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Hamza Yassin on watching the same eagles for eight years and how Strictly changed his life

Hamza Yassin on watching the same eagles for eight years and how Strictly changed his life

Released Wednesday, 27th September 2023
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Hamza Yassin on watching the same eagles for eight years and how Strictly changed his life

Hamza Yassin on watching the same eagles for eight years and how Strictly changed his life

Hamza Yassin on watching the same eagles for eight years and how Strictly changed his life

Hamza Yassin on watching the same eagles for eight years and how Strictly changed his life

Wednesday, 27th September 2023
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0:09

Being a wildlife cameraman wasn't just

0:11

something Hamzi Yassin wanted to do, it

0:13

was the only thing he wanted to

0:15

do. Inspired by the Attenborough

0:18

documentaries he learned English from after his parents

0:20

moved to the UK from Sudan, he

0:22

gave everything to make his dream a reality.

0:25

A dream he never dreamt about though, was

0:27

lifting the glitter ball on Strictly Come Dancing.

0:30

Strictly was just a whirlwind of adventure.

0:33

It was the glitz, the glam, the sparkles,

0:36

the outfits and at first it took

0:38

me by surprise.

0:39

I don't want to put makeup on. Oh,

0:41

I wouldn't look nice in that suit. Suits don't

0:43

really suit me. By the end of it I

0:45

was like a diva and I'm like, yes, bring it to

0:47

me more please. The brighter

0:49

the better, the more sparkles the better. And

0:52

it's just funny, the best

0:54

thing that I did and a few other contestants on

0:56

the show did was just let

0:59

loose, embrace it because it's

1:01

an amazing, amazing experience.

1:05

Join Hamza now for a hilly hike to

1:07

a spot from which he's watched the same pair of eagles

1:09

for eight years, where the Ardenmerken

1:11

Peninsula stretches away beneath you and

1:13

the sea sparkles a bit like

1:16

a sequined waistcoat.

1:33

My name's Hamza Yassin. I'm a wildlife

1:35

cameraman and I live in the West Coast of Scotland

1:37

and I've been living here for the last 12, 13 years

1:42

and I'm about to go up and

1:45

do the regular check of my white-tailed eagle nest.

1:47

And I say my white-tailed eagle, to be honest, they're not

1:50

mine, they belong to everybody, but this

1:52

is the particular pair that I've been following

1:54

for the last eight years and

1:56

I've got a special licence

1:58

from National Wildlife Service. Scotland

2:01

to look

2:04

at them and film them and

2:07

get up close but because it's broad

2:09

daylight I'm just gonna go and

2:11

I use this term loosely,

2:14

inspectigate the nest just

2:17

kind of check out the nest from a distance and

2:20

make sure that everything's going all well. It's

2:25

an absolutely beautiful day

2:28

there's not a single cloud to

2:30

be in the sky. It's the typical

2:32

picturesque image that you get off the west coast of

2:34

Scotland with the blue sky

2:37

and green mountains. We've

2:40

got a little lock in nearby that

2:42

hopefully when we get up to the top we'll see it and

2:44

we're very very close

2:47

to Loch Soonart at the moment and

2:49

yeah it's a it's a beautiful day. Everybody

3:01

goes to their special place and

3:04

my special place is always somewhere

3:06

with eagles and my

3:09

favourite pair to film are

3:12

Agatha and Lawrence and

3:14

people say you've named the eagles and I go yeah

3:17

he sounds like a Lawrence and

3:19

Agatha because she's

3:21

like an old lady she gets him to

3:24

do all the hard work and as soon as

3:26

he comes back to the hide with a bit of food she

3:29

calls at him and moans at him and

3:31

he then has to go off and go and find some more food

3:34

even though he brought her a razorbill

3:37

to eat or a gillimot to eat so

3:39

it's a lovely old relationship between

3:42

the two of them and I

3:45

don't normally name my wildlife but because

3:48

I've been following this particular pair for

3:51

nearly eight years now it's

3:53

kind of like a personal thing to me. There's

4:05

a chaffinch calling in the corner and

4:07

it's like... Just

4:13

seeing it disappeared over in the far

4:16

side of the tree. This

4:18

time of the year the place is humming

4:21

with bird life and dawn choruses

4:24

and everything's trying to nest and if it's not

4:26

nesting it's trying to mate. It's

4:30

really beautiful to sit and hear

4:32

what all the birds sound like. It's a great opportunity.

4:36

Hopefully along the way up we might see a few skylarks

4:38

displaying and calling and they'll have a really

4:40

beautiful call where they go up higher

4:43

and higher and higher and higher and eventually

4:45

they're just a speck in the sky. But

4:48

that's a fitness mechanism. The females

4:50

want to pick the highest male that

4:52

goes the furthest that shouts the loudest

4:55

and then on their way down they do this beautiful parachuting

4:58

where they go...

5:01

And they do this beautiful display and they land on the floor and they're

5:04

like... Right round two and then they start flying up

5:06

again. So hopefully we'll hear one. I

5:23

was born in Sudan and

5:26

I came to the UK when I was eight. Not

5:29

speaking a word of English. I had four words

5:31

with me. Please

5:34

thank you pizza and chips. That

5:37

was the four things that I wanted. I

5:39

had the pleasantries

5:41

drilled into me by my parents and I really

5:43

wanted to try pizza and chips because I heard that's

5:45

what the western world eats. So

5:48

yeah, I fell in love with

5:50

the natural world in Africa not knowing that I was in

5:53

a privileged location to

5:56

see what I saw there. We had hippos,

5:59

crocodiles, and other things. We lived about 800 meters

6:01

away from the Nile. And you hear

6:03

all these stories of the wildlife and the hyena

6:06

men from Hara. And

6:08

coming to the UK at first glance it looks

6:11

barren. It looks like there's nothing here. But

6:13

in reality it's chock-a-blocked

6:16

full of wildlife. You just need to know where to look. And

6:20

my interest of the natural world was already inbuilt

6:22

in me. It just took the time of

6:24

learning and following people and going to bird reserves

6:27

to then fall in love

6:30

with birds. And birds, the way I see birds,

6:32

it's kind of like the gateway drug into the

6:35

natural world. You start off with

6:37

birds and then you go on to mammals and then potentially

6:39

moths and then the bigger better things,

6:41

mammals. I love my mammals. But

6:44

birds are my staple, staple

6:47

diet. There's

7:01

a snipe. So

7:04

if you see it, it's

7:06

about to just go land. It's just landed. Did

7:09

you see it? So the snipe

7:11

have this beautiful call. They've got two

7:13

kind of calls. One's a tick-tock,

7:15

tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock sound. And

7:17

then there's the drumming sound. And you

7:20

hear this... And

7:25

that's basically the outer two

7:27

tail feathers. They,

7:30

as the snipe dives to the

7:32

ground, they jot out at 90 degrees

7:35

and they make that sound. It's a vibration

7:37

against the wind. And the faster

7:40

the snipe dives from a higher distance,

7:42

the longer the sound is, the deeper the sound

7:45

is. And to the female snipes, that's

7:47

like, hey, how you doing?

7:50

And that's what they're wanting.

7:52

They're wanting the... Hence

7:55

where you get the name sniper in

7:57

the shooting terms. If you can flush a snipe...

8:00

and shoot it, that means you're a good marksman.

8:03

That's where the term smithers and swim. When

8:18

I came to the UK, not speaking a word of English,

8:22

my parents turned on the TV, and

8:24

the first thing that I was seeing was

8:26

Sir David Attenborough narrating Life of Birds.

8:29

And I fell in love with that, I'm

8:31

going, oh, don't understand a word that

8:34

man is saying, but I'm loving the

8:36

wildlife, I'm loving the birds. And

8:38

some of the birds were like, oh, that's

8:40

similar to the ones that we have back home. So

8:42

it kind of gave me a little comfort thing.

8:45

But then as I started learning about

8:48

birds and learning English, I

8:50

learned how to turn on the TV, and I went to the Discovery

8:52

Channel, and then lo and behold,

8:55

Steve Owen was there. And

8:57

he just opened up the world to me, him and

9:00

Attenborough, because Attenborough

9:03

had the knowledge, and the ease, and

9:06

he puts you at ease watching

9:08

these documentaries. Steve Owen does

9:11

the complete opposite, but he still

9:13

hooks you in. And

9:16

we, me, my family, growing

9:18

up in Sudan, we had the Nile Crocs nearby,

9:21

and everyone says, Crocs in the water, don't go in, don't

9:24

touch it, leave it alone. Everything is just

9:27

based out of fear, the knowledge that we have. Whereas

9:30

Steve Owen brought something such as

9:32

the croc, and made

9:35

me understand it in a different way. And

9:37

that was the beauty about it. And I was like, I

9:40

want to be like these two guys,

9:42

so David Attenborough and Steve Owen. And if I can't be them,

9:45

I'll be the cameraman that films them, because I love

9:47

photography. And I'm like, okay, mix

9:49

the two together, we have a wildlife cameraman.

9:52

And that's kind of where my job started. I got

9:54

into dentistry, my whole family

9:56

are medics. And when it came time

9:58

for me to choose. I felt the pressure

10:01

and I'm like I'm gonna be a dentist like

10:03

my brother and then I got

10:05

into dentistry Four months

10:08

before I started I went

10:10

up to my parents plucked up the courage and said to them Is

10:12

it alright if I do something that I really want to do

10:15

rather than just follow the trend because

10:18

I'm severely dyslexic And I

10:20

know that I'm not gonna be able to cope with everything

10:23

when it comes to the medical side And they were like

10:25

we support you 100% of the way and

10:28

what do you want to be? I said I want to be a zoologist in

10:30

a wildlife camera lab cool Let's

10:33

find your university, and I went to the one of the world's

10:35

best universities Bangor, North

10:37

Wales and Yeah

10:42

I look back at it, and I think that was the best one

10:44

of the best decisions in my life To

10:46

go study zoology that it's well renowned for its zoology

10:49

and even more so for its marine biology And

10:51

so David Attenborough got a honorary degree

10:53

from there I think a year

10:56

or two before I started and just

10:58

last year I received the same degree as

11:00

him so for me that is kind of like mind-boggling

11:03

to think that I Here's

11:07

this young kid who likes nature

11:09

and Has fallen

11:11

in love with it, and now he's following

11:14

in his idol foot I

11:27

Lot of people ask why I went on strictly

11:30

seeing as I'm a nature lover and Best

11:32

place to find me is off of health and work covered in ticks

11:35

and mud, but in reality I'm

11:38

I'm eclectic. I like collecting things. I

11:41

ride a unicycle I like juggling

11:43

I shoot a bow and arrow and it's

11:45

the weird things in life that kind of interest me and For

11:49

me I love dancing,

11:52

but I never really thought there's much to it I

11:54

love Kaylee dancing in particular Incidentally

11:57

would dance a party or something along

11:59

those lines but I did

12:01

not think A,

12:04

I'd be a presenter and B, get

12:06

asked to go on strictly and if

12:09

you ever get the chance to get asked on strictly,

12:11

which I know for a lot of people that's a

12:14

non-impossible thing that's going to happen, but take

12:17

it up because it changed

12:19

my world completely. I've

12:23

now married 16 million people

12:26

with my love of the natural world without

12:29

knowing. I love the natural

12:31

world and I thought okay go on there, second

12:34

week is when they keep the first person out, I

12:36

have a little bit of fun, maybe I'll learn a dance

12:39

or two and then you know talk about

12:41

the natural world and that's it, there we go, done. I

12:45

think it was 14 weeks later, three

12:47

months later, I am being uvita

12:50

and I have been crowned king and queen

12:52

and yeah it's mind-boggling

12:55

really. I get

12:57

to present more, people

13:00

get to see that I love the natural world and hopefully

13:03

people then start caring about the natural world as

13:05

much as I do and they can run

13:07

with it. So if I teach one person how

13:09

to look after a particular animal, hopefully

13:12

that button gets passed on and my

13:15

true love is watching the next generation

13:18

be inspired.

13:35

Now we're coming

13:37

up to my friend

13:40

Rocky and

13:43

there's a special tradition that you've got to do with Rocky,

13:46

you've always got to greet him, say hello and give

13:49

him two taps with the

13:51

walking stick and to

13:54

anyone else they would probably think I've lost my

13:56

marbles by this point but This

14:00

is the moment where I always used to take a break. And

14:03

here he is. What up,

14:05

Rocky? How

14:07

you doing, big man? Hope you're

14:09

well. This is the infamous

14:12

Rocky. That's

14:14

the rock that I send

14:16

postcards to from Antarctica

14:19

and six months later, the

14:21

postcard arrives and I actually come up and

14:23

read it to it. This particular rock

14:25

is when, as I'm coming up the hill, trying

14:28

to film those eagles, I'll always

14:31

find myself stopping here, taking a breath. And

14:34

I realized this is

14:36

where I'm doing this. So I've named the rock Rocky,

14:38

but it actually became a moment where

14:42

you kind of do a little bit of meditation or

14:45

you're having a tough day, you

14:48

go for a walk. Where do I go to? I

14:50

found myself coming up here all the time

14:53

because I love the eagles. But before

14:55

I even get to the eagles in the wintertime, I stop

14:57

off at Rocky. You've got

14:59

this amazing view looking over to Mull and

15:02

down the sound of Mull. And it became

15:04

kind of my quiet spot. To

15:07

just sit, enjoy life, and

15:09

an eagle happens to go fast. Just. This

15:25

place is fantastic when

15:27

it comes to wildlife, just

15:29

because it's a peninsula. And

15:32

because it's a peninsula, we're

15:34

surrounded by the sea on three sides.

15:37

And that adds to the variety of wildlife

15:39

that we can get here. We've got the moorlands

15:42

for the golden eagles. And

15:45

we've got the forests for the white

15:48

tails. But you've

15:50

got the pine martens, the grouse.

15:55

The seabird life is

15:59

out of this world. The cetaceans have

16:01

got orcas, Jonko and Aquarius come

16:04

round on a regular basis, common

16:06

dolphins, bottle nose dolphins, the

16:09

place is teeming with wild. I've

16:12

been lucky enough to go all over the world

16:15

and see most of the seven

16:17

continents and my favourites are

16:20

the arctic. But saying

16:23

that, there's nothing like

16:25

being at home and knowing that the

16:27

wildlife is all around

16:29

you. And as we speak there's a group of

16:32

eight or nine stags halfway

16:35

up the hill and this is exactly

16:37

the reason why I love living here

16:39

in the west coast. There's just nothing like

16:41

being back home and coming back home to

16:44

the west coast of Scotland. I'm honestly

16:47

one of the luckiest wildlife cameramen, even

16:50

more so one of the luckiest people to be living

16:53

where I am and making a living out

16:55

of the natural world. A lot

17:06

of people ask me if I'm ever lonely

17:08

here living in a place by

17:10

myself and I

17:13

say 100% no. I might

17:16

get the odd one day a year where

17:19

I feel lonely and all I

17:21

then have to do is ask the neighbour, hey you

17:24

want to come over for dinner and there's always someone

17:27

willing to shake you off on offer or

17:30

food. So I'm never

17:32

lonely here, I'm surrounded by people

17:34

who love me and surrounded

17:37

by a place that I love.

17:39

And if you want to have

17:41

your peace and quiet this place gives you

17:44

that opportunity and if you want to be social,

17:47

by God can you be social. I

17:49

am more social here in

17:51

the west coast of Scotland than I've ever

17:53

been in the middle of a town or a city.

18:09

So now we're approaching the

18:12

true eagle territory where

18:15

by getting close to the nest I'm going

18:17

to go up and sit my favourite spot that

18:21

is somewhat flat in

18:23

this hilly terrain and

18:26

hopefully I can spot

18:28

an eagle.

18:40

So the nest is probably

18:44

about 400 metres beneath us and

18:46

this is the beauty about this particular nest that it's

18:50

a nest where if you look into it you

18:52

can see the eggs. You can see

18:54

the mum, the dad sitting on there

18:56

incubating the eggs with no

19:00

ease. Inside the hide

19:03

I can see the retina of the eagles.

19:05

It's a phenomenal place

19:08

to be but I'm probably

19:10

about three four hundred metres above it and

19:14

the birds at the moment

19:16

don't know I'm here and even if they do see

19:18

me they'll fly straight past

19:21

and they'll go straight in but

19:23

all I'm gonna do now is sit down get

19:26

my binoculars out and scan

19:28

the tops of the trees see if I can spot

19:31

the male. It's

19:42

very rare that you get to look down on birds

19:44

of prey and this is the unique

19:47

thing about being in this particular part of

19:49

the world and this particular nest.

19:53

Most of the time when people see an eagle

19:55

then looking up at it where

19:57

here I have the pleasure of looking down

19:59

on

19:59

them and filming their backs, giving

20:02

them the presence, the

20:06

beauty that they deserve to be filmed properly

20:09

rather than a black and white bird up

20:11

in the sky and it's silhouetted most

20:13

of the time.

20:18

It's very rare that you get to see an eagle at

20:20

eye level and

20:23

because we've climbed so high up I

20:26

have the pleasure of sitting here and enjoying it

20:28

really. At

20:43

first they come and take a close look and once they

20:46

figure out it's me, they

20:48

kind of say, he's back again. This

20:50

is his eighth year and he

20:53

doesn't do much, he doesn't harm us. A

20:57

lot of the times I would sit and

20:59

lie on my back and

21:01

just watch the eagle soaring above me.

21:22

That was an absolutely

21:25

beautiful walk but I do have to admit

21:27

that whilst we saw the nest and

21:30

where the eagles lived we didn't actually

21:32

see any eagles. Until

21:34

at the very last minute, whilst we were almost

21:37

back to the start point of the hike, one went

21:39

soaring high, high above us. And

21:42

as the times have said it has probably been watching us

21:44

the whole time. Next

21:47

time on our last episode in the series you'll

21:49

be walking with Sarah Wilson, an award-winning

21:52

author, presenter, thinker and constant

21:54

traveller who'll talk about using hiking

21:57

to ground herself in new places. I'm

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