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Seven Brides for Seven Brothers Part 1: Cheesy Pretzel Bites and Chauvinism

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers Part 1: Cheesy Pretzel Bites and Chauvinism

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Seven Brides for Seven Brothers Part 1: Cheesy Pretzel Bites and Chauvinism

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers Part 1: Cheesy Pretzel Bites and Chauvinism

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers Part 1: Cheesy Pretzel Bites and Chauvinism

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers Part 1: Cheesy Pretzel Bites and Chauvinism

Tuesday, 13th June 2023
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0:01

But her form is particularly bad and

0:03

he's like Mwah , mwah , mwah . And

0:06

yeah , yeah , yeah , Huppa-da

0:09

, huppa-da , huppa-da , Woo-ga .

0:39

Welcome plotters , My name is Naomi McQuade

0:42

, i'm Lydia Malcolm And .

0:43

I'm Jen McQuade And you know what movie

0:46

we're doing because you clicked on the thing . You

0:49

, wonderful , wonderful person .

0:52

Thank you so much for joining us .

0:54

Seven Brads for Seven Brothers , which

0:56

is a very fast and furious title .

0:59

Yeah , it seems like the

1:01

S's should be replaced with 7's

1:03

or something .

1:04

Yes , There's a

1:06

movie called Seven , right , with the numbers

1:08

replaced Yeah .

1:10

Yeah , so just like we need to

1:12

take that movie and mush it

1:14

into this one .

1:15

And the word for should be the

1:17

number four .

1:18

Yeah , Oh man .

1:21

Yeah So .

1:24

This was Maddie's pick And

1:27

I don't hate it . I mean , this is

1:29

a movie that I came to

1:31

because of the King County Library

1:33

system Yeah , because this was back

1:35

when I had a library card And I'm like I'm looking

1:38

for anything that's going to be fun And I was like seven

1:40

brides for seven brothers . I guess this

1:42

is going to be fun . And

1:44

was it Like

1:46

I'm trying to remember how I

1:49

felt about this movie as a teenager and

1:51

have a note Oh

1:53

, there we go . Yeah , like in the third

1:56

act , i have a note that talks about

1:58

like this movie explains some things

2:00

.

2:01

Really Well . I came to this movie

2:03

by way of Madeline 25

2:06

, 20, . Like how

2:09

long ago was 1998 ?

2:12

That would have been like 25

2:14

years .

2:15

Yeah . So when Sean

2:17

from Sean Fax went away to college

2:20

, I started hanging out

2:22

with Madeline a lot And

2:24

she's like , oh , she had all these VHSs , because

2:27

that's how old I am , applauders . And

2:29

she was like , oh , I got a movie you've got to

2:31

see . So , in her room

2:34

, laying on her bed eating cheesy pretzel

2:36

bites , which are one of my favorite vices

2:39

, we just watched

2:41

it And unironically loved

2:43

it . It was so

2:47

long ago And I've changed so much

2:49

, So watching it this time was like how

2:53

was I taking this in as a teenager ? I

2:56

don't , I honestly do not know .

2:58

So what about me ?

3:00

Yeah , Jen , what about you ?

3:02

Today was how many

3:04

days old I was when

3:06

I first watched this movie .

3:10

Applauders . We forgot the SD card

3:12

at our place coming over to

3:14

record with Lydia And so we

3:17

just started the movie . Jen's like I'm going to

3:19

miss like 20 minutes , but I don't want to make it the recording

3:21

take too long And Lydia and I were both like no , no , no

3:24

, no , we'll wait . Just

3:26

watching you taking the movie for

3:28

the first time was a delight .

3:30

Yes , I probably

3:32

. I have

3:34

some small

3:37

remembrance of this , probably

3:39

being on the background at

3:42

my grandmother's house because she watches

3:44

musicals all

3:46

the time , so but

3:48

honestly , i

3:51

, from like , until

3:53

up to possibly when

3:56

Madeline announced that this was the movie we

3:58

were going to see , i thought this was a

4:01

period piece like in

4:04

some sort of King and I situation or

4:07

like more like a British period

4:09

piece . Oh , it's

4:12

not that idea of the plot

4:14

And I thought it was like

4:17

Mr Darcy and his friends , gentlemen

4:19

, friends .

4:21

I have to go and find some information

4:23

. Yeah

4:26

, nope .

4:27

Nope .

4:28

Did you ? we've never done a period

4:31

piece .

4:34

Once I saw . When I saw

4:36

the photos that Madeline sent

4:38

us so we could guess what movie

4:40

it was , i thought

4:42

it was probably the

4:45

music man or something

4:49

.

4:49

Hello Dolly .

4:50

Yeah , guys and dolls . No

4:53

no , it is not one of those things

4:55

.

4:56

Oh , applauters , we are joined again today by

4:58

Wonder Boy , who may be clink , clunking

5:01

around , so if you hear a thud or

5:03

we stop and talk about turtles . that's

5:08

why .

5:09

And we may just kind of let

5:12

go and be a little bit more relaxed

5:14

with this episode anyway

5:16

, because we

5:18

are Applauters , we are

5:20

going on a

5:23

hiatus for

5:25

most likely six months

5:27

. So if you are

5:29

an official Applauter

5:32

, paying us whatever amount

5:34

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5:36

are the top up plotter , for

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5:45

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5:55

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Any other

6:20

things we want to mention on the

6:22

the hiatus side .

6:24

Thank you for letting us take time

6:26

off . Life just kind of

6:28

gets a little bit crazy . So , and

6:31

you know we , we

6:33

will probably see you fully

6:35

in next year and that's the end of the

6:37

episode .

6:38

So we'll see you in like six

6:40

months . Get a tan .

6:47

Yeah , you got some sobbing women

6:49

over here that we have to Take

6:52

a break , but I think it's it's . I

6:55

think we all started this

6:57

podcast with the With

6:59

the agreement that if , for any reason

7:02

, something came up and we weren't able

7:04

to just continue if

7:06

it was like a Just even

7:08

a personal reason , one

7:11

of us couldn't do it anymore that we

7:13

would have no hard feelings

7:16

, that we would just This

7:18

is for fun anyway , and

7:21

we just move on and keep

7:23

you informed . So

7:26

We have talked

7:29

about how we came to this movie .

7:31

Mm-hmm . So you know what I'm in the

7:33

mood for what are you in the mood

7:35

for ? push . Go ahead , push my

7:37

buttons .

7:42

So satisfying to hear your own voice like

7:44

that .

7:48

Well , most actually , i

7:50

think all of this is Production

7:53

or Information

7:55

about some of the actors . So

7:59

I'm probably just gonna like cut this

8:01

in half and we will do

8:03

half the Sean facts right now And then

8:05

we'll just finish up At

8:07

the end of the episode with some Sean

8:10

facts as well . Oh

8:12

, seven brides for seven brothers , 1954

8:16

. What are our guesses on

8:18

the budget of this

8:20

movie ?

8:22

1954 , this was during

8:24

the , the , the heyday of musicals

8:27

back then . So I can't help but

8:29

think that maybe was

8:31

given a bigger budget and

8:33

1954

8:36

I want to say that may have even been like smack

8:38

dab in the middle , so it wasn't like , it wasn't

8:41

like hello dolly , where it

8:43

like cost like An

8:46

extreme amount of money

8:48

and it didn't make nearly as much

8:50

back . So I'm

8:52

gonna go ahead and say that the

8:55

we're just talking budget right now , right .

8:57

Right , okay and probably yeah

8:59

, money for the time .

9:02

And in money for the time . So I , so we're not

9:04

adjusting for inflation , so

9:06

I'm gonna go ahead . I'm

9:08

gonna say 30 million

9:11

. It's a high amount for 1954

9:14

, but But like

9:16

they , i mean this was , this

9:18

was during the heyday of musicals , so that's

9:20

why I think they threw a lot of money at it .

9:23

I , i'm gonna low-ball it . I feel like

9:25

if it costs three million

9:27

I'd be surprised . I I think that it

9:29

probably is lower than that .

9:31

Dang , you're

9:33

so good at this that is not the

9:35

case .

9:36

See any of our previous .

9:39

Two and a half million is the budget . Some

9:42

of this actually was siphoned off

9:44

to the production of Brigadune , which

9:46

the studio felt would be the better film was

9:49

it ? We didn't

9:51

tell you I haven't seen Brigadune either

9:53

.

9:53

We'd have to , we'd have to do Brigadune in order

9:55

to get those numbers man .

9:57

So That was budget

9:59

. What about box office , lydia

10:01

?

10:03

30 million . I

10:06

think it probably 15

10:09

million nine , point four

10:11

million , so it it made its

10:13

money back three times for sure . That's great

10:15

Okay .

10:15

Yeah , alright , so

10:18

Seven brides for seven

10:20

brothers , based on the short story

10:22

the sobbing women by Steven

10:24

Vincent Benet , which was

10:26

based in turn on the ancient Roman

10:29

legend of the rape of

10:31

the Sobbing women

10:33

. I want to . I want to say Sabin

10:36

, and I think it's because of Power

10:38

Rangers .

10:41

Just changes everything about power

10:44

.

10:45

Wait I .

10:47

Want to say Sabin instead of Sabin

10:50

that's what it was The

10:53

Saban women but is the is the

10:55

whole premise is that it's the sobbing

10:57

women like the , the adaptation

11:00

of the rape

11:02

of the Saban women

11:04

from Roman .

11:06

Yeah , but they use both words in the musical

11:08

. Yeah they go back and forth

11:10

between sobbing and Saban .

11:13

I don't understand why . I Mean

11:17

if it's one thing , don't

11:19

make a whole song about how

11:21

it , how it's mispronounced . But

11:25

okay , we don't need to insert

11:28

my opinions on .

11:31

The whole show is us inserting our opinions

11:33

on all the things save

11:35

it for the podcast .

11:37

Oh wait .

11:40

The wood shopping scene . Oh , this is a

11:42

. This is probably the one scene A

11:44

comment here , but I'll . We

11:47

can bring it up later , but the wood chopping scene

11:49

in lonesome pole cat was filmed

11:51

in a single take . Oh wow , and

11:53

I will

11:55

bring in the facts

11:58

about the brothers Here

12:00

, and then I'll bring in the facts about the

12:02

brides at the end . To

12:05

perform the dance numbers and action sequences

12:07

, cory Coryographer

12:09

Michael kid wanted dancers

12:11

to portray all six of Adam Pontepe's

12:14

brothers . Kid said

12:16

that he had to find a way

12:19

to have these backwoods men dance without

12:21

looking ridiculous . I have

12:23

to base it all around activities you would

12:25

accept From such people

12:27

. It couldn't look like ballet and

12:29

it could only have been done by superbly

12:32

trained dancers .

12:35

Oh no , we wanted the manly miss of pirouettes

12:38

. I

12:43

want you to serpentine right while snapping

12:45

. But I what Donna Madonna

12:48

like Madonna , madonna

12:50

.

12:52

Okay , so I think these

12:54

yeah , these are in order

12:57

of birth . Adam , who

12:59

wore the light green shirt , howard

13:02

keel , a professional singer , appeared

13:04

as the eldest of the seven brothers . He also appeared

13:07

as Petruchio

13:09

in the film version of kiss me Kate

13:11

and appeared in leading roles in other musical

13:13

films , including Rosemary and

13:16

showboat .

13:17

Oh , kiss me . Kate is amazing . We

13:19

should watch that together sometime .

13:21

Benjamin orange shirt

13:23

. And I have to say like

13:26

, as far as attractiveness , i think

13:28

Benjamin is probably what does

13:30

it for me .

13:31

I agree , no , adam , before he

13:33

shaves .

13:35

Like the brawny sort of beard

13:38

Yeah .

13:39

I mean , if I'm gonna , i'm gonna shack up with somebody on in

13:41

a flat and all they better have like an accompanying

13:43

beard .

13:44

Okay , before we go any further , i've

13:47

got to know like who

13:49

is our brother , like who

13:51

who's ?

13:52

who is , who is the if , if somebody

13:54

like kidnapped you okay

13:57

, okay , and I thought about this okay

13:59

, i Really

14:01

liked Gideon when I first watched it , like

14:03

I thought he was the cute one , but I also

14:05

always was assigned , like as a child

14:07

, that like the youngest member of a group , so like Joey

14:10

from new kids on the block or Johnny and which

14:12

one's the youngest one , but like the youngest

14:14

one generally , and so like I thought I had to like him

14:16

. but watching it now I'm like , hmm , he looks like Gremlin

14:19

, so Like fine , but

14:21

he's got like this kind of like trickster Irish

14:23

face . He could be a leprechaun They all

14:25

could , but like him specifically a leprechaun

14:28

and so I really do think

14:30

it's Adam .

14:33

Who did the least amount of kidnapping , even

14:35

though it was his idea .

14:36

So All

14:39

of my lines that I kept saying gross

14:42

at in the watching are his yeah

14:44

, that's that's the re

14:46

, that's the real clincher of it .

14:48

Like I have a feminist streak

14:51

, that's I don't know if you've noticed , but

14:53

it's there and the fact

14:55

that , like the fact I have

14:57

a playlist on my phone called boy

14:59

shi , and it's specifically

15:02

because every more often

15:04

than I'd like to admit , i'm like mmm

15:07

.

15:09

Oh , go ahead and degrade me , yeah

15:11

, like .

15:11

What's wrong with me ? like if I thought

15:13

you meant it , i would be like all over you

15:15

, but if you're just like Good

15:19

little lady , it's

15:22

so stupid , i know it's bad .

15:24

Yeah , he may have done the least amount of kidnapping

15:26

, but he's still sort of the Charlie Manson

15:29

of the group .

15:33

And I get it . I'm so sorry

15:35

.

15:36

All right , lydia , uh

15:38

like , for even

15:41

when I was younger , it was always been for me

15:43

Mm-hmm . Yeah , i

15:45

don't , and he's the one who doesn't dance at

15:47

all . Yeah .

15:49

I didn't realize that .

15:50

Yeah , what ?

15:52

Okay , so Frankincense

15:55

nice , that would have been my number

15:57

two , yeah because his name is Frankincense

15:59

. Okay , okay , so Lee , for solely

16:02

for his name , but I don't know , is that the reason

16:04

for you ?

16:05

Oh well , he seemed to be the most , Most

16:07

Potentially

16:09

gay . Maybe , i

16:11

don't know . You see , like when I

16:13

mean he had overly defensive about his name

16:15

.

16:16

He's like why I ought to , and like

16:18

when he raises his wrist to fight there a

16:20

little flippity flabbity . Yeah

16:23

a little swish swish on that so

16:26

Where are

16:28

we ?

16:29

Benjamin ? did we already say bent ? No

16:31

, we didn't say Benjamin . Yet Jeff

16:33

Richards was a former professional

16:35

baseball player who topped out

16:37

at the triple a level of the minor leagues

16:39

. Although obviously athletic

16:41

, he is noticeably in the background

16:44

seated or standing during

16:46

the dance numbers So as to not expose

16:49

his lesser dancing skills

16:51

. Nice Caleb

16:54

. Yellow shirt . Matt Maddox

16:56

, a professional dancer , appeared on

16:58

stage on Broadway and also danced in many

17:00

Hollywood musical films . His Singing

17:03

voice for the film was dubbed by

17:05

a person named Bill Lee . Daniel

17:08

in the mob shirt was played

17:11

by Mark Platt . A professional dancer

17:13

danced the role of Calmer's

17:16

dream curly in the original 1943

17:19

Broadway production of Oklahoma . He

17:22

also had a dancing and speaking

17:24

role in the 55 version film

17:27

version of Oklahoma . Ephraim

17:29

, a dark green shirt is

17:31

played by Jacques de

17:33

Ambrose . A principal

17:36

dancer with New York City Ballet

17:38

, was given special

17:40

leave for the filming of Seven Brides

17:42

for Seven Brothers . Although he was recalled

17:45

before filming was completed , de

17:48

Ambrose , his

17:50

work as a dance teacher for

17:52

children was featured in the documentary film

17:54

He Makes Me Feel Like Dancing , which

17:57

won an Academy Award and Tony

17:59

Award . All right , two more Frank

18:02

. In the red shirt Tommy Rall

18:05

, a professional dancer and singer , appeared

18:07

on stage on Broadway and

18:09

in many musical films . His

18:11

roles included Bill Calhoun

18:14

in Lucentio

18:17

, lucentio , lucentio in

18:19

the film version of Kiss Me Kate . He

18:22

appeared in the film Funny Girl as

18:24

the prince who partnered Barbara

18:26

Streisand in a parody of the

18:28

ballet Swan Lake . And

18:31

finally , gideon in

18:33

the blue shirt was played by Russ

18:35

Tamplin , was cast in the role

18:37

of the youngest brother , and Tamplin

18:39

showcased his gymnastics training

18:42

throughout the action sequences . He also

18:44

had a starring role in the musical West

18:46

Side Story as Riff . As

18:49

of 2021 , following

18:51

De Ambrose's death , tamplin

18:54

is the last surviving actor

18:56

to play a brother And

18:59

they're all dead Kind

19:02

of reminds me when

19:04

your grandma Shirley

19:06

will talk about her siblings .

19:08

She's like . you know , i don't have any problems with

19:10

any of my siblings anymore , because

19:12

they're all dead .

19:13

Sorry . I mean it does resolve a lot of

19:15

conflict , You have to admit .

19:18

All right , i've got a few more bullets

19:20

to even things out , to make sure I'm

19:22

not talking and talking at the end here . So

19:25

it was nominated for five Academy

19:28

Awards , including Best Picture , and it

19:30

won for Best Score . And

19:32

as far as adaptations in the 1968

19:35

and 1970 TV series

19:37

, here come the brides . It

19:39

was inspired by the movie Seven Brides

19:41

for Seven Brothers . The 1978

19:43

stage musical Seven Brides for Seven Brothers

19:46

is an adaptation of the film , which only with

19:48

only four songs from the film

19:50

and the rest of the score consisted

19:53

of new songs . The TV

19:55

series Seven Brides for Seven Brothers

19:58

How can you make a whole TV

20:00

series on this , loosely based on

20:02

the film , ran weekly on CBS

20:04

from September 19th 82

20:06

to March 23rd 1983

20:10

.

20:10

So so your birthday

20:12

.

20:21

So as my mom reclined in her hospital

20:23

room , bed like cuddling

20:25

little infant Naomi .

20:28

Oh , let's see what's on CBS . This

20:34

plays so much And

20:36

there's a 1982

20:39

Bollywood film Sat Pai

20:42

Satta Seven on Seven . It was

20:44

a remake .

20:46

I would kill to see this as a Bollywood musical

20:49

. Yeah , agreed , all right .

20:52

I want to do like a bad racist accent about that ?

20:55

No , no , i'm not . But

20:57

like , could you imagine , like like

20:59

that really late , that that that

21:01

dink and dink and dink noise that comes on like Into

21:04

the Bollywood musical ? How

21:08

about ?

21:08

you just watch RRR . Okay , just how about

21:10

you do that ? I mean , i should .

21:14

When we come back from hiatus , i would come

21:16

back for RRR . I

21:19

mean it is like your

21:21

three out is your pick . I love that movie .

21:23

It's my pick Naomi , it's oh yeah yeah , yeah , My pick

21:25

next in six months .

21:28

Yeah you had to see their moon .

21:29

Yeah , so

21:32

I will probably not do RRR . It's

21:34

like over three hours You would

21:36

never leave . No

21:38

, maybe , maybe if I won the

21:40

lotto , because then we wouldn't have to leave

21:42

.

21:43

Man , we should get on winning the lotto Yeah

21:46

.

21:46

Find a bag of money on the side of the road that

21:48

just has a note that says Lydia , don't turn this into

21:50

the police . Ooh , just

21:53

like , funnel it into your bank account Claim

21:56

. You have a business . Sorry

21:59

, i'm putting all this information out there and now

22:01

the FBI is going to be able to figure it out And

22:04

I'm going to get arrested for fraud

22:06

. Anyways , let's go to the movie

22:08

.

22:08

I can visit you .

22:09

Oh , thank you .

22:10

Me too .

22:11

Can't get no sleep

22:14

when you sleep . Oh , that's

22:16

what I'll do when I get a prison . I'll just like do

22:18

musical numbers . I

22:20

got a lot in my head .

22:22

Have you seen that Catherine Tate

22:24

show ? What's it called ? Jenny

22:27

?

22:28

Oh , I don't remember what it's by .

22:30

I think I know what you're talking about

22:32

.

22:32

She does all the characters .

22:33

Lock up or whatever . Oh man , i

22:35

think it's called locked up , isn't it ? No

22:37

, maybe not , i don't know .

22:40

But we're not here to talk about hilarious women

22:42

doing bits right

22:45

we're here to talk about The

22:48

Oregon Territory in 1850

22:50

. The head credits

22:52

, i would like to note okay , so

22:54

this is like Lions Kate , and then

22:56

it's like Cinema Scope , and then we

22:59

cut , and then , okay , we get titles . And

23:01

I would just like it to be known that Johnny

23:03

Mercer wrote the lyrics and

23:05

that he needs to be held Accountable , even

23:07

though he's probably dead now .

23:09

I'm sorry , i'm really , i'm

23:11

, i'm . I'm being

23:13

greeted by a wonder

23:15

boy .

23:16

How see like wiggling at you .

23:18

He's like right . He's like right on the pillow

23:21

. He wants to climb up the pillow to see because

23:23

he's because he likes you .

23:25

If you all look over at Amos , you'll see his

23:27

, his expression . Oh shit , do

23:32

you guys not see ?

23:35

Tank brother is right there .

23:39

What if I just picked him up and turned him around , always

23:41

kind of turning around himself ?

23:43

put him on the pillow a . Double dog

23:45

, dare you was . He was getting on

23:47

the pillow .

23:47

Yeah , yeah , he was on the pillow .

23:49

Yeah , I don't . He doesn't really like soft things .

23:52

Feel that way about my misogyny , don't

23:55

be subtle with it .

23:57

Well , we're gonna have some after we get

24:00

through these opening credits .

24:01

Oh , fantastic , but okay , remember Johnny Mercer

24:03

. Okay we're mad at him . Oregon

24:09

Territory 1850

24:11

.

24:11

Yeah , yeah , and my first note

24:13

sexist shopping list .

24:16

Okay , did you see the elevator

24:18

eyes ? He gave that first chick he came across

24:21

.

24:21

Yeah , I had went up and down

24:23

, Which is hilarious because she

24:25

was like half his size Yeah all of them

24:27

are half his size .

24:28

He's gigantic , norma .

24:30

Yeah , he's like a redwood .

24:32

Truly is the reddest head in

24:34

the leatheriest fringy outfit I have

24:38

. you have to admit , his beard is phenomenal

24:40

, yeah but it's still like I

24:42

don't know .

24:43

I've seen better . I mean , it's not . It's not

24:45

a bad beard but , I've seen better . I

24:47

love a beard on a redhead Mm-hmm , it's

24:50

very Nordic . Hmm , yeah

24:52

me , i'm yum .

24:52

Yeah me , i'm yum . Oh , plotters

24:55

, if you hear a stop and pet a cat . That's

24:57

what happens sometimes .

24:58

Yeah , howard Keel was six foot

25:00

four .

25:02

Yeah , he towered over all of us so it makes

25:04

sense why he would be your brother , because

25:07

he would .

25:07

He's like Here's the problem , as you refer to

25:09

them as my brother , because

25:12

what we're saying is the dude

25:14

, i'd want a snog , okay

25:17

but when you say it's my brother , i think of Abraham

25:19

, whom I love dearly , but I do

25:21

not want to snog .

25:22

Okay , so it makes sense why Adam would

25:25

be the guy you want to snog . Yeah , yeah

25:27

, yeah , because he's like four inches

25:29

taller than you .

25:31

Yeah , yeah , i don't think I've ever kissed

25:33

anybody taller than me . Not like

25:35

that .

25:37

Yeah , but I've like kissed you on a stair .

25:43

Jen , for your birthday , i'll get you some platform boots

25:45

.

25:46

No , i like my police . Petite little

25:48

little woman , i like that . You

25:50

tiny . I'm the redwood to

25:52

you . Jen is the Millie to

25:55

your Adam . Yeah , okay , i'm

25:57

a sexist piece of shit

25:59

, and Jen is my petite tiny

26:02

lady bird , yeah .

26:03

So the , the guy that we're talking

26:05

about right now . This is the one of

26:07

the main characters name is Adam . He

26:10

has friend , he's got this

26:12

like super like

26:14

, like like frontier

26:16

outfit complete with like this

26:18

leathery fringe that's just

26:20

everywhere , and He

26:23

goes into a store and

26:25

he is trading in some stuff

26:28

Like $60 worth

26:30

of stuff that I don't really remember because

26:32

it's little it's leather .

26:33

It's leather or first .

26:35

Yeah . and so he's like saying well , trade you for

26:37

, you know , a plow and some lard

26:39

, and you got a woman underneath that counter And

26:42

I'm like I've come for a wife , yeah

26:44

, oh , and also like there's

26:46

like copious amounts of calling women

26:49

females in this movie Yes oh .

26:52

It's like no , no , we don't refer to

26:54

that . Okay , and the reason of plotters , if you

26:56

don't know ? and we don't refer to women as females

26:59

? because we are not scientifically Classing

27:01

them and turning them into

27:03

lesser creatures , right , which

27:06

which is something that really disturbs me . When

27:08

Watching like police shows , i'm

27:11

like that's a woman . Mm-hmm

27:14

, yeah , i was a female , a

27:16

female , so you can shoot it and like document

27:18

it , like put your data on it . No

27:20

, i'm good , put it away for

27:22

for more about Me

27:25

renting out female anything's

27:27

. Go to any of our other episodes

27:29

.

27:29

Mm-hmm .

27:30

Yes , a frequent problem for me .

27:33

And so he's like I'm

27:35

going to find me a woman

27:37

and She

27:39

needs to be pretty fresh and

27:41

young . Yeah , there's like four , four

27:43

women who come into the store

27:46

And he's like this

27:48

, this is , this is this is this is

27:50

what I did with my time on our second

27:52

viewing . I made a list of

27:54

things that make me say gross , and

27:57

And the first thing

27:59

is is the one where you wouldn't

28:01

have a wife under that counter , would

28:03

you ? and I'm like no , gross , gross

28:05

. The second thing , which is in this exact

28:08

same scene , he specifically says

28:10

you're all pretty fresh and young

28:12

, and I'm like no , no , no .

28:16

No wives under here , but there is a prostitute

28:18

doing something pretty nice to me . Sex

28:21

worker honey . Yes .

28:23

Yes .

28:23

I'm .

28:27

Ted , are you feeling uncomfortable

28:29

? No , because

28:32

feel free to move wonder boy

28:34

whenever you need .

28:35

Okay , i'll just turn him around anytime it comes

28:37

near , but he certainly does

28:39

seem to make his way back over here .

28:41

He really likes you . He thinks

28:43

you're pretty fresh .

28:47

Yeah , the problem

28:50

is not that he finds these women attractive

28:52

. The problem is that he's like objectifying

28:55

them and Minimizing their

28:57

humanness . He is looking at a quantity

29:00

, not a human .

29:02

He's looking at women in

29:04

relationship to himself Ie

29:06

, he wants a woman who can be his wife

29:08

instead of realizing

29:10

that these women are autonomous creatures

29:13

who are allowed to make a choice

29:15

, because Something that they mentioned

29:17

in the scene is that there are five

29:19

women to there's five men to one

29:21

woman . So he got a . Really . You got to

29:23

really really work it . Basically

29:26

, you got to work it be an attractive .

29:28

Yeah , that's . That's the only

29:30

reason I think he lands Millie is because he's hot

29:32

like yeah . He certainly doesn't do anything

29:34

worthy of like Elevator eyes in

29:37

his direction , except for looking kind of good there

29:39

.

29:39

There are a couple of times where he does

29:41

get a little like poetic

29:43

.

29:44

I mean we'll get there , we'll get there , we'll get there Yeah

29:46

.

29:46

Yeah , but my other note is this guy's

29:49

Tinder profile will make me want to become a nun

29:51

.

29:52

He's holding a fish . He's

29:54

like I'll go . Some fatties need

29:56

not apply .

29:58

No cross-eyed females , no

30:04

so , while

30:07

this musical number is going on , he's

30:10

like talking about all the things that he doesn't

30:12

want in a woman and He's

30:14

starting to hit on him and they keep like Going

30:16

away .

30:17

Yeah , he hits on a man kid . At one point

30:19

he turns to one girl is like you

30:21

ever think about getting married ? and Dude

30:24

behind him is like on the other side of

30:26

her is like , yeah , have you ever thought about getting married

30:28

? I never thought you'd ask . He

30:30

, like clock blocked himself . Pretty

30:34

good , i said clock .

30:36

You did . I wasn't sure if you meant

30:39

to say clock and we're gonna correct

30:41

yourself . So I was prepping for you to correct

30:43

yourself , but clock block works .

30:46

There you go , that's for

30:48

you . Okay

30:51

. So he spies . Who

30:54

will ? we will come to know , is Millie chopping

30:56

wood and she's doing the

30:58

posture bad . She is like

31:00

throwing herself over like chopping

31:02

wood . Nobody in this movie knows

31:04

how to chop wood at all .

31:06

It's like they're not part of the Oregon territory

31:08

in 1850 .

31:11

Her form is particularly bad and he's

31:13

like Huppa-duh

31:18

, Huppa-duh , Huppa-duh Oh .

31:26

He finishes off . He

31:28

finishes off the musical number by

31:30

going inside to the , the

31:33

saloon where Millie works as

31:35

a cook . I think they call it the inn , but it

31:37

is a restaurant bar situation

31:39

as soon as he goes in , you hear one of those bling

31:41

bling , bling , bling , bling , bling like

31:43

little musical instruments where it's just one

31:46

string Okay very

31:48

red neck sounding .

31:49

Yeah So well , they only could afford

31:51

one string out there and it was hard to

31:53

come by . You had to kill the cat yourself

31:56

or whatever .

31:57

Cat strings , that's a thing . Yeah , they

31:59

would say cat intestines . So

32:02

glad we live in the future .

32:04

Okay . So he's all like the guys

32:06

like What can I get

32:08

for you's ?

32:09

like just a second , i gotta I should have something

32:11

to eat first , cuz she's ladling out stew

32:13

and She's

32:15

ladling out to this whole Table

32:18

full of guys and she's just

32:20

like , like they're like talking about oh , you're gonna

32:22

marry me , right , millie ? She was just sort

32:25

of like what would your wife say about that

32:27

? Yeah , and then

32:29

Adam sits down and as soon as Millie sees

32:31

him , she like is ladling into

32:34

a guy's lap .

32:35

Yeah , yeah , she's like oh , I'm sorry

32:37

, it's all right , millie . Yeah , it's like if

32:39

someone's hot , they're allowed to hurt you

32:42

and yeah , not get mad about it . Then

32:44

he comes , he comes , she comes

32:46

over to him and lays little , like very

32:48

thoughtfully , into his bowl and he's like Smells

32:52

good enough to eat and she's like tastes

32:54

pretty good . I'm told Yeah

32:57

, and then

32:59

like she walks away . He takes a bite and he's like good

33:02

, yeah . And then like

33:05

she walks away but she's like looking back at him . I'm

33:07

just looking like moon-eyed

33:09

is a phrase that are should be

33:11

in my notes more often than it is , because it's just over

33:14

and over and over again Mm-hmm , and . And

33:16

then we're that's , we're done with that scene . And

33:18

then she's milk and a cow . My

33:20

notes say milk .

33:21

Interrupting milking A cow is rude so

33:24

I Want to make

33:27

a small note on

33:29

the whole like . For

33:31

me It feels so surface

33:34

for someone to fall for somebody

33:36

over just their , their cooking

33:38

ability , but that's pretty much

33:41

how we landed each other .

33:43

Yeah , Jen was planning on breaking up with me , but

33:45

then I made her some spaghetti .

33:49

Yeah , but you guys had known each other

33:51

like for more than a day right

33:54

, yeah . Yeah so there you go .

33:56

I made a comment on him approaching

33:58

her while she was milking . Yeah , I

34:00

.

34:03

That's Amos going ew .

34:08

Saying you would make an

34:11

utterly fantastic wife

34:13

. Boo , sorry .

34:20

I mean , if Sean would have left , he's probably

34:22

laughing now .

34:23

I mean I laughed . I thought that was a great pun

34:25

.

34:26

So he leans over this cow . He's just like look , here's

34:29

how it would go down . I'd

34:32

like say hi to you . In like six months

34:34

I'd ask for you to go for a walk with me . I

34:36

might touch your hand .

34:37

Why don't we skip that and get married And she's all

34:39

like he specifically says I

34:41

got to go back up and plow for the , for

34:44

the harvest , or like

34:46

I got to plow the field for something

34:48

And I'm not going to be back down

34:50

here for 10 months , which is kind of

34:52

like BS Cause later on

34:54

, you know , millie comes down like a

34:56

few times anyways , but

34:59

he's like you're not going to make me wait that long

35:01

, are you ? And I was like , look , if

35:03

I have to make a decision right now , i'm

35:05

going to have to say no . Also , my

35:07

note was uh , don't fall for an average

35:09

looking man , millie , which you are

35:12

allowed to hate me for that comment .

35:14

I know he , he , he does do that to

35:16

himself in about one scene . So don't don't

35:18

feel bad .

35:19

So I love the YouTube

35:21

series . hell of a boss , and there's a character

35:24

in there named Millie , and so

35:26

my next note was she

35:28

deserves a small musical loving imp , i

35:30

think .

35:31

I think of , um , I think of

35:33

Millie and Moksy . Okay , So

35:35

, uh , I love hell of a boss . I am an uh

35:38

, I'm a Blitzow . Who , who

35:40

, who made ? who married to Stolis , but

35:42

on more whimsical days , I think

35:44

of us as Molly and Millie .

35:46

Yeah , I , i , oh , my good , I always

35:48

like to say Uh , on

35:50

, uh . I like to say that on my good days I'm

35:52

a Moksy , on my bad days I'm a Blitz

35:54

.

35:55

Yes , Uh , that's where . that's where we

35:57

meet at our fellow Blitzness

35:59

.

35:59

Yeah .

36:00

Which again like an absurdly bad

36:03

character . But he's so like

36:05

I , so much like

36:07

me in my head

36:10

like , like the self-destructive tendencies . Yeah

36:12

, he walks around and he's like , oh , f*** me , like

36:15

that's me every day .

36:17

So we were talking about , uh , a 1950s

36:20

musical , a good Christian movie

36:22

.

36:23

It's what we're talking about right now , not talking about You're

36:25

talking about satanic imps , horny

36:28

satanic imps . Get it right .

36:31

Are you sure that's not this movie

36:33

? Okay ?

36:37

All right . So

36:40

she's like , sure , why not ? And

36:43

he walks into a barber shop where

36:45

he promptly shaves off his beard

36:47

, but not the mustache , but

36:50

not the mustache , which I

36:52

think would have been a mistake , but like it's still

36:54

not great , he should have kept the beard . She

36:56

liked you with the beard , imagine . I

36:58

mean , i don't know , like I don't

37:00

, i don't have an irrational feelings

37:03

about this , but it is literally a thing for

37:05

a dude to change his appearance without consulting

37:08

his significant other first .

37:10

And she is essentially is SO at this point

37:12

.

37:12

Yeah , They , they , they've just

37:14

met . It is not a time for drastic

37:16

changes like getting married

37:19

on the day you meet someone .

37:22

So what you're saying is this is when the science breaks

37:24

down , for you .

37:25

It really does Like if , if

37:27

I was , if Jen and I were getting married again

37:29

, and like , cause I

37:31

dream about , about us renewing our vows

37:33

, and like if I walked in and

37:35

you had like a short bob without

37:38

talking to me first , i

37:40

would be Yeah And

37:43

I know , that's a . That is a hypocrisy

37:46

, because you've walked in and I've had like purple

37:48

hair Right , like

37:50

you're very chill about it , but I'd be like , and

37:52

we weren't going to discuss , like , just

37:55

terrible terrible .

37:56

Yeah , i keep reading articles that , like

37:58

trans women , can appear

38:01

more effeminate by having bangs

38:03

And I'm like resist , don't

38:06

do it .

38:06

Resist , jen . No , you

38:10

got straight enough hair for it . I don't want to still

38:12

think it would suit . We can . We can pretend

38:14

we can get a little clip and see if it would work .

38:16

No , that little face app that I have .

38:18

Oh yeah , And it's not good .

38:21

I'm glad I have that app , because there's just

38:24

so many things that I would try . I

38:28

know what I would .

38:29

Yeah , i walked

38:31

, so you could run Sorry

38:33

.

38:34

Sorry , who are we talking about ? musicals

38:37

? the second tangent

38:40

.

38:40

You thought I was mighty chauvinist

38:42

. You thought I was mighty chauvinist before , but

38:44

now I've shaved , so I'm obviously

38:47

not that chauvinist pig anymore , because

38:49

I've only got a mustache . But

38:51

he's still in like a sweaty leather suit

38:53

.

38:55

He was just smelled so bad

38:57

. But

38:59

then they find the preacher who apparently was

39:01

taking care of Millie after her parents

39:04

died . She had like a tragic backstory

39:06

. And then he's all like no . And

39:09

then his daughter Alice is like oh , it's so romantic

39:11

. And he's like , are you set on this ? And

39:13

she goes I am . And he's like all right

39:15

, he goes . Actually he's all like , okay

39:19

, i'm thoroughly against this marriage

39:21

. All right . I'll perform the ceremony

39:24

, do you ?

39:24

Yes , yes , And

39:27

we have conveniently left out the

39:29

brothers . Yes , and

39:31

like it's first seen , adam's

39:33

like oh , it's just me and my brothers up there

39:35

at the cabin and be really good to have a wife

39:38

who could cook and clean and do

39:40

all those womeny things And again

39:42

like gross . But he

39:44

does not bring it up to Millie at all .

39:47

And so they're doing a 12

39:49

mile journey , which has got to be

39:51

like in today's horse

39:53

miles 12

39:56

hours .

39:57

I mean it's probably like like the better part

39:59

of three miles , 12 miles

40:01

Yeah . So like if you think a horse is

40:03

like four times as fast , so maybe it's like three hours

40:05

.

40:06

Yeah , yeah , probably , i don't know

40:08

. My

40:10

maps app doesn't do horse miles .

40:12

I think , i think , uh , what is it like ? a

40:14

horse and cart ? and DND is

40:16

, like you know , five times faster

40:18

than if you're walking by by foot .

40:22

It's not really roads either .

40:24

Right , so they can't go super fast .

40:26

And they have to go through a pass , so they're obviously gaining

40:28

a lot of elevation , we

40:30

assume , Man , I kind of get up to

40:32

where that snow is . But she's waxing

40:35

on .

40:36

She's like uh , after the

40:38

, after they get married , they head on up to

40:40

his cabin and she's like

40:42

I was thinking about .

40:44

It might be awfully lonely , not working at the end

40:46

anymore , but I could stand to be a little lonely

40:48

.

40:49

Yeah , There's . I'm not going to have to cook and

40:51

clean for all those men .

40:52

That's such a good thing . And

40:55

then she sings about how much she

40:57

doesn't want to be with all those

40:59

people and how in love because

41:01

it's been up two hours , i guess

41:03

, and like she's

41:06

, like I can't , even I can't fake the song

41:08

sounds when I'm not actually watching

41:11

it , if

41:15

it's really , or The hills are

41:17

a blive with the fact

41:20

that I'm with only one man

41:22

here , only

41:25

one dude I have to put up

41:27

with .

41:29

And like the what's interesting is before this musical

41:31

number . like Adam is like , uh , yeah

41:34

, i might need to go ahead and kind

41:36

of clarify some things And he leans

41:39

in to tell her , while she's picking her wedding

41:41

bouquet of , of herb she's going

41:43

to make soup with .

41:45

I don't know , i don't know . No , it's not

41:47

that , that's tiny flowers , tiny

41:49

flower stems . Demons , demons

41:51

, staples , staples

41:55

, demons . Sean

41:58

, yell it to me on the factory floor . Okay , so

42:01

um , they'll be , they'll be

42:03

, they'll be , they're called statements

42:05

Okay , um

42:08

, so he , he falls back

42:10

and he just can't tell her , for whatever

42:12

reason . So let's pull into the farm

42:15

.

42:15

Yep And uh , as

42:17

, as she gets down , she's looking around

42:19

and is like , Oh , this looks really nice . And

42:22

then , lo and behold , there is a brother right behind

42:24

her . She's like , Oh , okay .

42:26

Okay , this is where my notes go . She's

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so , and

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.

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And then , as you say , yeah , i like

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, like after after the introduction

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of all of these brothers showing up , i would

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have been like I think I'm going to brave the wilderness rather

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than stay .

42:42

Yeah , He starts bringing out all of these red heads

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and I'm like that's too many red heads . And

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you like red heads ?

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for a parent , yeah , yeah , and

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so , uh , like , the introduction to the brothers is

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very much like these are all of their names

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and they're all Bible names , and and

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then there's there's Frank , and she's like I

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don't remember a Frank in the Bible , is like , oh

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well , that was because he was called

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frank and says , cause it smelled so sweet

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and he's real sensitive about his name .

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So he starts fighting And , yeah , they all start

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brawling around her as Adam

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introduces her to her life of drudgery

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. He's not like . She's like Oh , it's really big

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and messy . And he's like , yeah , but now that you're here

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and my notes go .

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Thanks , a plotter , for joining us for part

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one of our review of 1954's

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musical classic seven brides for

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seven brothers . We've still got

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two parts left and we've definitely

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got a lot more to discuss in our plot walkthrough

43:37

, sean facts and , of course

43:39

, our shocked and applaudable moments . Hey

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, this is your audio engineer

43:45

and bride of a bride , jen

43:47

. As you've heard , we're

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taking a break for a while after this month's

43:51

episode . If you're an official

43:54

, a plotter on Patreon , we'll be sending

43:56

you some additional details shortly with

43:58

a thank you for all of the support you've given us

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over the nearly five years of this show

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. We've made our time together

44:04

such a wonderful adventure . We'll

44:07

return next week for part two of our review

44:10

of this fifties musical comedy From

44:13

shocked and applaud . thank you for

44:16

patroning the peculiar .

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