Cooking With Grief is the comedy podcast that covers everything from history to science, pop culture to geography, and everything in between. This week we're joined by Waffles (of Waffles and Mario Talk About Things podcast) for a special (mostly) Aotearoa New Zealand themed episode as we learn about the sexy saxophone music Kiwi conservationists use to get Kakapos to mate, how the most important hill in New Zealand is actually in Turkey (and how the Maori Battalion was the only successful unit at Gallipoli), and finally about Westward Ho! (not in New Zealand) and other unusual place names.

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Waffles can be found on Twitter @Waffles_Mario and you can listen to Waffles and Mario Talk About Things podcast here: https://www.necropodicon.com/wamtatbio

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