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Heritage Tourism in Lake Murray Country

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Wednesday, 9th November 2022
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Welcome to the Lake Murray Country

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podcast, your official source

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for all fantastic things to do in

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capital city Lake Murray country.

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This is where you'll find information on

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where to stay. What to do,

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places to eat, and so much

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more. To plan your next trip.

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In each episode, we will explore

0:22

the top southern destinations of

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Columbia, Lexington, Newbury

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and Saluda to make

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like.

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I've never felt so great. I get

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to love my.

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And still so much to see you

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bringing out the best in me.

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Hey, you make me can.

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There's still so much. You

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make me cry. Like

0:55

Murray Country is a military history

0:57

buffs dream. Our state's military

1:00

tradition started in the Revolutionary

1:02

War, grew in the Civil War and continues

1:04

today. Within a short drive

1:06

from late Murray, you can be in historic

1:09

Columbia and explore a wide

1:11

variety of historical sites, museums,

1:13

monuments and more. The

1:15

Civil War Relic Room has artifacts

1:18

from the Civil War, Revolutionary

1:20

War, and many other wars that were

1:22

fought overseas by brave South

1:24

Carolinians. Hi,

1:28

I'm Jo Long. I am the education

1:31

curator for a South Carolina

1:34

military history museum. The

1:36

South Carolina Confederate Relic

1:38

Room and Military Museum,

1:41

the oldest museum with the longest

1:43

name in town.

1:45

So for people who don't know what

1:47

all is in the Relic Room.

1:49

Well, we have a very

1:52

rich collection. In

1:54

fact, we've been a museum since 1896,

1:58

and the ladies who began our

2:00

place were wives

2:02

or widows of southern soldiers

2:05

from the 1860s, and they

2:07

collected as much as they could from

2:09

that war. And

2:11

within two years, they

2:13

saw their kids go to the Spanish-American

2:15

War and they decided, Hey,

2:17

this mission is bigger than just the 1860s,

2:21

and began to collect things from

2:23

South Carolina service people in all

2:25

of our wars. So we

2:27

have a great many things on display

2:30

from the revolution through the 20th

2:32

century. The best

2:34

collection that exists of South Carolina

2:37

historic flags, weapons

2:40

and uniforms, but also homefront

2:43

things from all eras.

2:46

And at any one time we have our

2:48

main gallery, which is probably

2:51

about 80% civil War period.

2:54

We have our Mulvaney

2:56

Guest gallery, a smaller

2:58

room where we do a special topic.

3:00

Right now it's on South Carolina

3:03

Silversmiths and Sword Smits and Gun

3:05

Makers. It's called Plowshares

3:07

to Swords. And then

3:09

we have our secondary gallery

3:13

almost as big as the main one where we do

3:15

a special topic. And that one's

3:17

been closed since before COVID,

3:20

and it's going to reopen on

3:22

Veterans Day with South Carolinians

3:25

in Vietnam.

3:26

That's awesome. So it sounds like it's

3:28

not just Civil War history. It is

3:30

a lot of history.

3:32

No, we are the the best Civil

3:34

War museum, in my humble

3:36

opinion. But that's not all we

3:38

are. That's right.

3:40

That's exciting. So I know the original

3:43

reliquary was in the state house, but y'all are now

3:45

actually at another location.

3:47

That's correct. We share the old

3:50

Columbia Mills building with

3:53

the South Carolina State Museum,

3:56

two museums and one building where

3:59

good friends with our neighbors

4:01

here, our neighbors and colleagues. But we

4:03

are two different museums in

4:05

the same building.

4:06

So two museums, the same building. I

4:08

mean, that's a great way that you

4:10

could get to see a lot of history just in one

4:12

day.

4:13

Sure. Sure. And we share the parking

4:15

lot with yet a third museum,

4:18

which is adventure. So

4:21

the visitor who's interested can

4:23

see three museums without

4:25

getting back into the vehicle. Our

4:28

children's museum, a general interest

4:31

museum, and also ourselves, a

4:33

special specialized military

4:35

history museum.

4:37

And going back to the Civil War, I don't

4:40

think a lot of people may not understand how

4:42

much South Carolina was really involved in

4:44

that and how just there's so

4:46

much history with it in that state alone.

4:49

Oh, yes. Well, we're

4:52

not simply about events in

4:55

South Carolina because South Carolina

4:57

soldiers went everywhere

5:00

and were involved in everything

5:03

and so many stories

5:06

that people are not necessarily familiar

5:09

with. For instance,

5:11

we have South Carolina's only surviving

5:14

union flag, a

5:17

regimental flag of troops from our state

5:19

who actually fought for the North.

5:22

And this regiment

5:24

was raised from among the freed slaves

5:27

in the Buford district. Their

5:30

intelligence officer during the summer

5:32

of 1863 was

5:35

Harriet Tubman. So

5:37

we have the only Harriet Tubman associated

5:40

artifact that I know of anyway, in

5:42

the state of South Carolina. We

5:44

have some of the swords, and these are

5:46

among my favorite things. I'm a sword

5:48

guy. We have a

5:51

pair of the swords that Wade

5:53

Hampton, the third, bought out

5:55

of his own pocket to equip his

5:57

regiment of cavalry.

6:00

And if you go and see the big equestrian

6:03

statue at the statehouse, you'll see

6:05

it's a very distinctive kind of sword.

6:07

It's not curved. It's a long straight

6:10

blade. And you can see

6:12

some examples here and

6:14

read and learn more about

6:16

him. So, yeah,

6:19

South Carolinians were involved in every

6:21

part of that war in the 1860s

6:24

from the secession of our state,

6:27

which is what kicked off the

6:29

whole thing in the first place to

6:32

the final surrenders, both

6:34

the more famous one at Appomattox,

6:37

but also the troops who had retreated

6:40

through South Carolina would actually

6:43

be in a second major

6:45

surrender up in North Carolina. And

6:47

we've got things from them as well.

6:51

I mean, that's so amazing. That's that's just

6:53

so much great history in there.

6:56

So you talked about you'll have some Vietnam stuff.

6:58

What, all kind of more modern relics do you have?

7:01

Oh, the Vietnam exhibit is

7:03

going to feature some great, great

7:06

stuff. And one

7:08

special part about that, to me, the

7:11

roots of our museum were

7:14

going out to veterans of

7:16

the Confederate Army at the time who were still

7:18

alive. And they had things

7:21

and they had stories. And the stories came

7:23

along with the items. And

7:25

now it's our Vietnam veterans that our

7:27

staff has been working with to get both

7:29

the items and the

7:32

stories that give meaning to

7:34

these things, because history is really

7:36

about people when it comes down to it

7:39

and military history is

7:41

about. Frightened

7:44

people stepping up to the plate

7:47

and facing danger and going

7:49

through hardship and misery

7:52

and in dealing with the

7:54

effects of combat afterwards. And

7:57

so they'll be very personal things

7:59

on display. But

8:01

just to grab a few examples from

8:04

the Second World War, we

8:06

have items from the USS Columbia.

8:08

She's a light cruiser. Her

8:11

Jack staff is part of a memorial

8:14

a couple of blocks away at Memorial Park.

8:16

You can see an original piece of the ship where the

8:18

flag is flying next to her monument. But

8:21

we have pieces of shrapnel

8:23

from kamikaze airplanes that crashed

8:25

into her. We have

8:27

uniforms and items from

8:29

the crew, personal items like a

8:32

sailor's handkerchief. But he kept track

8:34

on the handkerchief. How many airplanes

8:36

has any aircraft gone? Had shot down? Cool

8:39

things like that. Strangely

8:42

enough, the oldest thing we have is

8:45

in our Second World War case. Even

8:48

though we have things from the American Revolution,

8:51

we have a sword captured on

8:53

Iwo Jima in 1945

8:56

that was actually made about the year 1600.

8:59

420 year old sword. We

9:02

have beautiful stuff from the Spanish-American

9:05

War. We have

9:07

a flag from the Mexican-American

9:10

War, the Palmetto Regiment

9:12

that went to Mexico City. And

9:15

they hold that flag out of retirement 50 years

9:18

later and took it to Cuba for a second war

9:20

for the Spanish-American War. So

9:23

a lot of terrific stuff like that. But

9:25

once the Vietnam exhibit

9:27

is installed and there

9:29

to be seen, one of the things

9:31

we have is a full size

9:34

military mortar that was used

9:37

a piece of the exhibit you can already look

9:40

at today out in the atrium is

9:42

a about a 1/72

9:45

scale, I believe it is diorama

9:47

of the Battle of Firebase Ripcord.

9:51

And that's a battle in the

9:54

valley late in the war

9:56

that is has really gotten short shrift

9:59

over the years by that time

10:01

in the war. The Army was very leery

10:04

of reporters. And

10:06

since this fire base was deep within

10:08

enemy territory and accessible by

10:10

only by Army helicopter, the

10:13

Army just said, we're not taking any reporters out there.

10:16

And as a result, they got no bad

10:18

publicity. But the man

10:20

who fought and died there didn't get a

10:23

lot of proper recognition

10:25

and credit either. And

10:28

I think that in a way, our exhibit

10:30

will help redress that. So

10:34

when you come in to see the

10:36

Vietnam exhibit, you'll also see

10:38

a recreation of

10:41

a home during the fighting

10:43

in this city and

10:46

get a little bit of the feel of what it was

10:48

like to be a person living

10:50

in a city in which a battle

10:52

was taking place. We

10:55

often forget in military

10:57

history we focus on the soldiers in uniform

10:59

and what they're doing. And and

11:01

I appreciate that. And, you know, that's that's my

11:04

bread and butter and my primary interest. But

11:06

war doesn't just affect the person wearing

11:09

the uniform. It affects

11:11

the person, as so many people in

11:13

Ukraine have had

11:15

to experience recently. It affects

11:18

the person who just happens to be in the area.

11:21

The old saying is you might not be interested

11:23

in war. War is interested

11:26

in you.

11:27

How far a drop in the Columbia is it to get

11:29

from the Lake Murray area?

11:31

We are very easy to find

11:33

because we are right across

11:35

the river and

11:38

you know, on the main, main drag in there.

11:40

And if you follow the signs for

11:42

the state museum, since

11:45

we're in the same building or the signs to

11:47

adventure with which we share

11:49

the parking lot or the signs to the

11:51

Relic Room. But we're

11:53

awfully easy to find, and

11:57

I think we pair well with

11:59

a visit to the state house a

12:01

few blocks away. You can see

12:04

the statue of Wade Hampden. Here

12:06

you can learn about Wade Hampton and see some

12:08

of his artifacts at the state house. You can

12:10

see marks on the wall where union cannon

12:13

shells hit at the

12:15

Relic Room. You can see one of the shells dug

12:18

up from the statehouse grounds.

12:21

The place what Historical Society does

12:23

a great job sharing the wonderful history

12:25

of life with this hidden gem

12:27

in Columbia's metro area would be

12:29

a great stop During your Lake Murray Country

12:31

visit. From horses to history,

12:33

plywood has a little bit of something

12:36

for everyone.

12:39

Wade Dorsey I'm the reference supervisor

12:41

at the South Carolina Department of Archives and History,

12:44

and I'm a board member of the Blackwood

12:47

Historical Society and Museum.

12:50

I'm a native Georgian. I've been in South

12:52

Carolina for 35 years

12:54

now. So I have

12:57

learned a little bit about this state to heart.

13:00

Our society started about 12

13:02

or 13 years ago in the

13:05

living room of one

13:08

of our members. A

13:10

few friends discussing the need to

13:13

preserve the history of our

13:15

little community in our area because

13:18

of the development that was really

13:20

coming along pretty, pretty strong. And

13:23

we needed to to do that while people still

13:25

remembered what it was like before. So

13:29

the society was formed and

13:31

began to to organize

13:33

itself, to have programs.

13:36

And then through the great generosity

13:38

of one of our members, we were given

13:40

a a house right

13:42

downtown Wildwood. The dates to 1904

13:46

that had been a home of one

13:48

of the old families and then

13:50

had been a business in the last 30 years

13:52

or so. So we were given the home and

13:56

began to meet there, began to restore it.

13:59

For those of us who aren't familiar with Blytheville,

14:01

tell us a little bit about the town.

14:03

Okay. Blackwood is

14:07

is a town that developed because

14:10

of the railroad. What was then

14:12

the South Carolina, Charlotte and South

14:14

Carolina railroad between

14:16

obviously Columbia and Charlotte,

14:18

North Carolina. It came through in the 1849

14:22

1850 period, and

14:24

it opened up that section of the country

14:27

to more than just farms. The

14:30

a village developed there,

14:32

known as it was called DOKO

14:34

at first. Yeah. And the

14:36

folks around town still use that name for

14:39

a lot of businesses. Doko

14:41

this and doko that. The

14:43

idea the story is that the

14:46

name came from a

14:48

slave who happened to see

14:50

the train taking on water from

14:52

the water tank. And General Peter

14:54

Cook, who was the owner of the slave,

14:58

said that the slave called it Doko where

15:00

the iron horse drinks. Now I

15:04

can't prove that story, but that that

15:06

was published in the 1880s or so. So

15:08

that's as close to the original as we can get.

15:12

In 1879, the town was

15:14

incorporated, but the name was changed

15:17

to Blackwood, which had been

15:19

a girl's school that girls

15:21

from all over the south came to that

15:24

area to attend a

15:26

girl's school called the Blythe Wood Female

15:29

Academy in the 1860s.

15:32

It continued on with the town, took

15:34

on the name of the school. Since

15:38

then, of course, the town was

15:40

mostly a agricultural center.

15:43

It also had a lot of timber

15:46

and forestry products coming through there.

15:49

It remained a pretty small, little, little,

15:51

little place until probably

15:54

the last 20 years when the suburban development

15:56

from Columbia is really moved in our direction.

15:59

And it became more of a I mean, it's

16:01

certainly its own community, but it's

16:03

somewhat of a bedroom community now.

16:05

For history lovers. What all is Bly

16:07

for would have to offer.

16:08

Okay. Well, we have our museum, which

16:11

is free, and so it doesn't

16:13

cost anything to come in. The museum

16:15

has a collection of of

16:19

objects relating to the local history

16:21

that can be kind of generalized

16:24

to other things that people living

16:26

in a rural area in the 19th and

16:28

20th century may have used.

16:31

Expert Leonhardt explanatory

16:34

panels that detail

16:36

the history of the community and

16:39

the general area. And we have

16:41

a really nice collection of Indian

16:44

artifacts, arrowheads,

16:47

projectile points that were given to

16:49

the society and then have been sorted professionally

16:52

by one of our members who is an archaeologist.

16:56

We also try to have programs

16:58

for both our members

17:00

and the public at large. We've had

17:02

a good, great interest in quilts,

17:05

both historical and and

17:08

modern. So we have programs about

17:10

quilts. We have cooperated

17:12

with the local schools and have

17:14

programs for the elementary school

17:17

kids in particular. They come a couple

17:19

of times a year and

17:22

is as far as Blythe with the town goes

17:25

there. Beside our museum,

17:28

there is the National Register of Property.

17:30

That is the town hall, which

17:32

is the Huffman house built in the 1850s.

17:35

It survived the war between the states, even

17:37

though it was right in the middle

17:39

of of Sherman's army that the house

17:42

was not burned. It's been restored

17:44

and it functions as our town hall. There's

17:46

also the Sandy Level Baptist Church,

17:49

which is a a congregation

17:51

dates to the 1760s. The

17:54

church building itself was

17:56

built in 1856 and is still in operation.

17:59

It's really a

18:02

spectacular example of a prosperous

18:05

rural Baptist church from

18:07

the period just before the war.

18:10

And Bligh Ford has a pretty robust tradition of

18:12

horses, right?

18:14

That's correct. Of course, everybody

18:17

use horses until the 1920

18:20

period. But our our

18:22

area, starting in the 1950s

18:24

and sixties, began to

18:27

really explore a a

18:29

horse industry sort of thing. So

18:32

we have many horse farms around

18:35

the area. There are lots of events

18:37

at many of those places that happened during

18:39

the course of the year. And the University

18:42

of South Carolina equestrian

18:44

team is based in

18:46

one of the farms that live through it.

18:48

Now, how far is Blythe Wood from Lake Murray

18:51

and from downtown Columbia?

18:54

From downtown Columbia. It's

18:56

about 15 miles from Blackwood to the state

18:58

house. It's right

19:00

down at 77 and to 77.

19:03

Very easily accessible in

19:05

either direction from

19:07

Lake Murray, probably 15

19:09

to 20 miles. I couldn't give you an exact figure.

19:11

When can folks come visit the Blythe Wood Museum?

19:14

The museum is open

19:17

Wednesday and Thursday, 9

19:19

to 4, and it's open

19:22

on Saturdays. The first and

19:24

third Saturdays tend to three. You

19:27

can just come during that time and

19:30

we'll be glad to have you. You could certainly

19:33

contact the folks at the museum

19:36

if you needed to make sure that they were

19:38

going to be there or if you wanted to ask them about

19:40

something so that that would be the way to go. But

19:42

it is just it's free. Come on in and

19:44

visit.

19:45

What would you say to my friend who's considering visiting

19:47

Blythe Wood on their Lake Murray country

19:49

vacation?

19:51

If you were coming from Charlotte or

19:53

North Carolina area where

19:55

the first exit just

19:57

before you get into Columbia or the last exit

19:59

just before you get into Columbia. And so

20:01

we're a good place to stop before

20:04

things get more hectic downtown. Take

20:07

it a little easy. Stop in a restaurant,

20:09

come look at the sights that I've mentioned

20:12

already from

20:15

other places. Think of Blythe Wood

20:17

as a as a small kind

20:20

of a small oasis in the middle of a much larger

20:23

metropolis that you could drop it

20:25

in and just say hi and take

20:27

a look.

20:28

And finally, what is the best way to get

20:30

in contact with the Blackfoot Historical Society?

20:33

If you want to give us a call. We're at area code 8033338133.

20:39

And if you want to check our website, it is

20:42

Blackwood Historical Society

20:44

dot org.

20:47

Preserving our history is important. Our

20:49

friends at the South Carolina American

20:51

Revolution, Suster Centennial

20:54

Commission have done an amazing job

20:56

promoting and preserving South Carolina's

20:59

crucial role in the American Revolution.

21:05

My name is Mollie Fortune, and I'm the executive

21:07

director of the South Carolina American

21:09

Revolution Sisters Centennial

21:12

Commission. I have a background in preservation

21:14

architecture and worked in

21:17

two fabulous historic theaters, using

21:19

those as economic drivers

21:21

for tourism and and

21:23

education, both

21:25

here in South Carolina and in Georgia,

21:28

and was snagged. Try

21:31

this commission, which is fabulous. And

21:34

that's what we're doing. We are using the history,

21:36

the little known history or forgotten history

21:38

of South Carolina and the revolution as economic

21:41

drivers for tourism and education.

21:43

And I think, you know, a lot of people think South

21:46

Carolina history. Civil war is usually

21:48

the the one that comes up a lot. But

21:50

yeah, there is a lot of revolutionary history

21:52

that gets overlooked.

21:55

Very much so. And I'm from Georgia. And

21:57

so when we look at South Carolina, you're 100%

21:59

correct. We think civil war

22:01

all the way. And in reality,

22:04

South Carolina is the reason why we

22:06

have the government that we do have today. And we're not

22:08

a commonwealth or we're not part of Great

22:10

Britain. We had over 400 skirmishes,

22:13

murders, events here in South

22:15

Carolina alone. And

22:17

if it wasn't for, like we said this and

22:20

it really kind of was a civil war here in South

22:22

Carolina, neighbor against neighbor and just

22:24

wearing out the British, they

22:26

would never have left. So if it wasn't

22:28

for this southern campaign throughout

22:31

the South, mainly within South

22:33

Carolina, it would be very different right now.

22:36

So what all deal do to kind

22:38

of help shine the light on that history?

22:41

We're working with each county, so we

22:43

have touched all 46 counties. They

22:45

are in the process of forming their own committees.

22:48

With those committees, we're able to grant

22:51

funds for educational purposes,

22:53

for tourism purposes, for

22:55

economic development, such as

22:57

interpreting a site. We

23:00

have a county that is really interested in forming

23:02

a bike trail that will

23:04

take folks along some old colonial

23:06

roads with interpretation. Then,

23:09

of course, they're going to stop and want to get a Coke and

23:11

feed the kids, which also helps the local businesses.

23:14

We're doing it through research and education.

23:16

Like I said, putting

23:19

the papers of many of

23:21

our folks, loyalists as well

23:24

as patriots, transcribing

23:26

those and making them free and accessible to the

23:28

public. Everything we do, we want it to be

23:30

free and accessible to the public. And

23:33

one of the biggest things that differentiates

23:35

us as the South Carolina 258

23:38

from some of the other state two

23:40

fifties is that we really

23:42

want to tell all stories,

23:44

not just the Patriots story, not

23:47

just that of the victor, but as

23:49

we said before, it was the women, it

23:51

was the children, it was the Native Americans.

23:53

It was free and enslaved African-Americans

23:56

that were here. That and the loyalists

23:58

can have a good party without loyalists that

24:01

were here that made the story so complete.

24:03

And those records are not

24:05

as forthcoming. And we need to tell

24:07

those stories. Yeah.

24:09

And that's something that, you know,

24:11

I think a lot of people forget because we have not

24:14

had a war in America, followed

24:16

on our turf since civil

24:18

war. But people forget how much

24:20

the Revolutionary War impacted

24:23

everyone.

24:25

Absolutely impacted everyone. Your

24:28

your men would go out fighting and by

24:30

the way, they would fight and then they have to come back and harvest.

24:32

Or sometimes they couldn't come back and harvest. And the women

24:34

were raising the kids. They

24:36

were, you know, making sure that their neighbor

24:38

who was using the fact that they didn't like their potato

24:41

salad from ten years ago as an excuse to

24:43

come over and burn their house. These women

24:45

are defending their houses. They're shoving their kids

24:47

up chimneys to to keep them

24:49

safe from the gunfire outside

24:53

that they're having to do

24:55

with just as much work. And then you have these

24:57

amazing stories of the

24:59

Native Americans who are helping our

25:01

soldiers and our families freed

25:04

and enslaved Africans

25:06

that were here, that were transporting messages

25:08

or even fighting. We have found

25:10

that this really was

25:12

an integrated war. There were

25:14

African Americans fighting right along

25:17

with our patriots, men and women.

25:19

We just learned not too long ago

25:22

as a commission that apparently there was

25:24

a fantastic

25:26

freed African group

25:29

of what we call dragoons cavalry that

25:31

were just raiding the low country.

25:34

Just absolutely could not

25:37

stand any patriot rating

25:39

the low country and they were all African

25:41

Americans on the loyalist side.

25:43

And they were rewarded after the war

25:46

and were able to move to Barbados where

25:48

they, you know, basically form the criminal justice

25:50

system, if you will. I mean, that's my

25:52

take on it. And then,

25:54

you know, I've got a patriot, a woman who

25:57

had her husband taken from

25:59

her, and she was so sick and

26:01

tired of dealing with the kids, the animals in the fields

26:04

that she got in her oxcart, drove

26:06

down to Camden and went and got him. So

26:08

you you know, and then you've got these fabulous

26:10

stories of the Native Americans

26:13

working alongside, helping out

26:16

in South Carolina so deep

26:19

in revolutionary history. And

26:21

how. Every

26:24

citizen dug their heels in. But

26:27

at the end of the day, it's

26:29

amazing to me how they

26:32

all came back together to form this country.

26:36

That is amazing is a lot of history.

26:38

I didn't know. And I

26:40

mean, it's just so cool that everyone

26:43

got together and dug together for

26:45

those.

26:46

They did. They really did. And I

26:48

have learned that the French and Indian

26:50

War really played a huge piece into

26:52

it as well. And, you know, for me that

26:54

was kind of skimmed over. But the

26:57

personality, we call them characters, and

26:59

they really are. And you

27:02

may have it's funny, you know, in my research

27:05

and just learning, you

27:07

have one guy who's a loyalist

27:09

and then you read three days later, he's a patriot.

27:11

You're like, wait a minute, same guy. What's going on? You

27:13

know, it's these people are just

27:15

like us trying to forge

27:18

a life and

27:20

a path and a government and

27:23

humanity.

27:25

And that's that's so I mean, that's

27:27

interesting because, you know, we

27:29

think we think like, oh, they were on

27:31

the same side the whole time. And now, I mean, just like

27:33

all of us have probably evolved

27:36

politically over our lifetime. They

27:39

probably I mean, they did the same thing.

27:41

Oh, absolutely. You know, and as

27:43

you grow and you learn, your perspective

27:45

changes, too. And so these are real

27:47

people that did, you know. Yes, you

27:49

have Francis Marion's and the

27:51

Thomas Sumners who always stayed on that side. But

27:54

every everyday folks and their letter

27:56

writing and what their families were

27:58

going through, I mean, this was tearing families apart

28:01

or it was bringing them closer together and

28:04

it. It reminds

28:07

me that once you get outside of Charleston,

28:09

which had two major battles, or Camden which

28:11

had two major battles, everything else

28:13

is out here and there's a lot

28:16

of land and not that many people,

28:18

but that they were all coming together to

28:21

to fight for what they believed.

28:24

Absolutely. That's great. So,

28:26

you know, this podcast is focused

28:28

on like Murray in the Columbia

28:31

area. Is there anything right now that

28:33

people who are maybe visiting that area can

28:35

come do come see to kind of learn more

28:37

about the Revolutionary War?

28:39

Yes. This area is very rich in

28:41

revolutionary history. I am a newbie myself,

28:43

so I'm part of that Lake Murray country. Our

28:46

website, South Carolina 250 dot com

28:48

has a can you visit now

28:50

a tab so it will tell you all the things

28:52

that are open the trails that you can walk,

28:55

the houses you can go to the stories

28:57

you can hear absolutely

29:00

anything you walk through right now pretty much

29:02

in downtown, especially if you go downtown Columbia

29:04

you know, Sumpter Street, Marion,

29:07

all these things went when Columbia

29:09

was founded. Just walk around and look at those markers

29:13

down in Lake Murray. There's some plantations

29:15

that were flooded, of course, and they're

29:17

just. Yes. Go to the website,

29:19

to be frankly honest, because there is so

29:22

much we have about 98 pages worth

29:24

of things that are available to do

29:26

that are open right now. Thank you for listening

29:29

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29:31

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29:34

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29:36

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29:38

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29:41

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29:43

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29:48

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29:53

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29:58

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30:01

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30:04

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30:09

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30:13

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30:15

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