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Adam Copeland

Released Thursday, 25th April 2024
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We bought the party. Thread

0:03

safe. Space

0:10

Program Make a snail thousand

0:12

nine thousand and Co made

0:15

a day. W under strict it

0:17

and the Washington Imo, Edwards and

0:19

well that we just came off

0:21

of one of the biggest paper

0:23

news of the year. We say that every

0:25

paper view but I feel. Like it becomes more more

0:27

true every time. Well think about Dynasty as

0:29

it was a new one and we had

0:31

a lot to prove. And I think that

0:33

I think we set the tone for exactly

0:35

what that event can be going forward and.

0:38

Just. Coming off of Jacksonville which is

0:40

becoming now one of my favorite places

0:42

to hit, Dude. It's so good it's one of

0:44

those things like I gave felt a little groundhog Day near

0:46

the end of the pandemic, but every time I go back

0:48

to. Jacksonville. It's It's a blast! I love it.

0:50

The thing for me is. Part. Of

0:52

it is like the experiences that you got that.

0:55

Where. Everybody always tells me. Oh.

0:57

Have you hit the for for floor yet?

0:59

like or die yet a her there are

1:01

you know Everybody tells me about the experiences

1:03

that oh I have to experience this thing

1:05

now they're like okay this you officially popular

1:07

Youtube you Jerry Now you're really here Now

1:09

You're really a part of this company sell

1:12

like ah that's what I think Jacksonville has

1:14

really gotten a do for me and so

1:16

it of course more. back for collision this

1:18

week. It's been a great time so I

1:20

am happy and I always am happy every

1:22

time somebody gets to work Jacksonville for the

1:24

first time. Yes! and of course since our

1:26

last. Run their in January without a

1:29

few name show up so I also

1:31

just call for them to get to

1:33

experience Dailies place for the first time

1:35

so that's really cool. It's. Such a

1:37

cool then you. It's just like he

1:39

you forget the like oh it's outdoors

1:41

and it's an amphitheater and it's you're

1:44

performing in a stage setting. It just

1:46

changes the feeling and the dynamic of

1:48

everything. Any other thing too is this was

1:50

my first time experience in in daylight savings time

1:53

off that Missouri winter so it was like you

1:55

person said is that really cool it's called but

1:57

anyway we've got in aid of you unrestricted to

1:59

get to. Gotta show! Yeah Do here

2:01

And Ah hey Audrey! You

2:04

know who are? Guess this today. I

2:06

think I know him. Well you

2:08

should agree because he is

2:10

the one the only the

2:13

Rated R Superstar. Adam.

2:15

Copeland Adam Thank you for finally be

2:17

Here are eight of the Under Secretary

2:20

to have you. I'd so like you

2:22

Finally Gabi with like a Wonder Woman.

2:24

Last of truth and nothing to further

2:26

has not stopped and I just nuts.

2:28

But are we found we were dented,

2:30

done some it. Yeah lug Okay

2:32

I have to say I have.

2:34

Watched. Your entire career, So.

2:37

I don't even know where exactly I want

2:39

to start is like it could easily so

2:41

the a heavy stuff when I'm like the

2:43

do like ten thousand questions are probably always

2:45

wanted to ask you so I go to

2:47

start aid of he was or at at

2:49

wrestle dream. Seattle. That.

2:52

Was. A moment that was

2:54

in something that I think everybody

2:56

was with looking for to with

2:58

excited for most like a soup

3:00

and knew that like meddling it

3:02

wasn't a song that. Was. Exclusive

3:05

to one location for but. It

3:07

still felt so real. To hear

3:10

it. Anywhere but where. We've heard

3:12

it before and all of a sudden it's

3:14

like hear That and Copeland but it's Adam

3:16

couple exactly as we know we. We don't

3:18

have to make any concessions here. and what

3:20

was that moment? like how did that feel

3:22

coming to that curtain I may have felt

3:24

really good was if strange for sure. I

3:26

mean it was all very new to me

3:28

because I've been used to one thing for

3:30

so long so was nice to be of

3:32

the bring meddling this with me to the

3:34

have that little bit avast. Something.

3:36

Familiar so that that was cool. Luckily

3:38

being friends with Alter Bridge and Add

3:41

Da those guys you know, any time

3:43

I've called do I guess you're. Just

3:45

take it and that song. Actually I

3:48

have always felt the lyrics mad something

3:50

and there's something I could relate to

3:52

so that that was huge. I was

3:54

a crazy day you know I'd been

3:57

can sequestered out average just at hiding

3:59

out, getting. Door-and just waiting is you're

4:01

wanting to get get moving on it.

4:03

Yet else thought. I'd flown in and

4:06

I met up with Darby. We just

4:08

die with Gian Carlo. We just started

4:10

to realize filming this this idea, this

4:12

treatment that I had and and I

4:14

had heard Darby was the guys that

4:17

so I just called call them to

4:19

a dart men and nice major. On

4:22

com the the company. And to

4:24

get your muscle car as an

4:26

assistant. Other other other other rest

4:28

is history to the point where

4:30

she's outside in this the street.

4:33

Or. Not the greatest neighborhood be stagnates

4:35

were flying that's where are flying it

4:37

over and and were filming and everything

4:39

and then the mariners had just one

4:42

so these didn't Fireworks started going off

4:44

to Ser de Winter's. Doesn't happen often.

4:46

See, Have no idea how right you were that

4:48

that happens. If I know. So it was

4:50

it was all like it was just so

4:52

much one the they just felt so. A

4:55

wide open. And and and so

4:57

creed us and and to be so

5:00

involved in the creative process because I

5:02

really love being involved and creative process

5:04

which heavily so. That

5:06

was my first taste of how creatively

5:09

responsible I could be for my vision

5:11

coming to life on screen here. For

5:13

those people listening and who don't live

5:15

in the Pacific Northwest ever does not

5:17

close to Seattle Cells sucess guess I

5:20

won't know that in a couple weeks

5:22

by the way, because yet actually go

5:24

to be in Everett Washington May fifteenth

5:26

Floor. Yeah, I might. Yeah, we were want to

5:28

get me out of sight. So. There

5:30

is no possibilities I just of yeah

5:33

so if one of those things one

5:35

restaurant the I use he. Would.

5:37

Soon or less. what are the

5:40

ones that are just I just

5:42

wanted not a feel for success

5:44

of yeah I remember that day

5:46

just. As like I'm I'm already in

5:48

my hometown, I'm excited. It's just a phenomenal

5:51

say. Wills already tried to hints at me

5:53

that you're coming and I totally missed it

5:55

because I'm dense. But I remember a couple

5:57

weeks before doing the mass of like, okay,

6:00

That is Dave. And then

6:02

if I count, oh, that's.

6:04

October. First, oh boy.

6:07

And I had no idea I'm scenario. With

6:09

the silliest hit by the way too because my god

6:11

for as you didn't catch it at all because of

6:14

my order to give it away, I was going to

6:16

do anything but it was like. A She

6:18

goes. Ah so what we do the

6:20

wrestle and I was like you think you know

6:22

and I would walk off and seated on cats

6:24

died whatever it. As

6:27

an old meet a man

6:29

made lox ah i see

6:31

as the one wearing. A

6:35

day to of. Clad.

6:37

You know it's when he talked about the meaning of

6:39

that sounds you by the way, like it's It's weird

6:41

in my head. it's hard to believe it's been twenty

6:43

years, but that's still like. The. New Ads

6:45

music to be right with it I

6:47

said I'd like. I remember vividly was

6:49

the I Precinct Aid versus Hurricanes you

6:51

had interrupted to promote the book. The

6:53

promo my birthday I have a most

6:56

of us I showed up with new

6:58

music and I wonder why Christian hates

7:00

me A A A A severely debuted

7:02

new music in the middle of his

7:04

match by Do had of the It's

7:06

It's a phone that everybody associates with

7:08

your career. we just aren't rato. Ah

7:10

the audience singing along with it. It's

7:13

it's great. Yeah. It's take

7:15

them on a and with zone which is is

7:17

so. You. Know it's so fun

7:19

to have it be that interactive I

7:21

guess. And and and for me to

7:24

our connect with something and it feels

7:26

like people over the years of really

7:28

kind of actually paid attention the lyrics

7:31

and with oh. A while

7:33

and an almost feels like each

7:35

incarnation a nice new chapter that

7:37

happens of almost. It's even more

7:39

like it is wrong. With. Mrs

7:41

I always said to me music

7:43

is one of the most important

7:45

aspects of your presentation. It really

7:47

is because it sets the tone,

7:50

it sets, the mood is causes

7:52

the explosion it causes. whatever that's

7:54

worth me as negative or positive.

7:56

To. Me: It's. It starts everything because

7:58

that the minute you. Through. And

8:01

your first thing. that's when the presentation

8:03

starts. That's one.your package is being you

8:05

know, shown to the world and what

8:07

you wanna put out there. So it's

8:09

it's started music and I just think

8:12

of one. I was a kid and

8:14

one certain guys. Or. Girls because

8:16

it would have until it's okay. It's

8:18

on. Sort. Out the very important

8:20

to be avoided. Very hands on with. With.

8:22

The music with with the visuals and

8:25

and really or presentation. it's such a

8:27

part of you and who you are

8:29

as a wrestler and history that we've

8:31

seen for so long. But. Now you're

8:33

Adam Copeland at a Eat Etti a Cd

8:36

to bring this part of you with you.

8:38

But what has sort of been your favorite

8:40

part of discovering who you are in aid

8:43

of you? space? More. Than

8:45

anything are utilized as were introduced myself

8:47

as any other name besides out of

8:49

me by somebody say utmost Michoacan us

8:51

played once different characters one i just

8:53

happened apply for a long time that

8:55

people are really use do this as

8:58

I guess even since I came back

9:00

you know at the rumble their years

9:02

ago this has been. The. Closest

9:04

to Adam. That. I've been.

9:07

There's not a huge difference between the

9:09

care to see on t them person's

9:11

obviously ramped up. I don't run around

9:14

attacking people on the streets of that

9:16

we know of the I saw that

9:18

had been charged for and was a

9:20

more than anything. It's just.you know the

9:23

story, You know my story. Everybody knows

9:25

the surgeries, everybody knows the injuries and

9:27

once you know that in once the.

9:30

I guess decreased and feel back on

9:32

everything. Know that? I went through

9:35

to get this back. It's much closer

9:37

to me and the actual person and

9:39

and the father and that partner and

9:42

then it is. You know when it

9:44

was this mysterious and it mattered character

9:46

or something it's are pretty much as

9:48

me now except I wear a leather

9:51

vest and settled finalists well and a

9:53

you were getting to know is. The.

9:55

Courage. Raining. And and defending

9:58

T and T champion. You

10:00

know, in it's existence in a W

10:02

pretty much since it was introduced, and

10:04

Twenty Twenty has been a title really

10:06

associated with that open Challenge format. The

10:08

idea that anything can happen when this

10:10

title is on the line and so

10:12

far with you you kind of really

10:14

brought that back there. What is that

10:16

means you? What Are you expecting To

10:18

continue on with this rain. I

10:21

The Jays really really put

10:23

some owners tax on a

10:25

championship. Really made it feels.

10:28

Like. Must Sees television ads are want

10:30

to continue that but I sought by

10:32

I need to continue a different way

10:34

so in between having that my to

10:37

title rains I thought the cop open

10:39

would be cool to earn the shot

10:41

back but also kind of open the

10:43

door to the could be anybody. And

10:46

that means it's Suzuki one week.

10:48

It's Griff Garrison that's three moriarity.

10:51

It's Dante Martin, a standard Garcia.

10:53

it's mattered on in peril. That's

10:55

really fun to me. It's also

10:58

fun as performer to go. Those

11:00

are all completely different stats. Like.

11:02

There's not one guy out of

11:04

that that that a similar. That's

11:07

really cool because I love trying

11:09

to put on a different hats

11:11

reach each account because always tried

11:13

to challenge myself to go. Okay

11:15

right if I'm rushing this guy.

11:17

I can adapt from roughing this guy, I

11:20

can adapt. That's a really fun challenge though

11:22

because sometimes maybe you don't adapt but it's

11:24

fun to find out. It just are you

11:26

finding out on live television successful? That could

11:29

be bit of a pressure cooker but it's

11:31

just a lot of fun. It really isn't

11:33

a feels like all bets are off was

11:35

and but it would show up. So look

11:38

at a free agent. it's possibility trust me.

11:40

I'm looking at them and on going to

11:42

who have already done my homework. In

11:44

and that's really really fun just to keep

11:46

people on their toes. And and if you

11:49

see you know a cop segment the who

11:51

knows guy who's gonna show up. I think

11:53

that's one. Good. I think that's the

11:55

part that makes. This entire run

11:57

of yours in the existence of it feels

11:59

so. Real right? Like I owe.

12:01

I'd I thought about it the

12:03

moment suzuki with having his entrance.

12:05

yeah I was like god If

12:08

you're told twenty eighteen me that

12:10

Adam Copeland. Was. Going to

12:12

be wrestling here. And not

12:14

just wrestling here is gonna be wrestling

12:16

Menorah Suzuki! On. A that be

12:18

done my like you want a computer To

12:20

me what vivid said says it says none

12:23

of this sounds right whatsoever but here at

12:25

is happening and it's entirely possible and of

12:27

the baby so grateful may be feel like

12:29

this is a really cool thing that's happening.

12:31

I mean there are multiple fronts. There was

12:33

no E W I was retired yeah like

12:35

A like I said you know what when

12:37

I was forced to retire I was told

12:39

that was it. You are dogs There is

12:41

no no comes back. So for me the

12:43

ship sailed and it wasn't like on the

12:45

rise and it was long gone. like nine

12:47

years. Knowledge was two years

12:49

now. He was three years. Or four

12:51

years. Or five years or so. We're

12:54

almost a decade and a retired, right?

12:56

Yeah, that was. That is just all

12:58

of this has been such. A

13:01

second act I guess really and and

13:03

watch them really thought about it is

13:05

that I feel like I brought back

13:07

more mentally with me. You know, physically

13:09

I might not be able to do

13:11

some things my brain wants to tell

13:13

me, but I feel like. Because.

13:16

Of my experience but not just experience

13:18

and ring more my life experience now

13:20

raising kids, going through that site within

13:23

an injury and then and then turning

13:25

to acting and doing you know like

13:27

a hundred episodes television Lives retired That

13:29

that really helped me bring some different

13:32

tools and into my yeah my bad.my

13:34

utility belt to to bring back with

13:36

me. That's been really fun to explore.

13:39

It's almost made me enjoy yard of

13:41

the promo more than the matches at

13:43

times. Realizing the importance

13:46

of that the and and

13:48

was storytelling tool that we

13:50

have our disposal. If we

13:52

can try and and really. Master

13:54

this fake news know for we mastering it

13:56

but getting as close as you can and

13:58

and and finding your. Wilson and I think

14:01

is really really important than and gum. What's

14:03

been really fun to is the just sitting

14:05

down with younger talent or you know if

14:07

you want to pick my brain I pulled

14:09

everybody. I'm I'm wide open. I'm here. Here's

14:12

my number. My. Taking you dare

14:14

to gets. Kids. Like dogs

14:16

all that stuff. but I'll get to

14:18

it and I and I watch it

14:20

and ah madame we can sit down

14:22

appeal apart together that doesn't really fun

14:25

process just to see light bulb starts

14:27

to go off the people the locale

14:29

tried actually my not work for them

14:31

but. He. Was you see Civil

14:33

Wars for you? This is work for me. There's

14:35

so many things you said that I want to

14:38

talk more about and I'm so excited that we

14:40

are actually great. Like like a know that moral

14:42

the Come Back Here I need of unrestricted. Eat

14:48

any under six It other Edwards Will watches

14:50

and Adam Copeland. It's got so many things

14:53

such that unreal. Like sitting here just like

14:55

fully inspired by this conversation. We got

14:57

to for segments to come up. so you.

14:59

You touch on a little bit before the break. That

15:02

you've got really into acting and doing

15:04

Tv in over one hundred up. So

15:06

the television. While you were retired

15:08

from what. Was that process like

15:10

getting into acting and what has

15:12

that brought to you from a

15:15

wrestling. Perspective. I didn't fully realize what

15:17

it rocks. mutilated back acting was it

15:19

was a happy accident. Do I never

15:21

had aspirations? I never wanted that to

15:23

be my career. I was pro wrestler

15:26

first batch if that was the and

15:28

game and that's all ever wondered do

15:30

but when you're told you can't do

15:32

it gotta wrap your mind around cheap

15:34

stuff and.luckily large or to Bruce for

15:36

show called haven or that Silvers. They

15:38

saw my retirement speech and they six

15:41

weeks back guy. Isn't one out

15:43

there? In one episode turned and forty

15:45

one in the process I learned this

15:47

is really asked. My. That

15:49

the is cool Gadgets is

15:51

not wrestling. You. Don't have that

15:54

instant gratification to know what to do

15:56

and working if people are picking up

15:58

which put downs but. It's

16:00

still very creative and is still happening under

16:02

that create a vain and I and I

16:04

need that the I think anybody who's involved

16:06

and and wrestling is a creative person so.

16:09

It. Became kind of my place to

16:12

still. Get. That out and

16:14

song love with it started putting

16:16

work toward it. I just talked

16:18

to directors. Tortured. You

16:20

know the Dp on Go Okay why we

16:23

live in this way? Why we do and

16:25

that sir, Why we doing this angle. Why

16:27

we get the you know just just and

16:29

and talking to other actors and and saying

16:32

watchmaker twice. With. the

16:34

not questioning had but wondering

16:36

learning. Yeah. Yeah to the

16:38

point where probably annoying people but that's that's

16:40

what I didn't wrestling you know I just

16:43

ask questions if I was on an empty

16:45

shelves and bad news Brown was on it.

16:47

I was one streets bad news one of

16:50

very what he doesn't because my ears are

16:52

wide open and die. I want to be

16:54

the same way on a set In

16:56

coming back to wrestling I realized how many

16:58

different things. That I

17:00

could because. As. Much or

17:03

third the different. there still seems

17:05

religious sense, different branches right? It

17:08

was fascinating, said to kind of comeback

17:10

like a said with a promo and

17:12

and realize how to use movement? How

17:14

to use stillness to make me more

17:17

how to use your eyes because everything

17:19

whole that these things so often arresting

17:21

where it gets hot up and moves

17:23

and spots and you know sequences or

17:26

whatever the terms are nowadays. But give

17:28

me these all day and I'm gonna

17:30

get more cross with those than I

17:32

will buy during. As you know, I

17:34

shook stocks. plus I can't do once

17:37

so there's that. It's

17:39

it's. crazy. Because like I have, twenty

17:41

years of valet experience and you saying

17:43

the eyes It's like we were frequently

17:45

told during her Celtic. okay, what are

17:47

your eyebrows do x Yeah, it's every

17:49

little saying. You don't realize how every

17:51

part of you encompasses the story you're

17:53

telling until you think about like, where

17:55

are my fingers pointing when I'm doing

17:57

this scene yeah, what am I look.

18:00

Yeah, what did my body language? Where's the

18:02

camera coming in from? It's just

18:04

fascinating stuff. Better. With already for

18:06

when i first started acting or a

18:08

sob story before to there's director name

18:10

is our we rose we're doing some

18:12

my first close up to him i

18:14

was just do and wrestling thing is

18:16

what i know rights isn't bad she

18:19

came up to me after with takes

18:21

was armed suspects what what's he doing

18:23

with your eyes there and i went.

18:25

On how would my don't she

18:27

was stopped doing. And omelet. Okay

18:30

will show me cause I've no idea

18:32

what you're talking about. Such posey. back

18:34

to monitor we're looking at all aboard.

18:36

I was like a madman. more here.

18:39

my eyebrows, real, my eyes on. I'm

18:41

like. Oh. I'm going

18:43

for football stadium and him and this

18:45

isn't that. You can see my nose

18:47

hairs so. Bad

18:50

here. And make sure that

18:52

I. Don't. Look like a maniac

18:54

because the seem to recall for that sort.

18:56

Took some getting used to sit to pull

18:58

everything back and then coming back to wrestling

19:01

where you want everything to do that again.

19:03

I realize now you can still use those

19:05

things. You just gotta make sure the time's

19:07

right, the cameras hot so you're always. I'm

19:10

always aware of where we are, what's going

19:12

on, and and trying to play the coordinates.

19:14

Lot of place to keep in the air

19:17

up there. and that's also one of the

19:19

things that I've always wondered. Professional wrestling have

19:21

much more of an understanding. Of now in

19:23

this rotten than I did. My first thought. That's

19:25

the thing I wanted to ask you because you

19:27

know, talking about coming out of acne and everything

19:30

you picked up from it, you know you got

19:32

to return. A professional wrestling in a manner that

19:34

I don't think any of us will ever forget

19:36

is that was one of those you know with

19:38

the day Koby Bryant dies although it's associated with

19:40

phrase that and I was the I know like

19:43

sad all day and and it's like. Oh.

19:45

My God Adams back, what are we talking about

19:47

here? A nice area. was like this range

19:49

of emotions for that day, but. You.

19:51

Know talking about. Coming from

19:53

acting. You. Know you got to return

19:56

to a world you new. Are. Almost

19:58

He thought you do. Because. The.

20:01

Pandemic? It? Yeah. right. After that he

20:03

did, you feel like. What? You

20:05

were able to do. In. Acting really

20:07

enhanced with you are able to do without

20:09

an audience. Yeah, you know he is

20:11

weird even that day as I was kind

20:13

of sequestered in that the managers used to

20:16

master the pastor's manager's office. I was like.

20:18

Seeing. This stuff about colds.

20:21

It was like. Cause

20:23

it just. Filtering into

20:25

our psyche at that point isn't

20:28

Bowlby and all of this oh

20:30

it's just it is a very

20:32

soon real time then when everything

20:34

really shit and I remember just

20:37

going live with a promo. It

20:39

was the first segment of. Wrong.

20:42

Since. The pandemic and I was doing

20:44

from. And out. Oh. I.

20:47

Get ago, St. John Barrowman. The Spurs

20:49

know the way to do this. But

20:51

I had that realization ten seconds before

20:54

realize I just caught. A. Monologue

20:56

essentially. And. Treated it

20:58

like an audition and. Astros

21:01

and okay, I think that's the way

21:03

I need to tackle these from now

21:06

on. And a least while things are

21:08

like this. and hopefully now you'll pay

21:10

more attention to the little subtleties and

21:12

the nuances and and all of the

21:15

little things that you put in there.

21:17

Because there's not a young audience, there's

21:19

no there's not an audience to play

21:21

Officer Now hopefully people were have watching

21:24

and seeing all of the little things

21:26

I want try Still getting crowds back

21:28

was so much. Don't like change on

21:30

Pc? Yeah. I know it's like a

21:32

look back on a white man. First full

21:35

year of my come back and it was

21:37

nobody there. You. Know obviously bigger

21:39

fish to fry you know, like boo

21:41

hoo for me right? Licenses and. Was

21:44

here poor unfortunate life. you're still

21:46

on live tv right? I got

21:48

it's are tough but like they're

21:50

still part is that the first

21:52

year what it really works but

21:54

at the same time as leaned

21:57

into whatever deposits could be and

21:59

from that. Once we got audiences

22:01

back like a shot I learned that

22:03

I could keep some of the things

22:05

that worked there and and told them

22:07

into this new phase of of what

22:09

resting on television as guess it's such

22:11

a weird time to think that it

22:13

was so recent but it feels like

22:15

forever ago. Three it feels like decades

22:17

ago already. Brain is also just shows

22:19

how doctor but we are as a

22:21

human race to soldier on but he

22:23

added to i feel like a long

22:25

time ago and I'm glad it does.

22:27

Yeah definitely. So you do come after

22:29

us lying. And enter cabins.

22:31

You'd get to start performing in front

22:33

of fans. Again, you have these

22:35

amazing matches and then. From.

22:38

There you end. Up. Jumping Order A Debbie

22:40

That? What was the catalyst for that?

22:42

You know? I'd really sat down. And.

22:45

I was short. I was. nor do. I had

22:47

a match that I love to

22:49

shameless. And my home town. About

22:52

halfway through that matches with do this could

22:54

be it. Was very good chances

22:56

to be x I feel really good about

22:58

this but I knew I needed to like.

23:01

Get away from the emotions of the night,

23:04

Sit. Down wire got home. Or

23:06

my flannel on and just that, my

23:08

rock concert rice. Get a

23:11

cup of coffee, sit with my girls

23:13

and just say so what is it

23:15

was that do and what I said

23:17

the promo was true I'm they should

23:19

go be with onstage and have fun.

23:21

Not that I wasn't having fun, but

23:23

I truly felt like I could. Help

23:26

more. With. A dodgy and

23:28

be allowed to help more. Like.

23:30

I wanted to be there weekend week

23:32

out. I didn't wanna pop in every

23:34

three months or reform on a one

23:36

to be hands on because I felt

23:38

like that's the way I could help

23:40

more often just by constantly being there,

23:42

by constantly sitting with talent or watching

23:44

their stuff for or whatever that is

23:46

are getting in the ring with them.

23:49

You know, getting hands on that are.

23:51

You really really do some things So.

23:53

More than anything I think it was that

23:55

just looking at the totality, the industry grail

23:57

keyword with order to possibly help or. Given

24:00

the opportunity out watch and it was

24:02

a W and and then I looked

24:04

at the roster and that for me

24:06

was a bitch because I just started

24:08

running down the list. must have that

24:10

much. All. Would be

24:12

Speak was never worked with had never

24:15

rush it and it was. Almost

24:17

everybody like in Idea sounds

24:19

roster that it's a. Like.

24:22

Even guys that you would assume like

24:24

me and small a job with northern

24:26

Lights wild sex crazed rights get.to me

24:28

was one that when are we we

24:31

have to rectify that swift and have

24:33

to make. A mess

24:35

as a mother, loves his stuff and

24:37

and moxley like box with i've never

24:40

touched in this incarnation. be of this

24:42

or geek tradition and. Oh

24:44

man I'm I'm Jones and for that

24:46

once linear swerved catching fire Who have

24:49

always you know him? I've always had

24:51

great relationship have always. Seen.

24:53

What I think everybody else is starting. To.

24:55

Really grasp onto now he asked

24:58

to box You know like Claudio

25:00

on I have never been on

25:02

a ring together of. Our

25:06

how's that Happened? Like even even Bride

25:08

and I. Have. Only had one

25:10

singles matches with four minutes long and then

25:13

we added triple threat. And. But as

25:15

yet, like we've never shot blocker these

25:17

guys one on one you can see

25:19

God bless like you is just name

25:22

after name after name after names and

25:24

and actions. Really really exciting to me.

25:26

says this deep in my career. Think

25:29

I'm thirty two years and outs to

25:31

have a whole set of new challenges.

25:34

That. That's just my hair stand up because.

25:36

The challenges of my saying right at I

25:39

always try to set you challenges for myself

25:41

because otherwise the I just need that there

25:43

was a chance come back in which up

25:45

a few so I like nobody's done before.

25:47

okay right of give it a shot Hold

25:50

my beer is this is all one hundred

25:52

foothold muskets. Such as

25:54

a suspect and fans and looking at

25:56

this roster just he was super excited

25:58

that was before Asked. And

26:00

I was before Okada, Omega and I

26:02

have never touched by. seriously I think

26:04

about those matches those names like. So.

26:08

That's why you know the a real yes,

26:10

There's only so much to do. With.

26:13

Dubbed of you eat and I feel like I've

26:15

done it off and I feel if we both

26:17

thought that way it was just times and. To.

26:19

Look at this this new company, this

26:21

exciting company and and I'd I'd watch

26:24

and I'd be I'd be stopped and

26:26

be funded. Get their be awful flawed

26:28

and that I had friends and at

26:30

talk to them like you have a

26:32

lot of fun. At and honestly to

26:34

stage a license of years old the smartphone not

26:36

I do with. The water

26:38

reasons but. Yeah

26:40

the that the main thing was just the

26:43

exciting other, the challenge of it on the

26:45

roster. A Decide if you're not having fun,

26:47

you should do it independent If you're twenty

26:49

thirty, forty fifty sixty, however old you are

26:51

like wrestling is meant to be fun whether

26:53

he or the performing or you're watching and

26:55

or whatever. Yeah, and that's one of the

26:57

reasons why I have loved having you as

26:59

a coworker is it's very clear to see

27:01

that you are having fun the right or

27:03

else and it feels like people like find

27:05

that hard to believe that that it's work.

27:07

but you're having fun like this is ever

27:09

wondered? Do there? There's nothing else. That was on

27:11

my doctor. This was it. And.

27:13

I'm good with and I did do a for

27:15

this long. And I guess a do

27:18

it at a level that I've done it

27:20

and seen the things. I've seen a work.

27:22

The people have worked there are not a

27:24

bad about that. I'd love it and honestly

27:26

I I'm so excited just the the list

27:28

you named. There's so much I want to

27:30

get talking about and it'll be on the

27:32

other side of the break because we're going

27:34

to get their right here would aid of

27:36

you Unrestricted Continued. Eight

27:41

of you unrestricted Audrey Edwards Will Washington

27:44

and were with our guest of honor.

27:46

He has won only Rated R Superstars

27:48

Adam Copeland cause I'm getting really adjusted

27:51

the same Cope I see it on

27:53

all your gear, see it on your

27:55

shirts and my coat outside. It's it's

27:57

it's secular with me. like of software.

28:00

Nightmare Three the other day he's like. I.

28:02

Know I'm is one thing and is all

28:04

the Nomad Motel cove I'm gonna stick with.

28:06

Hope I know Cope and I can get

28:09

with Cope yeah you know he I was

28:11

on of just like okay. As I'm

28:13

looking at Marquee, Adam, two of

28:15

them versus thing. Court versus thing

28:17

now of guy that killed while sexier

28:19

isn't maybe not the right word, but

28:21

you know, I

28:24

don't think anybody would would turn me in

28:26

versus exactly but he out of this is

28:28

that is this is jumps off the I'd

28:30

I'd like it I genuinely do a it

28:32

is already grown on me. One of the

28:34

things you mentioned know was that a giving

28:36

back and it's one of my favorite things

28:38

to watch actually backstage. I sit back and

28:40

I observe it on because I think it's

28:42

really cool when after somebody match I want

28:45

to sit with them and talk about. What?

28:47

You saw what you felt they could have

28:49

worked odds. I watched after the ladies have

28:51

a street fight on just a few weeks

28:53

ago and you were talking with everything one

28:55

of them and it's one of the things

28:57

that I think everybody at some point I

28:59

think feels that they would like to get

29:01

back to the business at some point for

29:03

and getting to watch you do that as

29:05

been really cool to see and a see

29:07

it every single week. And for those who

29:09

don't know this is something that Adam Copeland

29:12

does and it's It's really great. I.

29:14

Had plenty of other

29:16

examples. That. Ah

29:18

showed me. That. That's. What

29:20

you should do. Over the years of

29:23

I saw a bad News brown, a

29:25

farce or Rick Martel of us I

29:27

would just pick their brains you know

29:29

and and I think they saw. That.

29:31

It was genuine. That. I really didn't

29:33

wanna know what he.in there please Not

29:36

so me. And because you've been places

29:38

that I want to get to I've

29:40

watched matches of yours that caused me

29:43

to seal and I want to make

29:45

people feel sad do with if I

29:47

can be any small cogs in in

29:49

the wheel of making some one cetera

29:52

crossed great or or even just open

29:54

their eyes to something or open their

29:56

ears to something because it's a collaborative

29:59

saying and. I don't

30:01

know if if my experience over the years

30:03

in in any way health than that's another

30:05

reason why I signed with a W. Because.

30:08

I truly thought okay with my

30:10

experience. I. I could help some people

30:12

that I see your pride on that cost. I

30:14

see it on with who. I don't even know what they

30:16

see it yet, but I see it. That's. One.

30:19

Like. I said I had so many people over the

30:21

years between. Bad. News and

30:23

Notes or Rick Martel, Michael Hayes

30:26

laptop Patterson's of Tom Pritchard stores

30:28

function the brush. All of those

30:30

people took their time. To.

30:32

Sit with me, Teach me, talk to

30:34

me and I'll I'll never forget it

30:37

like those lessons are interested. In.

30:39

My brain so life and

30:41

it really is fun to

30:43

sit down and just. Stop.

30:46

It up with some young talent you know

30:48

law sit down. started doing overseer. You.

30:50

Know where and even when we wrestled I was like.

30:53

Try this. Feel this out. How that

30:55

the oh yeah, that was really really

30:57

fun. It's really really slow. I wrestled

30:59

Dante. I was like okay dude, Celts

31:01

sister I want to tell. Your

31:03

strength to swine so I want to take later

31:06

equilibrium. Like a orchard near. As.

31:08

Like are you feel about that He like. You.

31:11

To tell you can throw off. but I was. I. Was

31:14

just as receive. It. Was so much

31:16

fun Suited to give it a try and see

31:18

if see what's next. That's.

31:20

Always been part of of this

31:22

that I really loved is just

31:24

sitting down and collaborating and and

31:26

ah either helping are being health

31:28

so. You're. doing all these

31:31

great things for our up and

31:33

coming roster and implanting this amazing

31:35

had a feeling of bros amongst

31:37

all of us. Light I know like

31:39

you and I haven't sat down. To like download

31:42

after a match but I distinctly remember

31:44

like you and Garcia talking afterwards and

31:46

I'm just sitting there like soaking and

31:48

everything like a sponge and recite this

31:50

match was great Now let me learn

31:52

everything about how all of them approached

31:54

it and thought about it. What not.

31:56

So on the other side is you're

31:58

working with someone who you've known for

32:00

you there's in crushing cage Yeah I

32:02

was sitting at home watching this I

32:04

Quit match you. Got the title back

32:06

because you had the title before It

32:08

ended up giving the short Israeli company history.

32:10

but you've got the title. Bad: How

32:12

do you approach something like that? When.

32:15

You've known someone for so long and you have

32:17

all this history together. As opposed to all these other

32:20

matches you're doing in the Cope Open. Again,

32:22

Back to the the challenge of or

32:24

write or draw your from wrestling of

32:27

a grifters right? Who's just. So.

32:30

Ya. For a kid and great guy

32:32

and and so much upside and so

32:34

much potential to then getting your nerve

32:36

with a guy that has been best

32:38

friends with for four years and to

32:41

his for doing this for thirty years.

32:43

So between us we are was six

32:45

years of experience in there. I always

32:47

say like it's it's surplus or it's

32:49

almost pure joy would you suggest for

32:51

we'd be in the moment. And.

32:53

Use them for we. You're. Taking

32:56

everything. yeah you're taking and crowd

32:58

reactions are taking and just every

33:00

little bits for the have time

33:02

to because there's no. There's.

33:04

No far, you're just doing. Dot

33:07

to me is when the really really

33:09

that the magic text base side or

33:11

know where that came from by when

33:13

I'm feeling that it's a great phrase

33:15

I suffer such but it is. Just.

33:17

A joy honestly to be in

33:20

there and just to. Just

33:22

perform and and have no real

33:24

plot other them. Ya.

33:26

These people can get off on this

33:29

list is gonna be fun for to

33:31

be hockey fly off I lost. It

33:33

at the Hockey Fight, the Bruins jersey, the Maple

33:35

Leafs jersey, and and in Nevada. Sees I was

33:37

Die. There are so many so many

33:39

aspects of were just so fun and

33:41

really another one of the reasons why

33:44

Wonders and A W. I. Wanted

33:46

to. For us

33:48

to get our proper. Sense.

33:51

To tell. This. Story.

33:54

That. I don't feel like we were ready when

33:56

the it when we had the chance before. Twenty.

33:59

Some odd years. Though I felt like now

34:01

the performer the she is now to

34:03

performed the i hope I am now

34:05

I knew it was just gonna be

34:08

so much different and it's exactly the

34:10

way I thought it would be and

34:12

then some. Just. So much fun! And

34:14

then. To. Get In! There were cardona.

34:16

Who I'd never arrested before?

34:19

Subarus plenty of times. But

34:21

to see and feel his

34:23

growth is he blew me

34:25

away. With. Just how

34:27

much of a professional Cs helps

34:29

all wish to is a good

34:31

serious again. It was one of

34:33

those moments where I to just.

34:36

Totally. Be in the moment and

34:38

just soak it all and in here

34:40

at all and steal it all. Map

34:43

that nice like daughter. That. That's

34:45

what you do. it really is those a

34:47

laser with this is of work. It's

34:50

it's. really not. What? It's like dashed

34:52

and when it's is when you've always wanted

34:54

do like to. There's no other way to

34:56

put it on. What's left is due to

34:58

the world because I know the small percentage

35:00

of people that that decided they're gonna be

35:02

something and they got to do. I am

35:05

one of those people and I know how

35:07

rare that is so I don't miss any

35:09

of this. I don't look past anybody especially

35:11

and the pulled away for nine years. That's

35:13

what every little. Every little thing

35:15

man I'm to soak it up and enjoying

35:17

it for all it's worse because again he

35:19

always with my age with my injuries I

35:21

know zoc a loss for adults so I

35:23

just one make sure like every little bit

35:26

of it is is gonna be is going

35:28

to witness a life that amazing and and

35:30

it's amazing to because I remember I admitted

35:32

it to Christian almost right before the match.

35:34

You know the emissions, getting to do it

35:36

you guys way and getting to do it

35:38

properly and getting to tell you guys a

35:40

story that's one of the things I've always

35:42

appreciated about aid of you in a. I

35:45

really appreciated it the first time. Remember when

35:47

Jimmy Jacob started Neda Beauty walks in He

35:49

could go and honestly three different directions because

35:51

it's like okay here's people I know from

35:53

debate of you he over here. But.

35:55

I'll hear the people I know from T in

35:57

eighth grade here oh my god this people enough

36:00

ring of honor and and they all knew him

36:02

from a different space but everybody had come together

36:04

in a really reminded me of What Aid of

36:06

You Is and. Seeing. Christian Cages

36:08

rise over the years and seeing what he became

36:11

A how he really got to find himself as

36:13

a single performer and as a top level thing

36:15

of performer, anti and A all those years than

36:17

to come to a W in and find himself

36:20

that way to using music that he established in

36:22

T an eighth. But here he is with the

36:24

they Christian Cage name it All of that and

36:26

in here you are where you've established your name

36:28

elsewhere. But. Everything is now come

36:30

together for mom of two different places in one place

36:33

but it's also two guys that we know. From.

36:36

Their partnership together and it's like only have

36:38

a w because of a Debbie's existence. Could

36:40

all of this come together the way it

36:42

has and only aid of you could make

36:44

that happen. What? And and that's why

36:46

the other night, you know when I when

36:48

I accept that promo it wasn't really promo.

36:50

I was just saying what I felt isn't

36:52

I've always just enjoyed pro wrestling. Period.

36:55

I think it's a great time

36:58

to be in the industry. It's

37:00

a great time to be a

37:02

fan of the industry. I I've

37:04

never understood why people get so

37:06

fixated on initials. I just love

37:08

good wrestling and I also appreciate

37:10

a place where. You. Can

37:12

tap into a wrestling fans memory.

37:15

Because. I'm always said received fans remember

37:17

and the wanna be rewarded for remembering the

37:19

want to be rewarded for being there for

37:21

the long haul and man I'd have discussions

37:23

about it and will be skyn Remember not

37:26

be some numbers like. War with that

37:28

attitude Now. But. I'm

37:30

the i may well and if they

37:32

don't that's what packages for isn't put

37:34

any. But I digress. So I guess

37:36

here and win back for don't as

37:38

music get on. The

37:41

remember wrestling fans remember and the dates

37:43

they want be rewarded for these things

37:45

And to see these things that the

37:47

never thought they'd get a chance to

37:50

see. That's what why I think a

37:52

w so much fun because truly. I.

37:55

Actually go for a couple, but who knows. his

37:57

commercial on. May. I list.

38:00

And that's not even within a

38:02

W. Show. That happened

38:04

here and and that's a really fun

38:07

place to navigate from. The

38:09

i really just a long get on that

38:11

plane every week. I really do.

38:13

You know I ate with and girls

38:15

but I love. Getting there

38:17

and and just trying to create something

38:19

and like I said, if I can

38:22

pass on anything in the meantime, while

38:24

a marriage in a bad. It's

38:26

so great because as you are saying that

38:28

I was sitting here going oh well, remembers

38:30

everything like that. just one who he is

38:32

and of course Psyches remembered your entire career.

38:34

But for me my first introduction deal was

38:36

actually because I don't watch wrestling as a

38:38

kid. My first introduction to you is your

38:40

retirement speech or get out was the first

38:42

thing I ever saw you do some like.

38:45

Okay well I know this guy is really

38:47

important in and this is really sad everyone

38:49

for very sad. Okay cool. So it's not

38:51

just all the things that you've done before

38:54

but all of the new memories are making

38:56

today. That's one of the things that I

38:58

love. Seeing you interacting with the fans is

39:00

like this moment that doesn't exist. Outside of

39:02

this present moment that we're all

39:05

going to remember forever. That's.

39:08

When this industries at it's best

39:10

right again it's It's not about

39:12

the moose those help those of

39:14

a garnish right? But. What

39:17

people really latch on to with

39:19

with with. And. Am. I

39:21

didn't realize it is what's going

39:23

on here and that's how you

39:25

make moments. Moments are are

39:27

the things that Russia remembered more. So

39:29

sorry that moves Now you'll have your

39:31

your stuff, you're in there that will

39:33

be replayed Replayed replied and and there

39:35

are dogs. Don't give the wrong but

39:38

if you do that all the time

39:40

than people to desensitize a memoir right?

39:42

So I know that spear to Jeff

39:44

Hardy some be played. From. Right

39:46

and I will move. But. When

39:48

I really thought, on to what. What?

39:51

Made the difference. It was one I started.

39:54

Paying. More attention to to hear

39:56

them to the months and that

39:58

creates moments that creates memories. So

40:01

many times like remember Omega, M, M,

40:03

Brian and what I remember most is

40:05

before the last.absolute are just standing there.

40:07

I was in that crowd and I

40:09

I I I remember Yoyos remember how

40:11

wrestling made you feel and over the

40:13

money in that crowd for that and

40:15

does that feeling of yeah by God

40:17

these two are locking eyes with each

40:19

other and I can't believe this is

40:21

happening. And yeah I do have the

40:24

is a moment you know before a

40:26

person I like locked up the other

40:28

night and like. Who. Are

40:30

feeling that. I'm. Feeling that those

40:32

those are moments you know and and use

40:34

performer you feel on to. I mean that

40:36

there's no way around it. Like if if

40:39

you're in the vicinity of that you see

40:41

what you know it's special. Yeah.

40:43

And as a beautiful thing about this novel

40:45

is related to like stand Up. He goes

40:47

he somebody and set up an actor says chilling and you

40:50

feel on your all in this thing together. But.

40:52

If you're bombing. Oh on better

40:54

better try down is that this past

40:56

it's the same of the matches. similar

40:58

stories or or like the subtlest would

41:00

be have always appreciate. Are you not

41:03

want a him shirts but us I've

41:05

heard Trojan Soldier Serum. At

41:07

least Mace because the reading room. There's.

41:10

Very few industries where you can

41:12

do that and have that kind

41:14

of interactive kind of reciprocal relationship

41:16

and I just I just find

41:19

us so fascinating. It's the human

41:21

dynamic sense in understanding what moves

41:23

a large audience and or what

41:25

moves one person that is. It's

41:27

really, really fun Poseidon to and

41:29

I'm constantly reading books on it

41:32

and trying to grasp how the

41:34

mind works. It's fun to as

41:36

you can pull it back into

41:38

this Adam Copeland. This. Has been

41:40

an amazing conversation. I was to do

41:43

that for another forty five minutes with

41:45

I guess. I have heard of plus

41:47

he had makes it easy on us men

41:49

under sent here decide what in my got

41:51

even more or less India sound system but

41:54

hey it's about creating moments about creating memories

41:56

about that feeling and you can get that

41:58

feeling when you watch aid. Dynamite. Every

42:00

Wednesday you can watch a W Collision every

42:02

Saturday aid of a Rampage. Every Friday we've

42:04

got Ring of Honor available every Thursday on

42:07

Club Watch our Woodstock carbs and of course

42:09

we got double or nothing coming up here.

42:11

It's gonna be live on pay per view.

42:13

it's kind be at the Mcm grand so

42:15

definitely make sure to check that out a

42:17

to be take that on his way to

42:19

get your tickets otherwise and Pokemon Thanks for

42:22

being here on a W on the sickness

42:24

Thanks Rob Me Finally your to be finally

42:26

getting. A bit

42:28

better lower. It's always the first I. We'll

42:30

see next time every day.

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