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welcome to the show. Legendary. Cheech and Chong, man.
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Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank
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you. Well,
5:47
thank you guys for being here. We're going to
5:49
get into your just the ground
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setting and trend setting things you guys did
5:54
in your past. But how's current life? What's going on
5:56
with you guys today? Today,
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first I woke up. And
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then here I am We're
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doing a bunch of things man. We got
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this business going this this kicking ass, you
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know We just we've got it all over
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the country now. Yeah, we
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were doing what you were talking about revitalizing
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other Pot
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shops and Rebranding
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them so that's going good and what else
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we just did we're both married to real
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strong women So we don't do a whole
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lot of anything. No I Just
6:29
say how does this look? Okay. Yeah, the
6:31
power of a strong mind No
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touring though, right? No. No.
6:40
No, we know we find it when I went
6:42
into the the monitors at one show cut the
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shit out of myself and messed up
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my knee And he
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didn't want to do the wheelchair thing
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and we told are you kidding at
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the airport man? Do the wheelchair thing
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because then they put you on first
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and anybody with you The
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strippers do it everywhere now Oh the strippers you if you
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go to the airport the strippers and figure it out They
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act like they hurt and they get on the plane first
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if you know In
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Miami I
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Ran into this guy that you know, my
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wife is Russian born and raised in
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st. Petersburg Russian Russians all these Russians
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are so beautiful and and Educated
7:28
and you know that my wife just
7:30
got her doctorate from SE music and
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and the public abilities together I'll strip
7:34
all the Russians. I know we're strippers
7:38
There's the other side, you know, they're
7:40
smart. Yeah, they're smart. Yeah, just speaking of
7:42
strippers. You guys remember LaWanda
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Paige Yeah,
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and Esther on uh, red
7:49
fox red Googler
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don't tell me she used to be she used
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to be a top stripper. Yeah
7:59
exactly dancer. I've worked with her
8:01
in Canada in the 50s and
8:03
she had an act where she
8:06
had a live bow
8:08
of snakes and trouble is a
8:10
snake died but she kept using
8:12
it. You gotta Google her, the
8:15
one the bitch she
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was the spinnin, she was
8:21
called gorgeous beautiful woman but she had
8:23
a sense of humor that was
8:26
funny. I knew her, I knew her
8:28
there. Yeah she kept that snake. Miller
8:35
who was with Red Fox too and she
8:37
was a dancer in the well
8:40
the guys you know the bebop,
8:43
the old bebop when right at the end
8:45
of the war you know and jazz
8:48
and beat and dancing was the thing to
8:50
do. Yeah well Norma Miller was one of
8:53
those documentaries when she
8:55
was dancing on the day, she was
8:57
it. Yeah so she ended up being
8:59
a MC at Red Fox's comedy club
9:02
and so the first time that Cheech
9:05
and I were ever on stage ever
9:07
in a comedy setting was at Red
9:09
Fox's club and so Norma
9:11
says what's your name and so we told
9:13
her you know Cheech and Chong and so
9:15
when it's time to announce her she goes
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and ladies gentlemen here they are give it
9:20
up for a geekin' gank. I'm telling you
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who do you want to be the night
9:24
geeker gank man? I'll
9:26
be the other guy. Leany
9:29
Bruce's hole into entourage was there.
9:31
Lenny had just died a couple
9:33
months earlier and it's
9:36
entourage that used to follow many
9:39
everywhere they had nowhere to follow.
9:41
Nobody to follow. And so they
9:43
they were at the
9:45
comedy club when we
9:47
were there and Tony
9:49
Vascara, Lenny Bruce's father-in-law.
9:53
He was a young Chicano that married
9:55
Lenny's mother Sallymar.
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I think she was 19 years old. 40
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and she was like 60 and
10:03
Tony lied said he was 30
10:06
when he was like 18 and They
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got married and they went
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10:12
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10:14
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10:21
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10:23
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10:25
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and so I said that Tony I said what's
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It's taken out so many people and
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Tony didn't say a word He reached in his pocket
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and pulled out a packet of heroin and
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11:19
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11:24
I just pushed it down the toilet Tell
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us about up and jokes debuts
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soon. Well, one of the things
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when we were there looked around and this
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would make a great comedy club Because what
11:42
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11:46
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know, that wants to go on stage
12:02
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then charge them 10%. We're gonna
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be the managers now. We
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12:20
it would be like what dispensaries
12:22
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12:24
not. See, I was never really...
12:26
Even though we had a cannabis
12:29
cafe in one of our movies,
12:32
what was it, Still Smol that
12:54
made the backwards watches. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That
12:56
was the guy. But I don't know that...
12:59
What did we call it? Do you remember? I don't know. Pot
13:01
Cafe. I don't know what it was. Yeah,
13:04
it had a name on it.
13:06
I can't remember. Yeah, Pot Cafe.
13:08
Something like that. But times have
13:10
changed and now Amsterdam's... Bulldogs. It's
13:13
almost illegal there. Really?
13:15
Yeah, it flipped around. I
13:17
just came from there and I stated the
13:19
dispensary of the restaurant cafe the
13:21
whole day and smoked all day, everything.
13:24
Yeah, isn't that nice? I love Amsterdam.
13:26
That's nice. That was great. Yeah. We
13:28
shot a movie there, you know, they heard... I
13:31
directed it, you know, they heard, oh man,
13:33
Chong's coming. So all the big
13:36
pot heads in Amsterdam, they got together, you
13:38
know, we're gonna take Chong out for a
13:41
night. I
13:43
made it for about a half hour.
13:46
It's different. They literally had to carry me
13:49
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13:51
I thought two people packed. And the next morning,
13:53
they still hadn't been to bed. There's still parties.
13:56
Man, those Dutch guys, man. They
14:00
go hard. Oh. I was
14:02
in a cafe out there one time smoking and
14:04
I saw two people kind of just lose consciousness
14:06
and they carried him outside, lift him upside down
14:08
and pour like water on their neck and on
14:10
their head and they came back to life. Really?
14:12
That must be the tradition. I give it to
14:14
two of us. Just to eat, man. Yeah, man,
14:16
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14:18
Hold him upside down and pour water here and
14:21
on their face and they started coming back to
14:23
life like some fish. I was like, what the
14:25
fuck is going on here? I thought I'm good,
14:27
right? Oh. Well, Amsterdam was crazy back then. I
14:29
couldn't imagine. They had squatters. Has it always been
14:31
not to cut you off? Has it always
14:33
been legal out there, I'm guessing? Yeah, sorry.
14:35
It comes as old. Yeah, it does. Depends
14:38
on who you've got in
14:40
power. Right now they're leaning toward the
14:42
right wing kind of. Oh, okay. So,
14:44
yeah. See, Amsterdam was always what everybody
14:46
else was doing. They would do the
14:48
opposite. Okay. You know,
14:51
that's really the nature. Interesting.
14:53
You guys announced also that you guys have
14:55
a biopic. Yeah. Can
14:58
you tell us a little bit about that? I know. No.
15:01
Oh, that's why I'm still saying
15:03
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. The
15:06
biopic. See,
15:09
a biopic, he didn't have to be in it. Yeah.
15:13
I'm dead already in this biopic. My
15:17
kids take over. If
15:20
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15:25
it. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. My
15:27
line. Okay.
15:29
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15:31
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15:34
Oh, coming up. We're gonna be doing it in
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March. No. Oh,
15:39
that, oh, the biopic. It's
15:41
not a biopic, it's actually a
15:43
documentary. It's a documentary, okay. It's
15:45
a documentary, yeah. More of a
15:47
documentary, but after the, it's called
15:49
Cheech and Chong's Last Movie. Okay.
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15:56
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15:58
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You grew up a straight A student, a son of a
21:58
police officer. Yeah. The By
22:00
way So Calgary the last week we have
22:02
a brain cells live. I live were young
22:04
Calgary? Yeah yeah. Cameo and I wasn't born
22:07
in Calgary. Area
22:09
but I went to Cal Grant when
22:11
I went to Canada though I got
22:13
deported. That and co agree with this
22:15
idea if if if activities we have
22:17
a band we're the first. So bad.
22:20
In Western Canada. The. Soon
22:22
we got so popular with not resemble
22:24
I have a question of the seeds
22:26
have the same that band to see
22:28
this Yes everybody was a different color
22:30
and beset on all day as we
22:33
found ourselves the same boat as though
22:35
but we're all athletes like we had
22:37
a sax player that could have been
22:39
a probe. Pro. Football player, year
22:41
old dad died and Anna in the
22:44
right the singer. Was. The
22:46
star running back that there were
22:48
grooming him for the Pros: Tommy
22:50
Milton. The. Skies thing was that
22:52
you kick the ball Noom! he'd run
22:54
it back for a touchdown, but for
22:57
the junior and so so he became
22:59
the singer and my brother was a
23:01
linebacker at the time and so. My.
23:04
Brother became the bass player because we
23:06
needed a car is it said he
23:08
couldn't play bass but he media guys
23:11
and I know so we had on
23:13
our end the piano player Bernie. He
23:15
was like a. He
23:18
played football too, but he was more
23:20
of a body builder. Give Mr. Everything
23:22
and and so we had a
23:25
tough as bad but we. Were.
23:28
So popular. Of. And
23:31
and. I. Don't know. Had
23:33
everything with that happened to me?
23:35
Very Serendipity. For.
23:37
Some reason. I
23:39
say oh I know what happens it was
23:41
there I got caught with a friend. A
23:43
friend of mine stole the car. And
23:46
installed near my house. So he called
23:48
me up his they got a car
23:50
but it's not run in and so I
23:52
went down to help them get the
23:54
car started. A course the cops Connors.
23:57
And. that we i ran home we ran
23:59
home and they followed the
24:01
footprints. So I went to
24:03
jail. I
24:06
went to jail for the first time
24:08
that night. Both
24:12
of us did. And it was funny
24:14
too because we both jumped into bed with our
24:16
clothes on and the cop came
24:18
to the door and my mom says, oh they've been here all
24:20
night. And the
24:22
cop said, excuse me ma'am, why follow
24:25
the snow into that bed? The cracks were in the
24:27
house. Took
24:29
us to jail. Well, in the end it
24:32
was called joyriding, $100 fine. But
24:39
my social kind
24:42
of mind said, well the reason people get in
24:44
trouble at Cal get there was nothing
24:46
for teenagers to do. And
24:48
so I went to the
24:50
magistrate that sentenced me, I went
24:52
and I had a talk with him. You know,
24:55
just knocked on his door
24:57
one day and I went in
24:59
and talked to him and I told him there was nothing for kids
25:01
to do. And he looked at me and he
25:03
says, weren't you just in front
25:05
of me? And I said,
25:07
yes. And he
25:10
says, the kids need something to
25:12
do? He says, well go find something to do.
25:15
He says, go do it. It's
25:17
your idea. And so I
25:19
started the teen club, the shades
25:21
teen club. It was a
25:23
stroke of genius because we got everything
25:25
donated. We got a hall donated
25:27
in the, right downtown, the Legion Hall, the
25:32
best hall you could get. And so
25:34
our band, that's where we started playing. And
25:36
so our band was Arm, first R&B, first
25:39
time they heard Chuck Berry or Bo
25:41
Dilly or anything in Calgary. And
25:44
we've had people come in from everywhere
25:46
in Alberta packing the place. Trouble
25:49
is they shut us down at midnight
25:51
and midnight, you got all these rock and roll
25:53
people with nothing to do in Calgary.
25:55
So they went and just terrorized the city.
25:58
And so the cops called. Those in into
26:01
the office of two weeks
26:03
before Christmas. Nineteen. Fifty
26:05
Eight. And they said the. Kid.
26:08
You guys got to the hell let
26:10
down? Relief? yeah, forget for how long
26:12
like. Forever. So the So as
26:14
a we lived at each other is it's
26:16
i see if a kid's year over were
26:19
young right and so we went to Vancouver
26:21
and and that's when we got That's when
26:23
my career really started was in Vancouver and
26:25
sustained gives us all we did was play
26:28
music and then sleep all night long you
26:30
know work all night and sleep all day
26:32
and when of so L a L a
26:34
I did the exact same thing and we
26:37
that arrest him. From Saudi. Hard
26:39
on different thanks hours and when we met.
26:42
With started playing since Essence at the
26:44
Same Story Right Get together right and
26:46
as. I
26:48
read as you thought you was, it was
26:50
it. You didn't want to go to the
26:52
war so you took off to Canada. I
26:54
did. So. Tell us about that part.
26:57
Know you don't want an hour in
26:59
on Saturday? Ocala, Florida? Sit Mississippi. I
27:02
was that it was I was I was
27:05
he he gets nervous years When we first
27:07
snacks we had to sneak into Canada originally
27:09
out a to go so really I do
27:11
as from Canada right after the satellite yeah
27:14
they they were you expecting a make sense
27:16
they can hear from Canada to rebuild stays
27:18
in I'd say are any of the I
27:21
people here note them. Fox was a shutout
27:23
bit of novels and by the A vow.
27:25
That with as the. As
27:28
though so am I was part of the
27:30
draft resistance. A Moon, David Harris, a Large
27:32
or Mohamad a little Mohammed Ali signed my
27:34
draft card no actually I'm with you if
27:37
you with me And thus when you quit,
27:39
right? ah love that some
27:41
i was like my last semester and
27:43
in school and and kelsey northridge or
27:45
valley stance that us ah valleys that
27:47
back then it was valley stay back
27:49
to africa earlier and i i took
27:51
a pottery class cause as as really
27:53
two girls since when are you doing
27:55
from this glass animals on the think
27:57
partnering with me okay stillness of to
27:59
pottery I flipped out. I was
28:01
like, pottery is my life now and I
28:03
quit all my other classes, quit my job,
28:05
got a loan and did pottery. So
28:08
I wanted to be a potter. But at the same time
28:10
I was this draft resister and so they
28:12
were after us. They were starting to send the –
28:14
Correct. Yeah, they were starting to send people to Leavenworth
28:16
and shit. And I was a
28:18
student. I was a 2S student, but they changed
28:21
our classifications and then
28:24
said, we're going to be the first ones drafted
28:26
and sent to the front lines in Vietnam. So
28:29
I said, well, that's a really good plan.
28:31
So I wanted to continue pottery. So
28:34
my pottery teacher said he had this student
28:36
in Canada that's starting a pottery, ex-student, and
28:38
maybe he needs a – I got
28:41
on the dog and went to – I went into
28:44
Canada and I was there for the next three years
28:47
awaiting my pending trial that was going
28:49
to come, which happened, which came. Three
28:52
years later we got – when we came back to – the
28:56
case went to court and got thrown
28:58
out, which we knew
29:00
was going to happen. Well, we hoped they would happen.
29:03
They got thrown out. That week they
29:05
sent me another notice to appear for physical.
29:09
This is three years later. And then a week later they sent
29:11
me another notice to – fuck.
29:13
But I had broken my leg really
29:15
badly skiing in Canada, which I never
29:18
skied before. Well,
29:20
you took Mexican lessons. Explain
29:24
what that means. Mexican
29:26
lessons. Sir, you need skis. You need
29:28
skis. And proper ski clothes. Those jeans
29:30
won't cut it. You need jeans. He
29:32
was out there with jeans and a
29:34
t-shirt on. You
29:37
know, I had jeans. I
29:39
had the money to buy ski clothes. And
29:42
so I came back. But it got
29:44
thrown out. So then
29:46
we were free to do cheats and chongs. But in
29:48
the interim, man, it was kind of a little dicey
29:50
because I was back in the country
29:52
illegally. I
29:55
was illegal both ways. Well, there's
29:57
no joke. What do you call a – A
30:00
musician without a girlfriend. Homeless.
30:04
On the road. And now I
30:06
heard that. It wasn't for girls. We
30:09
wouldn't be here today. I mean, you
30:11
kind of see that in the movies. You hang with
30:13
a lot of girls and kind of find your way.
30:15
How did you guys meet though? Like how did you,
30:17
you're clean, you're already there. I had
30:21
a couple of clubs, again, very serendipity.
30:24
Night clubs. I had two nightclubs
30:26
literally given to me. Hey,
30:29
because of the band, we had the hot
30:31
band and a guy bought
30:33
a nightclub or a building and he
30:35
wanted to shave. No,
30:38
this is another one. Okay. And so they,
30:41
would you like a club? Yeah, of
30:43
course. So I started after hours club,
30:46
which that's where I met Red Fox. And
30:48
so I met all the, you know, Motown
30:50
people and everybody. And,
30:53
and it was because our
30:55
band was so, so good that
30:58
we got discovered by Diana
31:00
Ross and the Supremes. They
31:02
came down and, and it was, again,
31:05
sex has a lot to do with it.
31:08
Cause Barry Gordy was doing
31:12
Diane at the time. And
31:14
so Diane said, Hey, I saw
31:17
this band as incredible band. And so Barry
31:19
said, okay. I'll come and check
31:21
them out and get a little booty call in the
31:23
meantime. So, so Barry showed up
31:26
and he saw us, signed us and
31:28
then forgot about us. Then forgot about
31:30
you. And so then we
31:32
gigged our way to Detroit and I wrote
31:34
a song called Does Your Mama Know About
31:36
Me? Diana Ross. Everybody
31:41
recorded it. Yeah. Really? And,
31:44
uh, yeah, Diana Ross
31:46
recorded it. And that's,
31:48
and that put me in good graces
31:50
with Barry, but, uh, but
31:53
then Bobby, Bobby was
31:55
old school, uh, rock
31:58
and roll singer, you know, old school. R&B
32:00
singer in other words, you had a couple
32:02
of jobs when you're old school and
32:04
one was being a pimp Part
32:07
the foremost. Yeah, and Again,
32:10
part yours don't have a
32:12
girl in your homeless. Yeah, you know
32:14
and uh, and so bobby's mentality couldn't
32:17
fit in with success on Big
32:19
scale on a big scale So
32:23
bobby Went his
32:25
way and then I got fired from
32:27
Motown Mmm, yeah, because I had another
32:29
gig to play. I had to get
32:31
my green card and that's all me too
32:35
Where are you getting your green card at? Ah,
32:38
what's that? Just laying there just wherever it was just
32:40
laying there They didn't have my name on it, but
32:42
it was just laying there So
32:45
I got my green card and then uh And
32:48
then we met he was running a his
32:50
family owned. It was a family owned It
32:53
was another club that was giving it was a
32:56
dinner club in chinatown in vancouver
32:59
So I turned it into a strip club And
33:02
we're doing good. That's why I knew about lavanda and all
33:04
that, you know, because strippers were good and everything But
33:07
after I got fired from Motown, I went back
33:09
to work the clubs to put
33:12
another band together actually and
33:14
then uh Then I was watching
33:16
the strippers because I had a choice that I
33:18
could work in the after hours club or
33:22
Be with the naked girls and I thought tough
33:24
decision. I think i'll do with the girls So
33:27
now watching I realized that they look
33:29
more beautiful when they come on
33:32
with their street street clothes. Exactly And
33:34
so I said wow And
33:36
they're good actresses, you know, because when you're a
33:38
stripper you're as an act and
33:40
so I said So I
33:42
wanted so I created a improvisational
33:45
acting Troupe with
33:47
the with the girls still doing
33:49
their strip, but they would have
33:51
street clothes on We'd we'd do
33:53
sexy bits that we got from
33:55
playboy magazine And
33:57
uh, But fully closed. The
34:00
street man we had a I had a partner
34:02
that had long hair in a straight guy that
34:04
look like a cop. While. He got
34:06
fired because we had publicity, was
34:09
too busy shut taken on the
34:11
front page of the paper with
34:13
Rick Land in the girls duties
34:15
on either side for the process
34:17
assistants to and is it is
34:19
Christian wife says no I don't
34:21
love what he was done in.
34:25
Cook County we call me that
34:27
bad I can't I can't work
34:29
anywhere is So there was a
34:31
mutual funds that san a a
34:34
Russian. Their. Own the hippie news
34:36
for Ukrainian. You cringe
34:38
green other it and and so he
34:40
told me his use a big fan
34:42
of the show he says i know
34:44
just a guy that you need a
34:46
new show and so I went down.
34:48
I met teacher at his that the
34:50
hippie newspaper thing. And. When I first
34:53
met teacher. At
34:55
I couldn't figure out what he was and he was.
34:57
It's. Become you know he's
34:59
hiding the fact that he was
35:01
Mexican. You know, since he was
35:03
a ah ah ah you if
35:05
you didn't hear an age and
35:07
richard mirror and. He
35:09
wasn't written Martin we didn't hear
35:12
the mighty know until we got
35:14
doubt about that would allow that.
35:16
Ah, is that how to pronounce.
35:20
Ethnicity. Or
35:22
them. Other side little that's
35:25
true in he was never in a
35:27
band in the sub know we we'd
35:29
like you said there was a friend
35:31
as that this magazine called pop in
35:33
and and I was writing for the
35:35
magazines. And. Reduced us and
35:37
we have incomes writing billie both sites other
35:39
we both do. What? Are you
35:42
in? Okay let's is. I like
35:44
a Mongolian biker. Early hours the less
35:46
you know what he would like A
35:48
moonie doesn't have shorter than sufficient
35:50
amount of the words. matter of my
35:53
phone and by her sister. i
35:56
thought i'd love to the little bland
35:58
the thunder He said he was a
36:00
blimp or something. Yeah. And
36:03
so he says, well, come on down. I told him
36:05
I was this great writer for an improv. So
36:09
he says, come down and see the show. And I did. And
36:11
it was OK. But
36:14
there's one bit that they did that just cracked
36:16
me up. So I go, OK, I'll join this
36:18
thing as a writer. And I
36:20
started writing for the improv company.
36:22
And then filling in for people
36:25
that weren't there, I do every
36:27
part in the show. So finally,
36:29
I could do the whole show.
36:32
At the end of the day, the troops split up.
36:35
And Tommy and I were ones left together. So what
36:37
do we do? Well,
36:39
we performed one time for
36:42
the Three Dog Night. Remember the Three
36:44
Dog Night, that band? Not
36:46
familiar. Really? OK. You are
36:48
a youngster. A youngster. Anyway,
36:51
they were very popular. They
36:53
were bigger than the. They had more hits
36:55
than. They had like
36:58
some 30 top 10
37:00
hits or something. Anyway, the
37:03
drummer was my first
37:05
wife was a beautiful
37:07
black lady from Calgary named Maxine.
37:10
Well, her brother Floyd Sneed was the drummer
37:12
of Three Dog Night. And
37:14
so they came to town. And
37:19
so we put a show together for them with
37:22
the improv. It was the last show we did with
37:24
all the girls and everything. And
37:26
then then Cheech and I put a
37:28
band together. And we're going to
37:30
do. We got a gig
37:32
at the Gardens Battle of the
37:34
Bands. And so we went
37:36
down there to play the Battle of the Bands.
37:39
We had our bass player and everybody all ready
37:41
to go. But we went
37:43
on and did comedy instead. To
37:45
begin with, we're going to do a few comedy
37:48
bits then go to music. We
37:50
never got to the music. Went so well,
37:52
huh? We just played the comedy, took a
37:54
bow. And then the bass player goes, oh,
37:56
when's our next gig, boss? Because
37:59
they never played it, no. And then on the
38:01
way home, we're driving in my
38:03
dad's car and the windshield wipers weren't
38:06
working it so we're taking turns leaning
38:08
out with a coat hanger working the
38:10
windshield wipers trying to figure out what
38:12
to call ourselves And
38:15
it was like Richard and Tommy nah Maren
38:18
and Chong my name so fine. I
38:20
said I
38:22
said Don't you have
38:24
a nickname and he said Cheech
38:30
And it was never Chong and Cheech
38:32
cuz being musicians we knew that it
38:34
scanned better teaching Chong. Mm-hmm Yeah,
38:38
and so that's what it was Yeah,
38:40
we're gonna kick over the world. See what we can get these
38:42
wipers fixed So
38:45
obviously starting in the music space transitioning to
38:47
improv and then ultimately comedy like who was
38:49
some of you guys earlier influences was it
38:52
was it strictly music or did You like
38:54
people on the comedy side as well. Yeah,
38:56
I grew up loving comedy In
38:59
every formation of everybody's every committee was on
39:01
the Ed Sullivan show and any of those
39:03
guys I've been I love comedy I've been
39:06
memorized all their routines and stuff and my
39:08
cousins and I we some others
39:10
brothers by by Tommy He
39:12
just died And
39:15
they were they were heroes and millenia
39:17
bruce and all those guys many Bruce.
39:19
Yeah, and so So
39:22
we we had the same Frame of
39:24
reference, you know I think that because I
39:26
grew up in an all-black neighborhood half my
39:28
life as South Central and then on all
39:30
white neighborhood And come out of here. So
39:33
one day everybody was black and then the
39:35
next day everybody was white What
39:38
happened in the nighttime You
39:41
went from hey, man chicken to
39:44
excuse me, sir That
39:46
was Canada Canada's
39:49
gonna fuse be sir So anyways,
39:51
you know But because you know
39:53
when when you have this you really listen to
39:56
the same records have the same comedy influences it,
39:58
You know, It it makes
40:01
it easier Cubs you have this this
40:03
background the you know everybody's talking to
40:05
someone. we are together. let me know
40:07
when we like the same people. listen
40:10
to the movie yom encyclopedic about them
40:12
long lost brother says Ripper and Seventy
40:14
One you got drop Your first Call
40:17
Me Adam self titled teaching trunk in
40:19
that have been nominated for six Grammys.
40:21
He took home one arm. Do you
40:24
think that Art of Comedy is has
40:26
kind of lost. Know
40:28
Nile Six I think of as if
40:30
I'm from an album standpoint. O L
40:32
was a yeah problem. Albums yeah I'm
40:35
the last. Decision is in general there
40:37
is kicked off. Know as soon as
40:39
you instead were hour and half album
40:41
you got twelve second bit. Different.
40:44
Than what it is that for her
40:46
visit. Funny too because the one time
40:48
he the singles had to be under
40:51
two minutes and then macarthur park come
40:53
along and like a twelve minute bitter
40:55
some and that that changed it. It
40:58
but now inside Tic Toc nor
41:00
albums of people Bring albums. the
41:02
little the little know I say
41:05
your entire might have a about
41:07
your son. Was
41:09
Danny were in front of. I
41:11
bought this old console a record
41:13
player that you could pick up
41:15
for not been sitting there. Whatever.
41:17
scissors useless as large as your
41:19
homework, The who they are laid
41:21
a meeting, Canada and myself standing
41:23
there with album looking for a
41:25
slight to stick it in a
41:27
Cd he didn't know how to
41:29
worship. Yeah, earth of funny Reddit.
41:31
What's the backstory of Basketball Jones?
41:34
Hours. Out to the that was, we're
41:36
on our way to the Laker game.
41:40
You. Know and you tell it. The.
41:42
You do it. Because. To do want
41:44
to tell. Yeah, ok cool. Tell it. Were.
41:47
Underway to solicit. always
41:50
he does believe the have we should
41:52
i say ah success and were always
41:55
of our or even when he believes
41:57
it then he'll steal it So
42:01
we're on our way to the Laker game and
42:04
Cheech is in the
42:06
back seat. I'm in the
42:09
passenger side. Nicholson is
42:11
driving. Jack Nicholson. And
42:13
we're late getting there
42:16
of course. And so Jack drives
42:19
on the wrong way on
42:21
Manchester Avenue for about three
42:23
miles on the
42:26
wrong way. And I teach us
42:28
in the back singing, I got basketball Jones.
42:31
I got a basketball Jones. There
42:33
was this record album called Love Jones
42:35
out. And Cheech
42:38
is singing, basketball Jones. I got
42:40
basketball. And it just stuck in
42:42
my mind. Ah, that's funny. We
42:44
got to record that show. So
42:48
we did the next day. We
42:50
went in there recording it. That's the great
42:52
thing about record industry in those days. I
42:55
mean, you make a movie, it takes forever to
42:57
make it. And then it takes forever before it comes
42:59
out in the record industry. You go in the studio
43:01
and it could be on the air the next day.
43:03
We were. So it was like fast, you
43:06
know, so you could really describe
43:09
what was going on in the scene around
43:11
you. And that's what made it so fresh. You
43:14
know, so that was, that was, I
43:16
miss records. And we used to play
43:18
basketball, you know, at Pickup Games. So they're right.
43:20
We played at UCLA one time. Oh yeah, that's
43:22
what we went to UCLA. Did you? Yeah.
43:26
And that was always when it came out. They
43:28
had this one game where they had, it was
43:30
a charity game where they had all the UCLA
43:33
guys that had gone on to the pros with
43:35
celebrities and they split them in half, you know,
43:37
half of the stars and in for Aunt
43:39
Polly and Marvin Gaye. Marvin Gaye.
43:41
Marvin Gaye played with us. Yeah.
43:43
He was the most guaranteed. He
43:46
looked, he said, you're looking at him. He said,
43:48
who was good back then? Who didn't really play?
43:50
They used to call me Wilton Stump. When
43:53
We were touring, we... The
44:00
around to the way of see a
44:02
gonna be like alive i'm a man
44:04
and we got some of the best
44:06
comedy there were other they can replace
44:08
a couple a ghetto guys you know
44:10
and lose one brothers tell me done
44:12
any saunders finger up when and is
44:14
partly goes what the for several. Years
44:17
later with that we've analyzed. We gotta
44:20
play that game. I'll have a sister.
44:22
Sister is out A lot of lives
44:24
we've like. they're Zola. Back to Jack
44:26
Nicholson. Driving down the wrong way on
44:28
Manchester, head into the. Form that ended
44:31
safely apparently Officer know so travel Z
44:33
r Mr. Nicholls A. My retinas were
44:35
selected live alongside on our streets. Oh
44:37
no news is that what? What what?
44:39
What was the for like back in
44:41
the day Because we hadn't we've had
44:43
magic on here. We were hoping to
44:45
get curry but we've heard legendary stories
44:48
about that that the club inside the
44:50
form and all games and with cheerleaders
44:52
our with the we're seeing Jerry Buss
44:54
the owner. He. Was one
44:56
of the people with whom and he
44:58
never had a box from the and
45:00
seats with the people of new site
45:02
of what we did see what is
45:04
it would juri but now me see
45:06
the game the Ss we had we
45:08
have forceful seats are dizzy also times
45:10
you know if it wasn't the was
45:12
on the court but the next and
45:14
then another was an island when we
45:16
had those seats for a long time
45:18
and although blink was were buds of
45:20
really nails and widow my her i
45:22
had a friend that had seat said
45:24
of the clippers and. Will do. They
45:28
know they pry. Nothing in the high
45:30
school drives a voice have been like
45:32
this is has ended and and a
45:34
ringside with her and Charles Barclay was
45:36
of the other guy. And
45:38
I saw that. Barkley.
45:40
Could be good effect as if the if
45:42
you are heckle him. But you
45:44
gotta heckle him properly in the way the heck
45:46
of them says you. Talk
45:49
new normal voice. Because he
45:51
can hear everything and some sitting there
45:53
and see what sparkly. Watch. Him. He's.
45:56
Ball Hog. he won't pass up
45:58
on comes to And the
46:00
next thing you know And
46:06
I do it in such a way that I wouldn't be
46:08
looking at him I'd be just talking What
46:35
were the comedy scene like in LA as you
46:37
guys are you know climbing climbing the ladder It
46:40
was bubbling there was a lot of communities out
46:42
there, you know, cuz there were these These
46:44
comedy clubs started appearing you were in one
46:46
of the very first one It was like round
46:49
right on Sunset Strip and and
46:51
all tiny little rooms But there was a
46:53
ton of comedians out there man everybody, but
46:56
we were the only kind of hippie Talking
46:59
about weed or what it was going on the
47:01
scene. So we were unique in that sense
47:03
There's a place on Sunset called Canopos
47:05
Yeah And it was written it
47:07
was a steakhouse and the only
47:10
the kid the father the
47:12
son of the owner Decided he wanted to
47:14
get in the comedy and so he got
47:17
a microphone up in the steakhouse and he
47:20
had they had an upstairs where you could use
47:22
his address room and so he'd have like a
47:26
About six years seven comedians and
47:29
so we joined the group But
47:32
when we did a bit called the dogs now
47:34
to forget this is a steakhouse and
47:36
the dogs were I'm We're
47:39
smelling each other's but and
47:41
it was so funny and so shocking,
47:43
but it's still a steakhouse The
47:46
waitresses would get embarrassed. They would run
47:48
outside when we did the bit It
47:52
was so rank right back we
47:54
got paid 50 quid in London
47:56
not to do the bit Do
48:00
it not do it ever was the
48:02
judge is Ronnie Scott Ronnie Scott. It's
48:04
good. You see hit boys great show
48:07
Here's 50 quit don't do that bit Don't
48:11
leave that one out. I mean
48:13
you guys were against the grain from a standpoint
48:15
of cannabis and
48:17
in movies in Your
48:19
bits and your stand-up was there pushback at
48:21
all or it was fucking I mean you
48:24
guys are doing motion pictures Why would you
48:26
need in the 70s? I went to jail
48:28
for it through nine months off that bit
48:30
of a push-up pushback. Yeah
48:33
That might be in Chong Everybody
48:36
else got house arrest. Uh-huh. So I had the
48:38
good sense not to be Chong. Uh-huh. You were
48:40
the other Yeah, teach
48:42
you but no what we attacked
48:45
more than anything right from the
48:47
get-go was racism That's
48:50
what we attacked. We changed the conception
48:52
of Chicano's
48:54
with the with the headband, you
48:56
know being the game the headband
48:58
the gang guys Yeah, and and
49:01
we did it purposely like my character
49:03
in up in smoke was a rich
49:05
Jewish kid You know and
49:08
and here I am, you know Rich
49:15
What was a rich Chinese kid What was
49:17
what was your cousin's name in that movie
49:19
that you went to the house red? Yeah,
49:22
yeah The Wayne
49:24
Mendoza. Yeah Mission
49:28
to find some tree. Yeah Tom's
49:32
carrot. Yeah. Yeah, that
49:34
was Tom's current. No, I was
49:36
I was red. Oh In
49:39
no no or the other
49:41
character. No the next movie. Yeah. No, what was
49:43
it strawberry? What was it? Strawberry
49:46
strawberry Tom scared. Yeah. Yeah
49:48
strawberry was yeah He's
49:51
still alive. He's 90 Just
49:57
gotta get my Joe
50:01
legal crack which I remember Bob Pee-wee
50:03
Herman We
50:08
Herman He was a
50:10
member of a group called the groundlings, which was
50:13
a very first Improv group
50:15
in LA still here. Yeah, they're still there
50:17
I mean and everybody came out of the
50:19
groundlings and so we we saw them and
50:21
kind of raided the whole company and put
50:23
them in our movies Pee-wee Herman Edie McClurg
50:27
Phil Hartman all those guys And
50:30
it was because they knew how to play improv.
50:33
They were jazz musicians and
50:35
comedy And so we got along great
50:37
and Pee-wee was great He
50:40
had that character right from the beginning always
50:42
always interesting That wasn't the only thing he
50:44
did but he had that character in the
50:46
beginning We just okay. Well put that character
50:49
here and be the clerk in the office
50:51
or be the guy in Uh-huh, you know,
50:54
so worked out really well. He was
50:56
funny guy How easy was it in
50:58
copper rain cannabis into your movies and
51:01
to everything? it
51:03
was We got away with it
51:05
because it was over before
51:07
anybody could do anything You
51:12
know In and
51:14
out we never really smoked We
51:16
never broke any laws. Yeah, did you guys really
51:18
smoke weed in the movies though? In
51:21
between takes okay, so wasn't any of the
51:24
real stuff was Indian no
51:26
we couldn't But
51:32
we we could smoke before the take
51:35
and sometimes they'd say okay We're
51:38
rolling and we'd be yeah, we're
51:40
rolling too and so we Missed
51:44
the cue and their runt and back
51:46
in the day was film right? And
51:48
so they were wasting all this money
51:51
on film and there are you guys
51:53
ready? Oh Yeah,
51:55
okay. Oh, then we'd wake up and do the
51:57
shot how much would be ad-libbing and how much?
51:59
be script once you guys kind of start going.
52:01
But we'd ad lib on the script. Put your
52:03
touch on it. Because
52:07
the scene in the car, we did
52:09
that every night on stage. But
52:11
there was stuff that we did for the film that
52:13
we never did before. And it was only captured because
52:15
we were doing it on film. But
52:18
we would improvise all those parts. It's
52:20
like taking I want to play my
52:22
funny Valentine, but
52:25
Miles Davis plays a different
52:27
business. And
52:29
all the actors that we had were phenomenal
52:32
writers as well. Like
52:35
Stacy Keach, Sargent Stedanko.
52:38
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52:41
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52:43
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55:59
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56:01
Up in Smokey turned a small budget into
56:03
44 million and two more films. This is
56:06
Y'all Was Born. Really? That's
56:08
how long y'all been smoking.
56:11
And that's how much money they said they made. Yeah. Right,
56:14
right. They even asked for money. They really
56:16
made? Right, right, right. That's crazy to think.
56:19
Woo. You put on a lot of
56:21
people. What does the trilogy rank in your eyes? Up
56:23
in Smoke definitely. I like
56:26
Next Movie too. It's actually a
56:28
funnier movie. Yeah. You know, Laugh
56:30
for Laugh. And what's one you
56:32
like? Still Smoking. Still Smoking. Still Smoking.
56:34
Still Smoking has all our old bits
56:37
that we never got around to shoot
56:39
a movie about. Yeah. And
56:41
so we put them in there and we knew that we wouldn't be
56:43
doing those bits anymore. So like
56:45
the Invisible Rastler and all those
56:48
great bits, man. They're
56:50
classic. You mentioned going to
56:52
jail. Were you in jail with Jordan Belford? Yeah. Talk
56:55
to us about just you guys back
56:57
and forth and kind of friendship and how that kind of
56:59
turned into... Well, he wouldn't preach
57:01
kiss right away. It took a while. It
57:06
took a while. It took a while. It's just
57:08
lamb, man. No,
57:14
he was great, man. It
57:16
was the other prisoners that had problems with
57:18
him. I had
57:20
no problem with him. It wasn't anybody. I was a
57:22
celebrity. So I was
57:24
like, Jesus walking around. I
57:29
had everybody. The warden,
57:31
one time we shot a podcast
57:36
for the documentary and we were
57:38
using the warden's office in
57:40
the main building. But you
57:43
know how movies are. You know, you're the king. So
57:46
they were setting up and I could hear the warden and
57:48
them walking around in the other room. So
57:51
I yelled, hey, quiet in the back. We're
57:53
shooting in here. And everybody
57:57
got all quiet and tippy too. And here's a
57:59
warden. Tippie doing around for no
58:01
reason, man. He knows just that.
58:04
Here's one of his
58:07
con men in there telling him,
58:09
fucking with him. I'm running shit now. Yeah.
58:12
Being at both of you guys are basically trendsetters
58:15
in the stoner comedy space, but it's
58:17
just really comedy. Do
58:19
y'all get offended when people say
58:22
stoner comedy? And did it affect
58:25
our relationship with being in the face? So many
58:27
people judging y'all and saying different things could ever
58:29
affect our relationship? No.
58:33
Not really. I mean, I
58:36
couldn't get into Disneyland one time because
58:38
I had a t-shirt that was obscene,
58:41
you know, and I held a grudge for a
58:43
while. And in fact, when I got offered
58:45
to do with Lion King, I said, no. I
58:50
missed over it. Brilliant move there.
58:52
Yeah. Right. Hey,
58:56
Tuppie, since check I got from life. Holy
58:58
Jesus. But
59:01
the racism, I realized
59:04
myself, you know, over the years, I
59:07
was really brought up as
59:09
a white supremacist. Seriously.
59:13
I had all my friends from
59:15
the country. And even
59:17
though I found out
59:19
now that I'm part Native, I
59:24
was half Chinese originally. You know,
59:26
that's when I started out. But
59:29
not anymore. I'm more now. But
59:32
it was always racism that
59:34
we encountered. You know, that's why my brother
59:37
is three years older than me. And he
59:39
fought going to school and coming
59:41
home. And that's the way
59:43
it was back then. You know, you'd look at
59:45
the toughest guys would see each other and make
59:47
a date and go out in the back and
59:50
fight, you know. And it
59:52
was brutal, you know, coming
59:54
up like that. And
59:57
when I was a teenager, I saw...
1:00:02
the trend was to become
1:00:04
a pachuko. Pachuko
1:00:07
is a Mexican gang guy. The
1:00:09
zoot suit, you know, baggy pants.
1:00:12
Blood in, blood out. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:14
And they always had a tattoo
1:00:16
right there in the middle. Right
1:00:19
there and it was funny because
1:00:22
tattoos are like advertising for criminals,
1:00:24
you know. You'd have the
1:00:27
white supremacy tattoo. And
1:00:30
so my white supremacy tattoo, my
1:00:33
house was also used as a
1:00:36
halfway house for people getting out of jail.
1:00:38
And this one guy got out of jail. And he gave me
1:00:43
this tattoo. Wow. It's
1:00:45
a white supremacy tattoo. He didn't know it was just
1:00:47
a tattoo. He ain't got a free tattoo. I didn't
1:00:49
know it for years until those on
1:00:51
TV. You were in jail. No,
1:00:56
the guy told you. No, it wasn't down.
1:00:58
It was on TV. It was on TV?
1:01:00
Oh really? On television. And the guy looked
1:01:02
at me, biker. He goes, that's a white
1:01:05
supremacy tattoo. Really? Oh shit. But
1:01:10
it was free. No, but I put
1:01:12
it up here. It's a homemade needle.
1:01:14
Take a needle, put them
1:01:17
together over a pencil and stick it in
1:01:19
India ink and then jab. That's
1:01:21
a good way to stay healthy. That's
1:01:23
what that's what you have. That's it hurt down there. So
1:01:26
I was going to get it covered
1:01:28
up, you know, change everything. And my
1:01:30
son, Paris, no, dad, that's OG. That's
1:01:32
art. Because one wing is bigger than
1:01:34
the other. What
1:01:38
year was that? What years you get that tattoo? That
1:01:41
had to be 50, probably 55, 56. That
1:01:47
was 20 years before you were born. It was 23 actually. Yeah.
1:01:50
A little bit of time. In the 50s. All
1:01:55
done. Yeah. Yeah, I've
1:01:57
seen a lot. Movies
1:02:00
like Friday, Half Baked, Harrow
1:02:03
and Kumar, all co-classics.
1:02:07
You have to feel like y'all pioneers in it. Well,
1:02:09
of course. Yeah, I did. Yeah. Of
1:02:11
course. And all those guys come up to us and
1:02:13
tell us that. Yeah. Everybody was in every one of
1:02:15
those movies. Chris Tucker, I
1:02:17
met him on the... ...all that. We used to
1:02:19
do these guys all the time. We
1:02:25
were big in the Black community always. Yes.
1:02:27
Because we grew up in the Black community.
1:02:30
You know, and other communities, but
1:02:33
Black people really related to us. It wasn't
1:02:35
just because of the weed, it's because we
1:02:37
played that kind of music. And the struggle
1:02:39
too. And the struggle y'all would do. Yeah.
1:02:41
And growing up in Calgary, it was really
1:02:43
hard to be around Black people. Because
1:02:46
there weren't none. There
1:02:53
were like five families. And
1:02:56
I swear to God, you know. And then
1:02:59
when I started dancing
1:03:01
to Lindy Hop, and of
1:03:03
course my partner became this really good
1:03:06
dancer, Black girl. And she was the one
1:03:08
that introduced me to the football player, Tommy. And
1:03:12
then we had a show one time where Tommy
1:03:14
heard we dance and we'd play music. And we
1:03:16
did a floor show with that. So
1:03:19
my introduction was more like
1:03:22
schooling. Because it
1:03:24
wasn't just... I knew I had Black friends.
1:03:26
I had a man. I
1:03:30
got to the point where I got my
1:03:32
own racist name. Hey
1:03:34
Chinaman. That's
1:03:38
what Bob Marley said. That's what Bob
1:03:40
Marley said. Bob Marley? Yeah. It was in
1:03:42
a dressing room with a smoke filled. And
1:03:45
all of a sudden I hear, hey Chinaman,
1:03:47
say something funny, man. Bob
1:03:51
said that on one of his friends. No,
1:03:53
it was Bobby. Bob said it. Hey,
1:03:55
bye Chinaman, say something funny. No,
1:04:01
you stay on your own deals. No,
1:04:04
but everybody else. No,
1:04:07
we had, we had no, I got, you
1:04:10
know, I earned my, my, uh, your
1:04:12
stripes, my, my
1:04:15
prison sentence. I earned it, man. You know,
1:04:17
I went through it and that's why Motown,
1:04:20
you know, when I see Smokey, now Smokey
1:04:22
gives me big hugs, man. Cause he knows
1:04:24
that I was in that secret songwriting
1:04:27
little cadre that they
1:04:30
have, you know, and I got in
1:04:32
there, you know, when you get one of them
1:04:34
Motown stars to record your song,
1:04:37
you know, everybody recorded it. There's
1:04:39
Diana Ross, the Jermaine Jackson, Stephanie
1:04:41
Mills, the Harlettes. You know
1:04:44
who the Harlettes are? The, they were the backing group
1:04:46
for Bette Midler, Bette Midler and
1:04:48
the Harlettes. And in that group was,
1:04:50
uh, uh, uh, Katie,
1:04:53
Katie Seagal, Katie Seagal
1:04:55
from Marywood children,
1:04:57
uh, Linda Hart, who was costar
1:04:59
was my girlfriend and 10 cup
1:05:02
and the some, uh, Norwegian or a
1:05:04
Swedish girl, but they recorded and had
1:05:06
a hit. Does your mama know
1:05:08
about me too? You
1:05:10
guys obviously came out the gates with the, once you
1:05:13
connected with a lot of success, you guys parted ways
1:05:15
for a while. We don't have to get into that
1:05:17
part, but while I want to ask you guys as,
1:05:19
as being able to come back together, what did you
1:05:21
learn about yourself, um, during
1:05:23
your guys' time apart? Well,
1:05:27
you can't make it in California. The
1:05:30
Klan, it goes
1:05:32
everywhere. Yeah. No,
1:05:35
I, uh, I
1:05:37
appreciate the fact that we
1:05:39
broke up long enough so
1:05:41
that we could become individuals, you
1:05:44
know, instead of just being,
1:05:47
you know, relying on someone
1:05:49
there that's always there, you
1:05:51
know, this way you have to do both
1:05:53
parts yourself more or less. And,
1:05:55
uh, I, I, I, I appreciate that and
1:05:58
I, and I respect it too. I
1:06:00
respect the, the,
1:06:03
the aloneness. Yeah. Being, being able to stand on
1:06:06
your own, on your own, then come back together.
1:06:08
It just makes you strong. It makes both of
1:06:10
you strong. It's like we, you know, when we
1:06:12
came back together, it was like we never left.
1:06:14
I mean, it was like, it said,
1:06:16
come down here and join me in this club in La Jolla.
1:06:18
They were, you and Sylvia were doing a club and
1:06:21
I said, come on and just
1:06:23
sit in with us, okay. So
1:06:25
they go on stage, they start to then, and then, then
1:06:27
they, I don't know if you even announced it. And I
1:06:29
just came to the audience and
1:06:31
got on. I don't remember. I know they went crazy. God
1:06:34
said, and we never
1:06:36
rehearsed, never even talked about it. That was your guys first
1:06:38
time back together. Yeah. Wow. In 20 years. And,
1:06:41
and then just tilled at nine,
1:06:43
you know, so it's okay. Like
1:06:45
you never left. Like we never left. I read it
1:06:48
times you guys would, you don't kind of have some
1:06:50
conflict off the stage, but when you came together for
1:06:52
your acting, it was like, who would, no one would
1:06:54
ever know. Yeah. And what do you guys attribute that
1:06:56
to? Just your willingness to get the job done or.
1:06:59
Greed. Greed.
1:07:02
Greed. I indulged. My son said, you
1:07:05
know, you're doing fine dad, but you know what
1:07:07
you could make of Cheech and Chong were back
1:07:09
there. And
1:07:12
so my son actually got us back together. We
1:07:14
had a meeting and it didn't go that
1:07:16
well. You know, we had our old argument
1:07:18
came out, but then I, I text Cheech
1:07:21
and I said, you know, it was nice seeing, hadn't
1:07:23
seen you for a while. It was really nice seeing
1:07:25
you. You know, too bad we couldn't work
1:07:27
things out. Well, my son intercepted
1:07:30
my email and he wrote
1:07:32
his own in my book.
1:07:34
Please don't do anything, anything.
1:07:38
Hey, let's get together and we can do this
1:07:40
and that and everything else. Really? So then my
1:07:42
son told me, he says,
1:07:44
first of all, he says, how did it go with Cheech? I said,
1:07:46
oh, he's not so well. He says, he's
1:07:48
coming over. You're back together. It's
1:07:52
happening. I said, what? Then he
1:07:54
told me what he did. I got your
1:07:56
email. And I'm glad he
1:07:58
did. World says thank
1:08:00
you. Yeah. Yeah, I've got a hold of
1:08:02
my emails one time and did some things
1:08:05
you shouldn't have did Luckily
1:08:08
your guys have worked out in a different way I've
1:08:14
heard those stories we should talk before
1:08:16
they roll the film then we sometimes
1:08:18
the movies would be talking Hey,
1:08:20
you really got the camera rolling here Daily
1:08:27
Funny uh stigmas throughout over the
1:08:29
years about cannabis and and
1:08:32
how do you feel of the progress? over
1:08:34
the last few decades It's
1:08:37
you know, it's everyday use. I mean
1:08:39
see this which is more popular bear
1:08:41
weed Weed
1:08:44
weed, you know, I mean it's I It
1:08:48
crosses every single line and
1:08:50
race gender
1:08:53
Anything old young I mean, you know,
1:08:55
there's guys that are hundred
1:08:58
years old still smoking weed, you know, so
1:09:01
It just it just enters into every
1:09:03
and and the fact that does
1:09:05
changes your perception. Well, it's it's Yeah,
1:09:08
it's a burning bush. Yeah a good path 100
1:09:10
years this month. You're on a good path for
1:09:12
that Yeah, it's a Bernie Bush that is
1:09:14
mentioned in the Bible You
1:09:17
know when Moses took a hit of the
1:09:19
burning burning bush and God talked to
1:09:21
him and God said hey,
1:09:23
Mo Yo Yo,
1:09:25
move past that suit This
1:09:29
buds for Jews And
1:09:42
that's how it got in the Bible Well,
1:09:46
the Bible was written on a hand paper, yeah
1:09:50
All the signs were there and it
1:09:52
was medicine four thousand years ago And
1:09:55
it's medicine now still man. You never stopped being
1:09:57
med do any of you guys still consumed? Well,
1:10:00
yeah, I do. Yeah, so I
1:10:02
was my job now so after we can consume
1:10:05
together Oh, yeah, so I can I just wanted
1:10:07
to gotta stop Blaze
1:10:09
one up with cheeky chomp. Yeah Even
1:10:12
if we just blow the smoke on you Blow
1:10:16
it up his butt One
1:10:23
question the strength of
1:10:25
the plant from when you guys first started getting used
1:10:27
to be hard to kind of come across a good
1:10:29
Weed back then obviously you guys always had
1:10:32
it now you guys kept it all I said Mexican
1:10:34
weed man But
1:10:36
the strength from then to now It's
1:10:38
much stronger. Yeah, I mean much stronger because they're
1:10:40
breeding it for the right Yeah, you know, they
1:10:42
didn't weed was weed you get a brick like
1:10:45
that with a rat in the middle Well,
1:10:50
we specially bred this No,
1:10:53
you got whatever it was in there But
1:10:56
now there's specifically blending
1:10:58
it for raising Do
1:11:00
you like some of the strong stuff? Oh, yeah Because
1:11:03
you don't take as much. Yeah, when the
1:11:06
last time you bought weed Was
1:11:11
in my youth I bought weed 2016
1:11:16
because it was a little vendor
1:11:18
thing and you put money in and That's
1:11:25
the only time I've ever bought
1:11:27
I can remember I got a
1:11:29
friend now he's grow freak, you
1:11:31
know Case
1:11:35
Stacy Keats his brother James
1:11:39
James Keats, he's he's crazy
1:11:41
about growing everything And
1:11:43
so he give him some marijuana seeds and
1:11:45
here put this in your garden and
1:11:47
see what happens He's growing
1:11:49
the best weed. Oh, really
1:11:52
Malibu And then James
1:11:54
says yeah, I give it to my friends and keep
1:11:56
coming back for more. I think the
1:11:58
best don't feed him Then they'll stay away Right
1:12:00
because of the climate. I don't know what it
1:12:02
is, but it's like John Michael Vincent You know
1:12:04
who it is actor so he was my buddy
1:12:06
and he comes over one day and he has
1:12:08
these two plants He said I'm going over a
1:12:11
hundred plants over here in my place and so
1:12:13
I don't give you to Put
1:12:16
him over there outside on the tree and
1:12:18
I went on tour The
1:12:20
next day here in the couple days later
1:12:22
He got gets raided and they
1:12:24
got all the plants and so these are the
1:12:27
only twos that have survived and I didn't
1:12:29
do Anything to them. I just
1:12:31
put them in pots in
1:12:33
the ground and I can went on tour and
1:12:35
I came back They had grown through the bottom
1:12:37
of the pots and now they were eight feet
1:12:39
tall and colas on them that that long man
1:12:43
And it was like seaside since me that's what we call
1:12:45
this With
1:12:55
a swimming pool and So
1:12:58
I but I didn't do anything that none talk to
1:13:00
you do it, you know, not even water So
1:13:04
wow. Yeah So when
1:13:06
I have a little fun with this next segment feel
1:13:09
free to just Blurt out you at
1:13:11
the highest you've ever been. Do you remember where you were
1:13:13
who was around? Do
1:13:22
a show but the matters your way Definitely.
1:13:24
All right. The matters your wife. I like
1:13:26
that Hmm
1:13:29
the birth Your
1:13:32
birthday 70 is birthday
1:13:34
when I turned 70. Yeah We
1:13:38
had my son took care of
1:13:40
the dessert and he had it
1:13:42
all medicated but he didn't tell anybody Oh shit,
1:13:45
that's fucking and we never served enough food So
1:13:48
when the dessert came every was
1:13:50
starving And so
1:13:52
everybody dove into the edibles
1:13:56
And next thing you know, they're people
1:13:58
throwing up all over the place and
1:14:01
they couldn't figure out what's going on.
1:14:03
I have the burmese, too, you know.
1:14:06
Oh, it was just crazy. Paul
1:14:10
Reiser and his wife were there. Next
1:14:13
thing you know, Paris
1:14:16
is my son's ex-girlfriend, kind
1:14:19
of wild young chick. She's in there
1:14:22
promoting a threesome with Paul and his wife.
1:14:24
And they're going for it. She's
1:14:27
going good. Everybody's going for
1:14:29
it. It's so crazy if
1:14:32
we're passing out. Oh,
1:14:34
it was fun. Wow.
1:14:38
It's going to be a biopic. We're going
1:14:40
to do a movie about it. I
1:14:42
love it. Because that's what, from now
1:14:44
on, after we release our documentary, it'll
1:14:47
be biopics. And we'll go back
1:14:49
and teach this history, my history, right
1:14:53
back to the Aztecs and the Africans,
1:14:55
you know. If you guys ever need
1:14:57
a great guy right here, my guy,
1:14:59
Deion Taylor, this is his office. But
1:15:02
if he makes movies, he makes the best movies. Oh, yeah.
1:15:05
If you need some help. I
1:15:07
need to stone a brother in the movie. I'm ready.
1:15:10
I'm ready. I'll be the stone a
1:15:12
brother in the movie. I'm ready. You can be tall
1:15:14
back in the day. You got holes
1:15:16
in the knees, though. That's the only problem. I got holes
1:15:18
in the face. Right here. Remember, you used to have the
1:15:21
holes in right here. Who
1:15:23
would want to smoke off back in
1:15:25
your heyday? When you guys are in your heyday,
1:15:27
between you guys, Snoop, Willie
1:15:30
Nelson, Wiz Khalifa, be
1:15:32
real. Who would we
1:15:34
want to? No, who would smoke off?
1:15:38
Oh, who? When you guys are in your heyday. What
1:15:40
do you think? Oh, Willie. Neither
1:15:42
one of us were. No. It was
1:15:44
all an act, man. All an act. I
1:15:48
swear to God, man. It
1:15:50
was all an act. I got a
1:15:52
little breath mint that I do
1:15:54
now. It's only 10 milligrams. Tell
1:15:56
me about that, man. You
1:15:58
know? And that'll... Like
1:16:00
a mortal put my ass in But
1:16:04
even back in you guys younger days, it
1:16:06
wasn't about the clock
1:16:08
the quantity was about the
1:16:10
quality. Yeah Because
1:16:12
people give us stuff all the time. Yeah, that's
1:16:15
why I've never bought any weed in these
1:16:17
years That's like mountains of it. Where do
1:16:20
you go? And we're musicians back then and
1:16:22
musicians You
1:16:24
never bought people would either give it to
1:16:26
you or Any next to the guy that
1:16:28
had it, you know waiting for your turn
1:16:33
And back in the day They
1:16:36
used to make what they called
1:16:38
pinners. Mm-hmm. It was
1:16:40
a marijuana dust and
1:16:43
you Broke in the tiniest
1:16:45
little pinner and but it would be
1:16:47
good for Musicians because you didn't
1:16:49
get to stone fucked up, you know, you just get
1:16:52
that little buzz and a lot of memory because that's
1:16:54
all you need remember
1:16:57
Pamorita used to keep that little folding
1:16:59
pipe in this underwear. Yeah one hitter.
1:17:01
Yeah, there was a little pipe and
1:17:03
it had Pamorita, you know, I've
1:17:05
heard the name after mr. Miyagi The
1:17:11
hip nip that was his Japanese
1:17:15
Maybe what used to flood not to cut you off
1:17:17
what you fly back then like what you can say
1:17:19
and what you can Somebody has evolved into like you
1:17:21
can't really say anything right now I've
1:17:25
heard his red boy boy red pot Pat
1:17:29
marina. Yeah. Yeah They
1:17:32
were all in that same thing. What red
1:17:34
red give him money. Yeah And
1:17:42
he was kind of a mentor a little bit You
1:17:44
know when we first met him to us because he
1:17:46
was a professional comedian at the time He
1:17:48
did something to me that I'll never forget
1:17:50
man the night before
1:17:53
I'm going into jail I
1:17:55
just finished talking to my lawyer who actually
1:17:59
told me I can't talk now I'm watching the
1:18:01
Laker game and he hung up on me. Next
1:18:04
thing I know I get a call phone rings I
1:18:07
pick it up it's Pat Morita and
1:18:10
he's Mr. Magala. Magyagi.
1:18:12
Magyagi, yeah. Magyagi, yeah. And
1:18:15
he says you're gonna be okay, you're gonna be fine, you
1:18:18
know, just take it, do what you
1:18:20
gotta do, you know. And he just gave
1:18:22
me the, it was. A little pep talk.
1:18:24
Serendipity. Yeah, I knew at the time it
1:18:26
was gonna be okay in jail too. I mean I knew
1:18:28
it was gonna be fine because he grew up with those
1:18:31
people. I mean so did I, my
1:18:33
dad was a cop man so I grew up with
1:18:35
those juvenile delinquents, you know. So you know how to
1:18:37
navigate. Well we were in jail together one time. Yeah.
1:18:40
Really? In Tampa. Tell
1:18:43
us about it. Well okay. They busted
1:18:45
Jim Morrison earlier because he
1:18:47
showed his wiener on stage, you know.
1:18:50
And so they, and it got
1:18:53
dropped for lack of evidence by the way. Yeah,
1:18:57
that was a good one. And
1:19:01
so they came up with a
1:19:03
$5,000 performance bond. And
1:19:05
if we got any trouble on
1:19:07
stage at all the promoter got $5,000. And
1:19:11
so Chichin Chong they thought for sure they're
1:19:13
gonna grab some money. And so
1:19:15
we did our whole show, no problem. Except
1:19:18
at the end and the cops were lining
1:19:20
the stage as if they
1:19:22
were, the crowd was gonna riot or something, you
1:19:24
know. Standing in front of the stage. And so
1:19:26
we're doing the dogs and Chichin's on his hands
1:19:28
and knees and he walks over to one of
1:19:30
the cops that were facing away from him and
1:19:33
picked the cops hat up with his teeth
1:19:36
like a dog and goes running back. Well
1:19:39
the cop did not think that was
1:19:41
funny. And
1:19:44
so they're on the phone saying we're gonna, we're
1:19:46
busting Chichin Chong. And then all the cops started
1:19:48
saying hey I want to bust him, I got
1:19:50
all their records. Right. Right.
1:19:52
Let me be a part of this. So
1:19:54
they ended up taking us to jail. Yep.
1:19:57
And at first, you know, we're still off the show. happy
1:20:00
and after a while we're sitting there
1:20:03
with all these other people man they kept
1:20:05
dragging people into the hole in cell unconscious
1:20:07
and the dragon mountain for drunk the highs
1:20:10
start coming down oh yeah and then they
1:20:18
separated us at first
1:20:21
teachers being funny guy
1:20:23
blonde cop you know we got
1:20:26
it goes oh jail tendie oh
1:20:29
jail tendie could we have some
1:20:31
pink toilet tissue and
1:20:35
then next thing you know the guy
1:20:37
the sale gel tendie comes up to
1:20:39
teach you the you come with me
1:20:43
and all I heard she's saying my
1:20:46
dad's a cop you know got
1:20:48
that out you get in the elevator they're
1:20:50
gonna take up the second Florida put you
1:20:52
in the cell and you get in the
1:20:54
elevator it's like you know metal the whole
1:20:56
thing and there's big dance all over this
1:20:58
fucking thing man but on every wall and
1:21:00
that this guy's looking at me and
1:21:04
you get up to the second floor and it's noisy and
1:21:07
it's hot and it's fully lit
1:21:10
and and everybody's okay here we go
1:21:12
don't put me in the lying
1:21:14
cage yeah real yeah awful quick you
1:21:19
guys kind of crossing so many barriers on
1:21:22
your rise to fame who are some people
1:21:24
that you thought like damn I'm smoking with
1:21:27
obviously they probably thought that about you guys but were
1:21:29
you guys in awe of anybody you know you just
1:21:31
told a quick Bob Marley story but anyways you guys
1:21:33
were in awe of and you guys got a chance
1:21:35
to sit down I used to smoke up with George
1:21:37
Harrison all the time George Harrison
1:21:40
out Wow George yeah George
1:21:42
cool guy I one
1:21:45
day I'm smoking when we're smoking and you
1:21:47
know the joint gets passed over to
1:21:50
Tony Dow you know Tony leave it to
1:21:52
be me with the beep Why
1:21:56
was Wally Yeah and he turned out
1:21:58
to be a. The
1:22:00
decor and sculptor is an artist
1:22:02
you know and so the three
1:22:04
of us were there smuggling why
1:22:07
we got a George played the
1:22:09
on no avail. last. What's.
1:22:13
To did George Harrison play. On
1:22:15
are nice A Basketball Jones basketball don't
1:22:17
gentle Turnbull basketball do I use the
1:22:19
gully join are very dangerous the up
1:22:21
because he was in the studio say
1:22:23
don't we were and so a George
1:22:26
do the intro you know right and
1:22:28
and they said the do you think
1:22:30
they're from teaching so in the will
1:22:32
disable someone said would you think teaching
1:22:34
chong enjoys his I supposed to funny
1:22:36
as yesterday I said if if if
1:22:38
if this my for your guy was
1:22:40
Karim a moon lung and that as
1:22:42
with is the south are days. Yeah
1:22:44
right on N N n the of
1:22:46
my wife and i reckon we we
1:22:49
lived in his house when i was
1:22:51
mint making up in smoke oh really
1:22:53
didn't want to go out and eat
1:22:55
everyday element in my calls are so
1:22:57
he he be removed as into his
1:22:59
guest house with their and when he
1:23:01
was always been a friend and can
1:23:04
butter the a long reach a bakery
1:23:06
able that with everything of the dharma
1:23:08
grabbed his mum morocco restless and a
1:23:10
brainless food a whole chicken and he
1:23:12
reaches over the whole and grabs. A
1:23:14
whole chicken looks like that at this address.
1:23:16
Okay dining room. which is he that business
1:23:18
was out of. My
1:23:21
what he doesn't eat Nice really
1:23:23
is very hard intelligent but we
1:23:25
would exchange ah we'd if we
1:23:27
had different weed and then they
1:23:30
attacked. The. Day that
1:23:32
Elvis Presley died. I
1:23:34
got a call from Korean almost the same
1:23:36
time on Much and T V Elvis is
1:23:39
dead. Cream says hey man, come on down
1:23:41
I got some weed. And
1:23:43
so I walk down. Has lived on the
1:23:45
street from of I Don't I got to
1:23:47
the. To. The mailbox.
1:23:50
In a went to ring the bell in
1:23:52
the mailbox split opened up. And.
1:23:54
as big had colored supposed
1:23:57
to reassess at the fat
1:23:59
i am And I said,
1:24:01
oh, thank you. I never saw him. You
1:24:04
even think of me. You even want
1:24:06
to give me some leaves. You got the weeds. Okay,
1:24:10
Karim. It was like lurch came out of
1:24:12
the thing. I guess you're not dressed yet.
1:24:14
Okay, I'll catch you later. I'll take this
1:24:16
back to my house. Yeah. But wasn't that
1:24:18
weird? Albus died in. Soon
1:24:21
after they were having a... Everything on
1:24:24
television was Elvis. And my
1:24:26
daughter's friend was Lisa Marie. They
1:24:29
were best friends at the time. And
1:24:31
so they're showing Elvis on TV.
1:24:33
And I'm sitting there and my precious...
1:24:36
My daughter and Lisa are playing in
1:24:38
the... Behind us. And
1:24:41
when they showed their dad, I kind of looked to see how
1:24:43
Lisa would react. That's her dad.
1:24:45
Right. She just glanced at her
1:24:47
a little bit, then gone. She
1:24:50
did not relate to that guy. Wow. It
1:24:53
was still... It was weird. So... And sad
1:24:55
too. Coming up,
1:24:57
who's your first celebrity crush? Celebrity
1:25:00
crush. Celebrity crush. Celebrity crush.
1:25:03
Wow. What do you say? Celebrity
1:25:05
crush? Crush? Who was the
1:25:07
first guy you went out with? He's thinking.
1:25:15
It makes more sense why we dress because we
1:25:17
act... You're an asshole
1:25:19
just like that. They're dressed like that. They're
1:25:24
dressed like that. They're the exact...
1:25:26
There's a reason. Celebrity crush. What
1:25:28
a guy. I don't know. Annette
1:25:31
from the Musketeers. Musketeers.
1:25:34
She's developing there. Bousketeers.
1:25:40
Mine would be Susan Sheridan. Really?
1:25:44
Yeah. Remind me of who she is.
1:25:47
Boa Durham. Boa Durham.
1:25:49
Boa Durham. Pretty Baby. Susan's
1:25:51
a real name. Atlantic City. Yeah, okay.
1:25:54
That's her real name. Yeah. The Rant...
1:25:56
Rocky Horst show. Rocky Horst show. She
1:25:58
was the original. Interesting. Yeah,
1:26:01
so I see why he didn't get your name right for a little while though,
1:26:03
right? I'm used to it One
1:26:07
of your guys's favorite snacks or
1:26:09
munchy when you guys are really on what's
1:26:12
a go-to snack I Can
1:26:14
tell you now because my used to be
1:26:16
exact rated so Like
1:26:20
ice cream ice cream I like ice cream it's bad
1:26:22
for it, but I like it what
1:26:25
do You Pistachio
1:26:28
nuts Interesting
1:26:31
because you're good for the eyes. I say healthy
1:26:33
on the healthy side. Yeah, they're good for the
1:26:35
eyes in there They're salty so that makes you
1:26:37
thirsty. So we forgot to
1:26:39
ask you about your daughter Which
1:26:42
one Ray? Are
1:26:44
you here legend? Yeah. Oh, yeah, she's
1:26:46
here she's here she's
1:26:49
having a Struggle
1:26:51
with her career now, you know a little
1:26:54
bit, you know, she hasn't worked for
1:26:56
a while But she's here
1:26:58
and she's doing well and she's happy
1:27:03
She always she's She's
1:27:06
the most talented of
1:27:08
the gang, you know It always
1:27:10
has been right from the beginning. She
1:27:13
was crazy. She used to give advice
1:27:16
at three years old What
1:27:19
did he call the girl manage, you
1:27:21
know the manage boy, yeah What
1:27:24
would be the girl? I don't know
1:27:26
the girlish man bossy bossy
1:27:33
No, she's good and her her son
1:27:35
Morgan's doing really well and Morgan
1:27:38
married Chinese girls, so I got
1:27:41
cross granted Rainbow
1:27:46
Reading beautiful. Oh, I got
1:27:48
I got a beautiful
1:27:50
beautiful family now as
1:27:53
does teach to That's
1:27:55
great. That's a phrase that this world is Who
1:27:59
do you two guys think? would benefit from smoking.
1:28:02
Oh. Smoking?
1:28:04
My mother-in-law. Bob? My
1:28:11
mother-in-law? Yeah, she,
1:28:14
because my wife
1:28:16
is Russian, born and raised, and so my
1:28:18
mother-in-law speaks no English, and blah,
1:28:21
blah, blah. And she's always honest
1:28:23
about something. And she
1:28:26
roams the refrigerator. She opens the refrigerator and
1:28:29
stands in front of her for an hour
1:28:31
and looks and sees, so whatever we're saying.
1:28:33
And so we have some edibles out there
1:28:35
in the desert, and her daughter tells them
1:28:37
to do whatever they do. Don't eat anything
1:28:39
in the refrigerator. Just ask me and I'll
1:28:41
get it for you. We come
1:28:44
one day and we're out in the desert, she's
1:28:46
in front of the refrigerator looking and chewing. At
1:28:48
the same time, she found the brownies, man,
1:28:51
and went fucking right to him. She's like
1:28:53
old and Russian and can't... And
1:28:57
so Natasha,
1:28:59
my wife, tells her what she did. I said, so what should
1:29:01
we do? She says, well, let's
1:29:04
see what happens. And
1:29:06
so she was just like, cool. So it was time
1:29:08
to drive her home. And
1:29:11
I says, wow, how
1:29:13
long is Sunset Boulevard? It's like,
1:29:16
mommy taking it every day. I'm trying to put the...
1:29:19
And so we did... After a
1:29:21
while, we told her that she
1:29:23
got this gun of gleaming her eye. And
1:29:26
I said, where was that again? I was like,
1:29:28
what was that, the candy or the things that
1:29:30
she wanted to go around?
1:29:33
But she freaked... The most surprised I've
1:29:35
ever been in my life, she
1:29:38
speaks no English. No English. I mean,
1:29:40
she's been here 20 some years to
1:29:42
say, I want a glass of water. It's half an hour
1:29:44
to get that out. And
1:29:47
so we're at the table, this is during COVID,
1:29:49
and we're at the table and I went out
1:29:51
and got some Chinese food. Came
1:29:53
back, distributed all around, we're eating Chinese
1:29:56
food. It was great. And I
1:29:58
see her reaching into the bag with a fortune. cookies
1:30:01
and she pulls one out and cracks it and we call
1:30:03
her Bob. In
1:30:06
Russian grandmother is Babushka, not Babushka,
1:30:08
Babushka. So I ain't saying that
1:30:10
every time. So you're Bob now.
1:30:12
And so it says, Hey,
1:30:14
Bob, what does your fortune say? She goes, you
1:30:18
will have a very auspicious day
1:30:20
today as the third trimester of
1:30:22
your Baba. The fuck? And
1:30:26
I said, well, this is a set up, man. You
1:30:28
know, her daughter put, read
1:30:30
another one. What
1:30:33
a glorious day. She
1:30:36
reads the whole fucking thing. That's in hard language too.
1:30:40
She took English in
1:30:42
college in Russia.
1:30:46
She can read it, but doesn't understand what she's
1:30:48
reading. But read
1:30:50
it perfectly. I sat there
1:30:52
like, And she can
1:30:54
use firearms, right? Oh yeah. She's
1:30:56
a great shot. And can throw an ax too.
1:30:59
I don't know. KGB. That's what I'm
1:31:01
thinking. KGB. I
1:31:04
believe it. In America. I believe
1:31:06
it. Yeah. That's
1:31:08
what I'm thinking. Those are her book club meetings. She
1:31:11
goes to book club meetings and sharpens
1:31:13
her tools. Yeah. That's what she does.
1:31:15
That's funny. Cause her family, they were
1:31:18
all geniuses. Did you guys
1:31:20
have a particular strain you liked in
1:31:22
your heyday? I liked weed. Just in
1:31:24
general. Yeah. That's it. That's what they
1:31:26
call weed. I liked that one. My
1:31:28
favorite was anything given to me by
1:31:30
a naked woman. Even
1:31:33
better. I feel you. What was your guys's
1:31:35
favorite movie you guys did? Each of you guys,
1:31:37
your favorite movie that we did
1:31:39
together. Yeah. Together. Oh, up a smoke. I
1:31:43
mean, it's the first one. Yeah. What do you
1:31:45
like? What about your favorite? What's your favorite movie?
1:31:48
I liked them all. She liked them all. I
1:31:51
liked them all. I liked, uh, yeah,
1:31:54
all of them. All of them had something up
1:31:56
in smoke at everything. Wildest
1:31:58
place you've been on vacation. Vacoima? Vacoima.
1:32:06
Where has the wildest place you been on
1:32:08
vacation? You've been a bunch
1:32:10
of places. Vacoima? Not joking, man. It
1:32:13
was a vacation, like with palm trees and shit.
1:32:16
Well, to me, Palau,
1:32:19
the island of Palau. South
1:32:21
Guam. It's 200
1:32:23
miles from Guam. And
1:32:27
it's skin capital.
1:32:29
You know, you can...
1:32:32
those giant shells that you see in
1:32:34
Disney movies, you know? Clamshells. I
1:32:38
was out with a local one time with his boat, and I
1:32:40
found a clamshell, and I struggled with
1:32:42
it, got it up. You know, I had to swim underneath
1:32:44
the water and got it up, put it
1:32:46
in the boat. I went back down,
1:32:48
and all of a sudden I hear a splash. My
1:32:51
shell. The boat captain. Nah, I don't want
1:32:53
that shit in my boat. He
1:32:56
threw it up. Palau. No,
1:32:59
that was crazy. I liked it
1:33:01
very, very native. I like Costa Rica. I
1:33:04
used to go to Costa Rica a lot. I feel...
1:33:06
it's a real jungle, you know, where we used to
1:33:08
go. That was cool. This
1:33:12
is the final question. If you
1:33:14
could see one guest on our show, who would
1:33:16
it be? On
1:33:18
your show. Cool.
1:33:21
Who'd you want on their show? Ray Don. Ali
1:33:25
Wong. Ali Wong. Ali
1:33:28
Wong. Yeah, yeah. She would
1:33:30
be good. There you go. There
1:33:33
you go. As long as we're doing... You
1:33:35
might have to act right here if you think... But it's the
1:33:37
second part of the question. You have to
1:33:39
help us get your answer on the show. Yeah,
1:33:43
yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Sure. I
1:33:45
go, yeah, yeah. No problem. Cassandra
1:33:48
Peterson. Cassandra
1:33:51
Peterson is Elvira. She
1:33:54
was part of the Groundlings. Oh, really? She
1:33:56
was one of the original Groundlings. And she
1:33:58
was also a Las Vegas showgirl. And
1:34:00
you think while with Elvis Yeah
1:34:08
Yeah, oh man Yeah,
1:34:13
you would get a lot of stories out of her that's cool
1:34:15
well, man, we appreciate you guys this time Thank you.
1:34:18
It was an honor to be able to sit down and share some
1:34:20
time for you, man That's a rat
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