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I've got jealousy that you're going to the final because

0:16

it's just a arguably possible once-in-a-lifetime.

0:19

Sure, yeah, I mean I get that and and

0:22

the only thing stopping you from coming here

0:24

is your job. You could quit right now.

0:26

Do it for England.

0:30

If you quit

0:32

NBC right now and go to the airport,

0:35

you might make it here by the second half on Sunday.

0:39

From Apple News, I'm

0:42

Rebecca Lowe. And I'm Brendan

0:44

Hunt and this is After the Whistle.

0:46

My cheeky lionesses, yeah, they're

0:48

in the World Cup final. Can't flimmin' believe it.

0:51

And I just got back from the match here in Sydney

0:54

and we're about to go on an emotional roller

0:56

coaster. Are you tall enough? Who cares?

0:58

Going on it anyway. Reminder, there may be

1:00

adult language from pretty

1:02

much anyone today.

1:07

Brendan! Rebecca.

1:11

Brendan! Oh, it's so good to see you in such

1:13

spirits. Mate, you've been

1:15

stuck in traffic. We're just going to be honest with the

1:17

listeners. You've been stuck in traffic. I have been pacing

1:20

the room. I have been eating a lot

1:22

of chocolate. I have been just

1:25

desperado to

1:27

get on the pod and get stuck

1:29

in to what just happened today. Those

1:32

cheeky, blooming lionesses.

1:39

I am very happy for you. Very happy

1:42

for you. It was, as I promised

1:44

to the day, absolutely rooting for Australia.

1:46

I bought a yellow shirt and a green tie, which I thought

1:48

was like tasteful,

1:50

tasteful without overdoing it, given

1:52

the fact that I knew it was possible that they would lose and I would be

1:54

right back on the England bandwagon come Sunday.

1:58

And if I'd gotten the full, like, you know,

1:59

know, koala tattoo, that

2:02

would have been hard to

2:04

walk back from. What a game. What a game.

2:07

Yeah. Why don't you start? Go ahead. I

2:09

mean, I'll try, but I'm going to have to be honest with you. You're going

2:11

to have to hold my hand through this pod. Cause

2:13

I got stuff to say. I

2:15

got things going on.

2:17

I've got emotions that I've

2:19

never had before at the, I

2:21

just want to skip very quickly to the very end, because one

2:24

line that stood out to me, Gabby Logan, who is a seasoned

2:27

broadcaster in England, who was hosting the show

2:29

tonight. Cause I'm still in England, so I'm watching it

2:31

here. As they handed back to her at the

2:33

end, she said,

2:34

for the first time on British television,

2:37

we can say England are

2:39

in the World Cup final. I can't even get to the end of the sentence.

2:42

I can't even say the whole thing. I mean,

2:44

the hairs on my arms are just, I mean,

2:46

what, what, what, what, what?

2:48

Fine. I

2:53

mean, okay. What a game. What

2:55

a game best

2:57

team one for sure. But Australia,

3:00

you know, Australia had their moments and you

3:02

know, when, when the team news came out and Sam Kerr was

3:04

in the starting lineup, I did feel extra sick.

3:07

She is a beauty

3:09

of a performer. I love her. I'm

3:12

all in for Sam Kerr and I feel bad

3:14

for her, but I am happy Brendan. I'm just getting

3:16

my Aussie love out the way very quickly, because it's

3:18

not going to be a lot of time for in the rest of the pod if I'm honest with

3:20

you. So just very quickly,

3:23

happy for her that she had her one moment. She scored a goal.

3:25

It's been a rough old tournament for her and it is

3:27

a once in a lifetime opportunity to win a World

3:29

Cup in your own country. And so

3:31

that has gone for her. And it is tough. By

3:34

the way,

3:35

side note, Lucy Bronz's middle name

3:38

is tough. That's actually

3:40

her middle name. What? OUGH. Oh,

3:43

it is. It is Lucia Roberta

3:46

Tough Bronz. That's why

3:48

we're in the World Cup final, Brendan.

3:51

My work here is done, by the way. All

3:55

right. Well, be sure to rate and

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review us to help people find the show.

4:00

I'll start

4:02

with two things, walk you through. One,

4:06

we talked the other day, I was very excited for

4:08

this home stadium situation and that would

4:10

be a cauldron. But

4:12

something I forgot, something that should have been in my calculus

4:15

is that this is an athletic stadium. So

4:18

it's just a little too wide to have

4:20

a full cauldron.

4:22

So not a cauldron, more like a sort of

4:24

frying pan. Uh,

4:28

yeah, like

4:30

a low sauce pan. Like

4:34

low sauce pan, you're not making a whole

4:37

like goulash, you're making a can

4:39

of peas.

4:40

Or maybe a paella or something in it, maybe a paella.

4:42

Sure, sure, sure, sure. We're gonna

4:44

pronounce the L's in that, we're gonna paella. We

4:47

are if you're from England. And get Spain

4:49

in the final, even though it's their national

4:51

dish, who cares? Okay,

4:56

second thing. The

4:59

second thing, when Kerr had

5:01

that breakaway and she was called offside.

5:04

Seven minutes in, yep. And she didn't even score anyway,

5:06

or she didn't even get the ball past Earp's anyway. And

5:09

I knew she was offside just because like of where I was,

5:12

I just had the sight line on it. So

5:14

I wasn't-

5:14

I mean, she was also three and a half miles offside. So

5:16

that helps too. But no, I think it was my keen sense

5:19

of perception. Okay. But

5:22

the rest of the stadium thought she was on at the very least.

5:25

Anyway, just that,

5:27

even that moment of like,

5:29

failure seems harsh, sent a shudder.

5:32

You know, like, oh, that is what this person

5:34

can do. Then they can happen like that. And

5:37

that was then hanging over everything for a very,

5:39

very long time. But of course they would not draw

5:42

first blood.

5:42

No, especially because a couple of minutes later, Alex

5:45

Greenwood got a yellow card for fouling her. And

5:47

I thought, oh no. First of all, she's

5:49

just a joke of a player. Now Alex Greenwood, the best

5:51

defender that we have, who's been magnificent

5:54

all tournament, has a yellow in the ninth

5:56

minute. And I'm thinking, this

5:58

is a dangerous opening 10. Then

6:00

England settled. That famous

6:02

mentality that we have came

6:05

to the fore. Alex Greenwood did not put a foot

6:07

wrong for the rest of the night. I thought

6:09

the ref was a little bit overzealous there and then she seemed

6:11

to think, oh yeah, probably was. And then she didn't,

6:13

she was sort of, or maybe that's well

6:15

played the ref. She set the tone for early yellow,

6:18

everybody calm down. But yeah, we

6:20

get into the 36th minute. I turned to my dad who I

6:22

told you yesterday I was sitting watching with.

6:24

He said to me at one point, I won't talk. You

6:26

need to make notes. I was like, no, no, dad, it's

6:28

fine. No, I won't talk. through

6:32

the game. And he said, I said to him, we got to

6:34

make this count. We've got to get a goal before halftime. We've got to make

6:36

this possession, this good, we're playing some

6:38

lovely football, really lovely football.

6:41

And then as

6:42

the co-commentator Rachel Brown,

6:44

Finis put it, a pile driver

6:47

in the top bins and in the side

6:49

netting from the tunage. She didn't

6:51

say tunage. I did. Ella

6:53

too. You are, you are. Look

6:56

at you. Mate,

7:00

I've literally been waiting

7:02

since November, 1980 for this November, 1980,

7:05

when I was born. All right. Oh

7:08

my God. I

7:11

mean, my mood is really, really reversed since

7:13

the start of the podcast. I'm so happy for you. Heck

7:16

of a goal by Ella Tune. And of course, not someone

7:18

who has been around for a long time, but

7:20

a lot of people and of course

7:23

not someone who has been a regular in this lineup. She's

7:25

in there because of.

7:26

Lauren James being suspended, but

7:28

now Serena Viegeman, as

7:31

I always like to call her, Serena tactical, masterclass,

7:34

tactician, genius, Viegeman. Somebody

7:37

who has taken every team to

7:39

the final of the major tournament that she has

7:41

managed them in in the last four available

7:43

tournaments. Yeah, that will be the England manager. Serena

7:47

Viegeman now has to decide, does she bring Lauren

7:50

James back for the final?

7:51

Cause she's, you know, as we've discussed, Lauren

7:53

Flippen James, or does she remain with

7:56

Toonage, with Ella Tune? And

7:59

I think. If you want my opinion that

8:01

you didn't yet ask for, but I'm going to just

8:03

pop in with it. You got to stick with a

8:05

winning team. Now Veeamint pulls

8:08

no punches. If she genuinely believes

8:10

that

8:11

against Spain, the way that Spain played that Lauren

8:13

James is our quickest route to glory, she

8:15

will play Lauren James. I just feel

8:18

the way that we played today, the way

8:20

to and played the fact she scored, it would be bloody rough

8:23

to bring her out and difficult

8:25

to change your winning lineup. So I'm going to think Lauren

8:27

James starts on the bench, which

8:29

is also a brilliant place to come off from and

8:31

score the winning goal in a World Cup final and all will

8:33

be forgiven. Dame Lauren

8:36

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9:04

Okay, Brendan, should we move on to the second half? So Australia

9:06

started better. Lauren Hempe, who had a marvelous

9:08

game, had a chance, which was well

9:11

saved, really well saved on 57.

9:13

Hempo, they call her. They do. They

9:15

like to lengthen names in England, not shorten

9:18

them. Hempe. And Brightie,

9:20

no doubt, that's also her name, Millie Bright, probably Brightie,

9:23

with a header on 57. And

9:25

then

9:26

Sam Kerr. What

9:29

a goal. And the

9:31

commentator Robin Cowan on BBC with

9:34

a line, all hail the

9:36

Wizard of Oz. Wow. Well

9:38

done. Yeah, I know. I know. I

9:42

loved it. I have to say I loved it. What a goal, mate. It

9:44

was an incredible goal. It was an electric moment in the stadium.

9:47

And partially because of her

9:49

picking up the ball from so far out in her own half.

9:52

And then that

9:53

dramatic drill

9:55

forward where Millie Bright is just

9:58

doing what she's supposed to do. you

10:00

know, in terms of like holding her position, you know, keeping

10:02

the angle right. And Sam Curtis

10:04

did not care. And so that was such a long

10:06

buildup. And I was like directly behind

10:09

Sam at this point. Nooka sort of like see

10:12

the view. I could see like Bright's eyes

10:14

looking at her. And it looked like she

10:16

was gonna go, you know,

10:17

bottom corner, left or right was like her only

10:19

option. And instead of course, she

10:22

goes, she goes over.

10:24

And I

10:25

mean, I may never see a better goal in

10:28

a bigger situation in

10:30

my life. That was football at

10:32

its finest. Even though they lost, I

10:34

hope people walk away feeling electric

10:38

and privileged to have seen that goal. That

10:40

was a stunner. Yeah, I agree. And

10:42

I am so, even somehow,

10:45

how or where from, but I did find some element

10:47

of like,

10:49

okay, well done Sam, I'm happy

10:51

you've had your moment. But I would say

10:53

the turning point in this game, Brendan, was

10:55

two minutes later. You might not even remember

10:57

it, but I made a note of it.

10:59

Kerr had the ball, I think just

11:01

outside the box and Jess Carter tackled

11:04

her brilliantly. And I feel

11:07

from that, two minutes after Kerr's goal, right?

11:09

Kerr's tail was up. Carter did like

11:11

a kind of old fashioned 1980s tackle on her, beautiful

11:14

tackle.

11:16

And it led afterwards to

11:19

England picking themselves back up.

11:21

It was almost like the tackle. And

11:23

I hate to bring this to your attention, but it

11:25

reminded me slightly of when Arsenal played Liverpool

11:27

last season towards the end of the season. And

11:30

you guys

11:31

slightly lost your way in the second half.

11:34

Granite Jacke lost his rag

11:36

and started a fight basically. And no joke,

11:38

the trajectory of your title race went downhill after

11:40

that. This was the opposite. This was Jess

11:43

Carter with an amazing tackle on

11:45

Sam Kerr, who just two minutes previously scored a

11:47

goal. And it allowed the England mentality

11:49

to sort of, they remembered who they were.

11:52

And two minutes after that, Russo had a header

11:54

that went wide and I wrote down, great

11:57

GR8 because I'm down with the kids.

11:59

reaction to Kerr goal and

12:02

then two minutes after that, Hempo

12:05

scored to make it 2-1.

12:07

Okay, so this Hempo goal,

12:09

good for her, take every opportunity you can,

12:11

but that was a cataclysm

12:14

from Ellie Carpenter on that clearance

12:16

that she's had a great tournament

12:19

and that was kind of

12:21

the game. I mean, even

12:23

with a better team, bigger facts are stronger,

12:26

stronger mentally, but somehow

12:29

Australia had a chance to win it at this

12:31

point. Like they were riding high after that Sam

12:33

Kerr goal and then this

12:36

inexcusable lapse

12:39

just throws all that momentum in the garbage. Yeah?

12:43

Mm-hmm, yeah, 100%. And

12:45

you know, Hem can celebrate all she wants, England can

12:47

celebrate all they want, you, Rebecca, you

12:49

can celebrate all you want, but it wasn't like,

12:53

yeah, it was a shame. It was a damn shame. Yeah,

12:56

I mean, when you're following one team,

12:58

not the other, you don't tend to watch really

13:00

so much about what the other team's doing. Not

13:02

gonna lie, that defensive analysis

13:04

you just gave me, brand new to me, all

13:07

I was watching was the Hempsville, Hempsville

13:10

back of the net.

13:11

I'm

13:14

dying. Because

13:18

here's the thing, it is indicative, I

13:20

don't wanna put too much on card, but it was also indicative

13:23

of Australia were

13:25

I think just overawed by the occasion and were kind

13:27

of overawed by the fact that, oh my God, we might actually win this

13:29

game because then, what is it, 12 minutes

13:31

after that, we go to the Russo

13:34

goal and that Russo

13:36

goal, gosh

13:39

darn it, you know, like it was really well played

13:41

by Hemp and Russo, you know, Hemp with the pass, Russo

13:44

with the finish, but the timing of it,

13:46

she just had to wait, you know, as these Australian

13:48

defenders are backtracking, just had to wait for someone

13:50

to make the wrong move and step

13:52

into space

13:53

where they shouldn't, allowing space

13:56

for Russo to come through and it

13:58

all seemed to me to be tied up in two.

13:59

mentality and expose the gulf

14:02

mentality between England and Australia.

14:04

We'll get to mentality in just one second, but

14:07

hemp's work there was

14:09

magic. To hold

14:11

the ball up for that amount of time, evade one

14:14

defender, carry on dribbling, carry on with

14:16

her run. There I am shouting, pass

14:18

it now! To Russo, absolute

14:21

ignored me.

14:22

Quite rude. Ignored me, waited

14:24

another second before she played the perfect pass,

14:27

to be fair to her. To Russo, who finished it

14:29

off, which was amazing. Let's talk about mentality,

14:31

Brendan. Can we for a second?

14:33

Please. Mentality

14:35

is something that has come up time and time

14:37

again. Obviously, England hung on after that. It

14:39

was 3-1 and there wasn't really a lot of scares

14:41

after that. But after the game, watching

14:44

the post-match interviews, Farrah Williams,

14:46

who is the record England cap holder,

14:49

record England appearance holder, was

14:51

working for the BBC. She said something to

14:53

Canberra where she said, the mentality of this

14:55

team is something I've never seen before.

14:57

And she's seen it all. Then

14:59

Millie Bright, the captain, did an interview in which she

15:01

said the exact same thing. She said the mentality

15:04

is something I've never seen before. Then

15:06

the interview with Serena Viegman, she was asked, how are

15:08

you putting this mentality into this team? I

15:10

don't re- she, she, oh, they ain't

15:12

giving away her secrets, obviously. But

15:14

this mentality factor

15:17

to me is fascinating because you know why?

15:20

I hate to say it, but it's something that we've never had in the men's

15:22

side of the game in terms of the England national

15:23

team. You do not hate to say it because you've believed

15:26

it for a very long time. Yeah. By

15:28

the way, Gareth, it's over to you, mate. Next summer, no pressure.

15:30

Flip a neck. So I love

15:32

to see it. Strong

15:34

women in a strong mentality

15:38

where nothing in front of them phases

15:40

them is, by the way, one of the hardest things

15:42

you can do in any sport. Creating

15:45

that mentality comes from the top. So Viegman,

15:47

legendary. Maintaining that mentality

15:50

comes from both the manager and the players.

15:52

How they've done it. I've no idea, but

15:55

it's that that's going to win them this World Cup. Yeah,

15:57

I think you're right. You know, it's, it's a

15:59

funny thing.

15:59

because you know how much they

16:02

want it, and yet they

16:04

do not want it too much. Australia

16:07

tonight wanted it too much. And here's

16:10

the thing, because then even if Australia had had

16:12

the exact same level of mentality as England had, which

16:14

is

16:15

impossible, England were also just

16:17

better.

16:18

Bigger facts are stronger, they

16:20

would have won this game. But Australia

16:23

shot themselves in the foot just enough to

16:25

make it worse. And Brendan, I don't want

16:27

to sound sort of hyperbolic and get

16:29

a bit over, I don't know, over

16:32

emotional about it. But

16:35

I am slightly in a state of shock about

16:37

the situation because I grew

16:39

up, oh by the way, side note, Chloe Kelly

16:42

comes from my hometown. So when she came on, I had to give

16:44

her a massive round of applause. So you know, obviously besties

16:46

now. I grew up

16:48

in West London, in the back garden,

16:51

playing football with my brother in goal, because

16:53

why would I not be in goal? He needed a goalkeeper.

16:56

I'm his younger sister getting goal. I

16:58

grew up going to the parks in my town in West

17:00

London and seeing boys playing football and girls

17:02

sitting on the side. And it's

17:05

a bit like that post you read out in the

17:07

last pod, which if anyone hasn't heard, please go back

17:09

and listen to it because it was magnif right at the end of the

17:11

pod.

17:12

To see these women do

17:15

what they've done today in a sport

17:18

which is

17:20

more deeply ingrained in England that I would

17:22

argue any sport is anywhere in the world. Is,

17:27

is quite

17:32

a big deal. It's quite a big deal, mate.

17:35

It's quite a big deal. Yeah.

17:38

So Sunday, um, gonna be

17:40

a wreck. Absolute

17:43

wreck. Uh, congrats

17:45

Australia on a heck of a tournament. I was not entirely

17:48

over, but and a heck of a goal

17:50

tonight. I mean, they can feel like they've done

17:52

something that they will look back on with, with pride for

17:55

sure. Um, and England has

17:57

Spain, Spain.

17:58

This is unequivocally a World

18:02

Cup final where the two best teams are

18:04

the two who are meeting up. Is

18:06

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18:18

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18:20

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18:22

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18:25

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18:38

All right. It's been the

18:40

thing we've waited for all month. The

18:43

Women's World Cup final coming to you this

18:45

Sunday from Stadium Australia,

18:49

England versus Spain.

18:52

Rebecca, your thoughts. First

18:54

of all, are you going? Got ticket? Yep. Okay.

18:58

Okay. So now I do have the jealousy. You

19:00

know how I said you in the semi-final, I didn't have the jealousy because

19:03

semi-finals are yucky. If you lose a semi-final,

19:05

no one ever remembers you, even though they tried to remember you

19:07

with the third place playoff, but no one really does. And

19:10

if you win the semi-final, then

19:11

you go onto the final, right? So

19:13

didn't have jealousy on that because it's almost

19:16

too yuck. I've got jealousy

19:18

that you're going to the final because it's just

19:20

an arguably possible once in a lifetime. Sure.

19:24

Yeah. I mean, I get that. The

19:26

only thing stopping you from coming here is your

19:28

job. So I think it's

19:31

just a question of like, what do you care

19:33

more about? Like your family and your soul

19:35

and what makes you a person or material

19:38

things? In which case you

19:40

have the opportunity to quit.

19:42

You could quit right now, right now. What

19:44

a podcast this would be. Do it

19:46

for England. If

19:51

you quit NBC right now and go

19:53

to the airport, you might make it here by the second

19:55

half on Sunday. Oh,

19:59

that's funny. Um, moving

20:01

on. Um, let's

20:03

talk about the game. All

20:06

right. So I feel more

20:08

confident going into playing Spain,

20:11

Brendan, than I did going into playing Australia. So

20:13

even though Spain have been in Australia,

20:15

I think we'll have

20:18

their number. I think everything

20:20

that has gone before us

20:22

will play into this 90 minutes or 120, whatever it'll be. And I'm feeling

20:27

pretty good about it. What do you think from an objective

20:29

point of view, even though now you're an England fan?

20:32

I think Spain are absolutely better than Australia

20:35

and it's going to be interesting sort

20:37

of style clash. You know, Spain

20:39

a bit, you know, are there in, they're

20:42

in Tiki Taka land a little bit and England

20:44

are exactly a blunt instrument, but they're certainly not

20:46

quite as graceful as Spain can be.

20:49

But

20:50

England are also just more

20:52

tested, you know, this run that they've

20:54

been on. I

20:56

don't think there's anything

20:58

they can't do, frankly. And I

21:00

think

21:01

Spain does still have

21:03

the capacity to be overawed

21:07

by the occasion. And eventually

21:09

at some point, the fact that they have a bit of a disconnect

21:11

with their coach has got to cost them. And this

21:14

could be the hurdle where it does.

21:16

Whereas England is completely

21:19

congealed and contiguous with

21:21

their coach.

21:23

I don't see how England, well,

21:25

of course I do. I've watched other England

21:27

teams before on the male side of

21:29

things. And they have many ways of

21:32

screwing things up, but I don't see how this

21:34

particular England team

21:36

could. I think this is going to be their moment.

21:38

It's going to be great. Yeah, I think I'll have

21:40

changing emotions between now and

21:42

Sunday morning. And I shall, whether you ask me or not,

21:45

bring you up to date on those changing emotions

21:47

throughout the course of the next three days.

21:50

Bits and bobs, bits and bobs, my friend.

21:53

What have you got? Just

21:55

want to throw some respect to

21:57

the city of Sydney today. I

22:00

wanted to go into town and buy some Matilda's

22:02

gear or just some yellow and green colored

22:05

gear for my baby

22:07

mama and the mama of my baby mama because

22:10

we were able to bring her this time we had a babysitter. And

22:13

it was very difficult to find any. We eventually

22:15

found some stuff but the reason why it was

22:18

difficult was because quite visibly the

22:20

whole city of Sydney was wearing

22:22

all of it already. Every street

22:25

we walked down, yellow and green coming at us

22:27

from every direction, every kind of

22:29

person, every walk

22:29

of life, people were absolutely

22:33

up for it today. And it's just so great

22:35

to see when that happens. So good

22:37

on you, Sydney, you deserved everything. Sorry,

22:40

it's not coming your way.

22:41

Sorry, they're now soaked in tears, my bad.

22:44

But I would say just to be nice for one second,

22:46

I did hear one of the former Australia players afterwards say

22:48

that this team has woken up a nation. So

22:51

that's fantastic for women's

22:54

football moving forward down under.

22:56

So yeah, just for one very quick more

22:58

second, well done Australia, how far you've

23:00

got, but see you later, potato.

23:03

Absolute

23:06

hairpin turn. Absolute. Absolutely.

23:13

Have you a bit or Bob? We

23:15

asked some questions. We asked for questions

23:17

from our listeners, Brendan, on the last episode, because

23:19

this week, a little bit later on this week, or maybe tomorrow,

23:22

who knows? Because nobody knows what day is and nobody knows which country

23:24

any of us are in right now. We

23:26

asked some questions and we will answer them about basically

23:29

anything. And let me tell you, I've seen some of the ones

23:31

that have come in and they have been about

23:33

basically anything, but do send

23:35

them in mainly about football if possible. And

23:38

we will answer them in our mailbag

23:40

episode. We've had so many, but if

23:42

you think yours is better,

23:44

this is your final day to submit a question. Do

23:46

you know how they do that, Brendan? Would you like to tell them?

23:49

I would. They record their question via voice

23:51

memo on their phone or other voice memo

23:53

recording device and email it to atw

23:56

at apple.com. That is atw

23:59

at apple.com.

23:59

Tell us your name,

24:02

where you're from, and please try to keep the question

24:04

to 30 seconds or less, because it's less data that

24:06

way.

24:07

All right, mate. I will speak to you tomorrow.

24:10

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24:12

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24:17

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24:20

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available.

24:27

How long can you maintain

24:29

this glorious post-victory feeling

24:32

before it is replaced with a pre-final

24:35

dread?

24:36

I think I'm going to go for circa

24:38

Saturday morning, which will then be around 24

24:41

hours of the big day. That's when the sickness

24:43

sets in.

24:44

Yeah, because also Saturday morning, you'll be like, oh my God,

24:46

I quit my job for this? And

24:48

then the stewardess is going to be you more tea

24:51

for your 50-hour flight.