May you feel joy and peace this holiday season.

Shannon is joined by NYT best-selling author, Pastor Max Lucado for a conversation about his latest movie, Because Of Bethlehem.Pastor Lucado reflects on the story of Bethlehem and finds parallels within the troubling times of today. He explains how amidst such darkness, God brought a miracle that saved humanity, and encourages listeners to find hope during the holiday season. 

Later, Pastor Lucado and Shannon discuss why the season of Christmas is so special to them.Follow Shannon on Twitter: @ShannonBreamLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices