:28:50

This is from the movie John Wick or maybe

1:28:52

the sequel Why is For? You

1:28:54

leave me no choice but to declare

1:28:57

you ex communicado. Yeah,

1:29:03

yeah,

1:29:06

we can't have Harrison Bucker in the Kicker Club anywhere

1:29:08

we got. He's gotta go, he's

1:29:12

gotta go. We're gonna We're

1:29:14

gonna slide him out of the club.

1:29:16

That's all. He's excommunicado.

1:29:18

I don't think anyone's fighting you on that.

1:29:20

Well, you'd be surprised. But we're gonna

1:29:23

move him out. He's gonna have to do a penance. He's

1:29:25

on the outside of the velvet ropes moving forward.

1:29:29

It's a great honor and it's

1:29:31

a privilege, and it's up to you.

1:29:34

More than anyone who gets in and row.

1:29:36

You're the bouncer, right, And it brings

1:29:38

me a note because he's in a tremendous kicker, but

1:29:42

get him out. It makes me think of the old Peyton Manning

1:29:45

SoundBite from the Pro Bowl those years.

1:29:47

Ago about Mike vander Jack. The old

1:29:49

Mike vander Jack line reminds

1:29:52

me of that one key

1:29:54

going.

1:29:56

Which takes us to letter.

1:30:01

Z z z is

1:30:04

it out Connie z is

1:30:06

for zeal As In how

1:30:08

Brock Party is approaching this off

1:30:10

season. He finally has

1:30:13

a full off season as the

1:30:15

starter. His rookie season,

1:30:17

it was Trey Lance that was there. He

1:30:20

was just learning the playbook when

1:30:22

OTAs began in year two, he

1:30:24

was still recovering from the UCL And

1:30:27

now here they are fresh off

1:30:29

of a Super Bowl loss but Super Bowl appearance,

1:30:32

and now he gets the full off

1:30:34

season healthy to

1:30:36

get everything in line.

1:30:37

For this year, and they did not trade

1:30:40

Brandon Ayute, they did not move on from Deebo

1:30:42

Samuel Like he also brock Party

1:30:45

has bulked up. I think it's like for a lot of these

1:30:47

quarterbacks, like you need a couple off seasons to figure

1:30:49

out exactly. And he already was kind of thick like in general,

1:30:51

but like he is bulked up. And like I like

1:30:53

any quarterback three years running in

1:30:56

Shanahan's offense.

1:30:57

And I do like if he's gonna be my

1:30:59

avatar, you know, as an NFL quarterback,

1:31:02

that he's bulking up. That were not just these

1:31:05

little little children.

1:31:06

Bulking season.

1:31:09

Is not a trope that quarterback

1:31:11

x beefs up for biggest

1:31:14

year ever.

1:31:15

I mean, unless you unless're Lamar Jackson.

1:31:17

I mean yeah, Like I think the losing it

1:31:19

was a trope for him though two years ago it just didn't

1:31:21

worry out. Yeah, he just decided to

1:31:24

bring it back. He's

1:31:27

also coming off you know, probably his

1:31:29

worst three game stretch of the season happened to be the playoffs.

1:31:31

I think he played well enough in the Conference championship

1:31:34

and title game, but he I

1:31:36

mean in the Conference championship in the Super Bowl.

1:31:39

But I think he wants to play at a higher level than

1:31:41

he did.

1:31:42

And if this is, if this is who he is,

1:31:44

which is good, that wouldn't

1:31:46

be surprising either. I mean he is he

1:31:49

was a you know, mister

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irrelevant for a reason. It's not like we should

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expect him to now keep developing into.

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The next Tom Brady.

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Like maybe this just is Rock Party who's

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a good quoest quarterback, and especially

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when he's in the system, but he's not going

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to be the guy that's special. And

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is that enough for these Niners to finally get

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over the hump?

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I have some optimism that he

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can continue to improve because I think if he was

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drafted in the second round or the first round and

1:32:16

like Tuahead put up the two seasons that he just put

1:32:18

up, like we would look at a guy entering his third

1:32:20

year who improved a lot from year one to year two, which

1:32:22

is easy to forget, like he was a lot better last year overall,

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and that he can continues keeping it going

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and he's in the best situation maybe in the entire NFL.

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I was like, if he hit the ground like

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running the way he did, like I think

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it can improve because like to do that that quickly

1:32:36

like tells me that, like, we don't know what else

1:32:38

he can do, right. I think it's only because of the draft

1:32:41

stock in a situation that we're kind of like

1:32:44

punching holes, are looking for something that might

1:32:46

be fool's gold, and it's like we

1:32:48

are in fairness.

1:32:49

It's also play which there have

1:32:51

been you know, it hasn't

1:32:53

always been incredible. There have been

1:32:55

moments where it's like, Okay, is

1:32:58

this the guy? Is this truly the

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guy they hope he can be. I

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don't think he's been flawless. I don't think he was flawless

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wawless.

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But it's also like I could point to like

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ten first round picks that have had streets.

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No, he's already a hit. I mean he's a huge hit for them

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regardless. I don't know.

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I'm not even arguing anything other than this

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idea that he has to continue to get

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better and better, that maybe he is like

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Jared Goff level good, and if

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he is is not enough, It's.

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Funny how different we would look at him if, like they