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It's the Happy Women Podcast with

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your hosts, Jen Horn and Katie

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Gorka. Thanks

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for joining us and welcome to another

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episode of the Happy Women Podcast. We

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are so happy to have you with

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us today. I'm Jennifer Horn. And

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I'm Katie Gorka. And

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it is officially graduation season,

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Katie. It

0:38

has been a long time since I've graduated

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from anything other than the school of hard

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knocks. But college

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was a while ago and I remember it was

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great. I

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remember being very sick at my college graduation,

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but dang it, I was going to walk because I

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did it. I earned it. I

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got my diploma. And

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I look back at this time of year as being really

1:01

kind of a fun thing where it's the

1:03

first time that you have a huge accomplishment

1:05

and it's like the start of something and

1:08

kids can go out and they realize they

1:10

have the whole world ahead of them. But

1:12

it seems that commencement addresses have gotten very

1:14

political these days, as has everything, I guess.

1:19

So I actually have to confess

1:21

that I did not go to my

1:23

college graduation. Isn't that crazy? You skipped

1:25

it. I did. I

1:28

haven't even thought about that in years, but

1:30

I had kind of mixed feelings. I

1:32

did not love my college experience, I

1:35

will say. And

1:37

I did not graduate on time

1:40

because I missed having a science

1:43

requirement. So I had to

1:45

stay and do rocks for jocks

1:47

in summer school. And

1:49

then I'm like, I'm not sticking around for

1:51

graduation. I mean, I think I missed my,

1:53

I would have missed my June graduation. Okay.

1:56

So that's my graduation story. So yeah, I

1:58

got it. You know,

2:01

one thing I think that I love about you

2:03

is that even though we talk a lot about

2:05

the college experience of what's going on on college

2:07

campuses, for me, I feel like

2:09

every bit of life experience, every bit of

2:11

knowledge that I use every single day in

2:13

my profession didn't come from like the college

2:15

setting. It came from just working

2:17

through it. And so when I graduated college, it literally

2:20

took me forever because I was working. I was a

2:22

commuter kid. I was just working, working, working all the

2:24

time. I took a couple of years off. And so

2:26

finally, when I put my nose to the grindstone and

2:28

actually graduated, I thought, I am not missing the chance

2:30

to walk across this dang stage and collect this

2:32

thing that I've been working on for so long.

2:35

But I can understand, you know,

2:37

I think had I done it

2:39

all at once, maybe I may have felt like you

2:41

and just maybe now shown up. I don't know. But

2:44

the reason we bring it up is

2:46

because you've probably heard by now the

2:48

story of Harrison Booker. But

2:51

things have blown up over the last few

2:53

days with this guy. Harrison Booker is a

2:56

kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. Now, the

2:58

Kansas City Chiefs, no slouch in the football

3:00

department, Super Bowl champs. You

3:02

know, of course, they've gotten a lot of

3:04

notoriety because they've got Patrick Mahomes as their

3:07

quarterback. Travis Kelsey, who's dating Taylor Swift now,

3:09

as one of

3:11

their what is he a defensive end, I think, or

3:13

whatever he is. This

3:15

team gets a lot of attention. But

3:17

I don't think that Harrison Booker got

3:20

much attention until he was speaking at

3:22

a college commencement. And so they asked

3:24

him to speak in a graduation address at a Catholic university

3:26

makes sense so

3:31

far, right? And he made a 20 minute

3:33

speech. And

3:36

during that time, he inflamed every leftist

3:38

on the planet. And

3:40

for a group of people who I think had forgotten, Katie,

3:42

what a woman was and forgot how

3:45

to defend women like when it comes to competing in

3:47

sports, they were not able to defend

3:50

women. Like when it comes to competing

3:52

in sports. Now the left remembers

3:55

what women are again, and they were outraged

3:57

on behalf of all women. Harrison

4:00

Bucker speech, so we're gonna listen to you. But can

4:02

I make a full confession to you? Yes.

4:05

So I have to read a lot of news

4:07

like you do. I host a radio show in

4:10

Los Angeles. And I was reading the headlines about

4:12

this Harrison Bucker speech. And based on

4:14

the headlines I read, I was like, this guy's

4:16

a misogynist. There's no please. This

4:18

guy's terrible. And I mentioned to my co host,

4:20

Grant Stinchfield, who some of you know from Real

4:22

America's Voice, maybe, or you listen to on the

4:25

radio program, I do. Grant DeGent, I

4:27

think you really need to listen to this speech. I'm like,

4:29

Oh, please grant, of course, you'd like this speech, you know,

4:31

and I'm just giving them a hard time. That's what we

4:33

do with each other. I

4:35

was wrong. This is I can't believe

4:37

I never fall for headlines. Never. But

4:40

I fell for this, these headlines, because they

4:43

were so strong and so crazy. But when

4:45

I listened to the speech of Harrison Bucker,

4:48

I couldn't find much to argue about. And

4:51

I'm really curious to know what you think. I know you

4:53

haven't previewed the whole thing yet, because I kind of wanted

4:55

it to be authentic so that

4:57

I could get your real reactions, Katie. But

4:59

let's jump into some of this speech and

5:01

hear from Harrison Bucker. This was his commencement

5:03

address. 20 minutes to

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students at a college, Catholic college. And

5:08

he talks about how women have been lied

5:10

to take a listen to this. I

5:12

think it is you, the women who have

5:14

had the most diabolical lies told to you.

5:17

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5:19

across the stage, and are thinking about

5:21

all the promotions and titles you're going to get in

5:24

your career. Some of you may

5:26

go on to lead successful careers in the world,

5:28

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5:30

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he then said that while some of the

6:36

women in the audience may go on to

6:38

lead successful careers in the world, he would

6:40

venture to guess the majority of you are

6:42

most excited about your marriage and the children

6:44

you will bring into the world. He claimed

6:46

his wife, and he talked about his wife

6:48

Isabel, would be the first to say

6:50

that her life truly started when she began living

6:52

her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

6:55

He added that Homemaker is one of the

6:57

most important titles of all. That

7:01

was one of the things that drove people absolutely

7:03

insane. Now Katie,

7:07

you're an incredible mother. You took time

7:09

off to raise your kids. I

7:11

do not have kids at

7:13

this point, but I will

7:15

tell you that as someone who

7:19

is a really proud career woman, I

7:21

do think that there's a piece of

7:23

me that is

7:25

missing. Now that doesn't mean I'm saying every

7:27

woman needs to have children. That doesn't mean

7:29

that every person on the planet is destined

7:32

to be a mother. But I think

7:34

in our culture right now, the emphasis

7:37

is on creating strong women, strong career

7:39

women, and homemakers are almost disrespected by

7:41

the Maine when this is the most

7:43

important job, to raise a great and

7:46

thriving family. And that there should be

7:48

no shame in people who choose or

7:50

who have the ability to go

7:53

home and actually raise their kids. I mean financially

7:55

some people can't and they would really like to,

7:58

but I think if we're about promoting free choices

8:00

and we're about promoting all sorts of thoughts

8:03

and ways of life, there

8:05

is a real push by

8:07

society to try to oppress or to try

8:09

to put down women who choose

8:11

to do this really important job. And when

8:13

I heard this, I was like, I'm glad

8:15

he spoke out about his wife and talking

8:17

about the fact that she's able to raise their

8:20

kids and that she knows the value of

8:22

that. There's no shame in saying that at

8:24

all. I

8:26

think he was really right in saying that

8:28

women have been lied to. I

8:31

think it's really true. I

8:35

got into my 20s thinking,

8:37

I'm not going to have children. And

8:40

I'm older than you. And

8:43

so this was even longer ago, right,

8:45

before feminism had sort of so taken

8:48

over. But even then,

8:50

I was kind of anti-children. And honestly,

8:52

it was only when my sister had

8:55

kids that I really kind of woke

8:57

up to the beauty of motherhood. And

9:00

then I am just so, I'm like

9:02

grateful beyond words. And actually, this

9:04

is part of my prayer of

9:07

gratitude every morning to God that

9:09

I was blessed to not

9:11

only find an incredible husband, but

9:13

to have two amazing children and my

9:15

career for as much as I love

9:18

it and as much as I value

9:20

my work, find fulfillment

9:22

in it, my children

9:26

and my husband always come first.

9:29

So I love what he said.

9:31

And I was with my Gallagher this

9:33

morning talking about my book. And

9:36

he made a comment about this, which I thought was a

9:38

really good one. He said, there

9:41

are reasonable responses to what he

9:43

said, right? If you wanted to

9:45

have a reasonable conversation, someone might

9:47

have made the point, okay,

9:49

not everybody is called to motherhood

9:52

or not everybody is called to

9:54

marriage. And that's okay too. But

9:56

to tear him down and

9:59

to, you know, baby. basically want to massacre

10:01

him because of what he said

10:03

is ridiculous. And wait till you

10:05

hear what some celebrities are asking

10:07

for right now. And that's

10:09

the point is that I think true

10:11

feminism comes from lifting up all women.

10:13

So whether that woman chooses a career

10:15

or whether that woman chooses to go home,

10:18

there shouldn't be any shame. And we

10:20

shouldn't look at the women who are

10:22

at home as somehow weaker. If anything, they're

10:24

putting a part of their life aside

10:26

because they are prioritizing their family and I

10:28

just I think it is really a

10:30

weird place that we're in when we

10:32

have celebrities and you have all these people

10:35

with loud voices and big platforms somehow

10:37

be smurching what is one of the

10:39

most important jobs on the planet is to

10:41

be a great mom and to create a

10:43

great family life. All right, so let's hear a

10:45

little bit more because the anger is real. At

10:48

number two, he talks about biblical teachings. Take

10:50

a listen. It was exactly what

10:52

the cultural elite want to see in Christianity,

10:55

private, hidden away and

10:57

harmless. Our Catholic

10:59

faith has always been countercultural. Our

11:02

Lord along with countless followers were all

11:04

put to death for their adherence to

11:06

her teachings. The world around

11:09

us says that we should keep our

11:11

beliefs to ourselves whenever they go against

11:13

the tyranny of diversity, equity and inclusion.

11:16

We fear speaking truth because now unfortunately

11:18

truth is in the minority. Congress

11:21

just passed a bill. We're stating something

11:23

as basic as the biblical teaching of

11:25

who killed Jesus could land you in

11:27

jail. I mean, I don't

11:29

hear him saying anything wrong. He's saying

11:31

that truth is getting buried because we're

11:34

trying to be inclusive to

11:36

everyone except for the people who might

11:38

have an alternate perspective. Again, this is

11:40

Harrison Bucker speech. He's a kicker for

11:42

the Kansas City Chiefs of Benedictine College,

11:45

a Catholic university where he got a standing

11:47

ovation. But people on the left,

11:49

especially celebrities, are all up in arms about that.

11:52

You know, and I just want to add, I told

11:54

you that I skipped my own graduation. So I don't

11:56

even know what was said, but I had to sit

11:58

through both of my children's college

12:01

graduations in the last few years. Both

12:04

of them were, the

12:06

talks were rabidly liberal.

12:09

And you didn't hear anybody from

12:11

the conservative side making outrageous

12:13

comments, right? But heaven forbid

12:15

that this guy should make this speech.

12:18

But I just wanna say that the

12:20

clip that we just played right around

12:22

it, like either right before or right

12:24

after, he had one

12:26

of my favorite lines from the speech, which

12:28

was this. He

12:30

said, we need to stop pretending that

12:32

the church of Nice is a winning

12:34

proposition. Isn't that great? The church of

12:36

Nice, I know. Yes, I love that.

12:39

Let's listen to one more clip and

12:41

then we're gonna talk about this crazy

12:43

reaction. All right, this is about his

12:45

teammates girlfriend who we all know is

12:47

little Tay Tay, Taylor Swift. Tragically,

12:49

so many priests revolve much of their

12:51

happiness from the adulation they receive from

12:54

their parishioners. And in searching for this,

12:56

they let their guard down and become

12:58

overly familiar. This undue

13:00

familiarity will prove to be problematic

13:03

every time because as my teammates

13:05

girlfriend says, familiarity breeds

13:07

contempt. So I

13:10

don't understand the uproar. What's the issue there?

13:12

I am telling you that people have gone

13:14

crazy saying that he should have, and I

13:16

wanna again, remind people, this is at a

13:18

Catholic university. This guy is Catholic. He's talking

13:20

to a group of Catholics. But

13:23

people have said that he should be replaced. So

13:25

now you've got the head of the Kansas City

13:27

Star who has said that he

13:29

needs to be fired by the Kansas City

13:31

Chiefs and that he should be replaced as

13:34

punishment by a female kicker that he needs

13:36

to go because he's misogynist. This

13:39

is some of the quotes from

13:41

social media from Hollywood celebrities, Maren

13:43

Morris, country singer who never,

13:46

this is a moment to chime in on

13:48

anything cultural. Refer back to

13:50

our podcast. I think she must listen to Happy Women. Remember

13:52

when we asked if you were in the forest, would

13:55

you rather choose the man or the bear?

13:57

She writes on Instagram, I chose the bear.

14:00

referring to the trend where women state whether they

14:02

would rather encounter a bear or man. She

14:04

puts that on the bottom of his video. Slave

14:07

a slave who you might know wears the big

14:10

clock around his neck. Sounds

14:12

like some players need to stay in their lanes

14:14

and shouldn't be giving commencement speeches. He says that

14:17

you've got a couple of

14:19

other folks, Lisa Guerrero, who works for the

14:21

NFL. If you want to continue to grow

14:23

your female fan base and any other marginalized

14:25

group, straight men are

14:27

already watching your product. Come get your

14:29

boy, basically asking him to be removed.

14:31

And this one kills me. Hoda

14:34

Kotb and Jenna Bush, who

14:36

are now on the Today Show. Jenna

14:38

Bush says, who is Harrison to

14:40

tell us? Don't speak for

14:43

us. I think that's the kind of thing. Stop

14:45

speaking for women out there. Whoopi

14:48

Goldberg equated him to Colin Kaepernick.

14:50

Maria Shriver says, as a woman

14:52

who has leaned into my

14:54

vocation of living a meaningful life inside and

14:57

outside the home to not only raise good

14:59

humans, but also raise up our country in

15:01

various ways. I think it's demeaning to women

15:03

to imply that their choices outside of wife

15:05

and motherhood pale in comparison to that of

15:08

a homemaker. That's not

15:10

what he is saying at all. But these

15:12

people have gone nuts. Eddie Vedder from Pearl

15:14

Jam called him terrible names. But

15:17

the one that I will point out that I think is

15:19

absolutely right, and it's someone who is a conservative, and I

15:21

believe she's also a Catholic, Patricia Heaton, who is on. Everybody

15:24

loves Raymond, feels exactly, I think, how we

15:26

might about this. She said, quote, I

15:29

don't understand why everyone's knickers are in a

15:31

twist. She actually did a video on this. Booker

15:35

gave a commencement speech. The audience applauded twice

15:37

during the speech and gave him a standing

15:39

ovation at the end. Clearly

15:41

they enjoyed what he was saying. The guy

15:43

is espousing his own opinions and Catholic doctrine.

15:45

So what? It's his opinion. He

15:47

can have one. He's allowed. He's

15:49

not a monster for stating what he believes. He

15:52

went after bishops much more than he went after

15:54

women or what women's choices are or

15:56

what he thinks they should be. I don't

15:59

understand. And I think that's

16:01

where rational people really find themselves. And that's

16:03

why I started by saying, look, I

16:05

fell into this because I was reading

16:07

every headline. They really misquoted everything that

16:09

this guy said during his commencement address

16:11

in a way to try to mislead

16:13

people so that you spread the hatred

16:15

against this guy who really said

16:17

nothing in my mind, all that controversial. And

16:21

as she points out, was expressing

16:24

his opinion, like, when does that

16:26

become illegal in America? It just

16:30

really, it's pretty incredible. Now,

16:32

I wonder if we could shift from

16:34

that to talking about one of

16:36

my other favorite commencement speeches on

16:38

these recent days. And that was

16:40

our president, Joe Biden, speaking at

16:44

Morehouse College. This is an

16:46

all-male African-American

16:48

college. And Biden

16:51

gave a speech that was just,

16:53

I think, one of the saddest,

16:56

most depressing commencement speeches I've

16:58

ever heard. First of all,

17:01

he talked a lot about himself.

17:04

And God bless him, he

17:06

talked about the tragedies that he has

17:08

faced. He talked about getting the call

17:10

that his wife and daughter were killed in

17:12

a car crash. He talked

17:14

about losing his son to brain cancer. I'm

17:18

sorry that he's gone through those things. Not

17:21

sure they're great content for a

17:23

college graduation speech. But what really

17:25

got under my skin is the

17:28

fact that he treated these men,

17:30

these men who have gone to

17:33

college, done the work, to graduate

17:35

from college. And all he wants

17:37

to do is drive home to

17:40

them that they are

17:42

the inheritors of the legacy

17:44

of slavery and really shouldn't

17:47

see themselves as independent human

17:49

beings with volition and ambition. I

17:51

mean, it was the saddest, most

17:53

depressing thing. Okay, here's one of

17:55

the lines that just killed me.

17:57

He said, What

18:00

does it mean to be a black

18:02

man and love his country, even

18:04

if it doesn't love him back

18:07

in equal measure? I'm

18:09

sorry, that's not the America we live in anymore.

18:11

No, it is not. And I'll tell you something

18:13

else. I think he's

18:16

lifted that straight out of Nicole

18:18

Hannah Jones' 1619 project because

18:20

she opens up with the story of

18:22

her father coming back from having served

18:24

in World War II and

18:27

loving his country, but his country not

18:29

loving him back in return. I think

18:31

that's stolen from that. And let's just

18:33

say it wouldn't be the first time

18:36

he plays your. No, I

18:38

think that's kind of his that's sort of his M.O.

18:41

What I don't understand is that when you

18:43

are speaking at a graduation, this is a

18:45

happy moment in life. You are not speaking

18:47

at a funeral. You're speaking at a graduation,

18:49

which is really actually representative of a new

18:51

life that you can create yourself. It is

18:53

a create for yourself. It's a new beginning.

18:56

And I think what made me

18:58

insane about this speech is that Joe

19:00

Biden basically said, congratulations, I'm making it

19:02

through this really prestigious university. Your

19:05

life's going to suck for the rest of the

19:07

time because you're black or you're a woman or

19:09

whatever it is that they want to try to

19:11

marginalize people with. This is your chance. I

19:14

mean, shouldn't the message at a graduation be, wow,

19:17

you've done all of this hard work. You've

19:19

made it through. The world is ready for you.

19:21

You are now able to go out and do

19:23

whatever you put your mind to. Go out there

19:26

and do it. Hard

19:28

path. I don't want to be at the graduation

19:30

where a guy's telling me that everything's going to stink because America's

19:33

terrible and systemically racist.

19:36

And that was the only not the only lie he told.

19:38

In fact, let's listen to a couple of clips here of

19:41

Joe Biden. I like to call him Chairman

19:44

Joe, but President Biden at Morehouse College. And

19:46

he's giving this commencement address. Here's what a

19:48

little bit of it sounded like. I

19:51

never thought when I was graduating in 1968,

19:53

as your honoree just was, we

19:56

talked about, I never thought I'd be

19:58

in a president time. is

20:00

a national effort to ban books, not

20:03

to write history, but to erase

20:05

history. They don't see

20:07

you in the future of America, but

20:10

they're wrong. To me,

20:13

we make history. We're

20:15

experiencing instability at every level. Our government

20:17

lacks leadership and bidenomics has been a

20:19

disaster. The economy is in a fragile

20:21

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one of the things that he talked about, Katie,

21:19

that drove me absolutely nuts is

21:21

that leftists,

21:24

Democrats, love to call

21:26

Republicans names and

21:28

try to label them as something

21:30

that really the Democrats are, right?

21:32

They like to call Republicans racist

21:35

when really the racist stuff is

21:37

happening within the Democrat Party. They're

21:40

the ultimate in gas lighters. When

21:42

Joe Biden starts talking about banning

21:44

books at this graduation, as part

21:46

of his commencement, I almost

21:49

like my head almost lifted off my shoulders

21:51

because it is not Republicans or

21:54

conservatives who are out there banning

21:56

books. It is the left

21:58

who wants to get rid of to kill

22:00

a mockingbird. They want to get rid of

22:03

huckleberry's scent. They want to erase

22:05

all references to any sort of

22:07

racism or the civil rights movement, which

22:09

by the way should give us hope

22:11

that we got better as a country.

22:13

They want to erase all of that.

22:15

They're the ones banning the real books.

22:17

Conservatives want to ban a graphic novel

22:20

showing pictures of gay sex in a fourth

22:22

grade classroom. Like the lies

22:25

are just there. And then

22:27

he can't even manage to spin a positive

22:30

take on what's ahead for a

22:32

group of people who could really

22:34

use that inspiration as they start out

22:36

on a new track in life. But instead it

22:39

is doom and gloom. And they do

22:41

that because they want you to feel that it's

22:43

hopeless so that you have to rely on the

22:45

government to make things better for you. And that's

22:47

what always sits at the bottom of all of

22:49

the doom and gloom from Democrats, particularly when they

22:52

talk to people that they consider to be in

22:54

a marginalized group. Well,

22:57

and you know what? It shouldn't come as

22:59

a surprise that his speech really fell flat.

23:03

One of the most interesting things for me

23:05

is listening not only to what he says,

23:07

but to the response. I

23:10

mean, there was barely any applause. Nobody

23:12

laughed at his jokes. And

23:15

apparently there were people there who

23:17

actually protested his having been chosen

23:20

and turned their backs on him. But

23:23

I think the most telling thing of all is

23:25

listening to the responses to what

23:27

he said. And there was no enthusiasm for

23:29

it. This message, I

23:31

just think that the Democrats

23:33

have been trying to coast

23:36

their way to victory on

23:38

this message. It

23:40

is falling flat. And it's no

23:42

wonder that it's black men in

23:45

particular who are abandoning the Democratic

23:47

Party and coming over to the

23:49

Republican side where there is a

23:52

message of endless possibility, right?

23:55

Yes, and I think actually, and this

23:57

is props to President Trump. President

24:00

Trump went into the White House. He

24:02

tackled the hard stuff that Democrats would

24:04

never tackle, like criminal justice reform. He

24:07

talked about economic issues. And

24:09

here's what you have now. When you realize that

24:11

for so long, this one guy was vilified as

24:14

being a racist and all these horrible things, but

24:16

you realize your life is worse today than it

24:19

was when he was president, you've got a lot

24:21

of people now, particularly black men, as you mentioned,

24:23

that are saying, you know what? Maybe

24:25

we don't like any of these characters, but you

24:27

know what? At least the Republican Party, at least

24:29

with President Trump in office, you're going to get

24:31

a fair shot. At least you have a little

24:33

bit more money in your pocket. At least you

24:35

have more opportunity around you. There's a little bit

24:38

more optimism, because that's

24:40

not what you're getting from Joe Biden

24:42

and not in this current climate

24:44

of leftism, which is really about

24:46

holding people down. And

24:50

I think one of the things that's

24:52

not talked about enough is the fact

24:54

that Trump brought some extraordinary black

24:57

conservatives around him to help him

24:59

with his task. And there were

25:01

just some amazing people there. And

25:03

I think it's really interesting. I'm

25:05

actually going to an event tomorrow

25:08

here in D.C. with black

25:10

conservatives. So it's like there is a

25:12

growing movement. Now, on that note, I

25:14

want to also mention one more graduation

25:17

speech. And I think if you

25:19

need some inspiration to

25:21

sort of, you know, wash out

25:24

the bad taste from the from

25:26

the Biden graduation, all of the

25:28

bad vibes from that. Absolutely.

25:31

I think there's a perfect contrast

25:33

in the speech. It's a I

25:36

guess it's sort of like a

25:38

generic graduation speech that was done

25:40

by Clarence Thomas. It's

25:43

new. It's on PragerU. And

25:45

he starts out by saying, you know, to the students

25:47

of 2024. And

25:50

I mean, Clarence Thomas is, I

25:52

think, just such an extraordinary inspiration.

25:55

And I want to say if anybody

25:57

hasn't seen the movie yet. about

26:00

him called Created Equal. It

26:03

is one of the most

26:05

beautiful movies that I've ever

26:07

seen. I love that

26:09

movie. And you'll

26:11

see some of the elements from the

26:14

movie in the speech because Clarence Thomas

26:16

talks about his grandfather. He was primarily

26:18

raised by his grandparents who

26:21

really had very strong

26:23

values. And

26:25

he talks about the Irish nuns who educated

26:28

him. It's amazing to hear him talk in

26:30

the speech about the fact that how

26:32

brave these nuns were to

26:35

come from Ireland to the

26:37

segregated American South to

26:40

teach what he described as primarily

26:42

poor black children. And

26:45

they asked these kids to do

26:47

hard things. They really asked them to

26:50

work hard and they were able to

26:52

do that because of their love. Their

26:54

love for these kids was so great.

26:58

But for me, I think what was

27:00

the most powerful was it's

27:03

really a call to be courageous, his

27:05

speech. And of all the

27:07

people who can talk about that, he

27:09

certainly can with everything that he was

27:11

put through in his

27:13

Senate confirmation, which if you

27:16

remember, it was Senator

27:18

Joe Biden who gave Clarence Thomas

27:20

the hardest time of all. But

27:24

Clarence Thomas said, it takes courage

27:26

to do something despite

27:29

the risk. And I think

27:31

there's no more important message

27:33

right now. I think what

27:35

Harrison Butler did was incredibly

27:37

courageous. And I hope

27:39

just in spite of all the attacks

27:41

that are gonna be on him, he

27:43

will stand firm. And I hope he

27:45

serves as an inspiration to others to

27:48

stand up and be courageous in this

27:50

difficult time. So let me give you

27:53

this little nugget. So we talked about

27:55

all the negativity around Harrison Butler. He

27:57

also has the top selling Jersey. both

28:00

women and men's version in

28:02

the last two weeks. So he is

28:04

not suffering. And you know what, I think there

28:06

is courage in speaking truth. And even

28:09

when things aren't popular, you know what? You can

28:11

still go out there and you can still tell

28:13

people how you feel and you can still gain

28:16

consensus with people who agree with you.

28:18

And unfortunately, I think

28:20

that when the messages are

28:22

meant to bring

28:24

you down, to oppress you, those messages are never

28:27

gonna be as powerful as the ones based in

28:29

truth and optimism. And I think that's what we

28:31

see from Harris Becker. And let's listen a little

28:33

bit now to Clarence Thomas. It's a good place

28:36

for us to end today's episode. This is Clarence

28:38

Thomas from that video on PragerU. Do

28:40

you have the will and the courage to

28:42

prepare educationally, morally,

28:45

and intellectually to

28:47

address the myriad challenges that you

28:49

will face? In

28:51

this world of social media and

28:53

shaming and other personal attacks, will

28:56

you have the courage of your

28:58

convictions to stand up for what

29:00

you believe in? There

29:02

are challenges coming your way. As

29:05

I've so often had to do in my

29:07

own life, I pray that

29:09

each of you will have the wisdom to

29:11

know what is right and the

29:13

courage to do it. I'm

29:16

Clarence Thomas, Associate Justice of

29:18

the Supreme Court of

29:20

the United States. We go, he's one

29:22

of the best Supreme Court Justice, Clarence

29:24

Thomas. Happy graduation to all

29:26

of you graduates. And it is interesting that

29:29

even commencement speeches, I guess maybe they have

29:31

been pretty political for a while, but it

29:33

seems like we just can't avoid

29:36

getting angry about things

29:38

these days, even commencement addresses.

29:42

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