The conversation discusses the recent ruling by the International Criminal Court (ICC) regarding Israel's actions in Gaza. It explores the response from different countries and the implications for the international rule-based order. The debate on whether the situation in Gaza constitutes genocide is also examined. 

The conversation highlights the role of media coverage and the hypocrisy of some countries. It concludes by discussing the potential recourse for other countries and the importance of self-determination. 

This conversation explores various themes related to international justice, global power dynamics, and the plight of marginalized communities. It highlights the imbalance of international criminal justice, with a focus on the lack of accountability for powerful nations. 

The rise of BRICS nations and their efforts to create equity in the world are discussed. South Africa's action on behalf of Palestinians and the Yemeni crisis are also examined. The conversation delves into the impact of blockades and insurance consequences, as well as the need to reevaluate the charity system. 

The importance of critical thinking and silence is emphasized, along with the disparity in museums' approach to repatriation. The crumbling system and poverty in the UK are addressed, as well as the ongoing struggle for justice and accountability.