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But her form is particularly bad and
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he's like Mwah , mwah , mwah . And
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yeah , yeah , yeah , Huppa-da
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, huppa-da , huppa-da , Woo-ga .
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Welcome plotters , My name is Naomi McQuade
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, i'm Lydia Malcolm And .
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I'm Jen McQuade And you know what movie
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we're doing because you clicked on the thing . You
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, wonderful , wonderful person .
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Thank you so much for joining us .
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Seven Brads for Seven Brothers , which
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is a very fast and furious title .
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Yeah , it seems like the
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S's should be replaced with 7's
1:03
or something .
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Yes , There's a
1:06
movie called Seven , right , with the numbers
1:08
replaced Yeah .
1:10
Yeah , so just like we need to
1:12
take that movie and mush it
1:14
into this one .
1:15
And the word for should be the
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number four .
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Yeah , Oh man .
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Yeah So .
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This was Maddie's pick And
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I don't hate it . I mean , this is
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a movie that I came to
1:31
because of the King County Library
1:33
system Yeah , because this was back
1:35
when I had a library card And I'm like I'm looking
1:38
for anything that's going to be fun And I was like seven
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brides for seven brothers . I guess this
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is going to be fun . And
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was it Like
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I'm trying to remember how I
1:49
felt about this movie as a teenager and
1:51
have a note Oh
1:53
, there we go . Yeah , like in the third
1:56
act , i have a note that talks about
1:58
like this movie explains some things
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.
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Really Well . I came to this movie
2:03
by way of Madeline 25
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, 20, . Like how
2:09
long ago was 1998 ?
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That would have been like 25
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years .
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Yeah . So when Sean
2:17
from Sean Fax went away to college
2:20
, I started hanging out
2:22
with Madeline a lot And
2:24
she's like , oh , she had all these VHSs , because
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that's how old I am , applauders . And
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she was like , oh , I got a movie you've got to
2:31
see . So , in her room
2:34
, laying on her bed eating cheesy pretzel
2:36
bites , which are one of my favorite vices
2:39
, we just watched
2:41
it And unironically loved
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it . It was so
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long ago And I've changed so much
2:49
, So watching it this time was like how
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was I taking this in as a teenager ? I
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don't , I honestly do not know .
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So what about me ?
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Yeah , Jen , what about you ?
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Today was how many
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days old I was when
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I first watched this movie .
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Applauders . We forgot the SD card
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at our place coming over to
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record with Lydia And so we
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just started the movie . Jen's like I'm going to
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miss like 20 minutes , but I don't want to make it the recording
3:21
take too long And Lydia and I were both like no , no , no
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, no , we'll wait . Just
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watching you taking the movie for
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the first time was a delight .
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Yes , I probably
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. I have
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some small
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remembrance of this , probably
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being on the background at
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my grandmother's house because she watches
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musicals all
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the time , so but
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honestly , i
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, from like , until
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up to possibly when
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Madeline announced that this was the movie we
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were going to see , i thought this was a
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period piece like in
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some sort of King and I situation or
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like more like a British period
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piece . Oh , it's
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not that idea of the plot
4:14
And I thought it was like
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Mr Darcy and his friends , gentlemen
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, friends .
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I have to go and find some information
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. Yeah
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, nope .
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Nope .
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Did you ? we've never done a period
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piece .
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Once I saw . When I saw
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the photos that Madeline sent
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us so we could guess what movie
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it was , i thought
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it was probably the
4:45
music man or something
4:49
.
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Hello Dolly .
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Yeah , guys and dolls . No
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no , it is not one of those things
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.
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Yeah , you got some sobbing women
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over here that we have to Take
6:52
a break , but I think it's it's . I
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think we all started this
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podcast with the With
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the agreement that if , for any reason
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would have no hard feelings
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, that we would just This
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is for fun anyway , and
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we just move on and keep
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you informed . So
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We have talked
7:29
about how we came to this movie .
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Mm-hmm . So you know what I'm in the
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mood for what are you in the mood
7:35
for ? push . Go ahead , push my
7:37
buttons .
7:42
So satisfying to hear your own voice like
7:44
that .
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Well , most actually , i
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think all of this is Production
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or Information
7:55
about some of the actors . So
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I'm probably just gonna like cut this
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in half and we will do
8:03
half the Sean facts right now And then
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we'll just finish up At
8:07
the end of the episode with some Sean
8:10
facts as well . Oh
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, seven brides for seven brothers , 1954
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. What are our guesses on
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the budget of this
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movie ?
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1954 , this was during
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the , the , the heyday of musicals
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back then . So I can't help but
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think that maybe was
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given a bigger budget and
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1954
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I want to say that may have even been like smack
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dab in the middle , so it wasn't like , it wasn't
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like hello dolly , where it
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like cost like An
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extreme amount of money
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and it didn't make nearly as much
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back . So I'm
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gonna go ahead and say that the
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we're just talking budget right now , right .
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Right , okay and probably yeah
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, money for the time .
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And in money for the time . So I , so we're not
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adjusting for inflation , so
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I'm gonna go ahead . I'm
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gonna say 30 million
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. It's a high amount for 1954
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, but But like
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they , i mean this was , this
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was during the heyday of musicals , so that's
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why I think they threw a lot of money at it .
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I , i'm gonna low-ball it . I feel like
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if it costs three million
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I'd be surprised . I I think that it
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probably is lower than that .
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Dang , you're
9:33
so good at this that is not the
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case .
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See any of our previous .
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Two and a half million is the budget . Some
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of this actually was siphoned off
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to the production of Brigadune , which
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the studio felt would be the better film was
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it ? We didn't
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tell you I haven't seen Brigadune either
9:53
.
9:53
We'd have to , we'd have to do Brigadune in order
9:55
to get those numbers man .
9:57
So That was budget
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. What about box office , lydia
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?
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30 million . I
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think it probably 15
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million nine , point four
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million , so it it made its
10:13
money back three times for sure . That's great
10:15
Okay .
10:15
Yeah , alright , so
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Seven brides for seven
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brothers , based on the short story
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the sobbing women by Steven
10:24
Vincent Benet , which was
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based in turn on the ancient Roman
10:29
legend of the rape of
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the Sobbing women
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. I want to . I want to say Sabin
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, and I think it's because of Power
10:38
Rangers .
10:41
Just changes everything about power
10:44
.
10:45
Wait I .
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Want to say Sabin instead of Sabin
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that's what it was The
10:53
Saban women but is the is the
10:55
whole premise is that it's the sobbing
10:57
women like the , the adaptation
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of the rape
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of the Saban women
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from Roman .
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Yeah , but they use both words in the musical
11:08
. Yeah they go back and forth
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between sobbing and Saban .
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I don't understand why . I Mean
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if it's one thing , don't
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make a whole song about how
11:21
it , how it's mispronounced . But
11:25
okay , we don't need to insert
11:28
my opinions on .
11:31
The whole show is us inserting our opinions
11:33
on all the things save
11:35
it for the podcast .
11:37
Oh wait .
11:40
The wood shopping scene . Oh , this is a
11:42
. This is probably the one scene A
11:44
comment here , but I'll . We
11:47
can bring it up later , but the wood chopping scene
11:49
in lonesome pole cat was filmed
11:51
in a single take . Oh wow , and
11:53
I will
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bring in the facts
11:58
about the brothers Here
12:00
, and then I'll bring in the facts about the
12:02
brides at the end . To
12:05
perform the dance numbers and action sequences
12:07
, cory Coryographer
12:09
Michael kid wanted dancers
12:11
to portray all six of Adam Pontepe's
12:14
brothers . Kid said
12:16
that he had to find a way
12:19
to have these backwoods men dance without
12:21
looking ridiculous . I have
12:23
to base it all around activities you would
12:25
accept From such people
12:27
. It couldn't look like ballet and
12:29
it could only have been done by superbly
12:32
trained dancers .
12:35
Oh no , we wanted the manly miss of pirouettes
12:38
. I
12:43
want you to serpentine right while snapping
12:45
. But I what Donna Madonna
12:48
like Madonna , madonna
12:50
.
12:52
Okay , so I think these
12:54
yeah , these are in order
12:57
of birth . Adam , who
12:59
wore the light green shirt , howard
13:02
keel , a professional singer , appeared
13:04
as the eldest of the seven brothers . He also appeared
13:07
as Petruchio
13:09
in the film version of kiss me Kate
13:11
and appeared in leading roles in other musical
13:13
films , including Rosemary and
13:16
showboat .
13:17
Oh , kiss me . Kate is amazing . We
13:19
should watch that together sometime .
13:21
Benjamin orange shirt
13:23
. And I have to say like
13:26
, as far as attractiveness , i think
13:28
Benjamin is probably what does
13:30
it for me .
13:31
I agree , no , adam , before he
13:33
shaves .
13:35
Like the brawny sort of beard
13:38
Yeah .
13:39
I mean , if I'm gonna , i'm gonna shack up with somebody on in
13:41
a flat and all they better have like an accompanying
13:43
beard .
13:44
Okay , before we go any further , i've
13:47
got to know like who
13:49
is our brother , like who
13:51
who's ?
13:52
who is , who is the if , if somebody
13:54
like kidnapped you okay
13:57
, okay , and I thought about this okay
13:59
, i Really
14:01
liked Gideon when I first watched it , like
14:03
I thought he was the cute one , but I also
14:05
always was assigned , like as a child
14:07
, that like the youngest member of a group , so like Joey
14:10
from new kids on the block or Johnny and which
14:12
one's the youngest one , but like the youngest
14:14
one generally , and so like I thought I had to like him
14:16
. but watching it now I'm like , hmm , he looks like Gremlin
14:19
, so Like fine , but
14:21
he's got like this kind of like trickster Irish
14:23
face . He could be a leprechaun They all
14:25
could , but like him specifically a leprechaun
14:28
and so I really do think
14:30
it's Adam .
14:33
Who did the least amount of kidnapping , even
14:35
though it was his idea .
14:36
So All
14:39
of my lines that I kept saying gross
14:42
at in the watching are his yeah
14:44
, that's that's the re
14:46
, that's the real clincher of it .
14:48
Like I have a feminist streak
14:51
, that's I don't know if you've noticed , but
14:53
it's there and the fact
14:55
that , like the fact I have
14:57
a playlist on my phone called boy
14:59
shi , and it's specifically
15:02
because every more often
15:04
than I'd like to admit , i'm like mmm
15:07
.
15:09
Oh , go ahead and degrade me , yeah
15:11
, like .
15:11
What's wrong with me ? like if I thought
15:13
you meant it , i would be like all over you
15:15
, but if you're just like Good
15:19
little lady , it's
15:22
so stupid , i know it's bad .
15:24
Yeah , he may have done the least amount of kidnapping
15:26
, but he's still sort of the Charlie Manson
15:29
of the group .
15:33
And I get it . I'm so sorry
15:35
.
15:36
All right , lydia , uh
15:38
like , for even
15:41
when I was younger , it was always been for me
15:43
Mm-hmm . Yeah , i
15:45
don't , and he's the one who doesn't dance at
15:47
all . Yeah .
15:49
I didn't realize that .
15:50
Yeah , what ?
15:52
Okay , so Frankincense
15:55
nice , that would have been my number
15:57
two , yeah because his name is Frankincense
15:59
. Okay , okay , so Lee , for solely
16:02
for his name , but I don't know , is that the reason
16:04
for you ?
16:05
Oh well , he seemed to be the most , Most
16:07
Potentially
16:09
gay . Maybe , i
16:11
don't know . You see , like when I
16:13
mean he had overly defensive about his name
16:15
.
16:16
He's like why I ought to , and like
16:18
when he raises his wrist to fight there a
16:20
little flippity flabbity . Yeah
16:23
a little swish swish on that so
16:26
Where are
16:28
we ?
16:29
Benjamin ? did we already say bent ? No
16:31
, we didn't say Benjamin . Yet Jeff
16:33
Richards was a former professional
16:35
baseball player who topped out
16:37
at the triple a level of the minor leagues
16:39
. Although obviously athletic
16:41
, he is noticeably in the background
16:44
seated or standing during
16:46
the dance numbers So as to not expose
16:49
his lesser dancing skills
16:51
. Nice Caleb
16:54
. Yellow shirt . Matt Maddox
16:56
, a professional dancer , appeared on
16:58
stage on Broadway and also danced in many
17:00
Hollywood musical films . His Singing
17:03
voice for the film was dubbed by
17:05
a person named Bill Lee . Daniel
17:08
in the mob shirt was played
17:11
by Mark Platt . A professional dancer
17:13
danced the role of Calmer's
17:16
dream curly in the original 1943
17:19
Broadway production of Oklahoma . He
17:22
also had a dancing and speaking
17:24
role in the 55 version film
17:27
version of Oklahoma . Ephraim
17:29
, a dark green shirt is
17:31
played by Jacques de
17:33
Ambrose . A principal
17:36
dancer with New York City Ballet
17:38
, was given special
17:40
leave for the filming of Seven Brides
17:42
for Seven Brothers . Although he was recalled
17:45
before filming was completed , de
17:48
Ambrose , his
17:50
work as a dance teacher for
17:52
children was featured in the documentary film
17:54
He Makes Me Feel Like Dancing , which
17:57
won an Academy Award and Tony
17:59
Award . All right , two more Frank
18:02
. In the red shirt Tommy Rall
18:05
, a professional dancer and singer , appeared
18:07
on stage on Broadway and
18:09
in many musical films . His
18:11
roles included Bill Calhoun
18:14
in Lucentio
18:17
, lucentio , lucentio in
18:19
the film version of Kiss Me Kate . He
18:22
appeared in the film Funny Girl as
18:24
the prince who partnered Barbara
18:26
Streisand in a parody of the
18:28
ballet Swan Lake . And
18:31
finally , gideon in
18:33
the blue shirt was played by Russ
18:35
Tamplin , was cast in the role
18:37
of the youngest brother , and Tamplin
18:39
showcased his gymnastics training
18:42
throughout the action sequences . He also
18:44
had a starring role in the musical West
18:46
Side Story as Riff . As
18:49
of 2021 , following
18:51
De Ambrose's death , tamplin
18:54
is the last surviving actor
18:56
to play a brother And
18:59
they're all dead Kind
19:02
of reminds me when
19:04
your grandma Shirley
19:06
will talk about her siblings .
19:08
She's like . you know , i don't have any problems with
19:10
any of my siblings anymore , because
19:12
they're all dead .
19:13
Sorry . I mean it does resolve a lot of
19:15
conflict , You have to admit .
19:18
All right , i've got a few more bullets
19:20
to even things out , to make sure I'm
19:22
not talking and talking at the end here . So
19:25
it was nominated for five Academy
19:28
Awards , including Best Picture , and it
19:30
won for Best Score . And
19:32
as far as adaptations in the 1968
19:35
and 1970 TV series
19:37
, here come the brides . It
19:39
was inspired by the movie Seven Brides
19:41
for Seven Brothers . The 1978
19:43
stage musical Seven Brides for Seven Brothers
19:46
is an adaptation of the film , which only with
19:48
only four songs from the film
19:50
and the rest of the score consisted
19:53
of new songs . The TV
19:55
series Seven Brides for Seven Brothers
19:58
How can you make a whole TV
20:00
series on this , loosely based on
20:02
the film , ran weekly on CBS
20:04
from September 19th 82
20:06
to March 23rd 1983
20:10
.
20:10
So so your birthday
20:12
.
20:21
So as my mom reclined in her hospital
20:23
room , bed like cuddling
20:25
little infant Naomi .
20:28
Oh , let's see what's on CBS . This
20:34
plays so much And
20:36
there's a 1982
20:39
Bollywood film Sat Pai
20:42
Satta Seven on Seven . It was
20:44
a remake .
20:46
I would kill to see this as a Bollywood musical
20:49
. Yeah , agreed , all right .
20:52
I want to do like a bad racist accent about that ?
20:55
No , no , i'm not . But
20:57
like , could you imagine , like like
20:59
that really late , that that that
21:01
dink and dink and dink noise that comes on like Into
21:04
the Bollywood musical ? How
21:08
about ?
21:08
you just watch RRR . Okay , just how about
21:10
you do that ? I mean , i should .
21:14
When we come back from hiatus , i would come
21:16
back for RRR . I
21:19
mean it is like your
21:21
three out is your pick . I love that movie .
21:23
It's my pick Naomi , it's oh yeah yeah , yeah , My pick
21:25
next in six months .
21:28
Yeah you had to see their moon .
21:29
Yeah , so
21:32
I will probably not do RRR . It's
21:34
like over three hours You would
21:36
never leave . No
21:38
, maybe , maybe if I won the
21:40
lotto , because then we wouldn't have to leave
21:42
.
21:43
Man , we should get on winning the lotto Yeah
21:46
.
21:46
Find a bag of money on the side of the road that
21:48
just has a note that says Lydia , don't turn this into
21:50
the police . Ooh , just
21:53
like , funnel it into your bank account Claim
21:56
. You have a business . Sorry
21:59
, i'm putting all this information out there and now
22:01
the FBI is going to be able to figure it out And
22:04
I'm going to get arrested for fraud
22:06
. Anyways , let's go to the movie
22:08
.
22:08
I can visit you .
22:09
Oh , thank you .
22:10
Me too .
22:11
Can't get no sleep
22:14
when you sleep . Oh , that's
22:16
what I'll do when I get a prison . I'll just like do
22:18
musical numbers . I
22:20
got a lot in my head .
22:22
Have you seen that Catherine Tate
22:24
show ? What's it called ? Jenny
22:27
?
22:28
Oh , I don't remember what it's by .
22:30
I think I know what you're talking about
22:32
.
22:32
She does all the characters .
22:33
Lock up or whatever . Oh man , i
22:35
think it's called locked up , isn't it ? No
22:37
, maybe not , i don't know .
22:40
But we're not here to talk about hilarious women
22:42
doing bits right
22:45
we're here to talk about The
22:48
Oregon Territory in 1850
22:50
. The head credits
22:52
, i would like to note okay , so
22:54
this is like Lions Kate , and then
22:56
it's like Cinema Scope , and then we
22:59
cut , and then , okay , we get titles . And
23:01
I would just like it to be known that Johnny
23:03
Mercer wrote the lyrics and
23:05
that he needs to be held Accountable , even
23:07
though he's probably dead now .
23:09
I'm sorry , i'm really , i'm
23:11
, i'm . I'm being
23:13
greeted by a wonder
23:15
boy .
23:16
How see like wiggling at you .
23:18
He's like right . He's like right on the pillow
23:21
. He wants to climb up the pillow to see because
23:23
he's because he likes you .
23:25
If you all look over at Amos , you'll see his
23:27
, his expression . Oh shit , do
23:32
you guys not see ?
23:35
Tank brother is right there .
23:39
What if I just picked him up and turned him around , always
23:41
kind of turning around himself ?
23:43
put him on the pillow a . Double dog
23:45
, dare you was . He was getting on
23:47
the pillow .
23:47
Yeah , yeah , he was on the pillow .
23:49
Yeah , I don't . He doesn't really like soft things .
23:52
Feel that way about my misogyny , don't
23:55
be subtle with it .
23:57
Well , we're gonna have some after we get
24:00
through these opening credits .
24:01
Oh , fantastic , but okay , remember Johnny Mercer
24:03
. Okay we're mad at him . Oregon
24:09
Territory 1850
24:11
.
24:11
Yeah , yeah , and my first note
24:13
sexist shopping list .
24:16
Okay , did you see the elevator
24:18
eyes ? He gave that first chick he came across
24:21
.
24:21
Yeah , I had went up and down
24:23
, Which is hilarious because she
24:25
was like half his size Yeah all of them
24:27
are half his size .
24:28
He's gigantic , norma .
24:30
Yeah , he's like a redwood .
24:32
Truly is the reddest head in
24:34
the leatheriest fringy outfit I have
24:38
. you have to admit , his beard is phenomenal
24:40
, yeah but it's still like I
24:42
don't know .
24:43
I've seen better . I mean , it's not . It's not
24:45
a bad beard but , I've seen better . I
24:47
love a beard on a redhead Mm-hmm , it's
24:50
very Nordic . Hmm , yeah
24:52
me , i'm yum .
24:52
Yeah me , i'm yum . Oh , plotters
24:55
, if you hear a stop and pet a cat . That's
24:57
what happens sometimes .
24:58
Yeah , howard Keel was six foot
25:00
four .
25:02
Yeah , he towered over all of us so it makes
25:04
sense why he would be your brother , because
25:07
he would .
25:07
He's like Here's the problem , as you refer to
25:09
them as my brother , because
25:12
what we're saying is the dude
25:14
, i'd want a snog , okay
25:17
but when you say it's my brother , i think of Abraham
25:19
, whom I love dearly , but I do
25:21
not want to snog .
25:22
Okay , so it makes sense why Adam would
25:25
be the guy you want to snog . Yeah , yeah
25:27
, yeah , because he's like four inches
25:29
taller than you .
25:31
Yeah , yeah , i don't think I've ever kissed
25:33
anybody taller than me . Not like
25:35
that .
25:37
Yeah , but I've like kissed you on a stair .
25:43
Jen , for your birthday , i'll get you some platform boots
25:45
.
25:46
No , i like my police . Petite little
25:48
little woman , i like that . You
25:50
tiny . I'm the redwood to
25:52
you . Jen is the Millie to
25:55
your Adam . Yeah , okay , i'm
25:57
a sexist piece of shit
25:59
, and Jen is my petite tiny
26:02
lady bird , yeah .
26:03
So the , the guy that we're talking
26:05
about right now . This is the one of
26:07
the main characters name is Adam . He
26:10
has friend , he's got this
26:12
like super like
26:14
, like like frontier
26:16
outfit complete with like this
26:18
leathery fringe that's just
26:20
everywhere , and He
26:23
goes into a store and
26:25
he is trading in some stuff
26:28
Like $60 worth
26:30
of stuff that I don't really remember because
26:32
it's little it's leather .
26:33
It's leather or first .
26:35
Yeah . and so he's like saying well , trade you for
26:37
, you know , a plow and some lard
26:39
, and you got a woman underneath that counter And
26:42
I'm like I've come for a wife , yeah
26:44
, oh , and also like there's
26:46
like copious amounts of calling women
26:49
females in this movie Yes oh .
26:52
It's like no , no , we don't refer to
26:54
that . Okay , and the reason of plotters , if you
26:56
don't know ? and we don't refer to women as females
26:59
? because we are not scientifically Classing
27:01
them and turning them into
27:03
lesser creatures , right , which
27:06
which is something that really disturbs me . When
27:08
Watching like police shows , i'm
27:11
like that's a woman . Mm-hmm
27:14
, yeah , i was a female , a
27:16
female , so you can shoot it and like document
27:18
it , like put your data on it . No
27:20
, i'm good , put it away for
27:22
for more about Me
27:25
renting out female anything's
27:27
. Go to any of our other episodes
27:29
.
27:29
Mm-hmm .
27:30
Yes , a frequent problem for me .
27:33
And so he's like I'm
27:35
going to find me a woman
27:37
and She
27:39
needs to be pretty fresh and
27:41
young . Yeah , there's like four , four
27:43
women who come into the store
27:46
And he's like this
27:48
, this is , this is this is this is
27:50
what I did with my time on our second
27:52
viewing . I made a list of
27:54
things that make me say gross , and
27:57
And the first thing
27:59
is is the one where you wouldn't
28:01
have a wife under that counter , would
28:03
you ? and I'm like no , gross , gross
28:05
. The second thing , which is in this exact
28:08
same scene , he specifically says
28:10
you're all pretty fresh and young
28:12
, and I'm like no , no , no .
28:16
No wives under here , but there is a prostitute
28:18
doing something pretty nice to me . Sex
28:21
worker honey . Yes .
28:23
Yes .
28:23
I'm .
28:27
Ted , are you feeling uncomfortable
28:29
? No , because
28:32
feel free to move wonder boy
28:34
whenever you need .
28:35
Okay , i'll just turn him around anytime it comes
28:37
near , but he certainly does
28:39
seem to make his way back over here .
28:41
He really likes you . He thinks
28:43
you're pretty fresh .
28:47
Yeah , the problem
28:50
is not that he finds these women attractive
28:52
. The problem is that he's like objectifying
28:55
them and Minimizing their
28:57
humanness . He is looking at a quantity
29:00
, not a human .
29:02
He's looking at women in
29:04
relationship to himself Ie
29:06
, he wants a woman who can be his wife
29:08
instead of realizing
29:10
that these women are autonomous creatures
29:13
who are allowed to make a choice
29:15
, because Something that they mentioned
29:17
in the scene is that there are five
29:19
women to there's five men to one
29:21
woman . So he got a . Really . You got to
29:23
really really work it . Basically
29:26
, you got to work it be an attractive .
29:28
Yeah , that's . That's the only
29:30
reason I think he lands Millie is because he's hot
29:32
like yeah . He certainly doesn't do anything
29:34
worthy of like Elevator eyes in
29:37
his direction , except for looking kind of good there
29:39
.
29:39
There are a couple of times where he does
29:41
get a little like poetic
29:43
.
29:44
I mean we'll get there , we'll get there , we'll get there Yeah
29:46
.
29:46
Yeah , but my other note is this guy's
29:49
Tinder profile will make me want to become a nun
29:51
.
29:52
He's holding a fish . He's
29:54
like I'll go . Some fatties need
29:56
not apply .
29:58
No cross-eyed females , no
30:04
so , while
30:07
this musical number is going on , he's
30:10
like talking about all the things that he doesn't
30:12
want in a woman and He's
30:14
starting to hit on him and they keep like Going
30:16
away .
30:17
Yeah , he hits on a man kid . At one point
30:19
he turns to one girl is like you
30:21
ever think about getting married ? and Dude
30:24
behind him is like on the other side of
30:26
her is like , yeah , have you ever thought about getting married
30:28
? I never thought you'd ask . He
30:30
, like clock blocked himself . Pretty
30:34
good , i said clock .
30:36
You did . I wasn't sure if you meant
30:39
to say clock and we're gonna correct
30:41
yourself . So I was prepping for you to correct
30:43
yourself , but clock block works .
30:46
There you go , that's for
30:48
you . Okay
30:51
. So he spies . Who
30:54
will ? we will come to know , is Millie chopping
30:56
wood and she's doing the
30:58
posture bad . She is like
31:00
throwing herself over like chopping
31:02
wood . Nobody in this movie knows
31:04
how to chop wood at all .
31:06
It's like they're not part of the Oregon territory
31:08
in 1850 .
31:11
Her form is particularly bad and he's
31:13
like Huppa-duh
31:18
, Huppa-duh , Huppa-duh Oh .
31:26
He finishes off . He
31:28
finishes off the musical number by
31:30
going inside to the , the
31:33
saloon where Millie works as
31:35
a cook . I think they call it the inn , but it
31:37
is a restaurant bar situation
31:39
as soon as he goes in , you hear one of those bling
31:41
bling , bling , bling , bling , bling like
31:43
little musical instruments where it's just one
31:46
string Okay very
31:48
red neck sounding .
31:49
Yeah So well , they only could afford
31:51
one string out there and it was hard to
31:53
come by . You had to kill the cat yourself
31:56
or whatever .
31:57
Cat strings , that's a thing . Yeah , they
31:59
would say cat intestines . So
32:02
glad we live in the future .
32:04
Okay . So he's all like the guys
32:06
like What can I get
32:08
for you's ?
32:09
like just a second , i gotta I should have something
32:11
to eat first , cuz she's ladling out stew
32:13
and She's
32:15
ladling out to this whole Table
32:18
full of guys and she's just
32:20
like , like they're like talking about oh , you're gonna
32:22
marry me , right , millie ? She was just sort
32:25
of like what would your wife say about that
32:27
? Yeah , and then
32:29
Adam sits down and as soon as Millie sees
32:31
him , she like is ladling into
32:34
a guy's lap .
32:35
Yeah , yeah , she's like oh , I'm sorry
32:37
, it's all right , millie . Yeah , it's like if
32:39
someone's hot , they're allowed to hurt you
32:42
and yeah , not get mad about it . Then
32:44
he comes , he comes , she comes
32:46
over to him and lays little , like very
32:48
thoughtfully , into his bowl and he's like Smells
32:52
good enough to eat and she's like tastes
32:54
pretty good . I'm told Yeah
32:57
, and then
32:59
like she walks away . He takes a bite and he's like good
33:02
, yeah . And then like
33:05
she walks away but she's like looking back at him . I'm
33:07
just looking like moon-eyed
33:09
is a phrase that are should be
33:11
in my notes more often than it is , because it's just over
33:14
and over and over again Mm-hmm , and . And
33:16
then we're that's , we're done with that scene . And
33:18
then she's milk and a cow . My
33:20
notes say milk .
33:21
Interrupting milking A cow is rude so
33:24
I Want to make
33:27
a small note on
33:29
the whole like . For
33:31
me It feels so surface
33:34
for someone to fall for somebody
33:36
over just their , their cooking
33:38
ability , but that's pretty much
33:41
how we landed each other .
33:43
Yeah , Jen was planning on breaking up with me , but
33:45
then I made her some spaghetti .
33:49
Yeah , but you guys had known each other
33:51
like for more than a day right
33:54
, yeah . Yeah so there you go .
33:56
I made a comment on him approaching
33:58
her while she was milking . Yeah , I
34:00
.
34:03
That's Amos going ew .
34:08
Saying you would make an
34:11
utterly fantastic wife
34:13
. Boo , sorry .
34:20
I mean , if Sean would have left , he's probably
34:22
laughing now .
34:23
I mean I laughed . I thought that was a great pun
34:25
.
34:26
So he leans over this cow . He's just like look , here's
34:29
how it would go down . I'd
34:32
like say hi to you . In like six months
34:34
I'd ask for you to go for a walk with me . I
34:36
might touch your hand .
34:37
Why don't we skip that and get married And she's all
34:39
like he specifically says I
34:41
got to go back up and plow for the , for
34:44
the harvest , or like
34:46
I got to plow the field for something
34:48
And I'm not going to be back down
34:50
here for 10 months , which is kind of
34:52
like BS Cause later on
34:54
, you know , millie comes down like a
34:56
few times anyways , but
34:59
he's like you're not going to make me wait that long
35:01
, are you ? And I was like , look , if
35:03
I have to make a decision right now , i'm
35:05
going to have to say no . Also , my
35:07
note was uh , don't fall for an average
35:09
looking man , millie , which you are
35:12
allowed to hate me for that comment .
35:14
I know he , he , he does do that to
35:16
himself in about one scene . So don't don't
35:18
feel bad .
35:19
So I love the YouTube
35:21
series . hell of a boss , and there's a character
35:24
in there named Millie , and so
35:26
my next note was she
35:28
deserves a small musical loving imp , i
35:30
think .
35:31
I think of , um , I think of
35:33
Millie and Moksy . Okay , So
35:35
, uh , I love hell of a boss . I am an uh
35:38
, I'm a Blitzow . Who , who
35:40
, who made ? who married to Stolis , but
35:42
on more whimsical days , I think
35:44
of us as Molly and Millie .
35:46
Yeah , I , i , oh , my good , I always
35:48
like to say Uh , on
35:50
, uh . I like to say that on my good days I'm
35:52
a Moksy , on my bad days I'm a Blitz
35:54
.
35:55
Yes , Uh , that's where . that's where we
35:57
meet at our fellow Blitzness
35:59
.
35:59
Yeah .
36:00
Which again like an absurdly bad
36:03
character . But he's so like
36:05
I , so much like
36:07
me in my head
36:10
like , like the self-destructive tendencies . Yeah
36:12
, he walks around and he's like , oh , f*** me , like
36:15
that's me every day .
36:17
So we were talking about , uh , a 1950s
36:20
musical , a good Christian movie
36:22
.
36:23
It's what we're talking about right now , not talking about You're
36:25
talking about satanic imps , horny
36:28
satanic imps . Get it right .
36:31
Are you sure that's not this movie
36:33
? Okay ?
36:37
All right . So
36:40
she's like , sure , why not ? And
36:43
he walks into a barber shop where
36:45
he promptly shaves off his beard
36:47
, but not the mustache , but
36:50
not the mustache , which I
36:52
think would have been a mistake , but like it's still
36:54
not great , he should have kept the beard . She
36:56
liked you with the beard , imagine . I
36:58
mean , i don't know , like I don't
37:00
, i don't have an irrational feelings
37:03
about this , but it is literally a thing for
37:05
a dude to change his appearance without consulting
37:08
his significant other first .
37:10
And she is essentially is SO at this point
37:12
.
37:12
Yeah , They , they , they've just
37:14
met . It is not a time for drastic
37:16
changes like getting married
37:19
on the day you meet someone .
37:22
So what you're saying is this is when the science breaks
37:24
down , for you .
37:25
It really does Like if , if
37:27
I was , if Jen and I were getting married again
37:29
, and like , cause I
37:31
dream about , about us renewing our vows
37:33
, and like if I walked in and
37:35
you had like a short bob without
37:38
talking to me first , i
37:40
would be Yeah And
37:43
I know , that's a . That is a hypocrisy
37:46
, because you've walked in and I've had like purple
37:48
hair Right , like
37:50
you're very chill about it , but I'd be like , and
37:52
we weren't going to discuss , like , just
37:55
terrible terrible .
37:56
Yeah , i keep reading articles that , like
37:58
trans women , can appear
38:01
more effeminate by having bangs
38:03
And I'm like resist , don't
38:06
do it .
38:06
Resist , jen . No , you
38:10
got straight enough hair for it . I don't want to still
38:12
think it would suit . We can . We can pretend
38:14
we can get a little clip and see if it would work .
38:16
No , that little face app that I have .
38:18
Oh yeah , And it's not good .
38:21
I'm glad I have that app , because there's just
38:24
so many things that I would try . I
38:28
know what I would .
38:29
Yeah , i walked
38:31
, so you could run Sorry
38:33
.
38:34
Sorry , who are we talking about ? musicals
38:37
? the second tangent
38:40
.
38:40
You thought I was mighty chauvinist
38:42
. You thought I was mighty chauvinist before , but
38:44
now I've shaved , so I'm obviously
38:47
not that chauvinist pig anymore , because
38:49
I've only got a mustache . But
38:51
he's still in like a sweaty leather suit
38:53
.
38:55
He was just smelled so bad
38:57
. But
38:59
then they find the preacher who apparently was
39:01
taking care of Millie after her parents
39:04
died . She had like a tragic backstory
39:06
. And then he's all like no . And
39:09
then his daughter Alice is like oh , it's so romantic
39:11
. And he's like , are you set on this ? And
39:13
she goes I am . And he's like all right
39:15
, he goes . Actually he's all like , okay
39:19
, i'm thoroughly against this marriage
39:21
. All right . I'll perform the ceremony
39:24
, do you ?
39:24
Yes , yes , And
39:27
we have conveniently left out the
39:29
brothers . Yes , and
39:31
like it's first seen , adam's
39:33
like oh , it's just me and my brothers up there
39:35
at the cabin and be really good to have a wife
39:38
who could cook and clean and do
39:40
all those womeny things And again
39:42
like gross . But he
39:44
does not bring it up to Millie at all .
39:47
And so they're doing a 12
39:49
mile journey , which has got to be
39:51
like in today's horse
39:53
miles 12
39:56
hours .
39:57
I mean it's probably like like the better part
39:59
of three miles , 12 miles
40:01
Yeah . So like if you think a horse is
40:03
like four times as fast , so maybe it's like three hours
40:05
.
40:06
Yeah , yeah , probably , i don't know
40:08
. My
40:10
maps app doesn't do horse miles .
40:12
I think , i think , uh , what is it like ? a
40:14
horse and cart ? and DND is
40:16
, like you know , five times faster
40:18
than if you're walking by by foot .
40:22
It's not really roads either .
40:24
Right , so they can't go super fast .
40:26
And they have to go through a pass , so they're obviously gaining
40:28
a lot of elevation , we
40:30
assume , Man , I kind of get up to
40:32
where that snow is . But she's waxing
40:35
on .
40:36
She's like uh , after the
40:38
, after they get married , they head on up to
40:40
his cabin and she's like
40:42
I was thinking about .
40:44
It might be awfully lonely , not working at the end
40:46
anymore , but I could stand to be a little lonely
40:48
.
40:49
Yeah , There's . I'm not going to have to cook and
40:51
clean for all those men .
40:52
That's such a good thing . And
40:55
then she sings about how much she
40:57
doesn't want to be with all those
40:59
people and how in love because
41:01
it's been up two hours , i guess
41:03
, and like she's
41:06
, like I can't , even I can't fake the song
41:08
sounds when I'm not actually watching
41:11
it , if
41:15
it's really , or The hills are
41:17
a blive with the fact
41:20
that I'm with only one man
41:22
here , only
41:25
one dude I have to put up
41:27
with .
41:29
And like the what's interesting is before this musical
41:31
number . like Adam is like , uh , yeah
41:34
, i might need to go ahead and kind
41:36
of clarify some things And he leans
41:39
in to tell her , while she's picking her wedding
41:41
bouquet of , of herb she's going
41:43
to make soup with .
41:45
I don't know , i don't know . No , it's not
41:47
that , that's tiny flowers , tiny
41:49
flower stems . Demons , demons
41:51
, staples , staples
41:55
, demons . Sean
41:58
, yell it to me on the factory floor . Okay , so
42:01
um , they'll be , they'll be
42:03
, they'll be , they're called statements
42:05
Okay , um
42:08
, so he , he falls back
42:10
and he just can't tell her , for whatever
42:12
reason . So let's pull into the farm
42:15
.
42:15
Yep And uh , as
42:17
, as she gets down , she's looking around
42:19
and is like , Oh , this looks really nice . And
42:22
then , lo and behold , there is a brother right behind
42:24
her . She's like , Oh , okay .
42:26
Okay , this is where my notes go . She's
42:28
so , and
42:31
.
42:32
And then , as you say , yeah , i like
42:34
, like after after the introduction
42:37
of all of these brothers showing up , i would
42:39
have been like I think I'm going to brave the wilderness rather
42:41
than stay .
42:42
Yeah , He starts bringing out all of these red heads
42:44
and I'm like that's too many red heads . And
42:47
you like red heads ?
42:49
for a parent , yeah , yeah , and
42:53
so , uh , like , the introduction to the brothers is
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very much like these are all of their names
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and they're all Bible names , and and
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then there's there's Frank , and she's like I
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don't remember a Frank in the Bible , is like , oh
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well , that was because he was called
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frank and says , cause it smelled so sweet
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and he's real sensitive about his name .
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So he starts fighting And , yeah , they all start
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brawling around her as Adam
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introduces her to her life of drudgery
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. He's not like . She's like Oh , it's really big
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and messy . And he's like , yeah , but now that you're here
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and my notes go .
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Thanks , a plotter , for joining us for part
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one of our review of 1954's
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musical classic seven brides for
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seven brothers . We've still got
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two parts left and we've definitely
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got a lot more to discuss in our plot walkthrough
43:37
, sean facts and , of course
43:39
, our shocked and applaudable moments . Hey
43:42
, this is your audio engineer
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and bride of a bride , jen
43:47
. As you've heard , we're
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taking a break for a while after this month's
43:51
episode . If you're an official
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, a plotter on Patreon , we'll be sending
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you some additional details shortly with
43:58
a thank you for all of the support you've given us
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over the nearly five years of this show
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. We've made our time together
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such a wonderful adventure . We'll
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return next week for part two of our review
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of this fifties musical comedy From
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shocked and applaud . thank you for
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patroning the peculiar .
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