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My mother believed and my father believed that if
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I wanted the President of the United States, I
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could be, I could be Vice President. Former
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Vice President Joe Biden has been
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elected President of the United States.
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It is my greatest honor and
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privilege to have been your President. We will
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be back in some form. We are still
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deeply divided. Public health experts warned this was
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coming unless more was done and here we
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are now. Are you proud of what happened
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here today? Absolutely. Never
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before in American history has there
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been an uprising like this. After
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75 million Americans who voted for Donald
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Trump, I don't know how many today
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are feeling, Dear God, what was I
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thinking? But I would wager a lot
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more are thinking that's carry on this
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fight. Character matters. It
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matters. Tell them
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the truth matters. The 21st
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century is going to be
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the American century. Because
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we lead not only by the example
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of our power, but by the power
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of our example. That is
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the history of the journey of America.
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269 days until the US decides who will
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be their next president. And one thing looks
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certain. It won't be Nikki Haley. This week
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in Nevada, she didn't just lose to a
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man currently under investigation for everything but
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jaywalking. She lost to
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the none of these candidates option. It's
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pretty embarrassing. Marion McKeown and Sunday Business
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Posters here as always to help us
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sift through the latest news from America.
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This week, though, Marion, we're also joined by
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a very special guest. It's
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his first time on the podcast. I can't wait
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to hear his contributions. It's
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a rat yesterday at
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3 p.m. Eastern. Tina discovered
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a rat in our office. No,
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she can't believe screamed as loud as she
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could. I wasn't here at the time later.
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And she carefully bolted from the premises
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faster than Mike Johnson after a standalone
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bill had been defeated. She
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only told everybody, son just hold them the race. I can
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tell you if there was a rat behind us. When
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questioned about the incident, she described the rat as being
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as big as a rabbit. Oh,
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my god. She now refuses
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to enter the office, and I am surrounded
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by rat traps, poison, of all kinds. Oh,
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my god. Like a Hanna-Barbera kind of cartoon
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set up here. So if you hear a
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snap or a bang or a squeal at
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some point, that is my rodent co-host. We
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live in this. And
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you're laughing because I am 7,000 miles
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away from you, and I am feeling
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terrified. Just no. Anything
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except a rat. Anything. Yeah, it's
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awesome. I'm looking through ghosts for
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anything but Nikki Haley. Anything
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but a rat. I literally, you
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know, I actually walked into the path of
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a lion when I was in Africa at
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one point, like straight into his path. And
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I was nervous, but I wasn't freaked. I
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came across a rat once in Mayo,
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and I nearly had a stroke. I
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literally nearly had a stroke. I'm not
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kidding. Yeah, it's just so unpredictable. Oh,
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it's like what are we doing when
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we're not here? You know, we're in camels.
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But why are we so calm? What's wrong with you? I
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don't know. I don't know. Maybe I grew up on a
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farm myself, and rats were all over the shop. We
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obviously are in the countryside here in Ireland. You
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know, we've never had a rat in the office. Maybe the
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rat knows something we don't know. You arrived back to
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the worst rain LA has seen in 40. Now,
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Los Angelesians, as we know, deal very
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badly with the rain. So
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they never can tell when they complain about the
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rain. If it's actual rain, this looks pretty scary.
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Yeah, this time there is. Yeah,
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this thing is called an atmospheric
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river. And there's also a complicating
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factor called a Pineapple Express, which is
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also the name of a very popular
3:50
brand of cannabis in California. But anyway,
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between the three of them, including the
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popular brand of cannabis, I suspect most
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people are just staying in at
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the moment. Now, there have
4:01
been the fire brigade, as
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of about four hours ago, they've
4:05
been called out to about 350
4:07
mudslides because, you know, in LA,
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I just came back from from
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GC, by the way, where the
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sky blue and pristine and everything
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was just impeccable. But
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in LA, they so many
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of the little houses are built up into the Hollywood
4:23
Hills. And there are lots
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of it's part of the charm and the
4:27
beauty of LA. And really, it's a very
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beautiful city for people who haven't been here
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and really charming, but you've got all these
4:33
little houses and no two or anything like
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and they're kind of dug into the Hollywood
4:37
Hills and the mountains. And but
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when it rains, when it comes
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down like this, everything just
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slides. So I was
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in Laurel Canyon for quite a while, beautiful
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little house there. But now, like
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my favorite place in LA is the Canyon
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Country Store, where I still go for my
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coffees most mornings. I'm in LA and
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now the whole thing is
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just one big mudslide the whole
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way down. Like houses
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have been lost, the old houses
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and trees have fallen on the roof. There are
5:09
cars just floating by on the street at the
5:11
moment with nobody driving them that I can see.
5:14
So it really has. LA has taken
5:16
a pounding. It's been described as
5:18
a once in a thousand year event.
5:21
Now, most of it is over, I think, as
5:23
of the time we're speaking now, but
5:26
they they are expecting more damage.
5:28
And, you know, there
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was no rain here for I think about four
5:32
years. It was an utter drought. And this year
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so far, there have been, I think, seven or
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eight of these atmospheric rivers, which is the equivalent
5:39
of if you took a giant
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basin of water, basically, and just turned
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it upside down. Wow. Wow.
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It's basically sad. Does it bring
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up questions around global
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warming, climate change? Like,
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as in, does it make that
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a bigger election issue or
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is it still the economy? in
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California like Gavin Newsom has
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been and before him
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Jerry Brown, California has been all over
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climate change. They've led the country in
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as much as the country will put
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on this but they have
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they've been at the forefront of the
6:17
battle against climate change for decades and
6:19
really you know things like bringing in
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sort of regulations. Now,
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AAMC LA is a very car heavy city
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but bringing in regulations in California like to
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clean up the air and it's really worked
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the air quality in LA now is so much
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better than it was 20 years ago.
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It'll be almost now if not on
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a par with Dublin but pretty close.
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It'll be normally in the good category.
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So
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they've really done a lot of stuff but you
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know you cannot have one state
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dealing with climate change in isolation the rest
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of America needs to buy in and it's
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still very very patchy here and of course
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you'll hear no arguments in California
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that this isn't because of climate
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change but it's also quite welcome
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because the drought has been you
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know before this once in a
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thousand year event in California was
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in the worst drought for 1200
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years. I'm not quite sure how they measure these
7:15
things. It rings and freeze I
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assume but so that drought has
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been broken now and I think
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everything's very grateful for it but
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as well when this part
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of the world you know around LA gets
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some rain it just becomes
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glorious because the wildflowers and the
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mountains and the foliage and everything
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just takes off and it really becomes
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very beautiful. So I think most people
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feel it's kind of a small price
7:41
to pay although you wouldn't know
7:43
that to talk to but as I say
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at the moment here there's nobody on the
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streets there's nobody driving everybody is I
7:50
don't know where they are but they're
7:52
not out for sure. They don't do
7:54
bad when they're here. I have a
7:56
few friends over there in LA and
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they always laugh about it. The response
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to rain and power. It's
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not safe to drive and
8:05
years something about their the
8:07
Irish descent own it's it's
8:09
drizzle severe, a versatile and
8:11
it is. Look, I'm kind
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of going around a little
8:15
bit here because. Anything
8:18
to do both. Talk about the absolute
8:20
shit show that's taking place on the
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hill at the moment. Let's first talk
8:24
about Taylor Swift heading to the Super
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Both. But if you believe the right
8:29
wing conspiracy theorist. It's the
8:31
Democratic party who scored a
8:33
touchdown at is what is
8:36
what is this idea that.
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The. Us Defense Department is attempting to
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manipulate the psychology of people so
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that they'll vote for Joe Biden
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send you. break this down for
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us. Oh My. God. Third god,
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where'd he go with his m?
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Okay, let's let's start with the
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most recent development which was in
8:55
the last couple a days a
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spokesperson for the Department of Defense
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as calm as and said we
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are not using Taylor Swift as
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part of a Cyclops. Like aside,
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a psychological operations were not smart.
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Enough and it's a it's a little
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tongue in cheek look At the same
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time they have had to come up
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before say Taylor Swift is not working
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for the Department of Defense. She's not
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one of our people out there. She's
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not doing things for us because at
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moments there's something about the the. M
9:26
My god base that.
9:29
Cannot. Comprehend.
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It makes our head explodes or
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to have. This billionaire phenomenons is
9:36
businesswomen and pop star. An icon
9:38
who rothys our own software takes
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no crust from any. once you
9:42
know who, who is a business
9:44
londoners loves the pop icon and
9:46
a very very good one am
9:48
at who's going in. As with
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the houses seeking Nfl football alleged
9:53
the i will be though it
9:55
was. I'll take who's ever word
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far as is. An and.
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The only thing that can be going on here
10:02
because. And. South. Of
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Kelsey that is as a business. Jeffers.
10:07
Yep, okay toys and for the chase.
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Tags you advocate the Kansas City Chiefs
10:13
about. I've got a nerve signals of
10:15
they are the Superbowl Five A We
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are. All of these things have been
10:19
put together because about the year and
10:22
a half ago. At seat is
10:24
an ad. Encouraging people to get
10:26
covered vaccinations, saying it hopes he's
10:28
a hugely popular guy in the
10:30
Nfl saying a box, get a
10:33
box in a bag said Saturday.
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that immediately turned him into communists
10:37
as hippie Toby This, an infiltrator
10:40
of America. At now Taylor.
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Swift's am has of a while ago
10:44
about a month ago maybe said to
10:46
have heard Swifty guy out there who
10:49
are a number of he says gulf
10:51
of five hundred and fifty million followers
10:53
on his are so there's a lot
10:55
of them had tax and she said
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register to vote shelf next to revoke.
11:00
She didn't say both for Joe Biden.
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she certainly didn't vote for Donald Trump.
11:04
She said register and vote and that
11:07
at demographic would be the eighteen to
11:09
twenty fourth The people that Joe Biden
11:11
tulloch. Allowed for love or money
11:13
was who Donald Trump is guessing
11:15
as morals. Weirdly because he's got
11:17
a lot of these young guys
11:19
and sleeps in. Who are these
11:21
angry new conservatives who are kind
11:23
of almost as a size sexes?
11:25
I think Donald Trump's so anyway
11:28
status if said, get out and
11:30
vote. and apparently. Not.
11:32
Gonna have registered close and apparently
11:34
over the next couple of weeks
11:36
a bands like definitely well over
11:38
a hundred thousand people didn't have
11:40
heard that and fifties didn't register
11:42
to vote. So you put an
11:44
altogether you have am a hard
11:46
boyfriend fiance with every is in
11:48
the Superbowl now season playing of
11:50
the halftime or saying half time
11:52
she's a lesbian be Japan was
11:54
a power to eat she's going
11:56
to be flown bucks and upon.
11:58
by elvis it is She's
12:01
going to the land just in time
12:03
and she and Travis Kelsey are going
12:05
to get engaged or married or something
12:07
at the halftime show. And then
12:09
they're going to go and campaign for Joe Biden and
12:11
they're also going to cast with Stell on the
12:13
whole of America that's watching. Something's
12:15
going to be beaded to every pair of eyeballs
12:18
that will make them go in November and vote
12:20
for Joe Biden. And also
12:22
Travis Kelsey is really a giant research. So
12:24
I did some of the bits
12:27
of the conspiracy theories that I've been picking
12:29
up and I did not make up one
12:31
of them except for, did I make up Elvis? No,
12:33
there was definitely an audience in there somewhere. There
12:36
was, I mean, Elvis is in Japan. It
12:40
is just clickbait, right? It is just some
12:42
conspiracy theorists thinking, well, if I put these,
12:45
line these dots up, people will click and they
12:47
can't have it. Yes, and though
12:49
there is a real rage
12:51
and frustration amongst the MAGA base at
12:54
Taylor Swift. They absolutely hate her. They
12:56
hate her because she's a hugely successful
12:58
woman. As I said, they hate her
13:00
because she doesn't take too much crap
13:03
from anyone. And they just,
13:06
she's everything they despise and she speaks
13:08
out on issues and, you know, she
13:10
says what she thinks, etc., etc. And
13:13
she's kind of the worst nightmare, a
13:15
woman who doesn't just make more than them,
13:17
who makes more than they and their entire
13:19
family and their entire state and their entire,
13:21
whatever making their entire lifetimes. And they just,
13:25
and the fact that she's, because
13:27
the NFL has always been Trump property.
13:29
Do you remember Trump with the taking a knee
13:31
and he went to Astacoll and Kaepernick and he
13:33
really acted like the owner of the NFL. These
13:37
are my boys. The team owners were
13:39
his buddies. And now it's like,
13:41
oh my God, when did the NFL go
13:43
Democrat? And it's all because of this
13:45
Taylor Swift busybody meddling woman and that
13:48
weirdo boyfriend of hers who is really
13:50
a lizard, not a football player. And,
13:52
you know, so it's, they're really, it's
13:55
sort of driving them nuts and they
13:57
can't figure it out. And how did
13:59
this happen? So it has everybody
14:01
and of course the Super Bowl is on Sunday. So
14:03
we'll see. You know there's talk that she'll
14:05
fly home from Japan to be there for her boyfriend which
14:08
I'm sure if you could do you would too. She
14:10
has her own plane, why not? But
14:13
if she doesn't make it, well it's so possible.
14:15
But there's this big thing that she's going to
14:17
turn up and something's going to
14:19
happen and also of course that
14:22
the whole thing was rigged by
14:25
the NFL for
14:27
the campus to get to
14:29
the finals. It was all to sell
14:31
tickets and blah blah blah and promote Taylor Swift's
14:33
career and you know like
14:36
just crazy stuff really. Well
14:38
less crazy is President Biden's
14:40
campaign starting to ridicule Donald
14:42
Trump on his very own
14:45
truth social, the
14:47
social media platform he started.
14:49
On Wednesday Biden Harris HQ posted
14:52
a campaign video alongside the message
14:54
have you seen this new ad?
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At real Donald Trump. Now the
15:00
video I'll have to play it here for
15:02
you because I
15:04
really thought if we're in Super Bowl weekend
15:06
we're talking strategy. The strategy
15:09
seems pretty obvious. Let's take a
15:11
listen. Donald Trump is
15:13
truly confused. Nikki Haley is
15:16
in charge of security. We offered her 10,000 people. They
15:19
don't want to talk about that. He
15:21
didn't just get me confused. He mentioned
15:23
it over and over and over again.
15:25
He's not what he was
15:27
in 2016. He has declined. That's a fact.
15:29
I mean we won last time. We won
15:31
50 states, right? This is not Donald Trump
15:34
of 2016, guys. What? What
15:37
is? If he's off the teleprompter he can
15:39
barely keep a coach in thought. I mean
15:41
that's just fact. We are an institute in
15:44
a powerful death penalty. We will put this
15:46
on. I think he's declining. I stumbled and
15:48
mumbled purposely. I do speak in long, complex
15:51
sentences and have a lot of material in
15:53
each sentence. If you have voter ID
15:55
to buy a loaf of bread, you
15:57
have ID to buy a loaf of bread. Have you
15:59
known? He's a
16:01
little confused these days. The person close to
16:04
Trump actually says that he's rattled by Biden's
16:06
efforts to get under his skin. Marion,
16:10
he has clearly figured
16:12
out that going
16:15
after this guy on the
16:17
basis of the issues may
16:19
not be the wiser strategy. Would
16:22
you agree that this might be the
16:24
beginning of an
16:26
attempt to just rattle the man?
16:28
But if you could just get him rattled, he
16:31
won't be able to throw the football. Well,
16:34
I think that's exactly what it is
16:36
that we have seen
16:38
when Donald Trump loses his cool that
16:40
he just becomes, you
16:42
know, he's not able to function.
16:44
He just becomes this sweating,
16:47
shouting, shaking, giant
16:49
orange wobbly thing. And it's
16:51
not edifying and it's not
16:53
attractive and it's not charismatic
16:55
and it's certainly not presidential.
16:58
And I think that Nancy
17:00
Pelosi was the path master
17:02
at doing this and she
17:04
and Biden are pretty good buddies.
17:06
And I don't know if there
17:08
wasn't a little word in from Nancy because
17:10
do you remember Jarlton? I know
17:13
we spoke about before when Donald Trump got
17:15
COVID, Nancy Pelosi,
17:18
she never lost an opportunity to
17:20
enrage Trump and she would do it.
17:22
She'd stick the shiv in in the
17:24
most subtle way. And you wouldn't even
17:26
know she does at least saw his
17:28
head explode. And I do remember
17:30
one time in Washington when he had COVID and
17:33
she was doing a kind of a press
17:35
gaggle on the hill and we were saying,
17:37
you know, do you know about President Trump
17:39
COVID and she said, oh, yes, and you
17:42
know, I'm so worried about him. I'm really
17:44
praying for him because of course,
17:46
as we all know, he is morbidly obese
17:49
and that makes it so much more dangerous.
17:53
And you knew she was saying
17:55
that. Just like him. Well,
17:57
the guy thinks he looks like Elvis like that. Exactly.
18:02
But this is sad. I
18:04
mean, like it does point
18:06
out, I'm getting your throat now, Mary, it
18:08
does point out a few things that I
18:11
don't think people have lined up properly. Does
18:14
it actually have an impact or a
18:16
power? Do you think it's actually worth
18:18
something outside of pissing
18:21
them off? Do you think it's
18:23
possible that this has an actual, this kind
18:25
of campaigning has an impact? I
18:28
don't know. You know, Biden
18:31
isn't that funny. Now I think that's,
18:33
and okay, I think hitting Trump on being
18:36
confused and all that is, I think
18:39
it's clever, but I
18:41
think you've got to be nimble on your feet as
18:43
well to carry that kind of thing off. You know
18:45
what I mean? I think it's
18:47
no harm for him to troll them at all.
18:49
I'm just a converts welcome and all that. I
18:51
think it is very funny in itself
18:54
and I think it's smart. But
18:56
I don't know that Biden
18:58
doesn't have that sort of, Obama
19:01
was quite good at that. That
19:03
kind of arch, kind of slightly
19:05
taking the mic and chilled
19:08
with it. And as I said, Pelosi had
19:10
that mischievous sense of humor where she knew
19:12
more than anybody had to get under Trump's
19:15
skin. I don't think
19:17
Kamala Harris does. And I think that
19:19
Biden is quite easily
19:21
written to himself. I mean, you know,
19:23
he's not a very accomplished
19:25
performer. So I really don't
19:28
know. I think with Biden, what
19:30
happened today in the House or
19:32
what's happened with the immigration has
19:34
indirectly given Biden the gift that
19:36
he needed weirdly to go after
19:38
Trump. But I think he will
19:40
be going after more of the
19:42
issues because Trump's only issue is
19:44
basically the border and how he
19:46
is being persecuted. And just like
19:48
Jesus Christ are coming after him
19:50
because he wants to save all the MAGA
19:52
people and, you know, et cetera,
19:54
et cetera. So I don't really
19:56
I think I know. And
19:59
I was talking to someone. somebody who is working on
20:01
the Biden campaign and they said that
20:03
they're very concerned that Trump
20:06
this time round has got
20:08
a really good online game apparently and
20:11
he's going to all those far right
20:13
sides where young conservatives hang out in
20:15
young white supremacists, mainly let's call them
20:18
what they are and they're putting ads
20:20
there and they're connect with them there.
20:22
They're going to where these people
20:24
are hanging out anyway and this
20:28
Democrat I spoke to said Biden
20:30
hasn't got a game yet
20:32
for younger voters. They're
20:35
not going to the sites where they might
20:38
be. They're not trying to find them and
20:40
he's still almost doing the old TV ads
20:42
and billboards. Nobody
20:44
looks at or watches. The campaign
20:47
really isn't targeting the demographic groups.
20:49
I know that and David Plouffe and
20:51
Dave Axelrod who were Obama's kind
20:54
of his kids back in 2008
20:57
and who have now become very wealthy individuals
20:59
particularly David Plouffe are saying
21:01
look he's going to have to sharpen his game.
21:03
We're not seeing any sign of
21:05
online game that's in any way effective
21:07
so maybe this true socialist is the
21:10
start of something that they're going to
21:12
maybe push out more and it's always
21:14
good to use humor. It's
21:16
always good. It always helps. I
21:20
know I'm biased and I do believe
21:22
in this more than others but in
21:24
a time when people are switched off and we've
21:27
discussed it so many times the general
21:30
malaise and fatigue, disgruntled, whatever you
21:32
want to call it with the
21:34
establishment and the system it is
21:37
kind of coming around the houses. It is
21:39
sliding the meds in with a spoonful of
21:41
sugar that if it can be done well
21:44
it gets much more traction. A
21:46
funny video you get much more traction than a
21:48
political video. It's time
21:50
to talk about what happened
21:53
when you referenced what
21:55
is actually taking place in terms of this
21:57
bill being defeated. Can you break it down for the next video?
22:00
the uninitiated who is maybe a
22:02
little bit cheesed off with what
22:04
keeps happening. What
22:06
took place this week and the implications
22:08
for the months to come? OK,
22:11
well, what happened was
22:13
last October, Joe
22:17
Biden wanted money for Ukraine.
22:20
He wanted money for Ukraine. And then
22:22
immediately after the October 7th attacks by
22:24
Hamas, and he wanted money for
22:26
Israel. He went to Congress and he
22:28
said, we need to pass a bill. The bill was
22:31
one hundred and four million dollars in total. And
22:35
he said, we need to pass this bill and
22:37
it's for Ukraine and it's for
22:39
Israel and it's for Taiwan. And there's
22:41
also a big humanitarian ten billion or
22:43
so humanitarian aid in there. And we
22:46
have to pass this because this is
22:48
really important because if we don't help Ukraine,
22:50
we're effectively helping people. You know, if we're
22:52
if we're not with Zlensky, we're with Putin.
22:55
And the House saw an opportunity
22:57
to tie by nothing. Not Magic
22:59
Mike or Maga Mike Johnson had
23:01
just taken over and he said,
23:03
no, no, no, no, no. We
23:06
are not doing anything unless it's
23:08
tied to a bill which will
23:10
address the border, the border crisis.
23:12
So Biden went back and
23:14
he went back to Chuck Schumer in the
23:16
who's the Senate leader. And he
23:18
said, basically, what can we do about this?
23:21
Anyway, long story short, what happened was a
23:24
senator, a conservative senator,
23:26
Jim Langford from Oklahoma,
23:28
got together with Kirsten
23:31
Sinema, who's the sort of quasi
23:33
independent for Arizona and also
23:35
Chris Murphy from Connecticut, a Democratic
23:38
senator. And they worked extremely
23:40
hard on a bipartisan border bill.
23:42
Because Mike Johnson said the only
23:44
way we're passing aid to Ukraine
23:46
is if it's tied directly to
23:48
a bill which will address the
23:50
border. So that is exactly what
23:52
they did. The Republicans
23:55
and Democrats together drafted
23:57
a bipartisan bill that
23:59
would. It went
24:02
up to about $118 billion, which
24:04
is included in that $20 billion
24:07
for the border, which included a
24:10
whole range of really effective methods.
24:12
Obviously more technology to watch, to
24:15
monitor who's coming over, but also
24:17
more judges, more manpower,
24:19
more – it would
24:21
basically expedite the whole asylum process,
24:24
more centers. Just streamline
24:26
the whole thing, make it much more
24:29
efficient. It wouldn't be foolproof, but
24:31
it would in a big way address it.
24:33
Coupled with that then, you would have a
24:35
situation which really for the
24:38
Democrats to agree to it was, I
24:40
was kind of surprised that if
24:42
the border crossings reached 5,000 a
24:44
day, Biden could
24:47
arbitrarily then shut down the border or indeed
24:49
any other president who followed Biden and say,
24:51
right, that's enough, hold up there, hold up
24:53
there. And we're not letting any more of
24:56
you in until we've dealt with backlogs. So
24:58
there were a whole number of things that
25:00
were considered very conservative for
25:02
Democrats to sign on to. But
25:04
anyway, they did it. So they went
25:06
back. On Sunday, the
25:09
whole bill was completed. Mitch McConnell, who
25:11
we know is the weasily
25:15
Senate minority leader, he's the Republican
25:17
leader in the Senate, who
25:19
has locked horns with Trump for peace, to
25:21
them to despise each other. Anyway,
25:23
McConnell came out repeatedly and said, we have
25:25
to pass this bill. We've got to get
25:28
A to Ukraine. This is really important. It's
25:30
addressing the border. It's getting A to Ukraine.
25:32
And then somebody obviously thought,
25:34
well, hang on then, what's Trump going
25:36
to run on? And of course, that's somebody who was
25:38
Donald Trump. Because the
25:40
only thing he has to run on is
25:42
the border's a mess. The border's a mess.
25:44
Look what Biden's doing. The border's a mess.
25:48
And we're going to impeach. And I'll get on
25:50
to that in a moment. The Homeland Security Secretary
25:52
Alejandro Mayorkas and oh my God, look at the
25:54
border. So as it
25:56
turned out then, the House Democrats realized
25:58
that it was a mess. if they
26:01
basically couldn't take yes for an answer. So
26:03
the Dem Cup said, okay, you know what's fine, here's
26:05
your border bill, we've given you pretty well everything you
26:07
asked for. Now let's sign it and now
26:09
let's put all this in place and now let's get
26:12
the money to Ukraine. But then Biden
26:14
would be going and see lectures of bipartisan
26:16
victory on the border, the first border legislation
26:18
in 38 years. So
26:20
obviously Trump was not going to have that.
26:23
So Mike Johnson then went and said,
26:26
instead of a rival, even though it was everything,
26:28
Mike Johnson had demanded he wasn't even
26:30
going to bring it to the floor.
26:32
And then bizarrely, three hours after Mitch
26:34
McConnell came out and made a speech
26:36
saying, we've got to pass this bill,
26:38
he came back out and said, this
26:40
bill is jet. So,
26:43
you know, the cynicism, the cowardice
26:45
and the craveness of all these
26:47
Republicans who have been going down
26:49
to the border and having their
26:52
photographs taken down there and look
26:54
at this mess, look at what
26:56
Biden has done, look what he's doing,
26:58
he's letting in terrorists every day. It's
27:00
an emergency. And now apparently it's
27:02
not such an emergency because it can wait until 2025.
27:05
So it's just, but
27:08
I think, you know, I don't know if Biden
27:10
is this clever, I have a theory. Okay,
27:13
so I have a theory that Biden and
27:15
the Democrats knew all along
27:17
that Republicans would never pass
27:19
this. So they were quite safe
27:22
to agree to everything, knowing it
27:24
was never going to be passed. So
27:26
I think that that may be part of the
27:29
damage and then that they could go to the
27:31
electorate and they said kind of a
27:33
double bluff and go, look, you see, we were there,
27:35
we wanted to sign this bill because Biden
27:37
said three separate times, send
27:40
it to my desk and I will
27:42
sign it immediately. He didn't even say
27:44
there were no qualifications, there was no if,
27:46
what's or maybes, there was no if you
27:48
leave that out or you put that in, he
27:50
just said, send me the bill and I will
27:52
sign it. And now he's
27:54
still saying, if he said it again, and but
27:58
it's the Republicans then. who
28:00
are blocking border reform, not
28:02
the Democrats. So they've kind of flipped
28:04
the switch there. Now, I don't know
28:06
if they're going to sell that to
28:09
the electorate, but at the moment, the
28:11
Republicans are looking very, very cynical and
28:13
very ineffective. And once again, the
28:16
Republican Congress, you know,
28:18
they have a slender majority in the House,
28:21
is looking like not just
28:23
a do-nothing Congress, but a
28:25
do-harm Congress, a screw-it-up Congress,
28:28
a Congress that will not let
28:30
things progress, will not work
28:32
for the American people. And Biden, in
28:34
a pretty hard-hitting speech, said over
28:36
and over, I just want
28:38
to work for the American people. I'm
28:41
working for you, but the Republicans are
28:43
working for Donald Trump. That's all they're
28:45
doing. They're just working for Donald Trump,
28:47
and they're scared of Donald Trump, and they
28:49
won't work for you because they're too scared of Donald
28:51
Trump. Now, that's a pretty damning message
28:54
to take out. And if Biden can
28:56
sell that effectively, and if the
28:58
Democrats can say, look, we worked with Donald on
29:00
the bill, we gave them everything they wanted, and
29:02
they walked away, you know,
29:04
then they cannot reasonably keep blaming
29:06
the Democrats if it's the Republicans who
29:09
are refusing to sign a bill
29:11
on the border. So I don't know how
29:13
to... They'll find a way. That's the only
29:15
thing I always think, is they'll figure out
29:17
some sort of version of it. It doesn't
29:19
need to be connected to reality. When
29:22
I was watching Mitch
29:24
McConnell, you
29:26
know, ring his
29:28
hands and say how woe is
29:30
me, all I
29:32
could think was, how is this guy
29:35
still in there? Now, Ted Cruz has
29:37
come out and, you know, called
29:40
the mismanagement of this border security
29:42
in Ukraine funding package another
29:45
reason that Mitch McConnell needs to
29:47
step down. How much
29:50
traction will that get? And how likely
29:52
are we to see this man take
29:54
his retirement? Well, I think
29:56
he will. I think there's no doubt
29:59
he's completely disempowered. there's a behind
30:01
the scenes struggle to become the
30:03
next Senate leader and it's basically
30:05
between Ted Cruz who everyone hates
30:07
and Josh Hawley
30:09
who everyone also hates, albeit not
30:11
as much as Ted Cruz. So
30:14
I think that one of those
30:16
two and probably Josh Hawley are,
30:19
you know, I mean Rick Perry, very
30:21
sort of big level trying to become
30:23
the Republican Senate leader, but certainly Mitch
30:26
McConnell has lost control of the
30:29
Republican Senate. Half
30:32
of them absolutely despise him and they are
30:34
taking their cue from Trump and the half
30:36
who don't despise him are concerned about him.
30:39
They think he's too old. They think he's
30:41
completely ineffective and to see
30:43
him and not only that,
30:45
you know, you can be old and you
30:47
can be frail but you can still have
30:49
moral fiber and to see the way he
30:51
literally stuck that little tortoise head back
30:53
under the shell and and just,
30:56
you know, went back
30:58
on everything he had said and caved
31:00
so easily was just like, you
31:03
know, you don't have
31:05
to agree with a leader if you
31:07
believe that they believe what they're saying,
31:09
you know, and I think that
31:12
Donald Trump, weirdly for his people, has
31:14
that authenticity. They
31:16
believe him. They believe that he believes what
31:18
he's saying and he probably does in the
31:20
moment he says it, but Mitch
31:22
McConnell just seems like the ultimate cynic
31:24
who will just play all the angles,
31:26
see which way the wind is glowing
31:28
and that you cannot trust his word.
31:30
He came out on Sunday and said
31:33
he and Chuck Schumer had never worked
31:35
harder than they worked together
31:37
on this bill. He took ownership of
31:39
this bill and then he literally slithered
31:41
away from it outside
31:44
the Senate chamber today. What a guy.
31:47
It's just honestly and YouTube, everybody up
31:49
there, you know, when I was up
31:51
there was saying, What have they
31:53
gotten him? What Have they gotten him? And
31:56
I Don't even think it is that, although
31:58
who knows, but I Think that. We
32:01
thought way he is a
32:03
man who is absolutely lacking
32:05
in principle and in in.
32:07
Integrity of any form we saw
32:09
when he refused to that Merrick
32:12
Garland nomination for the Supreme court
32:14
don't through it his election year
32:16
and then he ran through Am
32:18
aiming at the Amy with said.
32:21
Goodness of Amy to Amy Cool
32:23
with m Opt out only bears
32:25
flatly me thousand dollars. So. It'll have
32:27
been a he has no. Integrity of he
32:29
has no words and away they
32:32
probably shouldn't be surprised that he
32:34
and went back on his word
32:36
because he is on principles was
32:38
even for him it was pretty
32:40
shameful. I thought wow, sweep an
32:42
awful lot more to get through.
32:45
In the second half of my
32:47
conversation with Marion including Tucker Carlson
32:49
has confirmed an interview with Vladimir
32:51
Pillow Talk me as we Jaffa
32:53
means to talk But is this
32:55
the and for Nikki Haley at
32:57
there's a Ton. Of news thus we've
33:00
got to get to and the only
33:02
way to hear it is over on
33:04
patriarch.com Forward/irishman abroad I will be in
33:06
Leicester at work On the way stop
33:08
gig is hop and by the time
33:10
you hear this all the in Birmingham
33:12
to nice If you want to path
33:14
along there's a couple of back row
33:16
seats in the balcony left for the
33:18
old wrapped theater in Birmingham. Sadly both
33:20
shows into any the early and the
33:22
late show are sold out. The Saturday
33:24
with is a few tickets left for
33:26
brace on the fifteenth if you're still.
33:28
Not got your Valentine's gifts or today's
33:30
There's a couple of tickets left there
33:32
and a couple of tickets left in
33:34
Bristol for the seventeenth at Marion. Thank
33:36
you so much for this and we'll
33:39
see you guys over on Patria. Will.
33:41
Be right back after this commercial
33:43
break. At
33:46
White House senior living on
33:48
less feel slighted. Our
33:51
liberty. And.
33:55
Round. I've
34:01
been eating everything I couldn't find. I've been
34:03
eating all of the Italian food, basically.
34:06
And ice cream. Chocolate chip ice cream. White
34:08
House senior living, where
34:11
residents feel like friends. Ready?
34:18
You have the cameras rolling. A
34:21
lot of people who would probably
34:23
consider themselves liberal have done very
34:26
well financially under the Donald Trump
34:28
four years. You encouraged espionage
34:31
against our people. You
34:34
condemn any interference by
34:36
Russia in the American election.
34:38
By Russia or anybody else?
34:41
Russia, please, if you can,
34:43
get us Hillary Clinton's emails.
34:46
Please, Russia, please. To renew
34:48
America, we must revitalize our
34:50
democracy.
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