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Erin SANNAVAL IS THE PERSON THAT
2:05
YOU COULD MEET ON THE street and say,
2:07
wow, she seems like a really nice person.
2:11
She had the type
2:12
of upbringing that
2:14
millions of people have had before.
2:19
She dated. She fell in
2:21
love.
2:22
There's nothing quite like that first
2:25
thrill of love. She was
2:27
so into Daniel. The first time
2:29
she spoke about him, she was just like, cold
2:31
color of his eyes and then he was
2:34
so nice to her. She
2:36
was just in heaven. Erica
2:38
always wanted to just have a stable
2:40
relationship, have children. It
2:42
is unquestionably one of the most
2:44
intense, profound emotions
2:46
a person can feel. when
2:48
everything was going the way they
2:51
should be in her eyes, she was
2:53
pleasant to be around. It's only
2:55
when things didn't go her way that
2:57
she became nasty and and things got ugly
2:59
between the two of them.
3:00
But when intense love
3:03
slips into
3:03
hate, It
3:05
can lead to violence.
3:06
And from what
3:08
I saw, the bad was
3:10
really bad. She had cut up the
3:12
couch and she had cut up the bed springs
3:15
and stabbed holes in the wall
3:17
and, you know, taking a bottle of pancake
3:19
syrup and just spread it all over carpet. Just
3:22
a ridiculous amount of vandalism
3:25
or even Murder. On
3:28
February sixth two thousand fifteen, in
3:30
the mid afternoon, time stood still in
3:32
Telaria County when we in the
3:34
law enforcement community came to find
3:36
out that Daniel was
3:38
executed that afternoon in
3:41
the sanctity and privacy of his own home.
3:43
I'm Moriarty, forty eight
3:46
hours and this is
3:48
my life of
3:48
crime.
3:52
There's
3:52
a reason why cops investigating murders
3:55
look first at the person closest
3:57
to the victim. I mean, who
3:59
else feels so intensely
4:02
that they would risk
4:03
everything to hurt another person.
4:06
The Daniel Green case may change
4:08
the way you look at domestic use,
4:10
what you think it is, who
4:12
you think commits abuse, and
4:15
whether the legal system treats
4:17
all abusers the same.
4:19
We begin on that
4:20
awful afternoon in February
4:22
two thousand fifteen. The
4:24
day when thirty one year old Daniel
4:26
Green was found shot to death in his own
4:29
bathroom in the town of
4:31
Goshen, California. He
4:33
was executed. Here's a man who
4:35
was literally on the
4:37
toilet. when he was shot.
4:39
That's the district attorney for Telaria
4:42
county, Tim Ward. He
4:44
was still angry when I spoke to him about
4:46
a case because Daniel Green
4:48
wasn't just a young man senselessly
4:51
murdered. He
4:52
was also a cop, an eleven
4:54
year veteran.
4:54
OF THE EXCIDER POLICE
4:57
DEPARTMENT.
4:58
THIS CRIME WHEN THIS HAPPEN REALLY
5:00
RIPPED APART, NOT ONLY THIS SMALL
5:03
TOWN THAT HE WAS FROM AND WAS police
5:05
officer in, but kind of the law enforcement community
5:07
as well.
5:08
And because Daniel was a cop who had
5:10
dealings
5:11
with local gangs,
5:12
Investigators at first veered his
5:15
death might be connected to his job.
5:17
The killer had fired four bullets
5:20
at green. the fatal shot
5:22
hitting him in the forehead. He
5:24
was found lying on his back in the
5:26
bathtub.
5:26
One of his fellow officers
5:28
is the one that discovered him back Daniel
5:31
being a cop.
5:32
Alex Geyser was the fellow officer
5:34
who found him.
5:35
We love getting out into the community and
5:37
making a difference. So on the day of the
5:40
Daniel was supposed to come into
5:42
work right before me.
5:44
When I got to the police station, I
5:46
asked the lieutenant where wise
5:50
that you get this gut feeling that
5:53
something's wrong, that
5:55
something bad was happening, Daniel's
5:58
home was just yards from his neighbors,
5:59
but because he was shot in
6:01
the day, many of them were at
6:03
work. So no one heard the shots
6:06
or called 911 Know
6:08
why witnesses saw the killer enter
6:11
or leave the house. and the
6:13
killer fled with the murder weapon.
6:15
Matt calls me and
6:16
I've never heard mott's voice like
6:19
this. And he says, hey,
6:21
and I said what's going on and
6:24
can't really get it out. Daniel's
6:27
sister, Misty Gray, first
6:30
heard the news from her other brother,
6:32
Daniel's twin brother,
6:34
his identical
6:35
twin brother, Matt. I
6:37
can't say anything. it
6:39
was like he there were no words.
6:42
And
6:42
he said And you knew? I said just
6:44
to help me, Daniel,
6:48
Just tell me he's okay.
6:51
And that's what I can't. I happen to
6:54
be a twin myself. and I'm not
6:56
sure I have ever seen two brothers
6:58
who looked so much alike
7:00
Erin Matt had trouble pointing out
7:02
to me. Who was whom
7:04
in photos? Who were kind of like a
7:06
team? It was the three of us
7:08
against the world type of thing. They had
7:10
grown up In the nearby small town
7:12
of Porterville, California, both
7:15
brothers became police officers. Although
7:17
Matt later traded law enforcement
7:20
for law school.
7:21
I always thought it was neat that
7:23
my my big brothers
7:25
who were twins were
7:28
both police officers at the same time, and
7:31
I actually have the same photo
7:33
of the two of them. And I
7:35
cherish it.
7:35
And Daniel, was gone.
7:38
We
7:38
will never be the same.
7:42
Never.
7:42
My life will
7:44
forever be changed by this.
7:50
That's to sound in the spell.
7:52
Was his death connected to his job?
7:54
Daniel did have a reputation as
7:56
a hard nosed by the book hop.
7:59
But that theory
7:59
didn't lead investigators anywhere,
8:02
so they took a closer look at
8:04
Daniel's personal life. At
8:07
the time of his death, Daniel Green was
8:09
divorced and living alone. But
8:11
at one time, he had had a very
8:13
passionate and often tumultuous relationship
8:16
with Erica Sandoval,
8:19
his ex wife.
8:21
Hours after Daniel was found dead,
8:23
Erica rushed to the scene,
8:25
teary eyed and distraught. She
8:27
told police that she hadn't seen
8:29
Daniel that day, and Daniel's
8:31
brother, Matt, believed her.
8:33
If it had been years earlier, I think I
8:35
would have automatically assumed it was her,
8:38
but we just seen them together, you know,
8:40
a month before and
8:42
it didn't seem like there was any tension,
8:44
so I just didn't know. I didn't
8:46
know what had happened.
8:48
Daniel had met his future wife's six
8:51
years earlier in two thousand nine,
8:53
and he fell hard.
8:55
I
8:55
think he loved her. In his
8:58
way,
8:58
he wanted the family. he
9:00
wanted so desperately to have a
9:02
family. Now it was married.
9:05
By then, I was married and he was
9:07
the only one that was not. he
9:08
was, you know, infatuated with her.
9:10
And Erica was
9:11
just as infatuated with
9:13
him. Take a little girl, like, you know, when they
9:15
get cat being super
9:17
excited. She was so
9:19
into Daniel. Was
9:21
she? She was. That's
9:23
Angelica
9:23
Ramirez, one Erin close
9:26
friends from childhood. But the
9:28
two came from very different backgrounds.
9:31
Daniel
9:31
and his siblings had a
9:33
tough childhood. while Erica was
9:35
from a close knit middle class
9:38
family from Southern California.
9:39
poor yeah David
9:41
is her older brother. she
9:43
wanted her to find the right guy and
9:45
then obviously start having a
9:47
family.
9:47
Still, everyone was
9:50
surprised when Daniel and Erica
9:52
skipped a traditional wedding and got
9:54
married in Las Vegas. Daniel
9:56
was twenty six,
9:58
Erin, twenty three. I
10:00
getting a text message at
10:02
ten o'clock at night. Yeah.
10:04
It's a picture of a marriage
10:05
license in Vegas. And some
10:07
of Daniel's friends, especially
10:09
from
10:09
a local motorcycle club,
10:11
were
10:12
downright concerned. Few
10:14
things
10:14
happened before they even actually
10:17
got married. And I pulled Daniel
10:19
aside and I said, dude, don't marry this chick.
10:21
That's herb out of me.
10:22
Tell me why. What what happened that
10:25
made you say that? It
10:26
was the it was all the
10:29
the incidents at the house. Herb
10:31
says that Daniel had talked about
10:33
Erica's anger. Eith said
10:35
that she had once cut up
10:36
furniture with a razor blade.
10:39
Daniel's brother
10:40
said that he had heard Daniel crying
10:42
after Erica laced into
10:45
him. It devastated me to hear my
10:47
brother crying and to hear the
10:49
way that she was talking to him, it broke
10:51
my heart.
10:51
Erica was trying to
10:54
create a rift in the
10:56
family
10:57
between us. Do
10:58
you use sister and brother said that he
11:00
might have thought that kind of behavior
11:02
was perfectly normal
11:04
because they'd grown up in a
11:06
troubled home with an abusive stepfather.
11:09
Alcohol.
11:09
Drugs, alcohol, abuse,
11:12
stuff like that. Were any of
11:14
you abused? to physical
11:16
abuse -- Yeah. -- being some neglecting
11:18
stuff. Would your stepfather hit
11:19
you -- Yeah. -- with
11:22
with his hand or with his belt?
11:25
board. there
11:27
What
11:27
I guess whatever was laying around?
11:29
Their
11:29
stepfather had a long criminal record
11:32
that included arrest for assault
11:34
domestic violence,
11:35
and driving under the influence.
11:37
And Misty says, her
11:39
older twin brothers to
11:41
the brunt for her. Matthew and
11:43
Daniel always protected me. They would get in
11:45
between my
11:46
septide trying to physically harm
11:48
us and When
11:51
I would get scared, I would
11:53
go crawling out of my brother's. Their
11:55
mother at one point did get a restraining
11:56
order against their stepfather
11:58
who is now
11:59
dead. But
12:01
now they worried that the domestic
12:03
abuse that they all endured as
12:05
children
12:06
seemed to be repeating itself
12:08
with Daniel and Erica. in
12:10
the case of my brother, he was the
12:12
one constantly being controlled and
12:15
and isolated and, you know,
12:17
verbally and emotionally abused. As a
12:18
officer, he would probably run into
12:21
women who were being abused, would he
12:23
not recognize himself in
12:25
that same situation?
12:26
I think he did. He just probably felt
12:30
like he had nothing he could do about it, then
12:32
he was maybe trapped in a cycle.
12:34
We don't hear about male victims often,
12:36
maybe because men like Daniel don't
12:38
want to admit they are being abused.
12:40
And in
12:41
fact, it's not as rare as
12:44
you might think. I think men
12:46
don't come forward for many of the same
12:48
reasons that women come forward
12:50
when they are experiencing domestic
12:52
violence. Hating Meter runs the
12:54
Telaria family services in
12:56
the county. And
12:56
she says that she actually had to expand
12:59
the women's shelter
13:00
to include rooms for men
13:02
who were
13:03
also fleeing abuse.
13:05
Erica would cut up
13:07
mattresses and couches.
13:09
Is that domestic abuse?
13:12
Absolutely. Property damage is
13:14
very common. Female Vic symptoms. They
13:16
will often describe, well, well, my partner
13:18
never hit me, but
13:20
he did punch a hole in the wall. And
13:22
so there's this threat of physical go violence.
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If I can do this to your
13:26
property, if I can do this to the things that
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Domestic abuse isn't always
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black and white. If Daniel thought
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violence was normal in a relationship,
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then it might explain some of his
14:27
own behavior. You will
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model
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relationships that have been for
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you. Angelica
14:32
Ramirez says that Erica had said
14:35
that Daniel was also abusive.
14:37
She
14:37
would told me constantly that he would grab her
14:39
and choke her. she told
14:40
me, hey, choked her and then she felt
14:43
like she was gonna pass out. Once
14:44
again, Daniel's sister,
14:47
Misty. It was a very toxic relationship.
14:49
People should
14:49
absolutely know and understand
14:52
that it doesn't matter if you're a man or a
14:54
woman, you're five foot or six, but
14:56
you can be a victim of
14:57
domestic violence. Matt
15:00
did you ever tell Daniel to leave?
15:02
Of course, a lot. A lot.
15:04
Yeah. He knew it was bad. People
15:06
don't change. She's not gonna change.
15:08
That's not what happens. There
15:10
was one more violent episode in
15:12
February twenty eleven
15:14
when the police were called. neither
15:17
Daniel nor Erica were
15:19
arrested, but it was the last
15:21
straw. The marriage was
15:23
officially over in January
15:25
two thousand twelve. a little more
15:27
than a year after it began. Well,
15:29
I remember thinking he he escaped this
15:31
without, you know, anything terrible happening.
15:34
and that maybe he could get
15:36
peace and be happy.
15:38
But then, a
15:40
news that Erin was pregnant
15:42
with Daniel's child I
15:43
was like, jeez. He stuck
15:45
with her for eighteen years. Erica
15:48
moved back in with Daniel and
15:49
they tried to make it work. But
15:51
Daniel's motorcycle seemed to
15:53
come between them. She hated that
15:55
motorcycle. Yep. despised
15:57
it. You know, he didn't get on his bike and he'd take
15:59
off
15:59
the and you
16:01
know, she couldn't sit next to him
16:03
in the passenger seat yelling at
16:05
him.
16:05
She hated it so much that one
16:07
of Daniel's friends
16:08
thinks She may have sabotaged
16:11
the bike one day before a ride.
16:13
Once out on the road, Daniel
16:15
was unable to stop for a
16:17
red light. And I'm like, hey, what's
16:19
going on man? You just grab all the
16:21
wires and you just pulled them
16:23
out. It was all the wires were all
16:25
cut up. And I'm like, oh
16:27
my goodness. This is crazy.
16:29
Daniel told Mark Cortez that
16:31
he believed his wife had cut
16:33
the wires. He had
16:34
no question. It was Erica.
16:36
Yeah. Erica
16:39
later admitted to a friend that
16:41
she had quote, just sniffed
16:43
wires. Still Daniel
16:46
never reported it to the
16:48
police and initially didn't even tell
16:50
his siblings. he
16:51
hit a lot of the stuff that was going on.
16:54
I think he knew that it
16:56
would upset us. Daniel and Erica's
16:59
son, Adam, was born in January.
17:01
two thousand thirteen. I don't have any
17:03
doubt that the day his son was born was the happiest
17:05
day of his life. Him having a kid
17:07
was the best thing for him. On
17:10
his Facebook, every day
17:12
it was a picture of his kid. That was his
17:14
life. That was his pride and joy.
17:16
But the couple's relationship was
17:18
just too broken. And thousand
17:20
thirteen,
17:20
Erica moved out of the house,
17:23
and their
17:23
problems only got worse.
17:26
The
17:26
couple began to engage in a
17:29
vicious
17:29
award words. Dan Chambers
17:31
is Erica's lawyer. There's a
17:33
lot of bitterness and anger throughout these text
17:36
messages. No about it. I mean,
17:38
Daniel does call Erin some
17:40
very bad names and here Erin Erica
17:42
does the same. Daniel
17:45
one, Erin pussity
17:46
of his son, which only deepened
17:48
the divisions between the two.
17:51
But
17:51
here's the really weird part
17:53
even with all the anger. all
17:55
the victory. The couple
17:57
would still occasionally
17:59
sleep
17:59
together. And yet,
18:01
the dysfunction in relationship was
18:03
always just below the surface.
18:06
Like a night in
18:06
the fall of two thousand fourteen,
18:09
when Daniel
18:09
told his friend Herb that
18:12
he awoke, to find Erin with
18:14
a gun. He
18:15
told you that she woke up,
18:18
dreamed
18:18
that he had been
18:19
with another woman and how the gun to us have.
18:21
What did she say to him at that point.
18:23
She said that she was gonna kill
18:25
him.
18:26
If he left? Yeah.
18:27
Or if he cheated on her. By the
18:30
New Year, Daniel and Daniel to have turned a
18:32
new leaf on the relationship. They were
18:34
still living apart, but
18:35
they were civil with each
18:37
other. And that's
18:38
why neither Matt nor
18:40
Misty thought she could possibly
18:42
be responsible for his
18:44
murder. that occurred one month
18:47
later. That morning, February
18:49
fifth two thousand fifteen, Daniel
18:51
Green dropped off their son,
18:53
Aiden, with Erica's mother, and then
18:55
went to the gym. It was
18:57
when he returned home
18:59
that someone shot him dead
19:01
to Lara district attorney,
19:04
Tim Ward. This was not anything
19:06
other than a cold blooded
19:08
calculated execution. The day
19:10
following
19:10
the murder, Erica was brought in
19:12
for Route team questioning, and that's
19:14
when
19:15
her stories began to shift.
19:18
Erica originally said that she hadn't been
19:20
inside
19:20
Daniels how in
19:23
weeks, but a neighbor's surveillance
19:25
camera appeared to
19:27
contradict her. The video that out
19:29
there shows a female
19:31
enter into that home.
19:34
On the very
19:34
day of the murder, you can see a
19:36
woman enter the house.
19:39
investigators couldn't ID the woman
19:41
in the video, but they tricked
19:43
Erin. And they told her they
19:45
knew it was her. That's
19:47
when she broke down and led detectives to
19:50
an empty lot where
19:52
they found the murder weapon. a
19:55
millimeter
19:55
gun. She had shot
19:58
Daniel with his own
19:59
gun. Erica
20:01
Sandoval was arrested her
20:03
first degree murder.
20:10
Two
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years ago, on the Northern Cheyenne
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reservation in Laneshare, Montana,
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Christie
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wouldn't die's family rushed to
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her home after receiving shocking news. On
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March sixth, my daughter had
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came and notified me that
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Christy was run over. I said,
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Christy, okay, and she was like, she
20:29
died. I was
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like, what? But when they arrived, there
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were no police. Where's the cops? First
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of all? Why is there no cops here?
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Because it's crime scene, you know, like, there should have been
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yellow tape. Missing justice from
20:41
CBS News takes you inside what
20:43
really happened that night, and
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the federal investigation that
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followed. We kinda
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had confidence in the police, hoping
20:50
they'd arrest him. And
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then we just, like, it was just
20:54
silence. Like, nobody came us
20:56
know anything.
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And how for years,
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a family fought for justice.
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Listen to justice from CBS News,
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get your podcasts.
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Erica Sandoval
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faced
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the death penalty for killing
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a cop who happened to be her
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ex husband, Her legal team took
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nearly five years to prepare her
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defense. But finally, in
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October two thousand nineteen, YOU IN
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ON TRIAL AND THAT'S WHEN
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PROSECUTORS REVEALED WHAT THEY
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BELIEVE WAS THE MOTIVE. Daniel
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WAS SHOP ONE WEEK after
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he posted an Instagram photo of a
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new girlfriend, twenty year old
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Brenda Vela.
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Is it possible that Daniel Gray
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would still be alive if he had never posted
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that picture on social media? That's an
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impossible question, but you'll wonder.
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It's such a tragedy that we'll never
21:50
know. Yeah. We'll never know. Still,
21:52
there is compelling evidence to
21:54
support that theory, including
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a yellow sticky note found
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in Erica's
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purse with
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Brenda Vela's name and
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birth year.
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Erica also bombarded Daniel with
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one hundred and sixty seven
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phone calls. in the days leading
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up to the murder. I think when
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Erica found out that the
22:14
girl was hanging out with her son and
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that kinda nadir snap.
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But a trial, Erica's defense
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attorney
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Dan Chambers
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tried to shift the guild away from
22:25
Erica. to
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Daniel Greene himself in essence
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putting the dead police officer
22:31
also on
22:31
trial. And at the end of the day,
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he was abusive. The
22:35
jury listened over and over
22:38
again to audiotapes of the
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couple's verbal battles, like
22:42
this one over their son,
22:44
Aiden. who was just a baby at that point.
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you know that me
22:47
don't flinch me yeah
22:51
Alright.
22:52
If you
22:54
wanna judge your And
22:56
then
22:56
Erica takes a chance and
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takes the stand in her own
23:02
defense, hoping she can convince the
23:04
jury that she was driven to take
23:06
her husband's life. It was a
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collective decision. and
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it wasn't an easy decision. At that
23:10
point, we were arguing a lot.
23:13
You're listening to Erica herself
23:15
on the stand. describing
23:17
to Jurs the abuse, she
23:19
claimed she suffered from Daniel over
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the
23:21
years. He grabbed me by
23:24
the shirt, my shirt, and he started shaking
23:26
back and forth then as he was yelling at my
23:28
face, shut the up. He's
23:30
like, you know, I could feel like you make it look like
23:32
an accident. that's
23:34
when when
23:37
he grabbed me from my ponytail,
23:39
and he saw in my head, but in the
23:41
dashboard, while I was holding it, and
23:43
he and
23:43
then she told them why she'd gone into our
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ex husband's
23:46
home on February fifth two
23:49
thousand fifteen. According to
23:50
Erica, she had just gone there to
23:53
snoop around. Saw the
23:55
kitchen window, and I
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figured I'd try to see if it was
23:59
open.
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And so I took off the screen and I
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wedged it and it was open. She walked
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through
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the house, grabbing two
24:06
of Daniel's guns, and then she
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Blames. She found an open
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safe that contained
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two photos
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depicting child pornography.
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the
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first picture I
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saw.
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It was like
24:22
a girl. She
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looked to be twelve
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thirteen. Next to
24:28
a bed. Erica's
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story took prosecutors and
24:32
investigators by surprise. because
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she had never mentioned the photographs in
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any previous statements.
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District Attorney Ward doesn't
24:41
believe her account. That
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was the very first time that we ever
24:46
had even heard that or
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anything close to that. Ward
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says
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no such photos were
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found. But on the stand, Erica
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says she left them in
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the safe.
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It's just made me think like,
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fantasies that he, like,
25:03
had with me, the
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school graph that he told me, and
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where I thought, you mean, like,
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is he watching this kind of
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stuff around me, son? What's the next thing
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you remember doing? I heard just
25:17
a truck. I was thinking about
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Aiden. I don't know if
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he's do we
25:23
accept to Aiden maybe? And
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then Erica says she heard Daniel come
25:28
home. and so she
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hid in a closet. And
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I heard
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him coming down the hallway.
25:35
passing by the room.
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Scared. I didn't know
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where he
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was going. And when she heard him
25:42
go into the bathroom, Erica
25:44
told the jury, she just
25:47
snapped.
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I stepped out
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of the closet. I stepped out of
25:50
the apartments room and I
25:53
stood right there in front of the panel. He was in the
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toilet. As soon as he
25:58
saw me. Okay.
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kill you. And
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he
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started getting up. And then
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the third weight is in my arm.
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Then you shot. I
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didn't
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know
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how many times they just got.
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I only shot. Can
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you regret what she did? Clearly,
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regret it. everyday.
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nation Sorry.
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Good
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at everything. Has
26:34
it cost you?
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my son. My
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family. And
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Erica sticks to her story about
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the photos. Even when cross examined
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by the assistant DA, David
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Alabasos,
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who clearly doesn't believe
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it. You know they're not in the so
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you just expected that they're magically short.
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No.
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I advised my attorney as to what
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I saw. and
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no vacuums? No. Just
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my attorney.
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Erica says that she deliberately kept the
27:08
information
27:08
from investigators.
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hadn't trust them. They've
27:13
never given me a reason to trust
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them. Daniel always told me
27:17
how they always had
27:19
each other's backs. She never
27:21
loses her cool. But Al
27:23
Aviso makes it clear for the
27:25
jury what he thinks of her
27:26
story. That's a
27:29
disgusting lie.
27:32
To make you feel Daniel's not
27:34
worth a
27:35
murder, you're gonna charge to
27:39
devalue
27:39
him as a human
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being. That is
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the sole
27:44
purpose of it. But
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what will the jury do with the information? Will
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they
27:48
believe Erica? Will they
27:50
feel sorry for her and find her guilty
27:52
of something less? than
27:54
first degree murder.
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In his
27:57
closing arguments, Erica's
27:59
attorney Dan Chambers puts the blame
28:02
on both Erica and
28:03
Daniel tied together,
28:05
he says, by a traumatic
28:08
bond
28:08
that is difficult
28:09
to understand. Both are
28:11
victims and both are aggressors. On
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November twentieth
28:15
two thousand nineteen, the
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case went to the jury.
28:20
After four long days
28:22
of deliberations, they tell
28:24
the trial judge
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they're done.
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they are hopelessly deadlocked.
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A mistrial. deadlocked
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eleven to one
28:38
with one single jur
28:41
refusing to convict Erin
28:43
in the first degree.
28:45
Three of
28:46
the jurors agreed to discuss
28:48
that pulled
28:48
out cure. It
28:51
came evident that after
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day after hour after hour that
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we she wasn't going to waver
28:58
and and the reality
29:00
of a hung jury start to sink
29:02
in. And she just never gave much
29:04
reasoning behind why she felt the way she
29:06
did. Tensions just got high and they started yelling
29:08
at each other and it they
29:10
were getting emotionally involved. The
29:12
one juror refused to
29:15
budge even as her fellow
29:17
jurors raised doubts about Erica's
29:19
story about finding
29:20
that child born. There was
29:22
never any picture that we saw. You can tell she
29:24
obviously lied on the stand, and I
29:26
think a lot of the trial was spent
29:28
by the defense. not
29:32
defending
29:32
her, but rather
29:34
attacking Daniel. I think
29:37
every juror had empathy for
29:39
her. They also
29:41
had empathy for him.
29:44
We saw just how
29:46
they did feel for forceful
29:49
that she was towards him.
29:52
And why is
29:54
she still staying there? Why is he
29:55
still staying there? These
29:58
are the same questions we
29:59
all have. Why were
30:02
Daniel and Erica still sleeping
30:04
together? Could anyone have intervened?
30:06
Erica
30:08
is alive, but she's lost everything.
30:11
She's lost her son, her freedom,
30:13
her future. Although
30:15
she wasn't convicted this time
30:17
around, she will remain in prison
30:20
until she's tried again for the first
30:22
degree murder. of the man she
30:24
says, she once loved.
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It's devastating. There's a
30:33
hole that'll
30:35
never be filled. It'll
30:38
never heal ever.
30:39
ever Daniel's
30:41
son, Aidan, is almost
30:43
ten, and is now living with a
30:45
man who is the spitting image
30:47
of his dad,
30:49
that Matt. You're
30:50
raising Daniel's son. Was that a
30:52
tough decision? No. I
30:53
don't know. At least that I could
30:55
do is make sure that
30:58
he knew How much
31:00
his father loved him? I'm
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governors, then it sinks to life. The
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