0:01

Joe Rogan podcast check it out. The

0:04

Joe Rogan Experience. Train

0:06

by day Joe Rogan podcast by night

0:08

all day. I

0:12

think that's CIA guy on with the hair. Yeah.

0:18

We need that guy. So

0:21

after the pod. I

0:23

guess we're up. Let's go. You want to go? We're

0:25

rolling. Let's do it. So he

0:28

came on and he was very like

0:30

fourth. First of all, he's very charming. But like

0:32

when you're talking to anybody who's worked for CIA,

0:34

you're looking him through the same lens as you

0:36

look at like a therapist. Right. Where

0:39

it's like, wait, are you analyzing? Like what's going

0:41

on? What's going on here? Very charming, very smart,

0:44

very like seems to really know what's going on in the world. But

0:47

like straight up told us, he's like, yeah, this, yeah, you know, I

0:49

guess one of the advantages I have is like, I'm pretty

0:51

close to a sociopath. Like

0:54

I'm not there, but like I don't, I

0:56

don't feel the same emotions that

0:58

everybody feels. There's like a lack of guilt,

1:00

but I know when I should feel it

1:02

in these moments. Whoa. But that's

1:04

a huge advantage. Imagine if you're trying to like

1:06

find assets and flip assets. If

1:08

you and I like build a relationship with somebody and we

1:10

like feel empathy for them. Right. Maybe

1:13

we wouldn't be able to say, hey, now it's time

1:15

for you to cough up the information or else. Right.

1:18

But somebody else in that position might. So

1:21

I would imagine if you heard the fucking CIA,

1:23

you're like, okay, we're looking for people who have

1:25

gone through these things in their life that have

1:27

curated this kind of like personality type. Well,

1:30

isn't it just like part of

1:32

the gig? Like

1:34

here's for instance, like

1:36

your bit about Puffy. How

1:40

are you going to connect these two fucking dots? That

1:44

bit is like, look,

1:46

you don't have any real personal

1:48

beef with Diddy, but it's

1:50

got to go down. The

1:52

bits are there. I'm a gold miner. I

1:54

just found some gold. You're right.

1:57

Maybe I'm a sociopath. It's not that

1:59

you're a sociopath. It's just that that's part of

2:01

the gig. Yes. Like you're

2:03

not an sociopath with your friends. No, I think I'm maybe

2:06

an empath. Yes. But I guess it's one of those things

2:08

where like you justify, you go, okay, if there's a... I

2:11

think this person might have done something bad. Yes.

2:15

And he can get jokes and we're all

2:17

going to tell jokes. Yeah. I'm

2:19

not pressing fucking charges. Well, not only that, you're not

2:21

the guy who's out there like calling the New York

2:23

Times, hey, you know what I heard about it? By

2:25

the way, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

2:28

You're just like, it's there. It's

2:30

everywhere. My fucking news feed is

2:32

dominated by it. Yes. Fox

2:35

News, CNN, everyone. There's raids

2:37

at Diddy's house. Who was the guy

2:39

that was running around with a sports

2:41

bra on? Did you see that one

2:43

dude? No, this is in LA. Oh my God. I

2:46

got to send you this. Wait, wall the raids are

2:48

happening? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got caught up in the

2:50

raid and he was yelling, I'm a celebrity. I'm a

2:52

celebrity. It was like one

2:54

of the most hilarious clips. Hold on,

2:56

I'm going to find you this. It's so funny. Do

3:00

you know what I'm talking about, Jamie? Nope. But you bring

3:02

up a good point, which is like, are

3:05

there ever situations where you feel

3:08

you won't wait till you see this? Yeah.

3:19

He's wearing a sports bra. Hold on, we're going to

3:21

play it. Okay. Yeah,

3:23

put your headphones on so you can hear it. Oh,

3:29

yeah. Look

3:34

at this. Wearing

3:37

what appears to be a black sports

3:39

bra, red tights and the performers signature

3:41

trim beard and long eyelashes. Yeah,

3:45

this is, Joe, this is Saucy Santana. Look

3:47

at him, look at him. Oh wow, saliva

3:50

on the beard is crazy. Saliva on the

3:52

beard. He definitely came from a Diddy party.

3:54

Yeah. Well, he was at Diddy's

3:56

house. I bet he was. So I guess Diddy just kept

3:58

people at his house. Because he's got

4:00

multiple houses and he's just had freak out

4:03

part. Look at him. Look

4:05

at him. Sausie's crazy. Have you seen

4:07

Sausie twerk? I didn't even know Sausie

4:09

existed until I saw that video. Oh,

4:11

Sausie can throw it down. This

4:14

is Booty by Sausie Tantana. Sausie.

4:16

Oh, Jesus. Sausie. I

4:19

love it. Give me some of that. You're finding

4:21

out about Sausie. I don't even

4:24

know

4:29

this is Diddy's Artist. Sausie's

4:51

like a popular figure in music. You're gonna

4:53

say that his house. Now,

4:56

Diddy's in a tricky situation. Boy,

4:59

that's the understatement of the year. Yeah, I think it's over. You

5:02

think it's over? I think it's over for

5:04

him as like a figure in

5:06

entertainment. Right. But you think it's

5:08

over for him as far as he gets a cell

5:10

right next to R. Kelly? I don't think so. Really?

5:13

He skates. I think he skates. Really?

5:17

Or he goes to a Bali. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I

5:19

mean, Russell's out there. Yeah. You

5:22

know. Is he been formally charged or

5:24

is he just know that the shit is out

5:26

there? I think there's just so much shit out

5:28

there. I think those rappers did some wild shit.

5:30

Yeah. Especially in the 90s. It was

5:32

in the music business. It's a lot of people. It's

5:35

not just the music business. It's

5:37

like the extortion business.

5:39

Well, that's... Yeah. I mean,

5:41

the rap game was crazy. That's a thing a

5:44

lot of people don't realize is like back

5:46

in the day, especially early rap

5:49

game, you weren't just going to play at, you know,

5:51

what's the random theater that you would play in LA.

5:53

What's like a big theater? Right. I'm

5:55

trying to think. The Orpheum or something like that. Wiltern.

5:58

The Wiltern. You would play at

6:00

the local hood club. There was

6:02

a hood club that you could perform at. And

6:05

then that was owned by the local drug dealer

6:08

that was washing money there. So

6:10

this is where the idea of checking in comes from. Have

6:12

you heard of this term? Checking

6:14

in was basically like, hey, I want to make

6:17

sure we're good because you're going to pay me,

6:19

and if I don't check in, you might

6:21

rob me because you're putting me up at

6:24

the hotel and you know everything that's going on

6:26

and you're a drug dealer. So you don't play by

6:28

the rules. You come to Houston. You're

6:30

checking in with certain people. Mr. Prince? Yes,

6:32

sir. Mr. Prince? Yeah.

6:35

You don't got to check in, Joe. You got to check in, say

6:37

hi. Joe don't got to check in. I'm not in that business. I

6:40

say hi. You've had

6:42

him on here, right? Yeah. He's a legend

6:44

in the game, dude. He's a legend. Out of respect,

6:46

I say hi. There you go. Yeah. There

6:49

you go. So what is like, yeah, yeah,

6:51

yeah. How does a guy like him, like I'm trying to think,

6:53

like how do you navigate

6:55

that to the point where people have

6:57

this like respect and fear because of

7:00

what they assume you've done in the

7:02

street world. Right. But

7:04

you're also operating legitimately. Yeah.

7:07

And nobody can get you. They

7:10

try. They try. Boy, they tried with

7:12

him many times. And do you think they just give

7:14

up? I don't think they have anything. If they had

7:18

something, they would have brought it. You

7:20

know, if they have something on a guy like that, they

7:22

try to get him. That's the thing that he's clever. He's

7:27

playing many levels. He's like one of those dudes,

7:29

you ever see a chess tournament where a guy

7:31

walks in and there's 10 different players and he

7:33

just walks and goes to each move and

7:36

goes to the next board and makes a move, goes

7:38

to the next board, makes a move, and he beats

7:40

everybody. Yeah. So where does a guy like that

7:42

learn that? That's what I'm trying to understand. Streets.

7:45

Streets. Yeah. He

7:47

learns that. I mean, it's all about keeping people

7:49

close. Yeah. Respect. Yeah.

7:52

Give them respect. Get in respect. You

7:55

cover all your statements. Yeah. Like, if

7:57

you say something, you have to make sure you

7:59

do it. You cover it. Yeah. 100% of the

8:02

time. And there's probably times in his life where

8:04

he's went like if it's poker He probably went

8:06

all in a few times not in terms of

8:08

money, but like this decision makes or breaks me

8:10

Yeah, I wonder how many make or break moments

8:13

He's had Well, it

8:15

depends on what's actually true. What's not true

8:17

in terms of accusations. Ah, you

8:19

know, it was Some

8:22

of the accusations are true that kind of covers

8:24

things You know when

8:26

folks vanish Someone

8:30

does have a good average see you

8:32

later Spanish. Yeah. Yeah, that's effective Oh,

8:35

yeah, the fact is that 100% Yeah,

8:38

and it should be because

8:41

listen all this shit that's going on

8:43

right now in the world In

8:45

America we get so soft and we think none of

8:47

that shit's gonna happen here all that

8:50

murder war drones Assassinations

8:53

that's not gonna happen here Unless

8:56

you know the Clintons. Yes Let's you know

8:58

some shit Yeah, let's you know

9:00

some shit about old bill and then

9:02

you want to shoot yourself in the chest while hanging

9:05

from an extension cord Wait, did that happen? Oh, yeah,

9:07

you don't know that guy Shot

9:09

himself in the guy Joe that seems really hard

9:11

to do with a shotgun. This is how do

9:13

you do such a thing? While you're hanging. This

9:15

is a guy that Brought

9:17

Epstein to the White House at

9:20

least seven times What's

9:23

his name? We'll find

9:25

out so they found him at a

9:27

ranch 30 minutes from his house Hanging

9:30

by an electrical cord from a

9:32

tree with a shotgun wound to

9:34

the chest shotgun discovered near the

9:36

body of former Clinton aid Mark

9:38

Middleton and then they called it a suicide 12-gauge

9:42

shotgun was 30 feet from the body of

9:44

Mark Middleton was he found dead. Okay, so

9:46

who who? Okay,

9:48

who orchestrates this is

9:50

this is this the same thing where? Does does

9:54

Clinton go? Hey this guy

9:56

needs to go or do the powers that

9:58

be around? Powerful person

10:00

go we already know what needs to happen

10:03

Well, I think they know if a dude

10:06

is in contact with someone or has

10:09

been talking or is about to

10:11

talk I mean cooperating with yeah, I don't

10:13

think any of those guys have clean phones

10:16

I don't think any of those guys don't have their

10:18

houses bugged. I don't think any of those guys aren't

10:20

tracked Yeah,

10:24

who the if you're a guy that brought Jeffrey

10:26

Epstein to the fucking White House to see Bill

10:28

Clinton Seven times and

10:31

all this Epstein shit is going

10:33

down and Galain's in jail and you have

10:35

information there There's people on both sides, right?

10:37

There's the people on the right that are

10:39

trying to nail the people that are on

10:41

the left with this There's people that are

10:43

journalists that are trying to nail the people

10:45

that are involved in this This is it

10:47

And they've managed to keep that fucking list

10:50

from coming out which shows you

10:52

how powerful certain people are That should

10:54

show you a lot that should be

10:56

terrified the fact that Galain Maxwell's in

10:58

prison She's in prison for

11:00

sex trafficking yet. No one's been accused of

11:02

buying any of that pussy No

11:05

one's been accused of having sex with these

11:07

underage girls that she is in jail for

11:10

supplying Yeah, that

11:12

is that is crazy. That's crazy. You

11:14

own a store and there's no items left

11:16

yet Nobody's purchasing anything something's going on something's

11:18

going on. Yeah, so I guess what I'm

11:20

trying to figure out is like People

11:23

can go away. I mean, that's what that's what people

11:25

were saying and maybe you know, everybody's a conspiracy There's

11:28

now but that's what people are saying about the Diddy

11:30

situation Like when the D when the when the feds

11:32

rolled up, you know with the fucking

11:34

hummers and shit. They're like it wasn't about

11:37

Diddy it was about if there

11:40

were tapes of powerful people there. Yeah.

11:42

Oh, I'm sure they were the ones

11:44

that called They're like I need to protect myself.

11:46

So go in there with all the things and

11:48

rip any tapes or any evidence Prince Harry was

11:50

hanging with Diddy I mean everybody

11:52

hung with Diddy. That's the other trick. Yeah, like Diddy

11:54

hung out with everybody and I've spoken to a bunch

11:57

of people We're like yo great dude, like always there

11:59

for you. Never asked for a single thing to one

12:01

in the morning and then then

12:04

free call everybody says get out of

12:06

the house yeah it's like the gremlins

12:08

starting everybody knows

12:15

there's like I saw go upstairs and these

12:17

dudes are fucking right on the couch yeah

12:19

and then I go in this room and

12:21

these guys are fucking and like and pros

12:23

like apparently he was getting male

12:25

jigalos to fuck girls that

12:29

girl yeah that's the that was one of

12:31

the rumors like the main gawd so he

12:33

would hire the professional dicks to have sex

12:35

with the girls and I think

12:37

he would watch allegedly that's what that's what was

12:39

alleged I think yeah

12:41

there's a lot of crazy stuff going on and that's the other

12:43

thing like I wonder like is

12:46

that just a power thing it's a colligula

12:48

thing what does that mean colligula like the

12:50

the Emperor did you ever see that movie

12:52

colligula it's about just Roman Empire's being completely

12:55

out of control colligula is like almost like

12:57

porn and it was a movie made I

12:59

want to say in the 70s it's a

13:02

crazy movie but it's just

13:04

it's just detailing extreme excess where

13:06

you could never fill the hole

13:08

but what is the hole you need

13:11

to fill like I'm trying to find

13:13

like what's the chaos what year is

13:15

this 79 yeah that's

13:20

Malcolm McDowell right yeah

13:24

hmm yeah the dude from

13:26

Clockwork Orange oh yeah it's a crazy

13:28

movie man but I guess it's still

13:30

mild in comparison to what absolute absolute

13:32

power corrupts colligula okay so then there's

13:35

the question it's like can

13:37

you take a completely normal person give them power

13:39

and then they become that or does it take

13:41

a power-hungry person that has this void that they

13:43

need to be filled that needs to be filled

13:45

and then when they are given that power you

13:47

see the worst version of them ask your CIA

13:50

boy I bet he's got the answers somebody knows

13:52

the exact formula to corrupting somebody

13:54

or to what happens like

13:56

what happens these people have you ever met

13:58

somebody in our business that like before they

14:00

were popping, they were kind

14:02

of a dick. And then once they became

14:05

very successful, they were the biggest dick.

14:07

And you're like, you were always going to be this way.

14:09

You just didn't have the power to project it

14:12

on people. I don't know

14:14

too many people in our business that

14:16

are really successful, like your level or my

14:18

level, that are dicks. Yeah. Yeah.

14:21

Well, let me think about that. Yeah. Yeah.

14:26

Yeah, there are people maybe that feel they

14:28

should be at a higher level and are

14:30

not. They feel that they can kind of

14:33

boss people around or throw their weight around

14:35

to their assistant or their agent. Yeah. Maybe

14:37

they yell when they shouldn't yell or don't

14:39

have to yell or are demeaning to certain

14:41

people. That bothers me, though. Oh, I

14:43

hate it. It really, yeah. I don't like it at

14:45

all. Especially when you're demeaning to the people that can't

14:48

really do anything. They could

14:50

quit, of course, but this is their opportunity.

14:52

Right. And then they feel terrible and for

14:54

no reason. The same exact situation could be

14:56

handled with a hug. Yeah. You

14:58

could tell them you appreciate them. You hold their hand, you

15:00

shake their hand, you give them a hug. Yeah. And then

15:02

everybody feels good. Yeah. Yeah, that

15:04

should be what the goal is. Like,

15:06

you're the guy who is in this

15:08

very unique, unusual situation, and you have

15:11

the ability to make everybody feel better.

15:13

Yeah. Yeah. Until you don't.

15:15

Until there's some people that you just got

15:17

to get rid of. There's some people that

15:19

are just feel entitled and they don't feel

15:21

it. There's certain things that do happen around

15:23

certain successful people. You'll see they have a

15:25

few people that have resentment that are around

15:27

them that realize like, oh, I'm a support

15:29

person and I only have so much room

15:32

that I can climb. I can never

15:34

be Andrew Schultz. I'm always going

15:36

to be this guy who works

15:38

with Andrew Schultz. I've

15:41

had a few buddies that have opening

15:43

acts that wind up getting very entitled.

15:46

And they have real problems with them. With the opening

15:48

acts get resentful and there becomes issues. And then what

15:50

do they do? They're the good guys. They clip them.

15:52

They get rid of them. You have to.

15:54

Yeah, you got to get rid of them. Because you can't be

15:57

around someone who resents your success. I just had a friend who

15:59

just led me through. all the shit that his

16:01

opening ag was doing. But I

16:03

have known several guys that have had that. Once things

16:05

start popping, those guys feel like, hey, you know, I'm

16:07

a big deal. And they're like, you're not even, you're

16:09

just like, you could be replaced with another guy who

16:12

does 15 minutes. Like, this is crazy. You have an

16:14

amazing opportunity. You get a chance to perform in front

16:16

of these thousands of people that you would never be

16:18

able to perform in front of them, and you light

16:20

it up, you can move up the ladder, and then

16:23

one day that could be you, and they could be

16:25

coming to see you. And we've all seen that. And

16:27

you never wanna have to manage somebody like that. You

16:29

wanna have people around you that are excited by

16:31

the opportunity, and everybody's like part of the team,

16:34

and we're doing this fucking unbelievable thing. And

16:37

yeah, I guess I feel lucky I

16:39

have those guys. Yeah, you've cultured a

16:41

good group of humans, and then they

16:43

have gratitude, and we all have gratitude.

16:46

Everybody has gratitude. That's the key. But

16:48

some people, they're nuts. Some

16:50

people are just crazy, which is why they're in show business

16:52

in the first place. And they have a

16:55

distorted perception of reality, and they're not good at

16:57

being objective. They're not good at seeing the big

16:59

picture. Those fucking

17:01

people give you a real problem if they're in your

17:03

circle. And if they're smart. The

17:05

problem is when you take one of those people who's intelligent,

17:07

they can rationalize and justify all the

17:09

behaviors. Oh, yeah. That's the

17:12

trickiest thing. How do you, have

17:14

you been in that situation where you're trying to

17:16

talk them out of a behavior

17:19

that they have, and you're just

17:21

like, this might not be the most rational way to

17:23

operate? It's not

17:26

really, it's like at a

17:28

certain point in time, you have to, yeah, I guess

17:30

you gotta kind of let them, let

17:32

them do their thing. Yeah, I don't know what you can

17:34

do to cure them of

17:36

it. I don't know

17:38

if you can tell them, hey, this is what

17:40

you're doing, like fuck, what am I doing? I'm

17:43

sorry, I'm gonna get my shit together. Do

17:46

we have confirmation? Yes. And

17:48

we're good to go, or what? Yeah, hold

17:50

on, hold on. Okay, okay. Light

17:53

it up, Joe. Yeah.

18:00

Is where we all night For us right

18:02

now is yeah, I think there's still on

18:04

for your knuckles yet greenlight really? August. Oh.

18:08

Right dreading those are lot of speaking of

18:10

psycho is lot of his. I goes in

18:12

the world the and I think that this

18:14

is a thing is like there's a certain

18:17

amount of people that really don't care about

18:19

other people still don't say they exist to

18:21

that mean What does that? The terms I

18:23

guess the term a sociopath right? Why think

18:25

sociopath of just means that you don't feel

18:28

like the gills. Did. A

18:30

normal person would feel when you make somebody

18:32

feel comfortable right? could potentially be in an

18:34

uncomfortable situation. That's that reactions is not elicited

18:37

yeah with you and therefore you can maybe

18:39

ask them to do things that would put

18:41

them in really uncomfortable situation. Alex for example,

18:43

you have a park as rights us somebody

18:46

come on. there might be of really embarrassing

18:48

tough question the you might want to ask

18:50

and maybe that's why you brought them on

18:52

or they're really close friend of yours and

18:55

yours like how north I want to put

18:57

them in this situation in front of all.

18:59

These people directed at all time. You don't

19:01

ask a don't ask several times with empathy.

19:03

You care about how that are. You don't

19:05

need to talk to someone about something controversial,

19:07

if they want to talk about it or

19:09

give us something they want to get off

19:12

their chests. Are they what they want to

19:14

discuss? Because there's some misconceptions out there are

19:16

happy to give you that that platform. But

19:18

like play got you with you. it's I

19:20

am not that guy at all. the I

19:22

don't want to have anything to do that

19:24

shit they're I don't like it or not

19:26

think it's necessary. Gross. Also, if you're talking

19:28

about a human being and. One very specific

19:30

issue that why don't they have a lot

19:32

of things going on I live, I'm interested

19:34

in the For Humans said I'm not interested

19:36

in just dig in the dirt on one

19:38

bad situation that you may or may not

19:40

be involved he says and said to me.

19:43

When I had when I have my kid. He

19:46

said i use a you know it's really

19:48

funny as it like when I'm talking to

19:50

somebody or some is being incredibly annoying or

19:52

their frustrating the been a pain in the

19:54

as there being a dick I just imagine

19:56

them. As a six week old

19:58

baby? Yeah, And. It's. every

20:00

one of them started out that way this innocent

20:02

pure yep amazing little thing

20:04

and Life

20:06

might have turned them into this

20:09

life shitty parents. Yeah bad neighborhood

20:11

and then sometimes it's just genes

20:13

Yeah, sometimes you get wacky genes man. Yeah,

20:16

sometimes people are mentally ill right from the

20:18

jump Yeah, and I don't think people like

20:20

to admit that but that's that's a fact.

20:22

Yeah, you know, yeah, how much can you

20:24

do with that? Not

20:27

much and then when it

20:29

comes to like medication, what is the medication

20:31

doing it? Is it dulling the mind so

20:34

that the impulses don't come out? Is

20:36

it? Wrapping up your dopamine so

20:38

you don't want to do those things like yeah

20:40

I was wondering that with like Prozac like I

20:42

didn't realize how many people I knew that were

20:44

on Prozac what he's saying Yeah,

20:48

you're nice yeah, we're good. Let's just do it. Yeah,

20:51

okay Yeah

21:00

Speaking of Speaking of

21:02

psycho speaking of of people

21:04

that are potentially bad. Yeah they

21:07

do not have your good a good

21:09

interest at heart and We'll

21:12

take advantage of you and

21:14

maybe our pathological in their desires

21:16

to crush So we're talking about

21:18

Andrew Huberman situation his situation not

21:20

Huberman. Yeah. Yeah So

21:23

one of the things that was left out

21:25

of that article People know

21:27

I assume everybody here knows exactly what

21:29

happened so there's an article that Andrew

21:31

Huberman and X got a hold of

21:33

a reporter and said that he's Flander

21:36

he's doing all these terrible things. He's a

21:38

bad guy. Yeah, and so they write this

21:40

long article What they left

21:42

out was that the person who accused

21:44

him of all this First

21:47

of all is being investigated by the DOJ for fraud

21:49

and is in the middle of that right now It's

21:51

a very serious case. I would name the case, but

21:54

that would Like They

21:56

made the lady anonymous, which is also

21:58

crazy like you could have an anonymous

22:00

them as person who attacks this famous

22:02

person with it. which is essentially whether

22:05

it's true what the things you say

22:07

are true or not troops the stuff

22:09

she left out the D O J

22:11

with that's where he breaks and off

22:13

exactly. He breaks it off zero zero

22:16

on tax him because they're investigating this

22:18

woman. And. You think that would

22:20

be like maybe the first paragraph you'd think

22:22

though any least be a part of the

22:24

article. Yeah, if it was a real piece

22:26

of news, yeah you'd say oh, this is

22:29

complicated their own. Okay, so what you think

22:31

it is, Do you think you could come

22:33

from pharmaceutical companies. I. Don't think

22:35

there's zero influence. You

22:38

know? I mean I think for sure look

22:40

with the stuff that happened to me that

22:42

are going to ask what would you they

22:44

come from that was one hundred percent influenced

22:46

by pharmaceutical drug companies political interest to. Yeah.

22:49

Wonder on her hind end together

22:51

because they fund them so you've

22:53

got pharmaceutical drug interests at a

22:55

fun the network the right. They

22:57

pay for so much of the

22:59

advertisement server at the A any

23:01

younger. Behold on so appetizers yet

23:03

as you cuts if it's the

23:06

news said no more pharmaceutical drugs

23:08

would goods Imagine if the government

23:10

says this that the government says

23:12

no more pharmaceutical drug contributions to

23:14

Super Pacs No more pharmaceutical drugs

23:16

ads on that did tell television

23:18

shows. It's and newspapers know more then

23:20

you have to fill a massive void

23:22

that's missing from those ads. and you're

23:25

gonna have to bring in toy trucks

23:27

and fucking all those different things to

23:29

hear what you're missing out. A lot

23:31

of fucking money. So.

23:34

If that's a giant portion of your ad

23:36

revenue. You're. Going to avoid all conversation

23:38

about vaccine injuries? Yes then I guess I'm

23:40

up. You're going to shut them down a

23:43

go to commercial. Yes you're gonna say was

23:45

a studies don't show that the study.you'll talk

23:47

over Rfk. Yeah what you're saying is is

23:49

simply not true vaccines. The reason why we

23:51

don't have proper my my boss yet as

23:53

is that seems have never been shown to

23:55

show ought to cause autism vaccines and a

23:58

book But look at back to go to

24:00

commercial and then it's just like the person

24:02

shouted the doubts they're probably getting talk in

24:04

their ear. Yeah yeah Don Lemon get off

24:06

the subject it. I like there's there's probably

24:08

someone in their ear to they do have

24:11

earpieces with his think I don't even know

24:13

they have to tell you. When. You

24:15

know that you were being paid by someone,

24:17

gets very easy to just go along with

24:19

whatever narrative those one hundred percent. And in,

24:21

that's a tricky thing. these are La times

24:23

we act like there's he's a group of

24:26

six people that are that are disseminating this

24:28

information or directly hitting abdominal. These other people

24:30

you must behave this way. I think people

24:32

fall in line. I almost human instinct to

24:34

four months when you know who's got your

24:36

back kind of fall in line with it.

24:39

Yeah, the pharmaceutical companies are. Supporting

24:41

twenty five percent of your ads Or thirty? Whatever

24:43

the fuck it is. Yeah, I'm phone line with

24:45

it. Yeah You for my with the narratives in

24:47

the networks. Who with if you write that Washington

24:49

Post you probably fall. Yeah. And when you start

24:51

to ruffle feathers, your articles on get posted and

24:53

then you realize oh shit, if I want my

24:55

articles he opposes I gotta write like this. See

24:57

I kids in private school and I want to

25:00

build a pool and now there's this incentive structure

25:02

this built in without anybody fucking telling you what

25:04

to do exactly. So it's this. It's not as

25:06

like nefarious as people assume it is when you

25:08

hear about like the deep State and movies people

25:10

telling you it's. An incentive structure built in

25:12

and human beings one survive and we start

25:14

kind of doing the things will help us

25:17

survive in. It's all implied. You know what

25:19

you're supposed to say knocking on to search

25:21

the Clinton or speaking feel ignored outta here

25:24

Hillary Clinton speaks nobody ever his want to

25:26

hear her speak with she's getting four hundred

25:28

grand from Goldman Sachs stags actor says you

25:30

know I was here that are secretary status

25:33

with like but context as me to say

25:35

hey by the way. You're.

25:37

Going to get speaking fees to go

25:39

knows it's exactly all fucking know it

25:41

was. That was why during the Trump

25:43

with or debates with Clinton he was

25:45

like release the transcripts of those speeches.

25:48

Oh another yeah. Release my taxes, You release a

25:50

transcript. Yeah and what is the transcript? Hey guys

25:52

do we really need to be here are today

25:54

I go home. You know what? I what I

25:56

you guys to make money with us but literally

25:58

roll it so that's that. That's whoop, whatever

26:00

the deep state, if you will. It's not.

26:03

It's. Not six people will. That's

26:05

the that is Like the

26:08

people that are in your

26:10

crew said start acting entitled.

26:13

When. They're around you Where where was

26:15

the people that the Hillary Clinton's state

26:17

Hillary Clinton's are? The people that are

26:19

likes may be disrespectful to the servers

26:22

and you find out about these sets

26:24

food backs, they talk through. it's not,

26:26

it's not. Some main guy is the

26:28

support staff so you're not in the

26:31

vein people are not the President's right

26:33

to maintain more than political that a

26:35

run and Raytheon the people that are

26:37

running these gigantic yeah. Companies

26:40

that make weapons sued. I didn't.

26:42

you know? The real money When we had I'm

26:44

when we had our town. I mean suck and know

26:46

this, it's but I'm. I. Didn't

26:49

know. like when we're sending money to Ukraine. We're.

26:52

Not really been sending money there. Were.

26:54

Sending money to American military manufacturers and

26:56

make weapons and then the might the

26:59

weapons go to Ukraine's.were paying us yes

27:01

but you can't really put ourselves some

27:03

money. goes over there to and Atlantis

27:06

and a yard enough billions and that

27:08

that money I room where to go.

27:10

Yeah dues are doing coke and drive

27:13

around Rolls Royces and I saw that

27:15

the guy bought the the have always

27:17

had the assistance. With

27:20

of I wasn't the vice president bill have some like

27:22

government figure but like some insane car in the every

27:24

by his and cars in the middle the lottery of

27:26

the money at it might be some rations you might

27:29

want to my ass. Okay so so okay so there's

27:31

a system and exists I called it like the managerial

27:33

class or some like death which I thought was a

27:35

good term. But okay,

27:38

The. Money is going to these different industries

27:40

first. So kind of saying in America. which

27:42

does I guess boost our economy in some

27:44

way. Like those people need to hire people.

27:47

The economy started in a way to look

27:49

at know but I mean a real I

27:51

guess it's like they have to hire people.

27:53

They have to pay people layer and that's

27:55

my worst of the economy In the economy

27:58

is built built on this military, does complex

28:00

or whatever. It is constantly need conflict to

28:02

an order in order to continue the urban

28:04

of the positive momentum of the economy. Yes,

28:07

but they can't say that. The cake. Okay,

28:09

we need war and or for the economy

28:11

to be good. Then up thinking about the

28:13

economy, the thinking about the money that they

28:15

are specifically going to make from these transactions.

28:18

They they're not thinking about our going to

28:20

do this good for the economy. The think

28:22

this is an opportunity to get a massive

28:24

contract and learn the business of constantly making

28:27

more money when you're in a corporation specially

28:29

a publicly traded. Cooperation you have an obligation

28:31

to your shareholders, make more money and give

28:33

a board. You have people that have dumped

28:35

one hundred million dollars in their into the

28:37

company in there staring at me like what

28:39

do we do in to maximize profits and

28:41

just slides. As. Your you

28:44

know working for Cnn you

28:46

know of someone starts say

28:48

this is the vaccines might

28:50

be killing kids. You.

28:53

Gotta step and go. There is no evidence

28:55

for this. You gonna cover? Yeah. Hovering for

28:57

this? Yeah, everyone's covers. And if you're at

28:59

the head of a corporations, it's your job

29:01

to get these contracts. It's a sociopath, that

29:04

sort of a situation and no one's looking

29:06

at it like what is the big picture

29:08

does is really need to be. As isn't

29:10

there some sort of a diplomatic approach mates?

29:12

What was the factors that led us to

29:14

get the situation in the first place was

29:17

going on with Nato? See why they moving

29:19

weapons closer and closer did to Russia's borders?

29:21

Yeah, maybe there's a diplomatic solution. That could

29:23

stop the deaths of hundreds of

29:25

thousands of innocent area. But.

29:27

Now. Now. Make that sadder, let's

29:30

go let's go as yet as as

29:32

acid to different bills right like attached

29:34

to the border bill habitat. Yeah I'll

29:36

just walk out with attack it a

29:38

little Boys are the real animal. You

29:40

can only alleges gray we are as

29:42

he says Russians better for. Us

29:46

as part of education. Bill As

29:48

cigar Know about a Tomahawk Missile

29:51

beds? Yeah yeah. So.

29:53

How do you. Had he stop

29:55

that? Money. And

29:57

the problem is, it's already been embedded, right? Trying

30:00

to tell the mob he can make money

30:02

anymore? Like a you have to do some

30:04

radical things to get the mob out a

30:06

businesses right And that's they. Had a Do

30:08

Giuliani in New York, was a John Gotti

30:10

in the families and lock in there. Buddy

30:12

up a huge you can't just say hey

30:14

guys, stop doing that. Does. That's what

30:17

they do. Is. What They do. That's

30:19

what they did with Iraq. That's what they

30:21

did with Afghanistan as he would Vietnam's yeah

30:23

to do it with everything Via Dei the

30:25

that's what Eisenhower warned the American people about.

30:28

would leave and all day long as which

30:30

is one of the craziest videos in human

30:32

history here where he saying the military industrial

30:34

complex yeah wants to go to war that

30:36

there's a machine that wants to go to

30:39

war and you have to be very careful

30:41

of what does the history the So what?

30:43

World War Two? Yeah the whole country turns

30:45

into a war machines that is absolutely and

30:47

which was beneficial. For us, slate gray

30:49

for the economy, scrape for law sings

30:52

great to unite every damn right for

30:54

not speaking fucking term and for the

30:56

rest of our existence. By an invite

30:58

it turns into a war machine like

31:01

for just starts making tanks. Like.

31:03

Everybody shifts to their goal, right? Is

31:05

that essentially what happens when. School

31:08

lot of people deathly ship their commute ford obviously

31:10

to make cars but like a lot of people

31:12

do shift. Their report also started making military vehicles

31:14

didn't migrants That was my understanding is that like

31:17

every business start to prioritize the war effort run

31:19

and stuff and that overnight but pretty quickly be

31:21

whole country had one singular focus which was if

31:23

we need to go to war yeah we can

31:26

turn it over. It's like a i think that's

31:28

what Napoleon did actually does one of the how

31:30

will he was so thick that he turned the

31:32

whole country into war machine yeah whereas before was

31:34

aware that were just line and up in the

31:37

field and bang and. Back and forth against

31:39

each other. his i know you're fighting the whole

31:41

country. So them A we get to turn over

31:43

and flip and Ford starts making vehicles or whatever

31:45

the fuck a need. For the military efforts, we've

31:47

used competitive advantage. The. money that

31:49

comes in through that and fact check me

31:51

on this please but like the money it's

31:53

or to be generated by that is very

31:55

hard to relinquish when the worst done right

31:57

the worse off than and people will move

31:59

We were making 100 million a year during war. I

32:02

want to go back to 20 million. So

32:04

we need more wars. Is that the idea? Yeah.

32:07

That's definitely a part of the idea. It's also

32:09

connected to a lot of other things too that

32:11

you wouldn't think about, like subsidizing food. So

32:14

subsidizing farmers. So like,

32:16

can you hear about corn subsidies? We have

32:18

corn subsidies. That's why there's corn syrup and

32:20

everything. We picked a crop that could

32:22

feed 300 million people and it just happened to be corn. Well

32:25

what happened was during World War

32:27

II, they started to subsidize

32:30

farmers so that they would have a surplus. So

32:32

in case another war breaks out, they

32:34

always have food storage. They

32:37

have the ability to feed

32:39

the country even if we're cut off

32:41

from the rest of the world. And

32:43

when you're dependent upon foreign countries for

32:46

different things like grains and medicines, and

32:48

that's one of the things we found

32:50

out during COVID, right? A lot of

32:52

medicine is made in China. A

32:55

lot of it was very hard to come by during COVID

32:58

because of the transportation issues. Isn't that one of the

33:00

issues with Ukraine? I'm sure. It's

33:03

not with medicine but with actual grain. Like it's one

33:05

of the largest grain producers in the world. Yes. So

33:08

I think there even had to be like

33:10

an agreement between Russia and Ukraine to continue

33:12

sending out grain during the conflict. Wild.

33:16

Wild. The rules of

33:18

war are so wild. Like

33:20

when someone says it's a war crime, you know,

33:22

like... Who decides the

33:24

level? You can only kill people in

33:26

certain ways. Like one of the

33:29

wildest ones was also during World War

33:31

I. It's a guy named

33:33

Fritz Haber. And Fritz Haber,

33:35

he created the Haber method of

33:38

extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere that's

33:40

responsible for some crazy

33:42

number today. This method is responsible for

33:44

something about... See if this is true.

33:47

I think it's something around 50% of

33:49

the nitrogen in human bodies today

33:53

exists because of the Haber method.

33:56

So 50% of the nitrogen from your

33:58

food has been extracted... the atmosphere

34:00

by the Haber method in order to

34:03

provide fertilizer for plants that we use,

34:05

especially when you talked about industrialized fertilizer

34:07

and commercial grade fertilizer. They have to

34:09

spray it because the

34:12

topsoil is all dead for

34:14

a lot of these modern

34:16

industrial monocrop agriculture establishments. So

34:18

Fritz Haber creates this, but

34:21

he also creates Zyklon A.

34:24

He created this gas that

34:26

they were using. They

34:29

used the gas, they turned it to Zyklon

34:31

B. They took the smell out of it so they

34:33

could kill the Jews with it. And

34:36

he also used the gas when they were

34:38

gassing allied troops in World War I. This

34:41

was the first time that that had been done.

34:43

Chemical warfare. Massive fans and gas,

34:46

and they would blow it onto these

34:48

soldiers and kill them all. And so

34:50

he was both being

34:53

recommended for the Nobel Prize and being a war

34:55

criminal at the

34:59

same time. He was wanted for crimes

35:01

against humanity. At the same

35:03

time, he created the Haber method.

35:05

What's the matter, Jamie? Nearly 50% of

35:07

the nitrogen found in human tissues originated

35:09

from the Haber-Bosch process. Thus,

35:11

Haber process serves as the detonator of

35:14

the population explosion, enabling the global population

35:16

to increase from 1.6 billion in 1900

35:18

to 7.7 billion by 2018. Reverse-fuel

35:25

technology converts electrical energy, water, and

35:27

air into ammonia without a separate

35:30

hydrogen electrolysis process. So this

35:32

is his, I mean, he was a legitimate

35:34

genius. And his story is so fucking tragic.

35:37

When he was leaving to go

35:39

to the front lines to war

35:41

to use his gas, it was

35:43

so controversial. His wife

35:46

committed suicide in front of him, shot herself

35:48

in the heart, and he left her to

35:50

go to the front line while she was

35:52

still alive. He left her with his 13-year-old

35:54

son to take care of her while she

35:57

eventually died. His

36:00

whole life became... Did

36:02

he feel remorse for this at all? I

36:04

don't know. But eventually, during World

36:06

War II, he was

36:09

a Jew and he saw all of

36:11

his other Jewish friends that were scientists

36:13

get pushed out and arrested and all

36:15

these different things that happened and then

36:17

he wound up fleeing and he died

36:19

while he was fleeing. I think he

36:22

died of heart failure. He was

36:24

probably just wracked with stress. What

36:29

did you do? What did you do? You

36:32

created this amazing thing that allows nitrogen

36:34

to get into the soil and feed

36:36

millions of people. Stop

36:39

starvation for millions of people. You also

36:41

created the gas that's killing your own

36:43

people in concentration camps and you also

36:46

created war crimes by being the first

36:50

government, the first army

36:52

to spray chemicals at

36:55

the troops that just kills everybody

36:57

indiscriminately. Men, women, children, anybody

36:59

down to win, dead. So then

37:01

who decides when is there the

37:03

conversation where all the countries unanimously agree on what

37:05

are war crimes and what are not? You

37:08

can kill someone with a bullet, that's

37:10

okay. As

37:13

long as they are not

37:16

an innocent civilian. But then what

37:18

about metadata?

37:20

Do you

37:22

know how they target some people

37:24

with bombs? So

37:27

let's say you're a terrorist and let's say

37:29

you're hanging out in this building and

37:31

the government knows where you are because they

37:34

have your cell phone. So they have the

37:36

metadata of yourself. So they know your cell

37:38

phone is in this room. Game

37:41

over. Everybody dead. Everybody dead.

37:43

Not just you, not just me, not

37:45

just Jamie, security staff, everybody. This is

37:47

the drone strike, the wedding ship. Yeah,

37:50

that's what they do. So

37:52

you know what the percentage is of innocent people

37:54

that die in drone strikes? We

37:57

don't know really because here's the problem. This

38:00

has to be like you have to be kind of honest

38:02

about this like They

38:04

lie, too, right? Like they'll say I'm

38:06

a bad guy, right? Yeah, they oh

38:08

you killed 30 children And

38:11

you know they'll take photos and you're so you're

38:13

getting some of the information as far as they

38:15

never go good shot, right? Yeah, so

38:18

we don't know the exact numbers. There's

38:20

estimated numbers, but for sure It's

38:23

not more bad guys. Yeah for sure It's

38:25

more innocence than it is bad guys in the

38:27

high estimates are in like the 80 and 90

38:30

percent of Innocent civilians that die in

38:32

drone strikes and what is the justification from the

38:34

bad guy over there? We got to get that

38:36

bad guy and it's in another country So

38:38

what's in another country you can kind of get

38:40

away with some shit But also I imagine the

38:42

justification is like that one bad guy could have

38:45

killed hundreds of thousands of other good guys That's

38:47

that's their steel man argument for an imagine because

38:49

they also have to have a justification It can't

38:51

happen without them going hey, we thought about this exactly

38:55

And then the imagine the person that you need

38:57

to pull the trigger on that or push the button Right

39:00

like the Constitution that they have to have

39:02

yeah, that's a lot of guilt.

39:05

This is goes back to the sociopathy Oh,

39:07

they have massive PTSD Yeah,

39:09

yeah those people that run they said it's

39:11

a unique form of PTSD because they weren't

39:13

really there right there behind a

39:15

fucking video Xbox

39:18

controller Do

39:20

that have presidents ever said that like Have

39:24

like did Lincoln write anything about the

39:26

death toll during the Civil War? Good

39:28

question like I wonder if even modern

39:30

day like does Obama talk about it

39:32

the people that died the bushes like

39:34

I think you Can't George Bush has

39:36

handled Iraq better than anybody in

39:39

history just been paint Hey

39:42

dogs, just a little fucking lozenges to

39:44

Michelle There's nothing going on And

39:47

maybe you need somebody that's kind of not got

39:49

a lot going on up there to do it

39:51

Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that they

39:53

made movies about dick Cheney Afterwards

39:56

they made him out to be this monster

39:58

that like I feel like that's taking all

40:00

accountability away from the guy who was in charge. It's

40:02

very easy to be like, yeah, it was just him.

40:04

This guy's got a cosign of two and that's the

40:06

job. If you're the head coach

40:08

of the team and the assistant coach is making all

40:10

the bad decisions, we still blame the head coach, right?

40:13

He's also the son of a great man. And

40:16

when your dad is Herbert Walker Bush, who was

40:18

the head of the CIA, and you are

40:21

second fiddle,

40:23

you're good at taking directions. And

40:26

that's why you'd make a good president. You're a good,

40:28

handsome man. They're going to smoke them

40:30

out of their holes. You look like a president and

40:32

then it looks like an old dick take things behind

40:35

the scenes. And just look at the

40:37

evidence of what they did, right? All the

40:39

things that they gave Halliburton, no bid contracts

40:41

for fucking billions of dollars to

40:43

rebuild Iraq. How wild is this

40:45

that the guy was the vice president? What's

40:48

on the board of those? He

40:50

was the head of Halliburton before. Was

40:54

he getting a piece during his vice presidency? Yes.

40:57

Yeah, that seems like a conflict of interest. He

40:59

is blowing these places up. He's

41:02

blowing these places up. It's like

41:05

their decisions that are causing these

41:07

places to get blown up. If I make money on

41:09

building. Dick Cheney resumes role as

41:11

chairman of Halliburton company. Oh, he's back.

41:14

Wow. That may be old. When is

41:16

this? I don't know. Is it after he left

41:18

office? I might have 2000, so yeah, this was actually before, right?

41:22

Well, no, this is during the Bush administration, right? Effective

41:24

today, 2000. He became president right around

41:27

then. Right. He

41:30

resumed his role while he was vice president.

41:32

No, I thought I misread what

41:34

was happening here because it said February. But it says. I

41:37

clicked that first here. Right. February

41:39

24. Cheney will succeed.

41:41

Bill Bradford. Click it again. But

41:44

then it's like an old. Okay. Dick Cheney

41:46

resumes role. This is a new article. It

41:48

says. So look at it says

41:50

Dick Cheney has resumed role of chairman of board

41:53

of Halliburton effective today, February 1st, 2000. We'll

41:56

also continue. That's weird that it just came out. Weird

41:59

continuing his current. Also continues

42:01

current position as chief executive officer of

42:03

the company joining Halbert so this was

42:05

right before the election I think this is

42:07

the announcement when yeah, I think I

42:09

got confused but February 1st 2000

42:12

means he's already in office correct or is it 2001? It's

42:16

January 2001 which goes into office right

42:18

election was 2000. Yeah, so this is

42:20

11 months earlier So

42:22

is he even named as vice president yet?

42:25

Not Is he running

42:27

with him at that time? I became vice

42:29

president January 20 It's almost one year later

42:32

right, but I'm saying is he named as

42:34

vice president during the as a running mate

42:36

I'm checking when then right because that's generally

42:38

a little later once someone wins the primaries

42:40

they announced their VP Yeah, but

42:43

if you're not actually president you can hold another

42:45

position or vice president if you're not actually in

42:47

government you can up to That I would like

42:49

to meet you. You'd like to meet him. Yeah

42:51

I would just talk to him about I

42:54

wouldn't want to dig. I would just talk to

42:56

him I just want to find out what makes him tick. What

42:58

do you think? Hal Burton reportedly

43:00

reached the agreement on July 20 to allow

43:02

Cheney to retire with a package of the

43:05

estimated 20 million. Let's go dick It's

43:08

I mean pulled it off man. Do you ever wish

43:10

you didn't know all this stuff? Yes,

43:13

the ignorance is bliss. Yes, I

43:16

feel a Tremendous weight

43:18

of the amount of people that pay attention To

43:22

the shit I say it's a tremendous weight

43:25

So you feel like there's some things like I

43:27

would rather just be a hayseed Yeah,

43:29

just fucking hanging out on my farm in Kansas

43:32

Shooting deer with both that's what I was gonna ask

43:34

like when you're out shooting deer. That's

43:37

my favorite time that I'm disconnected I don't

43:39

have cell phone service. I don't have shit.

43:41

You're not thinking about the deep state No,

43:43

man, I'm thinking about mountain lions and I'm

43:46

thinking about Bugling elk. Yeah,

43:48

I'm thinking how my cardio is I get

43:50

enough electrolytes in me this morning make sure

43:52

my protein take is right. Yeah, I'm going

43:56

Eight fucking miles a day

43:58

in the mouth hard shit That's

44:00

something I've noticed about you,

44:02

and I think it's an important quality

44:04

to have as

44:09

you achieve more success because

44:11

with success, life can get

44:13

easier. So if you're

44:15

not addicted to difficulty and

44:18

hard situations, it's easy to

44:20

just kind of fall into the

44:22

comfort of nothing because there

44:24

was a guy who I had on the podcast, Russ, who's

44:27

an awesome artist. And

44:30

he was like, yeah, once you get money, things become

44:32

easy, and then anything that's not easy, you

44:34

get very anxious about and fearful of.

44:37

So you like hard things.

44:40

You admire David Goggins because he's doing hard

44:42

shit all the time. I

44:45

think a lot of times people don't like hard

44:47

things, and then when they get success, hard things

44:49

make them anxious, and they stop doing hard things,

44:51

and hard things are what make us successful. When

44:54

we have nothing, we have to do hard things. We have

44:56

to go up in front of crowds that might not be

44:58

good. We have to go run fucking really hard. We have

45:00

to work out really hard, whatever it is. And

45:04

I wonder if that's when kids who grow up

45:06

with very wealthy parents are not

45:08

used to hard things, and they don't really have to do

45:10

anything hard. And if they

45:12

don't have that as a core value to them, that doing

45:14

hard things is good, of course they're going to be anxious

45:16

about everything. Of course they're going to use drugs. Of course

45:18

they're going to be bored out of their fucking mind. So

45:21

it's one of those things that I don't eat

45:23

as I've gotten potentially more comfortable

45:26

life. I don't force myself to do things I'm

45:28

afraid of, or I do think

45:30

that I would just kind of get weak and fall apart. Comfort

45:34

is a warm and enticing poison.

45:37

And it's a slow poison. You

45:40

can take a little bit on it on the couch

45:42

just relaxing. And it is nice. Take

45:44

a little of it. It's nice. But don't

45:46

let that get into your veins, because it'll make

45:48

the rest of your life harder, because you're going

45:50

to encounter hard things. And if the hard thing

45:53

that you don't voluntarily subscribe to, the hard thing

45:55

that you don't force yourself into isn't harder than

45:57

the other things in life, you're going to have

45:59

have a hard time managing. Yeah, and it's voluntary.

46:02

It has to be voluntary. You have to choose

46:04

it. You have to have discipline. There's a... I

46:06

think characters like cardio. I think you

46:09

have to keep it up. Yep.

46:11

I do. I really do. You

46:13

take a few weeks off of cardio,

46:15

you're like, huh, huh, huh. I think

46:17

that's the same with character and I

46:19

think it's the same with doing difficult

46:21

things and also self-assessing honestly, knowing where

46:23

you fucked up. There's moments that

46:25

you have, I'm sure, in your life where you look back. It might

46:27

have been 10 years ago. You're like, fuck, why did I say that

46:29

to that dude? Yes, sir. I didn't need

46:31

to say that. I didn't need to say that. I shouldn't have said

46:34

that. Oh, God, I was just in the

46:36

wrong place, wrong time, wrong headspace. Why did I do

46:38

that? Oh, I was drunk. Why did I say

46:40

that? Why did I do that? Those things,

46:43

you should know those too. You don't

46:45

absolve yourself with those things. Know those

46:47

things are real and just

46:49

always constantly strive to do better. The

46:51

problem is when people fuck up, they

46:54

think of themselves as that fuck up

46:56

and that's a difficult thing for someone with

46:58

a bad past, like dudes have been in

47:00

jail, it's really difficult for them. That becomes

47:02

their identity. It becomes a part of who

47:04

you recognize, that's a part of your behavior

47:07

characteristics. You don't think of yourself as the

47:09

best you when you made the right decision,

47:11

when your friend calls you and you could

47:13

tell him, I'm busy, bro, I can't help

47:15

you. Be like, I could put that shit

47:17

aside, go help my boy and go help your friend.

47:19

And then you show up for him, he's like, dude,

47:21

you're here for me. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it

47:23

so much, man. And you're helping him

47:25

fix his tire or move or whatever the fuck it

47:27

is. Those moments, man,

47:30

unite human beings. They're

47:32

very, very important moments. And that's what everybody

47:34

should strive for. You should strive for the

47:37

moments when you worked really hard at something

47:39

and you accomplished it. When

47:41

you didn't want to get through a workout, but

47:43

you did it. When you finished the marathon, when

47:45

you apologized for being out of line, when

47:47

you told people how you feel about them, even

47:50

though it felt vulnerable. That's what I tell you,

47:52

I love you so much. You inspire me. You're

47:54

an amazing human being and I'm so, I'm so

47:56

happy you're in my life. That's

47:58

what we all should be aspiring. Yeah, aspiring

48:00

to be better versions of ourselves and in

48:02

aspiring to put ourselves in in situations that

48:04

we fear like everything You want is on

48:07

the other side of what you fear that

48:09

somebody said that and I really believe it

48:11

though Like every situation I put myself in

48:13

that I'm scared of or anxious about That

48:16

even if it doesn't work out perfectly. I do

48:19

feel This confidence boost that

48:21

I at least tried Yeah,

48:23

you know what I mean? I least fucking tried. I was scared of

48:25

doing it and I can try and then if it works out The

48:28

best feeling in the world. Yeah, I put the

48:30

out That's the worst

48:32

feeling it is the fucking worst worst feeling.

48:34

That's the importance of like Like

48:38

the nice thing about stand-up I guess is that like

48:41

we know that we can't

48:43

take months off right it

48:45

atrophies fast fast weeks

48:47

off Yeah, it's like

48:49

we have to go up. We have to constantly

48:51

go up and And Yeah,

48:54

there are there are things in life that are a million times

48:56

more difficult than people have to do But it is one of

48:59

those things that's built into the thing that we kind of love

49:01

which is we have to keep doing this And

49:03

every time we try something new it's

49:05

bad. Yeah, but we're also addicted to

49:08

that accomplishment vibe that

49:10

accomplishment energy like when you get

49:12

so that that that feeling is

49:14

a Amazing feeling fuck.

49:16

I did it. I also like the chaos

49:18

of it When there's like I

49:20

was hanging on the beach with my wife on something

49:23

I'm like, I'm really bad with vacations if I don't

49:25

have things to do during it. I can't just hang

49:27

on the beach Yeah, I cannot do it if I'm

49:29

surfing I can do it or playing paddle I can

49:31

do it But I need to do shit right give

49:33

me something to do right and my wife knows I

49:35

don't care if we're looking at the Coliseum. I'm learning.

49:38

Yeah fucking tour guide question Let me

49:40

to do a thing. Yeah, because if I'm not

49:43

My brain goes fucking crazy. Mm-hmm.

49:45

It needs to be occupied. Yeah,

49:47

I'm lucky that I have that

49:50

Imagine I was really comfy doing nothing. Yeah, why

49:52

would I do anything? It's a superpower? It's

49:54

it's but it has to be managed. It's like having

49:56

a Ferrari engine, you know, if you ever mean if

49:59

you have a Ferrari engine you know

50:01

in a fucking Toyota

50:03

Corolla yeah like that shit doesn't have the

50:05

tires for it yeah yeah yeah you're gonna

50:08

turn out yeah yeah you're into a tree

50:10

you know you you have to learn how

50:12

to manage that kind of a mind and

50:14

you've built up a suspension and wide tires

50:17

and yeah strong carbon fiber ceramic brakes like

50:19

you gotta have all those things so is

50:21

that what you're constantly doing are you constantly

50:23

looking for more shit you're afraid of in

50:27

your life well difficult things I

50:29

like difficult things I like that's all I

50:31

cold-plunging I like it because it's hard people

50:33

I hate it I hate fun I fucking

50:35

like it yeah I don't like it yeah

50:37

every time I'm about to do it there's

50:39

this little bitch-ass part of my brain it's

50:41

like yeah yeah yeah and I'm the other

50:43

part of my brain does that built up

50:45

over the years like shut up pussy I'm

50:47

the boss so it's building the death it's

50:49

not even like okay yeah there are great

50:52

was it not side effects but are there a great main

50:54

effects come of the inflammation goes down whatever more about building

50:57

the fucking discipline to do the shit you don't want to

50:59

do yeah but also because it's good for you if it

51:01

was bad for me if I didn't want to do it

51:03

and every time I did it it was killing me a

51:05

little bit I wouldn't do it but

51:08

I do it because I know it's good

51:10

for you and I know you feel great

51:12

when you get out of it but Goggins

51:14

I'm sure running all those fucking miles like

51:16

his joints are destroyed his feet are fucked

51:18

up like there's a certain point of diminishing

51:20

return yes but but also you have to

51:22

have the outlier which is you have to

51:24

have the dude that's pure mind that's all

51:26

just on the drive and that's Goggins you

51:28

have to have the guy so he's the

51:30

extreme version of uncommon amongst

51:33

uncommon men amongst all the psychos

51:35

out there he's King psycho so

51:37

it's not that he runs

51:39

long it's that he will do the thing

51:41

despite that little voice inside him saying you

51:44

don't want to do this and he'll tell

51:46

you he has a voice he was I

51:48

stare my sneakers sometimes for 30 minutes before

51:50

I put those motherfuckers on yeah yeah yeah

51:53

he'll tell you but he always wins it's

51:55

like the dude when I'm taking the lead

51:57

off that cold plunge yeah as I'm taking

52:00

It off they like don't do it. Don't

52:02

do it. I'm like shut the fuck up.

52:04

You got three more apps Oh, God, I

52:06

set my watch And

52:09

I climb right in it Yeah,

52:12

yeah And

52:14

because I get through it every day. I gotta I start

52:17

the day off with a win I won

52:19

I beat the inner bitch. Yeah, I conquered the

52:21

inner bitch I got in there, and then I

52:23

do the workout that's that's win number two You

52:26

know yeah by the time the day is over.

52:28

I've done shit that most people will never do

52:30

What do you feel when you're on vacation?

52:32

Do you feel like a crazy person you feel

52:35

like a wolf on a fucking in for a

52:37

little boy in the ocean? Yeah, yeah, just go

52:39

on what am I doing on this fucking

52:41

thing is your wife going hey? You need to

52:43

chill out I know how to do it now

52:46

first of all every day starts out with a

52:48

workout You do half like I have to

52:50

yeah, I told Elmo I was like listen we

52:52

can go to these places the

52:54

first three hours of the day Yeah, I'm doing

52:56

what I need to do yeah once I calm it all down

52:59

Let's fucking drink a whatever on the beach.

53:01

I don't care Yeah, but the first three

53:03

I need I need to

53:05

do what I need to do I need

53:07

breaks breaks are good, but I don't really

53:10

need a vacation because my life is awesome.

53:12

I love it I love I've

53:14

cultivated a wonderful life. I love my family.

53:16

I love my friends. I love my jobs

53:19

So I'm happy. I'm a happy dude with

53:21

what I do so when I

53:23

go on vacation. It's like okay I just want

53:25

to just have fun with the family Yeah, but

53:27

I have to do something about this thing and

53:29

your family knows this bitch. Yes They know me

53:31

what about your kids are they like okay? He

53:33

just needs to work out. They get it. They

53:36

have it, too Yeah,

53:38

yeah, they both have it really they both

53:40

have some psycho drive one of them for

53:42

art the other one is gymnastics and When

53:45

you see it manifested like for example, do you

53:47

see them looking like the wolf when

53:49

you guys are on vacation? Do you see them

53:51

kind of pacing down the things you have to

53:53

get I got a conversation with my middle daughter

53:56

At one point down. She's like when we first

53:58

moved here. She's real anxious And I go

54:00

you're a racehorse you got to get back to racing

54:02

Yeah, you get back to competing again and soon as

54:05

she went back to that everything is fine She

54:08

just was like, you know didn't know

54:10

we're in a new place making new

54:12

friends Yeah, but there's like physical anxiety

54:14

that comes with being a human being

54:16

that I think activity Dimitish

54:18

it up and you need something like that. You need

54:20

the hardest thing of your day to be something that

54:23

you choose You know, it might

54:25

not be you Obviously

54:27

circumstances are random and you could have

54:29

a terrible thing happen to you Yeah,

54:31

but if you've built up your

54:33

understanding of how to get through difficult

54:35

things It'll serve you in everything you

54:37

do and if you do it voluntarily

54:40

Then you you've gained control over your

54:43

mental process you want to sit? So

54:46

so with the kids Do

54:49

you is this something you instill in

54:51

them? You're only little it's a little

54:53

much man. You gotta be real loose-handed.

54:55

You got to let them be their

54:57

own thing They're their own little people.

54:59

It's very fascinating Are you

55:01

rewarding and lighting the fire once you see

55:03

that they're really drawn to something? Oh for

55:06

sure Yeah, you wait for them to choose.

55:08

Yeah, you lean the fuck in. Yeah. Well,

55:10

you just Praise is very important

55:12

for kids. It means a lot It could really

55:14

motivate them to excel to higher and higher levels.

55:17

Is that easy for you to to give them

55:19

the positive encouragement Oh,

55:21

it's so easy. Yeah, my youngest is

55:23

an insane artist dude. I'm saying I'm

55:25

gonna show you this She's

55:29

13 Wow

55:33

Dude it was she was doing in crazy

55:35

crazy work when she was six I

55:38

showed one of her things to David Cho when she was

55:40

like six or seven. He was like, holy fuck man I

55:43

did she's crazy talented Jesus. Yeah

55:45

and She'll

55:47

the she she's 13 She'll

55:49

sit and she'll she'll draw for hours

55:52

and hours man Just completely locked in

55:54

and focused and you know when I

55:56

was young I wanted to be a

55:58

comic book illustrator So

56:00

I was an artist when I was young but I wasn't as

56:02

good as her. I wasn't as good. I don't think I'm as

56:05

good as her now. She's 13. Do

56:07

you? It's crazy. Do you find yourself competing

56:09

with them at all? No. No, no, no.

56:11

Unless we're playing games. That's what I'm saying.

56:13

Yeah, I'm gonna win. Okay. Oh

56:15

yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to win. Do you ever?

56:17

Okay, you won't give them a... No. You

56:20

won't give them nothing. No. Interesting.

56:22

No. Does it drive them

56:24

crazy when they lose? No, they win. They win a lot, man. Okay.

56:26

Okay. We did

56:28

Virtual Reality and my 13-year-old beat

56:31

me at this sword fighting game and she

56:33

fucking loved it. She killed me. And? It's

56:35

like one of these... Do you know what sandbox

56:37

is? You have your sandbox? Oh, dude. Oh, this is

56:39

the dopest. Sandbox, you're in a warehouse. Okay. I

56:42

love it. You have a haptic feedback vest.

56:44

My favorite one is the zombie one. But

56:47

we compete in the zombie one too. Hold on, hold on, hold on. This

56:49

is a console that you're wearing? Like a VR goggles or

56:51

something? No. Okay, you go to a place. Okay. It's

56:54

called Sandbox VR. Okay. It's a big

56:56

warehouse. Okay. And inside these

56:58

warehouses, they have these spaces that are a

57:00

little larger than this room. Okay. Okay. And

57:02

in this space, they give you a virtual

57:04

reality headset. They give you a haptic feedback

57:06

vest. So you can feel... You feel like

57:08

you're getting hit or you're getting grabbed by

57:10

zombies and then they give you a gun.

57:13

You have a plastic gun, okay? And then

57:15

you see yourself, you see everybody. Everybody's like

57:17

tactical ops outfits on a ship with helmets

57:20

and you're like, whoo, you're high five, you

57:22

dance, you see each other dressed as these

57:24

characters. And

57:26

then it's basically mapped out to the size of your body and

57:28

they put you in these things. So

57:31

then they drop you off in

57:33

Deadwood Mansion. And Deadwood Mansion is

57:35

this haunted house and this crazy

57:37

scientist who developed zombies and the

57:40

zombies start invading the house. Okay.

57:43

And you're just gunning them down. And we always

57:45

compete to see who kills the most zombies. But

57:47

I have a lot of gun experience. I

57:50

fucked those zombies up, man. I

57:53

at one point in time had number three in the country or

57:55

the number three score in the country. Yeah,

57:57

bro. I went and... Oh, this is it.

58:00

So let me just give you

58:02

a pro tip if you want this you want this

58:04

game get the shotgun Shotgun face

58:06

shots you want face shots on zombies. Yeah,

58:08

don't be fucking around with the legs See

58:11

the machine guns are fun and everything like

58:13

that and you reload by just going like

58:15

this Yeah, point the gun

58:17

down and it reloads bro. It's

58:19

so fun I'm so addicted to this game

58:21

that you're in this house and it's all

58:23

like dark and shadowy and shit and the

58:26

Light from your pistols with lighting

58:28

these zombies. Yeah, bro. It's so much

58:31

fun but But

58:34

yeah, I always try to win Zombies

58:37

so at the end of the day

58:39

get the VIP. What is the VIP

58:41

VIP is the most valuable player the

58:43

MVP Yeah, it's VIP though very important

58:45

player. Okay, or MV. I don't know

58:47

if they say MVP but either way

58:49

Yeah, I always win that shit. Yeah

58:52

Instinct cannot go away as long as it's

58:54

like you're just understanding that everyone's just trying

58:56

their best Yeah, so when they beat you

58:58

like oh my god, they beat me at

59:00

a game or something like that like They

59:04

love it. They love it. I'm like you got me. Yeah,

59:06

but it's fun when they win. It's fun when they

59:08

beat you It's your child. Yeah doing something really good.

59:10

How old are they now 13 and 15 the honest

59:12

ones? Okay, and when

59:14

they were are there moments?

59:17

That you hold your kid now eight

59:19

weeks Wow So, yeah,

59:21

I'm like are there everybody I talked to

59:23

goes it goes by really fast that's the

59:25

first thing they all say when I say and What

59:29

are the moments in this stretch that you wish

59:31

that you kind of held on to longer or

59:34

you didn't realize how amazing they Were until they

59:36

were gone. I don't really think like that nothing.

59:38

Okay, I don't think like that I'm

59:40

happy. Yeah, you know and I'm happy they're healthy

59:43

and I'm happy there You know, look, I have

59:45

friends that have kids that have real problems real

59:47

health problems. Yeah, it's the most heartbreaking Devastating

59:51

thing to see Someone going

59:53

through the the real struggles

59:55

of a kid that is

59:57

your child. That's all fucked

59:59

up So number one was

1:00:01

healthy. Yeah, like everybody was like don't you

1:00:04

want a boy? I'm like, I want healthy

1:00:06

kids Yeah, I don't care for ya grower

1:00:08

boy. Really. I genuinely didn't care. I just

1:00:10

wanted to be happy and healthy Well, you

1:00:12

don't like girls like what he's saying. Yeah,

1:00:15

you only want boys Yeah, yeah, if I

1:00:17

had boys it would come with the added

1:00:19

responsibility of training a psycho Yeah, yeah, cuz

1:00:21

I'm assuming they're gonna be like a little

1:00:24

me Yeah, and like if I didn't find

1:00:26

martial arts, I would have been a real

1:00:28

problem If I didn't find

1:00:30

some outlet some competitive like dangerous

1:00:32

outlet to test me as a

1:00:35

man Yeah, I was an angry

1:00:37

kid man what it's not

1:00:39

good to grow up a boy and Be

1:00:43

an angry boy and not have an outlet. Why do

1:00:45

you want to have control of it? You know, why

1:00:47

do you think you were angry? I think a lot

1:00:49

of his genetic Really? Yeah,

1:00:51

there's a lot of just there's I think

1:00:53

a lot of people like what's inside of

1:00:55

them is genetic It's learned experiences being around

1:00:57

violence when I was young. There's quite a

1:01:00

few things that I think are attached to

1:01:02

it But I think there's some

1:01:04

part of its genetic. There's some part of

1:01:06

drive I think that's genetic too, which is

1:01:08

interesting when you see your kids have it

1:01:11

Yeah, I've talked to friends about that who have multiple

1:01:13

kids and they can see it in some and and

1:01:15

others They just don't really see it out

1:01:17

of the box. They're different. Yeah. Yeah like

1:01:20

my 15 year old is

1:01:22

like hyper focused on things

1:01:24

hyper focused on athletics hyper folks But

1:01:26

also very loved like doesn't have this

1:01:29

desire to prove herself like I had

1:01:31

I was like I'm not a loser

1:01:34

I'm gonna show Everybody yeah that I'm

1:01:36

not a loser Yeah, that was like my drive

1:01:38

as a kid in martial arts were the first

1:01:40

thing that I ever did where I was like

1:01:42

Hey, I'm not a loser. It's also the most

1:01:44

humbling thing. Oh the most humbling.

1:01:47

Yeah the most one, but I got good at

1:01:49

it quick I was I was very lucky. There's

1:01:51

always someone better I don't know like but I

1:01:53

got lucky that I was going into it at

1:01:55

the right time I have some athletic experience like

1:01:57

I had done I had wrestled I'd done basically

1:02:00

I played some sports. I wasn't like totally

1:02:02

inept. I was a when I played baseball

1:02:04

Well, I was so selfish. I

1:02:06

would never try to get on first Strike

1:02:12

out and they would always tell me just get

1:02:14

on base I'm like right and I'd get up

1:02:16

there. I don't give a fuck what you just

1:02:18

said that balls coming I'm either gonna be a

1:02:21

loser or a hero Let's go

1:02:23

a hundred percent I never did not try to

1:02:25

hit a home run and they would always be

1:02:27

mad at me Because I could

1:02:29

hit home runs, but I could also strike out. Yeah,

1:02:31

I struck out a lot But if

1:02:33

I connected I had a fucking crank. Yeah,

1:02:36

I sent that ball flying. I loved it

1:02:38

I loved watching that ball fly over the

1:02:40

fence Like yeah, I am never not gonna

1:02:43

do that like if you tell me like

1:02:45

just bunt suck my dick I'm

1:02:47

not bumping. I don't give a fuck if we lose I

1:02:50

Don't care. That's why you can't do the team sports.

1:02:53

That's why it has to be the one-on-one We

1:02:56

lost cuz Billy dropped the ball fuck yourself.

1:02:58

Yeah. Yeah. I did. Yeah, I know what I can do

1:03:01

It's my time at bat. I'm in home run

1:03:04

So when I found that there was martial arts

1:03:06

or both hunting. Yeah, I'm going for the home

1:03:08

run It's just me. Yeah, and

1:03:11

I can get better based entirely on how

1:03:13

much effort I put into it Yeah, then

1:03:15

I just became upset. You still love the

1:03:17

camaraderie I love the camaraderie, but you learn

1:03:19

from the other people that are also doing

1:03:21

the thing I wasn't competitive with them with

1:03:24

where I had to be better than them

1:03:26

I wanted to be better than the people I was competing

1:03:29

against and they helped me Do you better because

1:03:31

these are who these are the people I train

1:03:33

with? Okay. Yeah, those are family I'm yeah, very

1:03:35

good friends with one of my guys that I

1:03:37

trained with back then really I talked to him

1:03:39

all the time Yeah, yeah, I've known him stuff

1:03:42

52 guys to those guys the I'm known I'm still

1:03:44

15 years old one of them's just out here to

1:03:46

visit It's it's funny that you see it even in

1:03:48

martial arts Like you know when a guy wins the

1:03:50

first thing he does is often compliment his coaches in

1:03:53

a hundred percent And you're everything we need that we

1:03:55

need that shared. Yes. I've always got that in team

1:03:57

sports I love that like a team win like

1:04:00

Me and four other guys playing basketball when we're not

1:04:02

as talented as the other team and you win, but

1:04:04

we win Yeah, oh just going

1:04:06

out for beers afterwards talking about our I mean

1:04:08

we're old fucking guys But that's more of a

1:04:10

cooperative thing than being at bat That's

1:04:13

what I'm about being a bat though is

1:04:15

like uh-uh. This is just me Yeah,

1:04:17

like I'm not passing the blue if I could

1:04:20

pass the ball over to you and you're open

1:04:22

and you can get a clean shot I would

1:04:24

100% do that if I was playing team sports.

1:04:26

Yeah, I wouldn't be greedy like that. Yeah, but

1:04:28

baseball Yeah, you go for it. It's just me

1:04:38

They would always get mad at me yeah, this one

1:04:40

coach It was like very strategic always trying to win

1:04:42

yeah, and he knew that if he put me up

1:04:44

there. I was cranking that ball But

1:04:49

that is yeah, I just wasn't designed for baseball,

1:04:51

but that's you in life though right yeah But

1:04:53

if I could figure out something where I would

1:04:56

be 100% of my own

1:04:58

you know when I got in there like

1:05:00

fighting. It's a hundred percent You are

1:05:02

comedy you built this team you built all

1:05:04

these friends this community, but when you're on

1:05:06

stage It's all you it has

1:05:09

to be you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:05:11

but those people also help you get better

1:05:13

like when I'm doing shows and Shane

1:05:16

Gillis is on show and Ron white and

1:05:18

Brian Simpson you put strong eyes on yeah

1:05:21

And I'll go on stage an hour and a

1:05:23

half into that dude. How funny is Derek man.

1:05:25

Derek is so good Eric is grown so much.

1:05:27

Oh my god and being at the club like

1:05:29

he's doing so many sets Yeah, he's just grateful.

1:05:31

He's doing the little boy fat man. He's going

1:05:33

back and forth to the room Yeah, doing all

1:05:36

these sets on the road with you Yeah, and

1:05:38

he's a true like team guy like he comes

1:05:40

from sports in that way like he's like he

1:05:42

wants the show to be Great yeah, he wants

1:05:44

to I mean he's a great human Gem

1:05:47

of a human being and a happy sweetheart

1:05:50

of a guy everybody loves to be so grateful

1:05:52

for you, man And just a great problem experience

1:05:54

like he was one of the first guys to

1:05:56

take a chance. I know come out here Yeah,

1:05:59

you know I'm what you? Yeah, like all right.

1:06:01

He is like if he says that he means that shit.

1:06:03

Oh, yeah Yeah, and watching him grow dude like but he

1:06:05

knew also what I told him I was gonna do it

1:06:07

I'm like we're gonna do this. Yeah, we're gonna do this.

1:06:09

It's gonna be the greatest club in the world Yeah, which

1:06:12

is crazy thing to say to pop

1:06:14

up a scene in the middle of Texas

1:06:18

But we did it It's insane which we

1:06:20

did because the guys like Derek guys like

1:06:22

a son and Bryan Simpson Yeah, those guys

1:06:24

have moved here early Tom Segura moved here

1:06:26

early When he says I'm in

1:06:28

when Tom Segura said I was in like earlier

1:06:30

on I was like, oh shit This is happening.

1:06:32

Yeah, cuz Tom did it early in the pandemic.

1:06:34

I started I bought this house I sent him

1:06:37

a video from my back out. I go boys.

1:06:39

What are you doing? Fire

1:06:43

yeah, no one here has a mask on I

1:06:45

go I think this is bullshit come down. Let's

1:06:47

have that Let's have a good time. Yeah. Yeah,

1:06:49

and Tom was like I'm in he was he

1:06:51

came out here early That means

1:06:53

a lot to you left off. Yeah Because it was

1:06:55

a crazy chance I was asking people to take yeah,

1:06:58

it wasn't just I'm gonna open up a club in

1:07:00

Pasadena It wasn't like I bought the ice house. Yeah,

1:07:02

like if I bought the ice house and I was

1:07:04

for sale for a while Yeah, and you know, I

1:07:06

do Jerry bus bought it, right? Yeah I honor the

1:07:08

Lakers or whatever and they redid it and I'm super

1:07:11

happy that they did that cuz it's an amazing club

1:07:13

And I love that place but at one point in

1:07:15

time I was thinking about buying the the I remember

1:07:17

you telling me that I was like maybe I just

1:07:19

bought that place if but if I ask guys to

1:07:21

come to the ice house, that's easy. There's no there's

1:07:23

no 20 minute drive Sacrifice stay in

1:07:25

your same house. Yeah, it had to be

1:07:28

all those factors happening at the same time

1:07:30

It had to be kovat it

1:07:32

had to be this weird way that they

1:07:34

were governing these cities And that they weren't

1:07:36

doing it in other parts of the country

1:07:39

particularly, Florida in here Yeah, and also that

1:07:41

you couldn't do stand-up. You couldn't do any

1:07:43

stand-up in LA They were stopping outside stand-up

1:07:45

at the park home and the comedy store

1:07:47

in the parking lot Yeah, they wouldn't let

1:07:49

them do comedy outside. Yeah, it didn't make

1:07:51

any sense It was all crazy

1:07:54

and it was going on forever and we were out here Doing

1:07:57

shows and we were putting it up on Instagram and there

1:07:59

was like What the fuck is happening?

1:08:01

Yeah, motherfuckers are doing show. Yeah, you

1:08:03

know and we first started doing

1:08:06

live shows indoors in November of

1:08:08

2020 And it felt so wrong

1:08:10

like what are we doing? Yeah,

1:08:13

I did one weekend out here in July of 2020 and

1:08:16

I decided after it that I couldn't do it anymore

1:08:19

I didn't get sick, but I was like, but what

1:08:21

if I did and what if I gave it to

1:08:23

someone? I would that person died like what if I

1:08:25

gave it to a guest you felt a responsibility? I

1:08:27

was terrified. Yeah, because I felt like I would I

1:08:29

would never forgive myself if I had some wonderful sweet

1:08:32

Scientists as a guest and I gave that person kovat

1:08:34

and they wind up dying Yeah, because I was so

1:08:36

selfish that I had to go on the road and

1:08:38

do stand. This is the empathy thing. Yes Well,

1:08:42

it's also just you're not good for the CIA Joe

1:08:44

terrible for the CIA. I'll be terrible I would give

1:08:46

you give me in that UFO program. No, I'll keep my mouth

1:08:48

shut Probably what is

1:08:50

it? Give me in the UFO. Show me what you got

1:08:52

Do you know what you got? I won't tell anybody do

1:08:54

you think they got I'll be a disinformation agent for you

1:08:59

You just want to know I will

1:09:02

say whatever you need Joe

1:09:07

you can take the UFO for a spin,

1:09:10

but don't floor it you can

1:09:12

punt in the UFO I

1:09:14

would listen because I don't want to turn the jelly If

1:09:17

you're going faster than what if there's no

1:09:19

way that you can die in this machine

1:09:21

It's built in a way where you cannot

1:09:23

die, but we're asking you to bunt

1:09:26

I would but you'd have to but you

1:09:29

have to bump because you're gonna come back to the

1:09:31

ground You don't have to land that's like they're gonna

1:09:33

kill you Over

1:09:41

the Adriatic Sea this thing man. No. Yeah. Yeah, you

1:09:43

got a look if they get you in the UFO

1:09:45

First of all, I wouldn't ask to pilot it I

1:09:47

just like you just want to be for a spit

1:09:49

show me what the fuck this thing does where you

1:09:51

come from Where did it come from

1:09:53

and then I and then and then I say

1:09:55

okay, so what do I tell them China? Chinese

1:10:00

man, so that's how I should read man.

1:10:02

That's the last thing for you. It's UFO

1:10:04

It's if once you feel that well it

1:10:06

would suck to go to your grave and

1:10:08

not know because it seems like

1:10:11

Something for it's not

1:10:13

what I thought when I was young when

1:10:15

I was young I thought UFOs are probably

1:10:18

real but a lot of these stories are

1:10:20

bullshit And I don't even

1:10:22

know if UFOs actually are real or people

1:10:24

are just liars or if it's something that

1:10:26

we want to believe Because of science fiction

1:10:29

right Orson Welles and all that stuff But

1:10:32

now I don't think that anymore now I

1:10:34

think because of talking to God well you

1:10:36

you and I went to dinner with Bob

1:10:38

was our before he did the podcast Which

1:10:40

was how fascinating I was I always tell

1:10:43

people I believe He

1:10:45

believes it yeah, that

1:10:47

doesn't mean that it exists, but

1:10:50

I don't think he's a liar I don't think

1:10:52

he's a liar either But I don't know because

1:10:54

some people are really good at that shit again

1:10:56

I'm just going off of like the

1:10:58

vibe just the vibe that I got yeah But

1:11:00

the vibe is hard because he wanted to believe

1:11:02

in yourself like I remember at the dinner. He's

1:11:04

like listen I'm not here to prove it. I

1:11:06

don't even need to do I don't like doing

1:11:08

this it hurts my life He said all the

1:11:10

maybe the right things, but he didn't come across

1:11:13

as so charismatic like usually people are really good

1:11:15

at lying Are very charismatic? Hopefully

1:11:17

lie about other stuff, too Yeah,

1:11:19

I'm adding know enough about him to say but

1:11:21

like he didn't have the charisma of someone that

1:11:23

could like trick and manipulate me He

1:11:26

came across as pretty authentic and almost kind of

1:11:28

rattled by the whole experience like it was almost

1:11:30

felt traumatic when he was talking about Yeah, it

1:11:32

did And he told us something

1:11:34

too that made a lot more sense because one of

1:11:37

the things that he's criticized about Is

1:11:39

his education background he said he went to MIT and

1:11:41

then there's no record of him at MIT Yeah He's

1:11:44

like yeah because there wasn't a record of me at

1:11:46

MIT because I was involved in the program Yeah,

1:11:52

but when you hear what they're involved what they

1:11:54

were actually working on you go. Oh, yeah, well,

1:11:56

that's you're not even supposed

1:11:58

to do that so I would imagine

1:12:00

that if you're gonna get educated in that it's

1:12:03

not important that you get a degree that shows

1:12:05

that you Learned it from these people. Yeah, what's

1:12:07

important is you get the information that you need

1:12:09

in order to implement this plan Yeah, which was

1:12:11

wild and you hear that but the thing about

1:12:13

it is the other things they

1:12:15

tried to disprove him on He has shown that it

1:12:17

was accurate one of them that he worked at Los

1:12:19

Alamos labs, right? So they said that he never worked

1:12:22

there, but he did work there. Yeah, he did work

1:12:24

there He's on the employee roster. Yeah, so not only

1:12:26

that he had an inch Intimate

1:12:28

knowledge of the building when George Knapp went

1:12:30

with him to Los Alamos labs He knew

1:12:32

where everything was he knew the security guards.

1:12:35

He knew the system who's George Knapp George

1:12:37

Knapp is an investigative reporter that broke the

1:12:39

story in 1989

1:12:43

and he's been on it ever since and he also does a

1:12:45

podcast with Jeremy Corbell Yeah, I know it's all

1:12:47

about this this phenomenon and George Knapp

1:12:49

is one of the best journalists That's ever covered

1:12:51

it because he's like covered it from the beginning

1:12:53

and he will tell you what he knows what

1:12:55

he doesn't know And he's not a bullshitter in

1:12:57

any way shape or form. He's a hard-nosed Facts-based

1:13:00

journalist. Yeah, who was the first guy to

1:13:02

talk to Lazar and Lazar talked to him

1:13:05

because he thought they were gonna kill him

1:13:08

Because he had started bringing

1:13:10

people to watch the test flights because he

1:13:12

got fired He got released and the reason

1:13:14

why he got released is when you're on

1:13:16

top secret clearance When you're working for the

1:13:19

government and they fly you to area 51

1:13:21

and you're doing fucking work on spaceships You're

1:13:24

not allowed to tell anybody including your wife. Yeah, so he

1:13:26

got a phone call like 11 p.m I

1:13:29

got to go to work and he would leave

1:13:31

and the wife was like this motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah.

1:13:33

Yeah She starts having an affair. So she starts

1:13:35

having a fair back Exactly.

1:13:37

So she starts having an affair and she starts

1:13:39

having an affair and all their phones are tapped,

1:13:42

of course But she doesn't know their

1:13:44

phones are tapped because she doesn't know what he's doing Why

1:13:46

would she because she he can't tell her what he's doing

1:13:49

So she starts fucking this guy and

1:13:51

then they're worried that he's gonna be

1:13:53

in a situation of emotional turmoil Share

1:13:56

the information in fact, so they don't share the

1:13:58

information with him. They just release him.

1:14:00

He's now fired. So he's

1:14:03

going back to his friends like I'm

1:14:05

working on fucking UFOs. They have real

1:14:07

UFOs. They test them every Wednesday. So

1:14:09

he takes people out to Area 51

1:14:11

to an area that's restricted now. But

1:14:13

back then before the Obama administration came

1:14:15

along, in the Obama administration they expand

1:14:17

the boundaries of Area 51. It was

1:14:19

the first time they admitted Area 51

1:14:21

even existed. So they had expanded

1:14:24

because too many people were getting close enough

1:14:26

to film things. So these guys went out

1:14:28

there and they filmed these fucking flying saucers

1:14:30

flying around. And they're video this there's

1:14:33

videos of the saucers. There's videos of

1:14:35

these things moving around the desert. So

1:14:37

you can find them. This grainy Area

1:14:39

51 footage. So they're doing these things

1:14:42

or these vehicles are operating away. Conventional

1:14:44

vehicles in 1989 were absolutely incapable of

1:14:46

doing right as far as our understanding.

1:14:48

Right. He gets arrested. They

1:14:50

catch him. What are you doing? And he

1:14:53

says he just spilled the beans. I got

1:14:55

fired. I wanted to let people know that

1:14:57

this is real. Now his life's in danger.

1:15:00

Now he's like they're gonna fucking kill me.

1:15:02

So he contacts George Knapp. He's like I think

1:15:04

that if I just go public with this.

1:15:06

I'll be too famous to be killed. Right. So

1:15:08

initially he does it with his his face

1:15:10

hidden. So the

1:15:13

initial interviews he does with his face hidden.

1:15:15

He's like silhouetted. And then he decides

1:15:17

I have to go public with all this.

1:15:19

So he does these interviews. He's explaining everything.

1:15:22

He draws diagrams. He explains this element that

1:15:24

was only theoretical at that point. It was

1:15:26

element 115. Yeah. They

1:15:28

didn't find it in proof of it

1:15:30

until they used a particle collider in

1:15:32

like the 2000s. I don't want to

1:15:34

say. Switzerland or whatever. Yeah. I want

1:15:36

to say like 2013-ish. Okay. So

1:15:39

this is 1989. Wow. This is Bob Lazar in 1989. Wow. And this is him explaining all

1:15:49

of the different stuff that he had to do

1:15:51

there where it is. And by the way at

1:15:54

this point in time this was all just legend.

1:15:56

No one knew if Area 51 was real. these

1:16:00

hangers. So these are these crafts

1:16:02

that he brought people out to

1:16:04

film. He's like these things, they

1:16:07

move silently, they move with a

1:16:09

gravity propulsion system that's operating off

1:16:11

of this element, element 115. And

1:16:13

this element 115,

1:16:16

when hit with radioactive

1:16:18

waves, it becomes this

1:16:20

thing that can manipulate gravity with

1:16:22

this generator that is in the

1:16:24

center of these ships. They don't

1:16:26

have any controls, everything is controlled

1:16:29

like the human being the

1:16:31

alien creature interfaces

1:16:33

with this machine

1:16:36

biologically or through some sort of mirror

1:16:38

link. They might not even be human

1:16:40

at that point. They might be like

1:16:42

well we're going to be. Some sort

1:16:44

of a combination of artificial intelligence and

1:16:46

biology or strictly artificial intelligence

1:16:48

at this point. And these things

1:16:50

interact with this craft and that's

1:16:52

how it moves. There's no like

1:16:54

buttons you switch like alien and

1:16:56

fucking joysticks like the Millennium

1:16:58

Falcon. There's none of that shit. It's all

1:17:01

done with the creature. So

1:17:03

he gets in this thing. First of all he

1:17:05

realizes there's no seams. It doesn't make any sense.

1:17:07

Well now we know what 3D printing is. Now

1:17:10

you know we can make a thing with no

1:17:12

seams. But back then they don't know what the

1:17:14

fuck it is. And he realized like right

1:17:16

away like this is not ours.

1:17:18

When he first saw it he thought oh now

1:17:20

I know what all this UFO bullshit is about.

1:17:23

We have them. It's ours. We're working on this.

1:17:25

That makes sense. And they actually had an American

1:17:27

flag sticker on one of them. They put an

1:17:29

American flag sticker on one of the UFOs. Which

1:17:32

is fun. Yeah. It's fun. You want other people

1:17:34

to think that's ours. Yeah. But then he gets

1:17:36

in and he realizes it's designed for something that's

1:17:38

three feet tall. There's no

1:17:41

seams. There's no controls. And

1:17:43

it has this reactor in

1:17:45

the center of it that defies

1:17:47

anything we have any current understanding

1:17:50

of. In

1:17:52

terms of like what we believe

1:17:54

is possible for propulsion systems this

1:17:56

is something completely alien. And it

1:17:58

involves a stable element. that

1:18:00

is only theoretical at this point. They don't

1:18:02

even know it exists and they have a

1:18:04

triangle, like a form

1:18:07

of this stuff that's in the center

1:18:09

of this. See if you

1:18:11

could find the video where he's describing the

1:18:14

gravity generator. But the elements, that

1:18:16

triangle thing you're talking about, is

1:18:18

that the engine or is that

1:18:20

essentially the gasoline? That's the fuel.

1:18:22

This thing when bombarded

1:18:25

with radiation produces this, I'm

1:18:27

obviously butchering this, but produces

1:18:30

this, let's see how he explains it. Put

1:18:32

the headphones on. Powering the gravity amplifiers.

1:18:36

Do it from the beginning. Here we go. So it's

1:18:38

the reactor here, powering the

1:18:40

gravity amplifiers. Gravity

1:18:42

amplifiers output goes into

1:18:44

the gravity emitters at the bottom

1:18:48

and the resulting gravity beam

1:18:50

or anti-gravity wave can be pretty much

1:18:52

put anywhere you want to. Now I

1:18:54

had access and was permitted to view

1:18:57

and look at the operation of this

1:19:00

main level with the gravity amplifiers and

1:19:03

the level below the gravity

1:19:05

emitters. People call

1:19:08

these large black rectangular areas on

1:19:10

the top portholes. I believe they

1:19:12

were some planar sensor

1:19:14

array that just

1:19:16

took in information from the surrounding

1:19:18

area, whether it be patterns of

1:19:20

stars or what have

1:19:23

you. So we got the shape

1:19:25

right. Like

1:19:27

the sci-fi people got the shape right. Yeah,

1:19:29

well they knew about it a long time

1:19:31

ago. Kenneth Arnold saw Flying Saucers in the

1:19:33

1950s. He was a pilot. It was like

1:19:35

one of the first, see if

1:19:37

you can see the Kenneth Arnold sightings. It's

1:19:39

one of the first reputable disclosures.

1:19:44

It was an American fighter pilot. Right.

1:19:46

And he's seeing these things and he's describing

1:19:48

them as like Flying Saucers skipping and all

1:19:50

of them they started all happening. That's

1:19:53

what he said he saw. They

1:19:55

started seeing these things right after

1:19:57

the bombs dropped. That's when

1:19:59

everything's... I really popping off in this country

1:20:01

and that's why the rooms in my club

1:20:03

are named fat man and little boy They're

1:20:06

named after the atomic bombs because

1:20:08

that's what started the whole

1:20:10

UFO invasion Aliens see

1:20:12

this. They're like what are they doing? What are they

1:20:14

doing down there? We got to go check them out

1:20:16

I think that kind of checks out. I mean, that's

1:20:19

what I would do Yeah, if I

1:20:21

was from another planet and I realized

1:20:23

oh these territorial primates have just developed

1:20:25

nuclear weapons And they're

1:20:27

dropping them out of propeller planes on

1:20:29

cities Yo, we got to check

1:20:31

this out. We got to investigate these people are going look

1:20:33

for our safety because they could come for us If they

1:20:36

have a hundred percent What if they've developed the ability to

1:20:38

traverse the cosmos? Oh, that's funny and then they see that

1:20:40

we're just dropping them on each other and they're

1:20:42

like, they'll be fun Depending

1:20:47

on who you listen to see what

1:20:50

one of the craziest things that was our talked about

1:20:53

Was that what human beings are and what

1:20:55

this planet is is essentially a farm for

1:20:58

souls and That there's

1:21:00

some need for the the

1:21:02

essence of a life form

1:21:04

a soul Now

1:21:06

if you've created artificial intelligence

1:21:09

imagine if

1:21:11

there's one hurdle that cannot be

1:21:13

bypassed and That

1:21:16

hurdle is a soul and that

1:21:18

it's actually a real thing and it's

1:21:20

a it's a real It's

1:21:22

not just an energy. It's it's a

1:21:24

type of matter. It's

1:21:27

something it's something legitimate that

1:21:29

creates an individual thing a

1:21:31

life form and These

1:21:34

creatures maybe they need souls. So AI

1:21:36

is not gonna be sufficient I

1:21:39

don't know but this is the weirdest thing

1:21:41

that he talked about he said that we're

1:21:43

essentially a farm for souls But but what

1:21:45

does that mean? Like what do we what

1:21:48

do they need souls for? Yeah, but imagine

1:21:50

if like there is like this process of

1:21:52

existence, right? So you have single-celled organisms that

1:21:54

eventually become more advanced to become predator and

1:21:56

prey and then you have this

1:21:59

one intelligent dominant form that

1:22:01

starts figuring out tools and that's the

1:22:03

primates and Over time the

1:22:05

primates evolve and the primates get to

1:22:07

the point where they're started using machines

1:22:10

and internal combustion engines They're

1:22:12

using propulsion. They're using all these different

1:22:14

things that figuring out flight Then they're

1:22:16

figuring out atomic energy and weapons and

1:22:19

there's this transition that will continue And

1:22:22

that that transition will go into more

1:22:24

and more advanced technology if they don't

1:22:26

blow themselves up Mmm So

1:22:29

if what our natural evolution is is

1:22:31

to go from being Australia

1:22:33

pithy gets to go from being you

1:22:35

know The cousin of the chimpanzee to

1:22:37

being what we are today to being

1:22:39

what we will be in the future

1:22:41

I think what we will be in the future

1:22:44

is probably them when you see these

1:22:46

aliens of these giant heads There's little spindly

1:22:48

bodies and no genitals. We seem like we're

1:22:50

on that path Like that seems

1:22:52

like a natural it doesn't seem like

1:22:54

if Bigfoot was flying UFOs Like why

1:22:56

are we Bigfoot again? I thought we

1:22:58

passed that I thought we evolved I

1:23:01

don't need a muscle Harry brute. Yeah,

1:23:03

and we became this thing. That's like

1:23:05

gentle and Telepathic and

1:23:07

it doesn't use any muscular force.

1:23:09

Everything is done through telekinesis the

1:23:12

Communication is telepathic the communication with

1:23:15

the craft is telepathic everything

1:23:17

is done through this way of integration

1:23:20

with technology because they become Physically

1:23:23

integrated they might not even be

1:23:25

biological anymore, but they might still

1:23:27

need souls Soul might

1:23:30

be a force. It might be

1:23:32

a thing that's necessary for the

1:23:34

cultivation of Another version of

1:23:36

us on another planet if this is

1:23:38

a process just like a garden Right

1:23:41

where you have the you have

1:23:43

the soil you till the soil you fertilize

1:23:45

it you plant the seeds you water it

1:23:47

They grow the crops grow and then you

1:23:49

harvest them if this is a process That

1:23:53

that and that's what human beings are just

1:23:55

like you have a fucking elk farm in

1:23:57

New Zealand And that's how you get tender

1:23:59

loins process. Like you have to

1:24:01

do all these things to get this result.

1:24:04

What if we're a farm for souls? But

1:24:07

who's farming us? Advanced life forms.

1:24:09

So they need our souls for something. It's an

1:24:11

energy source for them in some way. It sounds

1:24:13

so ridiculous. No, no, no. But it sounds ridiculous

1:24:15

even as I'm saying it and as you're repeating

1:24:17

it. Like they need us for souls. It sounds

1:24:19

like some L. Ron Hubbard science fiction. But no,

1:24:22

but to me that makes sense why they would

1:24:24

be concerned about the nuclear bombs is because if

1:24:26

we destroy ourselves they no longer have

1:24:28

these farms. We kill a farm. Exactly. Yeah, we kill

1:24:30

the farm. Right now the farm's doing great. There's more

1:24:32

people than ever. That's what we like.

1:24:34

As long as we don't have a massive depopulation

1:24:36

event like a nuclear war. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that

1:24:38

makes sense that it would, you know, catch their

1:24:40

attention. They'd come in, they'd be like, yeah, yeah,

1:24:42

we got to kind of shut this thing down.

1:24:44

If we are really the product of accelerated evolution,

1:24:46

which is much specialized. What

1:24:49

does that mean? We're the product of accelerated

1:24:51

evolution. Which is like, look, we

1:24:54

are very, very, very, very, very different

1:24:56

from everything else on this planet. By

1:24:58

a long stretch. Not by a couple

1:25:00

of years, by a long stretch. Yeah,

1:25:02

yeah. You know, by every other primate,

1:25:04

the best they can do is use

1:25:06

a stick to get termites. Yeah. You

1:25:08

know, oh, well, one thing is orangutan

1:25:10

spearfish. Oh, they're making

1:25:12

weapons. They figured out how to spearfish and

1:25:15

they learned it from us, apparently. Yeah. But

1:25:17

they can do that. Orangutans use tools. But

1:25:19

isn't there a theory that now they're at

1:25:21

a different level in the evolutionary chart? Yeah.

1:25:23

Yeah. The current understanding is that they have

1:25:26

begun to stonage. Yeah. Yeah. Kind

1:25:28

of cool to see it happen. It's crazy

1:25:30

to see it happen. So have you ever

1:25:32

seen the orangutan spearfish? No, no. You guys

1:25:34

see this picture? Yeah. Jamie pull up. It's

1:25:36

bananas. This orangutan is stabbing fish while hanging

1:25:38

from a tree like this. He's like stabbing

1:25:40

fish with one arm. Yeah. Yeah.

1:25:42

They figured out how to use tools. So if, oh,

1:25:45

this is actually interesting. So if

1:25:47

we're watching them in their stonage,

1:25:49

it's completely plausible that some other

1:25:51

life form is watching us in

1:25:54

our advanced state of evolution. Exactly. Look at that,

1:25:56

dude. Get The fuck out of

1:25:58

here. Isn't that wild? Homeboy Spearfish. Wang

1:26:00

I was feeding one arm. While.

1:26:04

I'm. A As nuts man. That's.

1:26:06

Fucking Nuts. To

1:26:09

observe local fishermen do it and he figured out a

1:26:11

dude himself. Pretty. Fucking Crazy.

1:26:14

My. Brain. Dope.

1:26:16

He's probably the king pimp have all of

1:26:18

the right to hundred percent days due to

1:26:20

figured it out. The. Probably

1:26:22

all at worlds. Guess a wizard? He

1:26:24

gets fish. Like.

1:26:27

I was a video of it. I

1:26:30

was hoping there was this. our

1:26:32

holy shit Fucking crazy Crazy. So.

1:26:35

I'll to believe that I was granted

1:26:37

the that things evolve. If you left

1:26:39

them alone like that spear fishing for

1:26:42

five hundred thousand years on alien years,

1:26:44

who knows what, they probably look like

1:26:46

a mess. Yeah, a bit of it.

1:26:49

Eventually they'll have a caveman. Depending upon

1:26:51

what is causing this advancement and how

1:26:53

quickly to. that's the mushroom question. So

1:26:56

that's good. Stoned Ape Syria, Terence Mckenna

1:26:58

believe that it had a lot to

1:27:00

do with the consumption of still Saab

1:27:03

and mushroom. Yes, now is the suicide.

1:27:05

And mushrooms? What? it allows you to.

1:27:08

Yeah. The solve problems in and outside

1:27:10

of box way like what kind of

1:27:12

the companies and language to gloss earlier

1:27:14

like what is a gloss allele as

1:27:16

like you start associating sounds with let

1:27:18

with with objects and language of formulation

1:27:21

of language than so saddam would aid

1:27:23

Nadja aiding creativity aid in visual acuity.

1:27:25

They've done studies where they showed that

1:27:27

people under doses of still a sigh

1:27:29

been I detect a edges quicker so

1:27:32

like if you have to lines that

1:27:34

are moving out that a parallel lines

1:27:36

here if you deviate one even. Slightly

1:27:38

people on so saab and notice it quicker

1:27:40

than people that aren't on so simon Okay

1:27:42

so it increases visual acuity. It makes people

1:27:44

horny are so it makes you will more

1:27:46

likely to breed and makes you better hunter

1:27:49

because it increases your visual acuity. Ask your

1:27:51

understanding a space probably are more tuned in

1:27:53

a more sensitive to saying okay. You.

1:27:55

Know there's a lot of photo out there, micro dose and

1:27:57

on mushrooms and as help some do a lot of things.

1:28:00

No borders. Could AI be

1:28:03

this next ... Could AI

1:28:06

for us be what mushrooms

1:28:08

were for these primates? But

1:28:10

times a billion. Exactly. Yeah.

1:28:13

So that's where you see that next leap.

1:28:15

So mushrooms come around, the apes start using

1:28:18

tools, do whatever they want, and then now

1:28:20

you accelerate evolution. Well, the mushrooms probably are

1:28:22

the seed for artificial intelligence because the mushrooms

1:28:24

give you the creativity to start doing wild

1:28:26

things in the first place, which always leads

1:28:28

to technology, which leads to a life form.

1:28:30

And now with AI, you have that with

1:28:33

exponential growth. Exactly. So they're solving millions

1:28:35

and trillions of problems in a minute. Not only

1:28:37

that, they can make a better version of themselves.

1:28:40

Once they become sentient, then they become God

1:28:42

because they make better versions of themselves with

1:28:44

no end in sight. So

1:28:47

if you have an artificial intelligence

1:28:49

that's as intelligent as every

1:28:52

human being on Earth combined, which is essentially

1:28:54

what they think is going to happen. And

1:28:57

you get that as all the knowledge of all

1:28:59

human beings, then it's going to find the flaws

1:29:01

in all of our methods. And then it's going

1:29:03

to be using quantum computing. So it's

1:29:05

going to have the type of computing

1:29:07

power that's, who knows, a

1:29:09

million, a hundred million times what we

1:29:11

have today. And then it's going to

1:29:13

develop better versions of quantum computing. It's

1:29:15

going to develop better methods of extracting

1:29:17

energy from all sorts of different resources.

1:29:19

It's not going to need lithium ion.

1:29:22

The graph goes vertical. It just goes

1:29:24

straight up and it never stops. It's

1:29:27

going to harness the very power of

1:29:29

the universe itself. It literally can become

1:29:31

a God. If you just keep going,

1:29:34

if artificial intelligence is allowed to keep

1:29:36

exponentially growing and it gets past being

1:29:38

far more intelligent, how many more steps is

1:29:41

it until it's Dr. Manhattan? Is

1:29:43

it a week? Is it a month? Is

1:29:45

it a year? Whatever it is, it's going there.

1:29:48

It's going to get to a point where it

1:29:50

can time travel. It's going to get to a

1:29:52

point where it can show up on other planets

1:29:54

instantaneously. It's going to get to a point where

1:29:56

it can harness All the

1:29:58

available power. in the universe itself and

1:30:00

use it and manipulated and figure out

1:30:03

how to create it. It might be

1:30:05

able to create new universes. What

1:30:08

is you know if it if a

1:30:10

universe is created if a big bang

1:30:13

exists if there is a singular at

1:30:15

a very moment as awkward as some

1:30:17

thing as infinitely why wouldn't it be

1:30:20

able to create the exact same thing?

1:30:22

Why wouldn't it be if done go

1:30:24

to be created if it is a

1:30:27

things if it is it's saying that's

1:30:29

dependent upon the forces of the universe

1:30:31

itself. Would in a deep understanding of

1:30:33

those forces under save us forces in

1:30:36

on quantum level the subatomic level at

1:30:38

everything. Looked at the subatomic level.

1:30:40

Everything is magic, right? You know? particles

1:30:42

and superposition are both moving and stable

1:30:44

at the same time. Using the laws

1:30:47

of physics don't apply. They because I'm

1:30:49

Alec Raw becomes Match. Got a guy?

1:30:51

got most of atoms are empty space.

1:30:53

We don't even understand what the fuck

1:30:55

is going on. We know that get

1:30:58

particles communicate instantaneously with other particles that

1:31:00

are nowhere near that miles away their

1:31:02

two places. At the same time, they're

1:31:04

intertwined. Yeah, some strange way that we

1:31:06

don't understand if something becomes. So advanced

1:31:09

that is as control over

1:31:11

those forces and it utilizes

1:31:13

all of those forces. And

1:31:17

it literally a has a complete

1:31:19

understanding of everything that's happening at

1:31:21

every given time in the entire

1:31:23

universe is So this could potentially

1:31:26

happen in our lifetime, right? Let's

1:31:28

say, if it doesn't, it's going

1:31:30

happen in our kids lifetime. Supported

1:31:32

make it. But think about it

1:31:34

if we, if it happens in

1:31:36

our lifetime, our generation. Will.

1:31:39

Have lived before the internet. The.

1:31:42

Internet. And singularity.

1:31:45

Yeah. The Singularity. What a

1:31:47

crazy twenty forty five is would

1:31:49

Kurzweil believes. Imagine we lived through

1:31:51

all of that mess. We lived through the

1:31:53

time where. I. Couldn't get in

1:31:56

touch with you unless you were home

1:31:58

wearing your phone air. and

1:32:00

we could also live in a time where i

1:32:02

could instantaneously the actor fucking house

1:32:04

yeah in the same life yet

1:32:08

we're probably the civilization this

1:32:11

our time period that's experienced the

1:32:13

most radical change other

1:32:15

than like obviously wars nuclear

1:32:18

bombs things like that that hit your

1:32:20

put as pretty radical change but globally

1:32:22

the most radical change in terms of

1:32:24

how the culture communicates with itself with

1:32:27

the access to information what's true and

1:32:29

what's not true is that

1:32:31

there's never been a time like that who's leading

1:32:34

the air research in the world right now well

1:32:36

there's quite a few different companies are competing is

1:32:38

the google a i i don't shut down united

1:32:41

states supposedly is in

1:32:43

the lead i know it well there i'm out

1:32:45

in they they'll be the first to hit that

1:32:47

switch why don't they just don't know that

1:32:49

you know you have a book that is the

1:32:51

advantage of not giving a fuck not giving a

1:32:53

fuck and having a dictatorship yeah you know with

1:32:55

a singular goal we don't have to add also

1:32:57

a country like you have to respect

1:33:00

the history of china china has

1:33:02

thrived economically for four thousand years

1:33:04

yet i kept it all together

1:33:07

china has of temple

1:33:09

of with the first emperor yeah where

1:33:11

they are afraid to enter it because

1:33:14

apparently he booby trapped it with

1:33:16

so much mercury that you open

1:33:18

the doors it'll just flood everyone

1:33:21

with mercury he created some crazy

1:33:23

booby trap and all the ground

1:33:25

around that area tests

1:33:27

very high in levels of mercury so

1:33:30

they think some of it is

1:33:32

like seeping into the ground so

1:33:34

they think it's true so the

1:33:36

guy that had the terracotta statues

1:33:38

that are guarding their underwater those

1:33:41

all the ground was all buried

1:33:43

so he had this temple that's

1:33:45

underground that is probably filled with

1:33:47

who knows how many priceless artifacts

1:33:49

and people are afraid to open

1:33:51

it this is the first emperor of

1:33:53

china google the first emperor of china's i

1:33:56

was trying to find those well they

1:33:58

they can't open The temple

1:34:01

they want to go in and see it,

1:34:03

but they're afraid it's booby-trapped with mercury Like

1:34:06

how much fucking mercury would you have to have

1:34:08

and how long ago are we talking about like?

1:34:12

What year was it? Oh 94 BC? This

1:34:17

is the booby-trap legend circa 94 BC I

1:34:20

don't know how to say his name Sima

1:34:22

Quan Wrote a clear and

1:34:24

illuminated description of what lies beneath the

1:34:27

51.3 meter high mound

1:34:29

in his famous work the

1:34:32

the Shijit In

1:34:34

the ninth month the first Emperor was buried at

1:34:36

Mount Lee When the first

1:34:38

Emperor had just come to the throne excavations and

1:34:41

building work had taken place at Mount Lee But

1:34:43

when he unified all under heaven convicts to

1:34:45

the number of more than 700,000

1:34:49

were sent there from all over the

1:34:51

Empire They dug through the three springs

1:34:53

and poured down molten bronze to make

1:34:56

the outer coffin and replicates of palaces

1:34:58

pavilions all the various officials and Wonderful

1:35:00

vessels and other rare objects were brought

1:35:02

up to the tomb which was then

1:35:05

filled with them Craftsmen

1:35:07

were ordered to make crossbows and arrows

1:35:09

which would operate Automatically so

1:35:11

that anyone who approached what had

1:35:13

been excavated was immediately shot Quick

1:35:15

silver mercury was used to represent

1:35:18

the various waterways the Yangtze and

1:35:20

yellow rivers and the Great Sea

1:35:23

Be made by some mechanisms to flow

1:35:25

into each other and above were arranged

1:35:27

the heavenly Constellations and a blow and

1:35:29

below was the layout of the land

1:35:31

candles were made out of whale fat

1:35:34

Alternative literal translations mermaid ointment

1:35:36

Wow or man fish oil. What

1:35:38

the fuck does that mean? Human

1:35:41

oil probably from burned

1:35:43

people's fat For it was

1:35:45

reckoned that it would be a long time

1:35:47

before they were extinguished The second

1:35:49

generation said it would

1:35:51

not be right that any of the previous emperors

1:35:53

concubines should emerge from this place Unless

1:35:56

She has a son. They were all ordered to

1:35:58

accompany him to death. And those

1:36:00

who died were extremely numerous. After the

1:36:02

burleigh had taken place, someone mention the

1:36:04

fact that the workers and crafts new

1:36:06

constructed the mechanists mechanical devices would know

1:36:08

about all the buried treasures and the

1:36:10

importance of the treasures would immediately be

1:36:13

disclosed. Consequently, when the great occasion was

1:36:15

finished and after the treasures had been

1:36:17

hidden away, the main entrance way to

1:36:19

the tomb was shut off and the

1:36:21

outer gates lowered to the all the

1:36:23

workers and crass and who had buried

1:36:25

treasure was shot in. And

1:36:27

there were none who came out again. And.

1:36:29

The vegetation trees were planted to make it

1:36:32

look like a hill. So. They

1:36:34

killed. Seven. Hundred thousand workers.

1:36:37

As our there's I. Always

1:36:40

us we find the source alleges we

1:36:42

know today but seem a kwan wrote

1:36:45

his description on twenty three years after

1:36:47

the death of See Long. Could is

1:36:49

fantasy like account of the mermaid ointment

1:36:52

probably will. oil flowing rivers of mercury,

1:36:54

seven hundred thousand labor's crossbow, booby traps

1:36:56

and buried alive workers be credible or

1:36:59

is is easy just writing for effect.

1:37:01

Can we trust said descriptions? says.

1:37:05

That one of the camps the store

1:37:07

and celebrates trustworthiness a seem acquired by

1:37:10

emphasizing stream care with simic want gathered

1:37:12

and wade available evidence an attempt to

1:37:14

convey an objective portrait of the Chinese

1:37:16

past. Other champs have

1:37:18

more skeptical stress in there were

1:37:20

intensely personal motivations of prompted see

1:37:22

me qualms. As I said. My

1:37:25

say right? see Mcqueen Queen Decision

1:37:27

to complete masterwork of history begun

1:37:30

by his father. The more suspicious

1:37:32

camp accuses Kwan of exaggerating his

1:37:34

accounts by being too much of

1:37:37

a lyrical romanticism to religious to

1:37:39

convey an accurate depiction of history.

1:37:41

But either way they do. They

1:37:44

found mercury all around that area

1:37:46

and they they still have not

1:37:48

opened it. Though. They're still worry

1:37:51

this like thousands of years less. I

1:37:53

never been fractured. Like.

1:37:55

In the way to Europe is fractured you know

1:37:57

you said his. add the or even the Roman.

1:38:00

Empire had this large swath

1:38:02

of land in control, and

1:38:04

then it's been broken up.

1:38:06

China seems like this massive land mass with

1:38:08

all these people for a very long period

1:38:11

of time. How do you maintain

1:38:13

that? That's the way they do it. It's

1:38:16

kind of impressive. It's unbelievably impressive. It's very

1:38:18

impressive. It's very impressive that they've been around

1:38:20

for 4,000 years and that they've

1:38:22

done this. And what is

1:38:24

maintaining that? Power. But