As we continue to butcher the pronunciation of Gaugamela, Warren Frey rejoins the team as we debate whether it’s reassuring or depressing that The Expanse’s future is just as screwed up as 2020! We debate Season 5’s special effects, marvel at Amos Burton the Nurturer, indulge in yet another Babylon 5 reference, and come to terms with the fact that the legs have been kicked out from under the solar system’s status quo.

Chip Sudderth, Warren Frey, Kayti Burt and Jen Burt.