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We bought the party. Thread
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safe. Space
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Program Make a snail thousand
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nine thousand and Co made
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a day. W under strict it
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and the Washington Imo, Edwards and
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well that we just came off
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of one of the biggest paper
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news of the year. We say that every
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paper view but I feel. Like it becomes more more
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true every time. Well think about Dynasty as
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it was a new one and we had
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a lot to prove. And I think that
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I think we set the tone for exactly
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what that event can be going forward and.
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Just. Coming off of Jacksonville which is
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becoming now one of my favorite places
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to hit, Dude. It's so good it's one of
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those things like I gave felt a little groundhog Day near
0:46
the end of the pandemic, but every time I go back
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to. Jacksonville. It's It's a blast! I love it.
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The thing for me is. Part. Of
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it is like the experiences that you got that.
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Where. Everybody always tells me. Oh.
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Have you hit the for for floor yet?
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like or die yet a her there are
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you know Everybody tells me about the experiences
1:03
that oh I have to experience this thing
1:05
now they're like okay this you officially popular
1:07
Youtube you Jerry Now you're really here Now
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You're really a part of this company sell
1:12
like ah that's what I think Jacksonville has
1:14
really gotten a do for me and so
1:16
it of course more. back for collision this
1:18
week. It's been a great time so I
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am happy and I always am happy every
1:22
time somebody gets to work Jacksonville for the
1:24
first time. Yes! and of course since our
1:26
last. Run their in January without a
1:29
few name show up so I also
1:31
just call for them to get to
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experience Dailies place for the first time
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so that's really cool. It's. Such a
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cool then you. It's just like he
1:39
you forget the like oh it's outdoors
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and it's an amphitheater and it's you're
1:44
performing in a stage setting. It just
1:46
changes the feeling and the dynamic of
1:48
everything. Any other thing too is this was
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my first time experience in in daylight savings time
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off that Missouri winter so it was like you
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person said is that really cool it's called but
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anyway we've got in aid of you unrestricted to
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get to. Gotta show! Yeah Do here
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And Ah hey Audrey! You
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know who are? Guess this today. I
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think I know him. Well you
2:08
should agree because he is
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the one the only the
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Rated R Superstar. Adam.
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Copeland Adam Thank you for finally be
2:17
Here are eight of the Under Secretary
2:20
to have you. I'd so like you
2:22
Finally Gabi with like a Wonder Woman.
2:24
Last of truth and nothing to further
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has not stopped and I just nuts.
2:28
But are we found we were dented,
2:30
done some it. Yeah lug Okay
2:32
I have to say I have.
2:34
Watched. Your entire career, So.
2:37
I don't even know where exactly I want
2:39
to start is like it could easily so
2:41
the a heavy stuff when I'm like the
2:43
do like ten thousand questions are probably always
2:45
wanted to ask you so I go to
2:47
start aid of he was or at at
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wrestle dream. Seattle. That.
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Was. A moment that was
2:54
in something that I think everybody
2:56
was with looking for to with
2:58
excited for most like a soup
3:00
and knew that like meddling it
3:02
wasn't a song that. Was. Exclusive
3:05
to one location for but. It
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still felt so real. To hear
3:10
it. Anywhere but where. We've heard
3:12
it before and all of a sudden it's
3:14
like hear That and Copeland but it's Adam
3:16
couple exactly as we know we. We don't
3:18
have to make any concessions here. and what
3:20
was that moment? like how did that feel
3:22
coming to that curtain I may have felt
3:24
really good was if strange for sure. I
3:26
mean it was all very new to me
3:28
because I've been used to one thing for
3:30
so long so was nice to be of
3:32
the bring meddling this with me to the
3:34
have that little bit avast. Something.
3:36
Familiar so that that was cool. Luckily
3:38
being friends with Alter Bridge and Add
3:41
Da those guys you know, any time
3:43
I've called do I guess you're. Just
3:45
take it and that song. Actually I
3:48
have always felt the lyrics mad something
3:50
and there's something I could relate to
3:52
so that that was huge. I was
3:54
a crazy day you know I'd been
3:57
can sequestered out average just at hiding
3:59
out, getting. Door-and just waiting is you're
4:01
wanting to get get moving on it.
4:03
Yet else thought. I'd flown in and
4:06
I met up with Darby. We just
4:08
die with Gian Carlo. We just started
4:10
to realize filming this this idea, this
4:12
treatment that I had and and I
4:14
had heard Darby was the guys that
4:17
so I just called call them to
4:19
a dart men and nice major. On
4:22
com the the company. And to
4:24
get your muscle car as an
4:26
assistant. Other other other other rest
4:28
is history to the point where
4:30
she's outside in this the street.
4:33
Or. Not the greatest neighborhood be stagnates
4:35
were flying that's where are flying it
4:37
over and and were filming and everything
4:39
and then the mariners had just one
4:42
so these didn't Fireworks started going off
4:44
to Ser de Winter's. Doesn't happen often.
4:46
See, Have no idea how right you were that
4:48
that happens. If I know. So it was
4:50
it was all like it was just so
4:52
much one the they just felt so. A
4:55
wide open. And and and so
4:57
creed us and and to be so
5:00
involved in the creative process because I
5:02
really love being involved and creative process
5:04
which heavily so. That
5:06
was my first taste of how creatively
5:09
responsible I could be for my vision
5:11
coming to life on screen here. For
5:13
those people listening and who don't live
5:15
in the Pacific Northwest ever does not
5:17
close to Seattle Cells sucess guess I
5:20
won't know that in a couple weeks
5:22
by the way, because yet actually go
5:24
to be in Everett Washington May fifteenth
5:26
Floor. Yeah, I might. Yeah, we were want to
5:28
get me out of sight. So. There
5:30
is no possibilities I just of yeah
5:33
so if one of those things one
5:35
restaurant the I use he. Would.
5:37
Soon or less. what are the
5:40
ones that are just I just
5:42
wanted not a feel for success
5:44
of yeah I remember that day
5:46
just. As like I'm I'm already in
5:48
my hometown, I'm excited. It's just a phenomenal
5:51
say. Wills already tried to hints at me
5:53
that you're coming and I totally missed it
5:55
because I'm dense. But I remember a couple
5:57
weeks before doing the mass of like, okay,
6:00
That is Dave. And then
6:02
if I count, oh, that's.
6:04
October. First, oh boy.
6:07
And I had no idea I'm scenario. With
6:09
the silliest hit by the way too because my god
6:11
for as you didn't catch it at all because of
6:14
my order to give it away, I was going to
6:16
do anything but it was like. A She
6:18
goes. Ah so what we do the
6:20
wrestle and I was like you think you know
6:22
and I would walk off and seated on cats
6:24
died whatever it. As
6:27
an old meet a man
6:29
made lox ah i see
6:31
as the one wearing. A
6:35
day to of. Clad.
6:37
You know it's when he talked about the meaning of
6:39
that sounds you by the way, like it's It's weird
6:41
in my head. it's hard to believe it's been twenty
6:43
years, but that's still like. The. New Ads
6:45
music to be right with it I
6:47
said I'd like. I remember vividly was
6:49
the I Precinct Aid versus Hurricanes you
6:51
had interrupted to promote the book. The
6:53
promo my birthday I have a most
6:56
of us I showed up with new
6:58
music and I wonder why Christian hates
7:00
me A A A A severely debuted
7:02
new music in the middle of his
7:04
match by Do had of the It's
7:06
It's a phone that everybody associates with
7:08
your career. we just aren't rato. Ah
7:10
the audience singing along with it. It's
7:13
it's great. Yeah. It's take
7:15
them on a and with zone which is is
7:17
so. You. Know it's so fun
7:19
to have it be that interactive I
7:21
guess. And and and for me to
7:24
our connect with something and it feels
7:26
like people over the years of really
7:28
kind of actually paid attention the lyrics
7:31
and with oh. A while
7:33
and an almost feels like each
7:35
incarnation a nice new chapter that
7:37
happens of almost. It's even more
7:39
like it is wrong. With. Mrs
7:41
I always said to me music
7:43
is one of the most important
7:45
aspects of your presentation. It really
7:47
is because it sets the tone,
7:50
it sets, the mood is causes
7:52
the explosion it causes. whatever that's
7:54
worth me as negative or positive.
7:56
To. Me: It's. It starts everything because
7:58
that the minute you. Through. And
8:01
your first thing. that's when the presentation
8:03
starts. That's one.your package is being you
8:05
know, shown to the world and what
8:07
you wanna put out there. So it's
8:09
it's started music and I just think
8:12
of one. I was a kid and
8:14
one certain guys. Or. Girls because
8:16
it would have until it's okay. It's
8:18
on. Sort. Out the very important
8:20
to be avoided. Very hands on with. With.
8:22
The music with with the visuals and
8:25
and really or presentation. it's such a
8:27
part of you and who you are
8:29
as a wrestler and history that we've
8:31
seen for so long. But. Now you're
8:33
Adam Copeland at a Eat Etti a Cd
8:36
to bring this part of you with you.
8:38
But what has sort of been your favorite
8:40
part of discovering who you are in aid
8:43
of you? space? More. Than
8:45
anything are utilized as were introduced myself
8:47
as any other name besides out of
8:49
me by somebody say utmost Michoacan us
8:51
played once different characters one i just
8:53
happened apply for a long time that
8:55
people are really use do this as
8:58
I guess even since I came back
9:00
you know at the rumble their years
9:02
ago this has been. The. Closest
9:04
to Adam. That. I've been.
9:07
There's not a huge difference between the
9:09
care to see on t them person's
9:11
obviously ramped up. I don't run around
9:14
attacking people on the streets of that
9:16
we know of the I saw that
9:18
had been charged for and was a
9:20
more than anything. It's just.you know the
9:23
story, You know my story. Everybody knows
9:25
the surgeries, everybody knows the injuries and
9:27
once you know that in once the.
9:30
I guess decreased and feel back on
9:32
everything. Know that? I went through
9:35
to get this back. It's much closer
9:37
to me and the actual person and
9:39
and the father and that partner and
9:42
then it is. You know when it
9:44
was this mysterious and it mattered character
9:46
or something it's are pretty much as
9:48
me now except I wear a leather
9:51
vest and settled finalists well and a
9:53
you were getting to know is. The.
9:55
Courage. Raining. And and defending
9:58
T and T champion. You
10:00
know, in it's existence in a W
10:02
pretty much since it was introduced, and
10:04
Twenty Twenty has been a title really
10:06
associated with that open Challenge format. The
10:08
idea that anything can happen when this
10:10
title is on the line and so
10:12
far with you you kind of really
10:14
brought that back there. What is that
10:16
means you? What Are you expecting To
10:18
continue on with this rain. I
10:21
The Jays really really put
10:23
some owners tax on a
10:25
championship. Really made it feels.
10:28
Like. Must Sees television ads are want
10:30
to continue that but I sought by
10:32
I need to continue a different way
10:34
so in between having that my to
10:37
title rains I thought the cop open
10:39
would be cool to earn the shot
10:41
back but also kind of open the
10:43
door to the could be anybody. And
10:46
that means it's Suzuki one week.
10:48
It's Griff Garrison that's three moriarity.
10:51
It's Dante Martin, a standard Garcia.
10:53
it's mattered on in peril. That's
10:55
really fun to me. It's also
10:58
fun as performer to go. Those
11:00
are all completely different stats. Like.
11:02
There's not one guy out of
11:04
that that that a similar. That's
11:07
really cool because I love trying
11:09
to put on a different hats
11:11
reach each account because always tried
11:13
to challenge myself to go. Okay
11:15
right if I'm rushing this guy.
11:17
I can adapt from roughing this guy, I
11:20
can adapt. That's a really fun challenge though
11:22
because sometimes maybe you don't adapt but it's
11:24
fun to find out. It just are you
11:26
finding out on live television successful? That could
11:29
be bit of a pressure cooker but it's
11:31
just a lot of fun. It really isn't
11:33
a feels like all bets are off was
11:35
and but it would show up. So look
11:38
at a free agent. it's possibility trust me.
11:40
I'm looking at them and on going to
11:42
who have already done my homework. In
11:44
and that's really really fun just to keep
11:46
people on their toes. And and if you
11:49
see you know a cop segment the who
11:51
knows guy who's gonna show up. I think
11:53
that's one. Good. I think that's the
11:55
part that makes. This entire run
11:57
of yours in the existence of it feels
11:59
so. Real right? Like I owe.
12:01
I'd I thought about it the
12:03
moment suzuki with having his entrance.
12:05
yeah I was like god If
12:08
you're told twenty eighteen me that
12:10
Adam Copeland. Was. Going to
12:12
be wrestling here. And not
12:14
just wrestling here is gonna be wrestling
12:16
Menorah Suzuki! On. A that be
12:18
done my like you want a computer To
12:20
me what vivid said says it says none
12:23
of this sounds right whatsoever but here at
12:25
is happening and it's entirely possible and of
12:27
the baby so grateful may be feel like
12:29
this is a really cool thing that's happening.
12:31
I mean there are multiple fronts. There was
12:33
no E W I was retired yeah like
12:35
A like I said you know what when
12:37
I was forced to retire I was told
12:39
that was it. You are dogs There is
12:41
no no comes back. So for me the
12:43
ship sailed and it wasn't like on the
12:45
rise and it was long gone. like nine
12:47
years. Knowledge was two years
12:49
now. He was three years. Or four
12:51
years. Or five years or so. We're
12:54
almost a decade and a retired, right?
12:56
Yeah, that was. That is just all
12:58
of this has been such. A
13:01
second act I guess really and and
13:03
watch them really thought about it is
13:05
that I feel like I brought back
13:07
more mentally with me. You know, physically
13:09
I might not be able to do
13:11
some things my brain wants to tell
13:13
me, but I feel like. Because.
13:16
Of my experience but not just experience
13:18
and ring more my life experience now
13:20
raising kids, going through that site within
13:23
an injury and then and then turning
13:25
to acting and doing you know like
13:27
a hundred episodes television Lives retired That
13:29
that really helped me bring some different
13:32
tools and into my yeah my bad.my
13:34
utility belt to to bring back with
13:36
me. That's been really fun to explore.
13:39
It's almost made me enjoy yard of
13:41
the promo more than the matches at
13:43
times. Realizing the importance
13:46
of that the and and
13:48
was storytelling tool that we
13:50
have our disposal. If we
13:52
can try and and really. Master
13:54
this fake news know for we mastering it
13:56
but getting as close as you can and
13:58
and and finding your. Wilson and I think
14:01
is really really important than and gum. What's
14:03
been really fun to is the just sitting
14:05
down with younger talent or you know if
14:07
you want to pick my brain I pulled
14:09
everybody. I'm I'm wide open. I'm here. Here's
14:12
my number. My. Taking you dare
14:14
to gets. Kids. Like dogs
14:16
all that stuff. but I'll get to
14:18
it and I and I watch it
14:20
and ah madame we can sit down
14:22
appeal apart together that doesn't really fun
14:25
process just to see light bulb starts
14:27
to go off the people the locale
14:29
tried actually my not work for them
14:31
but. He. Was you see Civil
14:33
Wars for you? This is work for me. There's
14:35
so many things you said that I want to
14:38
talk more about and I'm so excited that we
14:40
are actually great. Like like a know that moral
14:42
the Come Back Here I need of unrestricted. Eat
14:48
any under six It other Edwards Will watches
14:50
and Adam Copeland. It's got so many things
14:53
such that unreal. Like sitting here just like
14:55
fully inspired by this conversation. We got
14:57
to for segments to come up. so you.
14:59
You touch on a little bit before the break. That
15:02
you've got really into acting and doing
15:04
Tv in over one hundred up. So
15:06
the television. While you were retired
15:08
from what. Was that process like
15:10
getting into acting and what has
15:12
that brought to you from a
15:15
wrestling. Perspective. I didn't fully realize what
15:17
it rocks. mutilated back acting was it
15:19
was a happy accident. Do I never
15:21
had aspirations? I never wanted that to
15:23
be my career. I was pro wrestler
15:26
first batch if that was the and
15:28
game and that's all ever wondered do
15:30
but when you're told you can't do
15:32
it gotta wrap your mind around cheap
15:34
stuff and.luckily large or to Bruce for
15:36
show called haven or that Silvers. They
15:38
saw my retirement speech and they six
15:41
weeks back guy. Isn't one out
15:43
there? In one episode turned and forty
15:45
one in the process I learned this
15:47
is really asked. My. That
15:49
the is cool Gadgets is
15:51
not wrestling. You. Don't have that
15:54
instant gratification to know what to do
15:56
and working if people are picking up
15:58
which put downs but. It's
16:00
still very creative and is still happening under
16:02
that create a vain and I and I
16:04
need that the I think anybody who's involved
16:06
and and wrestling is a creative person so.
16:09
It. Became kind of my place to
16:12
still. Get. That out and
16:14
song love with it started putting
16:16
work toward it. I just talked
16:18
to directors. Tortured. You
16:20
know the Dp on Go Okay why we
16:23
live in this way? Why we do and
16:25
that sir, Why we doing this angle. Why
16:27
we get the you know just just and
16:29
and talking to other actors and and saying
16:32
watchmaker twice. With. the
16:34
not questioning had but wondering
16:36
learning. Yeah. Yeah to the
16:38
point where probably annoying people but that's that's
16:40
what I didn't wrestling you know I just
16:43
ask questions if I was on an empty
16:45
shelves and bad news Brown was on it.
16:47
I was one streets bad news one of
16:50
very what he doesn't because my ears are
16:52
wide open and die. I want to be
16:54
the same way on a set In
16:56
coming back to wrestling I realized how many
16:58
different things. That I
17:00
could because. As. Much or
17:03
third the different. there still seems
17:05
religious sense, different branches right? It
17:08
was fascinating, said to kind of comeback
17:10
like a said with a promo and
17:12
and realize how to use movement? How
17:14
to use stillness to make me more
17:17
how to use your eyes because everything
17:19
whole that these things so often arresting
17:21
where it gets hot up and moves
17:23
and spots and you know sequences or
17:26
whatever the terms are nowadays. But give
17:28
me these all day and I'm gonna
17:30
get more cross with those than I
17:32
will buy during. As you know, I
17:34
shook stocks. plus I can't do once
17:37
so there's that. It's
17:39
it's. crazy. Because like I have, twenty
17:41
years of valet experience and you saying
17:43
the eyes It's like we were frequently
17:45
told during her Celtic. okay, what are
17:47
your eyebrows do x Yeah, it's every
17:49
little saying. You don't realize how every
17:51
part of you encompasses the story you're
17:53
telling until you think about like, where
17:55
are my fingers pointing when I'm doing
17:57
this scene yeah, what am I look.
18:00
Yeah, what did my body language? Where's the
18:02
camera coming in from? It's just
18:04
fascinating stuff. Better. With already for
18:06
when i first started acting or a
18:08
sob story before to there's director name
18:10
is our we rose we're doing some
18:12
my first close up to him i
18:14
was just do and wrestling thing is
18:16
what i know rights isn't bad she
18:19
came up to me after with takes
18:21
was armed suspects what what's he doing
18:23
with your eyes there and i went.
18:25
On how would my don't she
18:27
was stopped doing. And omelet. Okay
18:30
will show me cause I've no idea
18:32
what you're talking about. Such posey. back
18:34
to monitor we're looking at all aboard.
18:36
I was like a madman. more here.
18:39
my eyebrows, real, my eyes on. I'm
18:41
like. Oh. I'm going
18:43
for football stadium and him and this
18:45
isn't that. You can see my nose
18:47
hairs so. Bad
18:50
here. And make sure that
18:52
I. Don't. Look like a maniac
18:54
because the seem to recall for that sort.
18:56
Took some getting used to sit to pull
18:58
everything back and then coming back to wrestling
19:01
where you want everything to do that again.
19:03
I realize now you can still use those
19:05
things. You just gotta make sure the time's
19:07
right, the cameras hot so you're always. I'm
19:10
always aware of where we are, what's going
19:12
on, and and trying to play the coordinates.
19:14
Lot of place to keep in the air
19:17
up there. and that's also one of the
19:19
things that I've always wondered. Professional wrestling have
19:21
much more of an understanding. Of now in
19:23
this rotten than I did. My first thought. That's
19:25
the thing I wanted to ask you because you
19:27
know, talking about coming out of acne and everything
19:30
you picked up from it, you know you got
19:32
to return. A professional wrestling in a manner that
19:34
I don't think any of us will ever forget
19:36
is that was one of those you know with
19:38
the day Koby Bryant dies although it's associated with
19:40
phrase that and I was the I know like
19:43
sad all day and and it's like. Oh.
19:45
My God Adams back, what are we talking about
19:47
here? A nice area. was like this range
19:49
of emotions for that day, but. You.
19:51
Know talking about. Coming from
19:53
acting. You. Know you got to return
19:56
to a world you new. Are. Almost
19:58
He thought you do. Because. The.
20:01
Pandemic? It? Yeah. right. After that he
20:03
did, you feel like. What? You
20:05
were able to do. In. Acting really
20:07
enhanced with you are able to do without
20:09
an audience. Yeah, you know he is
20:11
weird even that day as I was kind
20:13
of sequestered in that the managers used to
20:16
master the pastor's manager's office. I was like.
20:18
Seeing. This stuff about colds.
20:21
It was like. Cause
20:23
it just. Filtering into
20:25
our psyche at that point isn't
20:28
Bowlby and all of this oh
20:30
it's just it is a very
20:32
soon real time then when everything
20:34
really shit and I remember just
20:37
going live with a promo. It
20:39
was the first segment of. Wrong.
20:42
Since. The pandemic and I was doing
20:44
from. And out. Oh. I.
20:47
Get ago, St. John Barrowman. The Spurs
20:49
know the way to do this. But
20:51
I had that realization ten seconds before
20:54
realize I just caught. A. Monologue
20:56
essentially. And. Treated it
20:58
like an audition and. Astros
21:01
and okay, I think that's the way
21:03
I need to tackle these from now
21:06
on. And a least while things are
21:08
like this. and hopefully now you'll pay
21:10
more attention to the little subtleties and
21:12
the nuances and and all of the
21:15
little things that you put in there.
21:17
Because there's not a young audience, there's
21:19
no there's not an audience to play
21:21
Officer Now hopefully people were have watching
21:24
and seeing all of the little things
21:26
I want try Still getting crowds back
21:28
was so much. Don't like change on
21:30
Pc? Yeah. I know it's like a
21:32
look back on a white man. First full
21:35
year of my come back and it was
21:37
nobody there. You. Know obviously bigger
21:39
fish to fry you know, like boo
21:41
hoo for me right? Licenses and. Was
21:44
here poor unfortunate life. you're still
21:46
on live tv right? I got
21:48
it's are tough but like they're
21:50
still part is that the first
21:52
year what it really works but
21:54
at the same time as leaned
21:57
into whatever deposits could be and
21:59
from that. Once we got audiences
22:01
back like a shot I learned that
22:03
I could keep some of the things
22:05
that worked there and and told them
22:07
into this new phase of of what
22:09
resting on television as guess it's such
22:11
a weird time to think that it
22:13
was so recent but it feels like
22:15
forever ago. Three it feels like decades
22:17
ago already. Brain is also just shows
22:19
how doctor but we are as a
22:21
human race to soldier on but he
22:23
added to i feel like a long
22:25
time ago and I'm glad it does.
22:27
Yeah definitely. So you do come after
22:29
us lying. And enter cabins.
22:31
You'd get to start performing in front
22:33
of fans. Again, you have these
22:35
amazing matches and then. From.
22:38
There you end. Up. Jumping Order A Debbie
22:40
That? What was the catalyst for that?
22:42
You know? I'd really sat down. And.
22:45
I was short. I was. nor do. I had
22:47
a match that I love to
22:49
shameless. And my home town. About
22:52
halfway through that matches with do this could
22:54
be it. Was very good chances
22:56
to be x I feel really good about
22:58
this but I knew I needed to like.
23:01
Get away from the emotions of the night,
23:04
Sit. Down wire got home. Or
23:06
my flannel on and just that, my
23:08
rock concert rice. Get a
23:11
cup of coffee, sit with my girls
23:13
and just say so what is it
23:15
was that do and what I said
23:17
the promo was true I'm they should
23:19
go be with onstage and have fun.
23:21
Not that I wasn't having fun, but
23:23
I truly felt like I could. Help
23:26
more. With. A dodgy and
23:28
be allowed to help more. Like.
23:30
I wanted to be there weekend week
23:32
out. I didn't wanna pop in every
23:34
three months or reform on a one
23:36
to be hands on because I felt
23:38
like that's the way I could help
23:40
more often just by constantly being there,
23:42
by constantly sitting with talent or watching
23:44
their stuff for or whatever that is
23:46
are getting in the ring with them.
23:49
You know, getting hands on that are.
23:51
You really really do some things So.
23:53
More than anything I think it was that
23:55
just looking at the totality, the industry grail
23:57
keyword with order to possibly help or. Given
24:00
the opportunity out watch and it was
24:02
a W and and then I looked
24:04
at the roster and that for me
24:06
was a bitch because I just started
24:08
running down the list. must have that
24:10
much. All. Would be
24:12
Speak was never worked with had never
24:15
rush it and it was. Almost
24:17
everybody like in Idea sounds
24:19
roster that it's a. Like.
24:22
Even guys that you would assume like
24:24
me and small a job with northern
24:26
Lights wild sex crazed rights get.to me
24:28
was one that when are we we
24:31
have to rectify that swift and have
24:33
to make. A mess
24:35
as a mother, loves his stuff and
24:37
and moxley like box with i've never
24:40
touched in this incarnation. be of this
24:42
or geek tradition and. Oh
24:44
man I'm I'm Jones and for that
24:46
once linear swerved catching fire Who have
24:49
always you know him? I've always had
24:51
great relationship have always. Seen.
24:53
What I think everybody else is starting. To.
24:55
Really grasp onto now he asked
24:58
to box You know like Claudio
25:00
on I have never been on
25:02
a ring together of. Our
25:06
how's that Happened? Like even even Bride
25:08
and I. Have. Only had one
25:10
singles matches with four minutes long and then
25:13
we added triple threat. And. But as
25:15
yet, like we've never shot blocker these
25:17
guys one on one you can see
25:19
God bless like you is just name
25:22
after name after name after names and
25:24
and actions. Really really exciting to me.
25:26
says this deep in my career. Think
25:29
I'm thirty two years and outs to
25:31
have a whole set of new challenges.
25:34
That. That's just my hair stand up because.
25:36
The challenges of my saying right at I
25:39
always try to set you challenges for myself
25:41
because otherwise the I just need that there
25:43
was a chance come back in which up
25:45
a few so I like nobody's done before.
25:47
okay right of give it a shot Hold
25:50
my beer is this is all one hundred
25:52
foothold muskets. Such as
25:54
a suspect and fans and looking at
25:56
this roster just he was super excited
25:58
that was before Asked. And
26:00
I was before Okada, Omega and I
26:02
have never touched by. seriously I think
26:04
about those matches those names like. So.
26:08
That's why you know the a real yes,
26:10
There's only so much to do. With.
26:13
Dubbed of you eat and I feel like I've
26:15
done it off and I feel if we both
26:17
thought that way it was just times and. To.
26:19
Look at this this new company, this
26:21
exciting company and and I'd I'd watch
26:24
and I'd be I'd be stopped and
26:26
be funded. Get their be awful flawed
26:28
and that I had friends and at
26:30
talk to them like you have a
26:32
lot of fun. At and honestly to
26:34
stage a license of years old the smartphone not
26:36
I do with. The water
26:38
reasons but. Yeah
26:40
the that the main thing was just the
26:43
exciting other, the challenge of it on the
26:45
roster. A Decide if you're not having fun,
26:47
you should do it independent If you're twenty
26:49
thirty, forty fifty sixty, however old you are
26:51
like wrestling is meant to be fun whether
26:53
he or the performing or you're watching and
26:55
or whatever. Yeah, and that's one of the
26:57
reasons why I have loved having you as
26:59
a coworker is it's very clear to see
27:01
that you are having fun the right or
27:03
else and it feels like people like find
27:05
that hard to believe that that it's work.
27:07
but you're having fun like this is ever
27:09
wondered? Do there? There's nothing else. That was on
27:11
my doctor. This was it. And.
27:13
I'm good with and I did do a for
27:15
this long. And I guess a do
27:18
it at a level that I've done it
27:20
and seen the things. I've seen a work.
27:22
The people have worked there are not a
27:24
bad about that. I'd love it and honestly
27:26
I I'm so excited just the the list
27:28
you named. There's so much I want to
27:30
get talking about and it'll be on the
27:32
other side of the break because we're going
27:34
to get their right here would aid of
27:36
you Unrestricted Continued. Eight
27:41
of you unrestricted Audrey Edwards Will Washington
27:44
and were with our guest of honor.
27:46
He has won only Rated R Superstars
27:48
Adam Copeland cause I'm getting really adjusted
27:51
the same Cope I see it on
27:53
all your gear, see it on your
27:55
shirts and my coat outside. It's it's
27:57
it's secular with me. like of software.
28:00
Nightmare Three the other day he's like. I.
28:02
Know I'm is one thing and is all
28:04
the Nomad Motel cove I'm gonna stick with.
28:06
Hope I know Cope and I can get
28:09
with Cope yeah you know he I was
28:11
on of just like okay. As I'm
28:13
looking at Marquee, Adam, two of
28:15
them versus thing. Court versus thing
28:17
now of guy that killed while sexier
28:19
isn't maybe not the right word, but
28:21
you know, I
28:24
don't think anybody would would turn me in
28:26
versus exactly but he out of this is
28:28
that is this is jumps off the I'd
28:30
I'd like it I genuinely do a it
28:32
is already grown on me. One of the
28:34
things you mentioned know was that a giving
28:36
back and it's one of my favorite things
28:38
to watch actually backstage. I sit back and
28:40
I observe it on because I think it's
28:42
really cool when after somebody match I want
28:45
to sit with them and talk about. What?
28:47
You saw what you felt they could have
28:49
worked odds. I watched after the ladies have
28:51
a street fight on just a few weeks
28:53
ago and you were talking with everything one
28:55
of them and it's one of the things
28:57
that I think everybody at some point I
28:59
think feels that they would like to get
29:01
back to the business at some point for
29:03
and getting to watch you do that as
29:05
been really cool to see and a see
29:07
it every single week. And for those who
29:09
don't know this is something that Adam Copeland
29:12
does and it's It's really great. I.
29:14
Had plenty of other
29:16
examples. That. Ah
29:18
showed me. That. That's. What
29:20
you should do. Over the years of
29:23
I saw a bad News brown, a
29:25
farce or Rick Martel of us I
29:27
would just pick their brains you know
29:29
and and I think they saw. That.
29:31
It was genuine. That. I really didn't
29:33
wanna know what he.in there please Not
29:36
so me. And because you've been places
29:38
that I want to get to I've
29:40
watched matches of yours that caused me
29:43
to seal and I want to make
29:45
people feel sad do with if I
29:47
can be any small cogs in in
29:49
the wheel of making some one cetera
29:52
crossed great or or even just open
29:54
their eyes to something or open their
29:56
ears to something because it's a collaborative
29:59
saying and. I don't
30:01
know if if my experience over the years
30:03
in in any way health than that's another
30:05
reason why I signed with a W. Because.
30:08
I truly thought okay with my
30:10
experience. I. I could help some people
30:12
that I see your pride on that cost. I
30:14
see it on with who. I don't even know what they
30:16
see it yet, but I see it. That's. One.
30:19
Like. I said I had so many people over the
30:21
years between. Bad. News and
30:23
Notes or Rick Martel, Michael Hayes
30:26
laptop Patterson's of Tom Pritchard stores
30:28
function the brush. All of those
30:30
people took their time. To.
30:32
Sit with me, Teach me, talk to
30:34
me and I'll I'll never forget it
30:37
like those lessons are interested. In.
30:39
My brain so life and
30:41
it really is fun to
30:43
sit down and just. Stop.
30:46
It up with some young talent you know
30:48
law sit down. started doing overseer. You.
30:50
Know where and even when we wrestled I was like.
30:53
Try this. Feel this out. How that
30:55
the oh yeah, that was really really
30:57
fun. It's really really slow. I wrestled
30:59
Dante. I was like okay dude, Celts
31:01
sister I want to tell. Your
31:03
strength to swine so I want to take later
31:06
equilibrium. Like a orchard near. As.
31:08
Like are you feel about that He like. You.
31:11
To tell you can throw off. but I was. I. Was
31:14
just as receive. It. Was so much
31:16
fun Suited to give it a try and see
31:18
if see what's next. That's.
31:20
Always been part of of this
31:22
that I really loved is just
31:24
sitting down and collaborating and and
31:26
ah either helping are being health
31:28
so. You're. doing all these
31:31
great things for our up and
31:33
coming roster and implanting this amazing
31:35
had a feeling of bros amongst
31:37
all of us. Light I know like
31:39
you and I haven't sat down. To like download
31:42
after a match but I distinctly remember
31:44
like you and Garcia talking afterwards and
31:46
I'm just sitting there like soaking and
31:48
everything like a sponge and recite this
31:50
match was great Now let me learn
31:52
everything about how all of them approached
31:54
it and thought about it. What not.
31:56
So on the other side is you're
31:58
working with someone who you've known for
32:00
you there's in crushing cage Yeah I
32:02
was sitting at home watching this I
32:04
Quit match you. Got the title back
32:06
because you had the title before It
32:08
ended up giving the short Israeli company history.
32:10
but you've got the title. Bad: How
32:12
do you approach something like that? When.
32:15
You've known someone for so long and you have
32:17
all this history together. As opposed to all these other
32:20
matches you're doing in the Cope Open. Again,
32:22
Back to the the challenge of or
32:24
write or draw your from wrestling of
32:27
a grifters right? Who's just. So.
32:30
Ya. For a kid and great guy
32:32
and and so much upside and so
32:34
much potential to then getting your nerve
32:36
with a guy that has been best
32:38
friends with for four years and to
32:41
his for doing this for thirty years.
32:43
So between us we are was six
32:45
years of experience in there. I always
32:47
say like it's it's surplus or it's
32:49
almost pure joy would you suggest for
32:51
we'd be in the moment. And.
32:53
Use them for we. You're. Taking
32:56
everything. yeah you're taking and crowd
32:58
reactions are taking and just every
33:00
little bits for the have time
33:02
to because there's no. There's.
33:04
No far, you're just doing. Dot
33:07
to me is when the really really
33:09
that the magic text base side or
33:11
know where that came from by when
33:13
I'm feeling that it's a great phrase
33:15
I suffer such but it is. Just.
33:17
A joy honestly to be in
33:20
there and just to. Just
33:22
perform and and have no real
33:24
plot other them. Ya.
33:26
These people can get off on this
33:29
list is gonna be fun for to
33:31
be hockey fly off I lost. It
33:33
at the Hockey Fight, the Bruins jersey, the Maple
33:35
Leafs jersey, and and in Nevada. Sees I was
33:37
Die. There are so many so many
33:39
aspects of were just so fun and
33:41
really another one of the reasons why
33:44
Wonders and A W. I. Wanted
33:46
to. For us
33:48
to get our proper. Sense.
33:51
To tell. This. Story.
33:54
That. I don't feel like we were ready when
33:56
the it when we had the chance before. Twenty.
33:59
Some odd years. Though I felt like now
34:01
the performer the she is now to
34:03
performed the i hope I am now
34:05
I knew it was just gonna be
34:08
so much different and it's exactly the
34:10
way I thought it would be and
34:12
then some. Just. So much fun! And
34:14
then. To. Get In! There were cardona.
34:16
Who I'd never arrested before?
34:19
Subarus plenty of times. But
34:21
to see and feel his
34:23
growth is he blew me
34:25
away. With. Just how
34:27
much of a professional Cs helps
34:29
all wish to is a good
34:31
serious again. It was one of
34:33
those moments where I to just.
34:36
Totally. Be in the moment and
34:38
just soak it all and in here
34:40
at all and steal it all. Map
34:43
that nice like daughter. That. That's
34:45
what you do. it really is those a
34:47
laser with this is of work. It's
34:50
it's. really not. What? It's like dashed
34:52
and when it's is when you've always wanted
34:54
do like to. There's no other way to
34:56
put it on. What's left is due to
34:58
the world because I know the small percentage
35:00
of people that that decided they're gonna be
35:02
something and they got to do. I am
35:05
one of those people and I know how
35:07
rare that is so I don't miss any
35:09
of this. I don't look past anybody especially
35:11
and the pulled away for nine years. That's
35:13
what every little. Every little thing
35:15
man I'm to soak it up and enjoying
35:17
it for all it's worse because again he
35:19
always with my age with my injuries I
35:21
know zoc a loss for adults so I
35:23
just one make sure like every little bit
35:26
of it is is gonna be is going
35:28
to witness a life that amazing and and
35:30
it's amazing to because I remember I admitted
35:32
it to Christian almost right before the match.
35:34
You know the emissions, getting to do it
35:36
you guys way and getting to do it
35:38
properly and getting to tell you guys a
35:40
story that's one of the things I've always
35:42
appreciated about aid of you in a. I
35:45
really appreciated it the first time. Remember when
35:47
Jimmy Jacob started Neda Beauty walks in He
35:49
could go and honestly three different directions because
35:51
it's like okay here's people I know from
35:53
debate of you he over here. But.
35:55
I'll hear the people I know from T in
35:57
eighth grade here oh my god this people enough
36:00
ring of honor and and they all knew him
36:02
from a different space but everybody had come together
36:04
in a really reminded me of What Aid of
36:06
You Is and. Seeing. Christian Cages
36:08
rise over the years and seeing what he became
36:11
A how he really got to find himself as
36:13
a single performer and as a top level thing
36:15
of performer, anti and A all those years than
36:17
to come to a W in and find himself
36:20
that way to using music that he established in
36:22
T an eighth. But here he is with the
36:24
they Christian Cage name it All of that and
36:26
in here you are where you've established your name
36:28
elsewhere. But. Everything is now come
36:30
together for mom of two different places in one place
36:33
but it's also two guys that we know. From.
36:36
Their partnership together and it's like only have
36:38
a w because of a Debbie's existence. Could
36:40
all of this come together the way it
36:42
has and only aid of you could make
36:44
that happen. What? And and that's why
36:46
the other night, you know when I when
36:48
I accept that promo it wasn't really promo.
36:50
I was just saying what I felt isn't
36:52
I've always just enjoyed pro wrestling. Period.
36:55
I think it's a great time
36:58
to be in the industry. It's
37:00
a great time to be a
37:02
fan of the industry. I I've
37:04
never understood why people get so
37:06
fixated on initials. I just love
37:08
good wrestling and I also appreciate
37:10
a place where. You. Can
37:12
tap into a wrestling fans memory.
37:15
Because. I'm always said received fans remember
37:17
and the wanna be rewarded for remembering the
37:19
want to be rewarded for being there for
37:21
the long haul and man I'd have discussions
37:23
about it and will be skyn Remember not
37:26
be some numbers like. War with that
37:28
attitude Now. But. I'm
37:30
the i may well and if they
37:32
don't that's what packages for isn't put
37:34
any. But I digress. So I guess
37:36
here and win back for don't as
37:38
music get on. The
37:41
remember wrestling fans remember and the dates
37:43
they want be rewarded for these things
37:45
And to see these things that the
37:47
never thought they'd get a chance to
37:50
see. That's what why I think a
37:52
w so much fun because truly. I.
37:55
Actually go for a couple, but who knows. his
37:57
commercial on. May. I list.
38:00
And that's not even within a
38:02
W. Show. That happened
38:04
here and and that's a really fun
38:07
place to navigate from. The
38:09
i really just a long get on that
38:11
plane every week. I really do.
38:13
You know I ate with and girls
38:15
but I love. Getting there
38:17
and and just trying to create something
38:19
and like I said, if I can
38:22
pass on anything in the meantime, while
38:24
a marriage in a bad. It's
38:26
so great because as you are saying that
38:28
I was sitting here going oh well, remembers
38:30
everything like that. just one who he is
38:32
and of course Psyches remembered your entire career.
38:34
But for me my first introduction deal was
38:36
actually because I don't watch wrestling as a
38:38
kid. My first introduction to you is your
38:40
retirement speech or get out was the first
38:42
thing I ever saw you do some like.
38:45
Okay well I know this guy is really
38:47
important in and this is really sad everyone
38:49
for very sad. Okay cool. So it's not
38:51
just all the things that you've done before
38:54
but all of the new memories are making
38:56
today. That's one of the things that I
38:58
love. Seeing you interacting with the fans is
39:00
like this moment that doesn't exist. Outside of
39:02
this present moment that we're all
39:05
going to remember forever. That's.
39:08
When this industries at it's best
39:10
right again it's It's not about
39:12
the moose those help those of
39:14
a garnish right? But. What
39:17
people really latch on to with
39:19
with with. And. Am. I
39:21
didn't realize it is what's going
39:23
on here and that's how you
39:25
make moments. Moments are are
39:27
the things that Russia remembered more. So
39:29
sorry that moves Now you'll have your
39:31
your stuff, you're in there that will
39:33
be replayed Replayed replied and and there
39:35
are dogs. Don't give the wrong but
39:38
if you do that all the time
39:40
than people to desensitize a memoir right?
39:42
So I know that spear to Jeff
39:44
Hardy some be played. From. Right
39:46
and I will move. But. When
39:48
I really thought, on to what. What?
39:51
Made the difference. It was one I started.
39:54
Paying. More attention to to hear
39:56
them to the months and that
39:58
creates moments that creates memories. So
40:01
many times like remember Omega, M, M,
40:03
Brian and what I remember most is
40:05
before the last.absolute are just standing there.
40:07
I was in that crowd and I
40:09
I I I remember Yoyos remember how
40:11
wrestling made you feel and over the
40:13
money in that crowd for that and
40:15
does that feeling of yeah by God
40:17
these two are locking eyes with each
40:19
other and I can't believe this is
40:21
happening. And yeah I do have the
40:24
is a moment you know before a
40:26
person I like locked up the other
40:28
night and like. Who. Are
40:30
feeling that. I'm. Feeling that those
40:32
those are moments you know and and use
40:34
performer you feel on to. I mean that
40:36
there's no way around it. Like if if
40:39
you're in the vicinity of that you see
40:41
what you know it's special. Yeah.
40:43
And as a beautiful thing about this novel
40:45
is related to like stand Up. He goes
40:47
he somebody and set up an actor says chilling and you
40:50
feel on your all in this thing together. But.
40:52
If you're bombing. Oh on better
40:54
better try down is that this past
40:56
it's the same of the matches. similar
40:58
stories or or like the subtlest would
41:00
be have always appreciate. Are you not
41:03
want a him shirts but us I've
41:05
heard Trojan Soldier Serum. At
41:07
least Mace because the reading room. There's.
41:10
Very few industries where you can
41:12
do that and have that kind
41:14
of interactive kind of reciprocal relationship
41:16
and I just I just find
41:19
us so fascinating. It's the human
41:21
dynamic sense in understanding what moves
41:23
a large audience and or what
41:25
moves one person that is. It's
41:27
really, really fun Poseidon to and
41:29
I'm constantly reading books on it
41:32
and trying to grasp how the
41:34
mind works. It's fun to as
41:36
you can pull it back into
41:38
this Adam Copeland. This. Has been
41:40
an amazing conversation. I was to do
41:43
that for another forty five minutes with
41:45
I guess. I have heard of plus
41:47
he had makes it easy on us men
41:49
under sent here decide what in my got
41:51
even more or less India sound system but
41:54
hey it's about creating moments about creating memories
41:56
about that feeling and you can get that
41:58
feeling when you watch aid. Dynamite. Every
42:00
Wednesday you can watch a W Collision every
42:02
Saturday aid of a Rampage. Every Friday we've
42:04
got Ring of Honor available every Thursday on
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Club Watch our Woodstock carbs and of course
42:09
we got double or nothing coming up here.
42:11
It's gonna be live on pay per view.
42:13
it's kind be at the Mcm grand so
42:15
definitely make sure to check that out a
42:17
to be take that on his way to
42:19
get your tickets otherwise and Pokemon Thanks for
42:22
being here on a W on the sickness
42:24
Thanks Rob Me Finally your to be finally
42:26
getting. A bit
42:28
better lower. It's always the first I. We'll
42:30
see next time every day.
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