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All right, everybody, happy Tuesday. At least
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I'm very happy today because we've been
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trending all day on X, given the
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interview that I gave with Rabbi
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Barclay yesterday. A lot of you
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guys have so many comments regarding
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that back and forth. And one
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of the questions that I have is, why do so many
0:17
people think I'm going to get killed? Yeah,
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it's a recurring theme. People are like, be careful,
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Candace, double up on your security. Don't
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do this, don't do that. They're going to kill
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you. You're going to get Michael Jackson. Where
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is all of that rhetoric coming from? Today
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I want to unpack it, and I
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want to formally state my history when
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it comes to my engagement with the
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political movement in America, reveal to you
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guys some things that I've never revealed
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before, really want to crack
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open this dialogue. All that and
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more today coming up on Candace Owens. All
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right, guys, a tremendous, tremendous response. Honestly,
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thank you. I think people of all
1:04
races and religions were just shocked by
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the conversation that I had with Rabbi
1:09
Barclay yesterday. It wasn't really much of
1:11
a conversation, obviously. He spoke a lot
1:13
more than I did. But I was
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happy for that. I was grateful for
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that because I wanted
1:19
people to hear his perspectives. I know this is
1:21
going to sound weird, but I kind of like
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Rabbi Barclay because I think he's honest. I
1:26
think he honestly, as I tweeted
1:28
yesterday, views himself as better
1:30
and more important, or at least his
1:32
race, as more important
1:34
than other races, more significant, the history of
1:37
his race as more significant. And
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even in terms of someone being a supremacist, if
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you are honestly a supremacist, at least I can
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appreciate that because you're not hiding who you are.
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And that's why I meant it when I said
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that he will always be welcomed back onto this
1:50
show. I think it takes courage to have conversations.
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And I think that what he did yesterday
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was actually quite courageous.
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A couple of moments that you guys were shocked by, just
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like... be was, I guess, just
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the lack of definition when it comes to
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anti-Semitism. It mutates. We'll list that over and
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over again. It is a definition. It is
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a hate that mutates, which essentially, at least
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the way I took it, and I think
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most of you took it, means that it
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can just be whatever they say that it
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is, including the term hag. I
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think I actually learned the word hag from watching the movie Hocus
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Pocus when I was a kid. It
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actually was one of my favorite movies, and
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they used the word hag, and I used
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it to describe someone that is engaging in
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witch-like behavior, trying to cast a spell on
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audiences to convince them that Canis owns an
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anti-Semite when I could not be further from
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that sort of a category. I am just—I
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have no hatred towards Jewish people
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in my soul. I just don't.
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I had many experiences with Jewish people growing up. I've
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already recounted those. We're not going to do that today.
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But yes, Rabbi Barclay says that the
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scholars agree. He kept talking down
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to me. It's the scholars. It's the intelligentsia.
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They're so much smarter than us, and they
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understand the definition just changes. I think
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a lot of you guys were also surprised
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by the double down, right, in the face
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of overwhelming evidence. I just thought there was
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no way—once we pulled the clips of me
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saying the exact opposite of what he
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claimed that I said, I thought there was no way that
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he was going to double down on it, but he did.
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He particularly doubled down on
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the Hitler is okay Candice
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thing, right? Candice said Hitler is okay. He
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repeated that over and over again in that
3:24
hit piece. And then I
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show that I did not in any way
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say Hitler was okay, because what crazy person
3:31
would ever jump on a stage and say
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that? Here's one comment from
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YouTube. Somebody wrote, when she played her
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Hitler quote and he still stood by
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what he wrote, I lost respect
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for this guy. Yeah, a
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lot of comments looked like that. And I
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think especially because so many people had never
3:48
actually heard what I said in its
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entirety. You've seen the Leibels, you've seen the
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Smeers, they've been put in for years. I
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am still having to clarify. For
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Years I have been clarifying one of the—
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They said. And many of us
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had ever heard it because you've just
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see article after article hit after hit
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people trying to convince the masses that
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I said some things that I simply
4:10
never said. And I'm watching that
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clip. I think people were shocked. I
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guess this is the truth and factually
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speaking. Ah, as a political pundit, whatever
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it is a lot a call me as
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a podcast or I have been smeared
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and libeled for years and I feel.
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A power building in that people are getting
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tired of this, know being tired of being
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a propagandize and that is why for me
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I feel him I saw the time is
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now and for ah see what? Why is
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seeking out right now. While. The
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truth is is. I'm. Simply
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tired of being lied on. I'm
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a human. Rights eventually gets points
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are you say? I'm just not
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going to allow people to lie
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on my name anymore. Especially Again,
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As I said was, Been happening
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for years. And. Really all it
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ever done since I've had a platform is just
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tried to show you guys the truth. I
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don't want to tell you what to think. I can only
5:02
share. With you for my experiences are
5:04
and hope that it helps you develop
5:06
your own ideas. So. Let's
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recap the been A are some things in there were shared
5:10
for. Obviously you guys know that
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I hit the scene in two thousand
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and seventeen and I had a laser
5:17
sharp focus on the black community. My
5:19
career began when I started making youtube
5:21
videos really challenging the Blm narrative. I
5:23
was having my own awakening in real
5:25
time about the lies that the media
5:27
was printing about black people really lies
5:30
that were meant in might maybe thing
5:32
to keep that people. Down to encourage
5:34
black people or to live a
5:36
life of commonality too cold for
5:38
people to loot and to write
5:40
their own neighborhoods in the name
5:42
of and proceed social justice. I
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pretty immediately. Dot hired at Turn for
5:46
Usa and I hit. The Ground Running
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with Charlie. Perks Charlie Kirk is
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unapologetically. pro israel everybody knows this i
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was the side him as throughout most
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of his pro israel commentary and i
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bet it people does it up on
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You would hear me saying pro-Israel talking points
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I say talking points because I got into
6:04
I didn't really care again about Israel because
6:07
I was an American and I just Want
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to talk about black America, but certainly I
6:11
was nodding my head No matter what Charlie
6:13
Kirk said because I was just grateful to
6:16
have a platform to talk about the things that
6:18
were important to me and I
6:20
had a wonderful experience with Charlie Kirk and I
6:23
learned a lot under him and with turning point
6:25
USA in 2018 Charles
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Kirk and I traveled to the
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United Kingdom and it is there
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that I gave a notorious speech
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in November of 2018 Where
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that clip was derived from I'm
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gonna show you that clip again in its context
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we were Talking about things
6:45
that were happening in the United States and
6:47
somebody raised their hand and asked about the
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word nationalism Why we're all so afraid to
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say I'm a nationalist. I Am
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focused on my own nation and in
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trying to answer their question I basically
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said because the word nationalism has been
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wrongly attributed to Adolf Hitler at least
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in America And that's why people are
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afraid to embrace the word. Here
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are my words again. I Agree,
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I actually don't have any problems at all with
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the word nationalism. I think that it gets The
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definition gets poisoned By
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elitist that actually want globalism globalism is what I
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what I don't want So when you think about
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whenever we say nationalism the first thing people think
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about in at least in America is Hitler You
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know, he was a national socialist But if
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Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and
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have things run well, okay Fine, the problem
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is is that he wanted he had dreams
7:38
outside of Germany He wanted to globalize he
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wanted everybody to be German everybody to be
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speaking German everybody to look at different way
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That's not to me. That's not nationalism So
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in thinking about how we could go
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bad down the line, I don't really I don't
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really have an issue with nationalism I really don't
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I think that it's okay. It's important to retain
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your country's identity and to make sure That
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What? Happening here, which I think it's incredibly
8:02
worrisome in terms of that, just the
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the decrease. In the birthrate that we're
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seeing I'm in the Uk. Is.
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What you kind of one of avoid saw Not an
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amazing problem. I have no problems with nationalism. It's global
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isn't I try to avoid. Hearing.
8:14
About it, I have no issues with
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nationalism this operation I can watch that
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clubs and somehow believe that I was
8:21
saying it's totally okay, The holocaust, the
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jews and a to mention the word
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holocaust at mention the word use truly
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was answer a question about whether or
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not we should embrace the word nationalism.
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but at it matter. Now gonna
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want to be clear that. That.
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Clip that you're watching that was records in
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two Thousand and Eighteen and a live event
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in the Uk and ever journalists at that
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event. I was interviewed by journalists at that
8:44
event. About two hundred people were in attendance,
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amongst them many Jewish people in attendance. Nobody
8:48
cared, nobody thought was polymer Clay said on
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stage. Fast. Forward to
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two thousand and nineteen and
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out of nowhere a journalist
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up waiting for it media
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matters decide to make the
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slip go viral online. For.
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Journalists name who made that said go
9:05
viral on twitter was Jonathan White House
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again. he writes for media matters and
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suddenly I woke up six months after
9:12
having giving a speech to every person
9:15
calling for me to be canceled because
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I supported. Adolf Hitler a side
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job showing you some headlines as media
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matters train point you. Essays: Kenneth Owens
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Close If. Hitler just wanted to make Germany
9:26
great. And have things one well okay fine. I.
9:28
Have no problem with nationalism. Wow, that's
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kind of mixing. It seem very different
9:33
from what I was actually saying. Behind
9:36
them by the news tennis Allen's if Hitler
9:38
just wanted to make Germany great and have
9:40
things one, well okay fine. Again,
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No contact feeling sad quotations you
9:44
can imagine he fires one that
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was cause and media I'd tennis
9:49
Allen's Hitler's nationalism was actually fine.
9:51
It was his globalism that was
9:54
a problem. Already see what? they
9:56
were trying to do and again
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the virus from the. During out
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I and a personally always so
10:02
stinking up a hidden a band
10:04
that I shake may say into
10:06
an audio auto. Immune Response. but the my
10:09
body was breaking down because I didn't understand what
10:11
was happening. I'd never in my entire life and
10:13
accused of anti semitism and suddenly I was fighting
10:15
for my career. I was temporarily
10:17
blocked with blacklisted from Fox News for
10:20
having said the sentence with suddenly done
10:22
with, pulled out of obscurity and I
10:24
quite literally was facing a threat that
10:26
everything was going to be over. Because
10:29
how dare I say that? I have
10:31
absolutely no right to say that. And
10:34
then you had Jewish organizations that
10:36
issued very strong statements against them.
10:39
Among them, The Simon Wiesenthal Center.
10:42
Here. Is a tweet from them when
10:44
this is going viral back in February
10:46
eighteen. Sorry Back on Feb
10:48
eight thousand and nineteen they wrote
10:50
Scope and Deaths of kinda someone's
10:52
His lack of knowledge of basic
10:55
history is appalling and frightening. Hitler's.
10:57
Program to make the Germany,
10:59
Greece. Was based on race
11:01
and anti semitism. Also.
11:04
Of course the eighty L instantly jumps
11:06
on this. They. Tweeted they reach me at
11:08
first the foremost John. White House so they
11:10
helped to make this video go
11:13
viral and then they wrote this.
11:15
Some Spots Tennis Owings bizarrely claims
11:17
Settler went wrong only when he
11:19
met olds in other countries. Hitler's
11:21
murderous crimes against jews and others
11:23
were horrific from guard was of
11:25
whether they occurred across Europe or
11:27
in Germany alone. Killer wasn't a
11:29
globalists or a genocidal dictator see
11:31
would. Issue. The doing here for
11:34
disengaging in. The libel and slander
11:36
they're trying to color people's opinions of
11:38
wait actually hurt or understood the context
11:40
of what I was saying. Let me
11:42
tell you that something. it works. It
11:45
actually works. That. Is the
11:47
power of the media? I felt like it was
11:49
a hit shot like someone just said he thought
11:51
to get are poor through every seconds of footage
11:54
of tennis only seasonal going to pull something out
11:56
of contact and this well as going to be
11:58
gone because what else could be. The force
12:01
if I was on stage saying I love
12:03
Hitler, it would have gotten viral back in
12:05
November. The Jewish people that attended my
12:07
speech would have been outraged immediately. Why
12:09
was this suddenly popping up in February of 2019?
12:13
I'll never have an answer on that, but something that
12:15
I never shared and I want to share today was
12:18
what happened thereafter. A
12:20
friend of mine who I am not going to
12:22
name encouraged me to visit the
12:25
Simon Wiesenthal Center. It
12:27
was a human rights organization, human rights
12:29
for Jews organization. And
12:32
there was this very strange meeting that
12:34
occurred. And I want to be clear
12:36
that I didn't understand the meeting because
12:39
the individuals were speaking in Hebrew. My
12:41
understanding going into it was that
12:44
once I spoke to this individual,
12:46
things would be clarified and then
12:48
I could just go on living and my
12:50
reputation would pretty much be restored. And
12:53
by golly, that's kind of what happened. So
12:56
again, it was an extremely old man. I
12:59
think he runs the place. I don't know. I can't
13:01
remember his name, so I'm not going to make one up. But I
13:03
had to sit in the meeting and
13:05
explain that I didn't think
13:07
Hitler was a great person,
13:10
listen to two people speak Hebrew. And my
13:12
reputation was restored, or at least I
13:14
was allowed to go on pursuing what
13:16
I wanted to pursue, which was just
13:18
talking about black Americans and the fracturing
13:21
of the black and white relationship. Very
13:23
odd thing when I reflect on that. But
13:26
I want to be clear that
13:28
the threats, the threats that can
13:30
if this could be over at any moment for
13:32
you, don't you get out of
13:34
line again by, you know, saying something that
13:37
you never actually said, but don't
13:39
make us have to threaten you again. That
13:41
I still always felt over me because it
13:43
was just a very scary thing to go through.
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13:58
they can, quote unquote, better understand your interest. But
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fast forward now to 2022
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to a situation that the entire world was
14:51
made aware of, obviously. When
14:54
Yay, the artist formerly known as Kanye
14:56
West, tweeted this, he tweeted,
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I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when
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I wake up, I'm going desk con
15:02
free on Jewish people. The funny thing
15:04
is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because
15:06
black people are actually Jew. Also, you
15:09
guys have toyed with me and tried
15:11
to blackball anyone who ever opposes
15:13
your agenda. Let's
15:15
look at his tweet now without
15:17
it being interpreted in the media, especially at
15:19
last. You guys have toyed with me and
15:21
tried to blackball anyone who ever opposes your
15:23
agenda. Now, at that time, obviously, the reason
15:26
why people were looking for me to make
15:28
a statement is that this tweet came very
15:30
close to the time that I
15:32
had taken the notorious picture with
15:34
Kanye West. We both wore
15:36
White Lives Matter t-shirts at his
15:39
fashion show in Paris. Again, me teaming up
15:41
with Kanye because I have a laser
15:43
focus on the black community and I had
15:45
a laser focus on wanting to destroy Black
15:47
Lives Matter as an organization because I knew
15:50
that they were lying to the black community.
15:52
So again, my entire relationship and
15:54
what I did publicly with Kanye was
15:57
based on black America. But again, because
15:59
this. Tweet came closely thereafter,
16:01
people were looking at me to comment.
16:03
And the truth is that I was
16:06
aware behind the scenes, Kanye gave
16:08
me conversations, I read them in
16:10
their entirety, of very specific Jewish
16:12
people who I would say were
16:15
definitively making threats against him. And
16:17
so I had more knowledge than the
16:19
public had when he shared this Tweet.
16:23
Now, what happened thereafter was I tried
16:25
to caution the public the very next
16:27
day following his Tweet. So he had
16:29
done nothing else yet, he had done
16:31
no interviews, it was just the Tweet
16:34
that existed in the public sphere. And
16:36
I was trying to essentially say to
16:38
people, hold your horses, because I think
16:40
that once he explains what's happening behind
16:42
the scenes, we will realize that he's
16:44
not talking about all Jewish people in
16:47
the entire world. He is feeling passionately
16:49
about certain people that he works with.
16:52
And here is what I said in an
16:54
attempt to get people to hold their
16:56
horses. Take a listen. That
16:59
was the Tweet. And
17:01
people subsequently demanded that the Tweet
17:03
be taken down for anti-Semitism. Now,
17:05
if you are an honest person,
17:07
you did not
17:09
think this Tweet was anti-Semitic. You did not
17:11
think that he wrote this Tweet because he
17:14
hates or wants to genocide Jewish people. This
17:16
does not represent the beginning of the Holocaust.
17:18
That's if you're an honest person, you'll admit
17:20
that, right? If you're an honest
17:23
person, when you read this Tweet, you
17:25
had no idea what the hell he
17:27
was talking about. I had no idea
17:29
when I read this Tweet what the
17:31
hell he was talking about. This
17:34
Tweet inspired questions, not answers. First
17:36
and foremost, what is death con 3?
17:39
Did he mean death con 3,
17:42
which would be a military defense
17:44
position? Not an offense for those
17:46
of you that are offended, a
17:48
military defense position? Is he
17:50
tweeting this because he's reading the Newsweek headline,
17:53
calling him an anti-Semitic? Is he angry because
17:55
he can't believe that he's not free to
17:57
talk about people in his life who hate
17:59
him? happen to be Jewish, right, without being
18:01
accused of anti-Semitism? Is he saying, I'm not
18:04
going to shut up and I'm going to
18:06
keep tweeting and I'm going to keep calling
18:08
these people out, referring to his friends that
18:10
he feels slighted by? Is he talking about
18:12
Jerry Kushner and Josh Kushner? If
18:15
you're a liar, you'll say, I know I was
18:17
scared, Candace. I actually thought that Kanye
18:19
West was going to launch a military
18:21
strike in Israel, because that's the reaction.
18:24
Like when I woke up and I looked at the
18:26
headlines, the reaction was like Kanye
18:28
West had gotten together a
18:30
military strike and it was
18:32
going to go forward in the morning time in
18:34
Israel. That was, that was the
18:37
reaction that was met with this week.
18:40
So that's what I said. And now that we're looking at
18:42
it and examining it in the
18:44
retrospect, you can see that I'm
18:46
trying to suggest to people that
18:49
there are specific people and he
18:51
is having a reaction. But,
18:54
and I will admit, if I fumbled the
18:56
ball here and I can understand why people
18:58
were upset about it, they read that as,
19:01
no, she is, she's fully defending him and
19:03
he actually does want to go death con
19:05
three on all Jewish people everywhere. People were
19:07
very upset that I had said that. But
19:11
I want to be clear that I had
19:13
actually read the messages that were being sent
19:15
to him. One of them, he ended up
19:17
sharing publicly. This is a text message from
19:19
Harley Pasternik to Kanye. And
19:21
this was something again that I had
19:23
read before he had sent that tweet.
19:25
Text message reads, I'm going to help
19:28
you one of a couple of ways. First, you
19:30
and I sit down and have a loving and
19:32
open conversation, but you don't use test
19:34
words and everything that is discussed is based in fact
19:36
and not some crazy stuff that dumb friend of yours
19:38
told you or you saw in a tweet. Second
19:41
option, I have you institutionalized
19:43
again, where they medicate the crap out
19:45
of you and you go back to Zombieland
19:47
forever. Playdate with the kids
19:50
just won't be the same. Is
19:53
that a normal tweet? I will ask you guys
19:55
a normal text message pardon or somebody in your
19:57
life and Harley Pasternik, yes, he is Jewish to
19:59
send to you. He's supposed to be a trainer. What
20:01
do you mean I'll have you institutionalized again? What does that
20:03
mean? That your play
20:06
dates with the kid, you're threatening somebody's relationship
20:08
with their kids. Right?
20:10
Now when you do something like that, it
20:13
can drive somebody crazy.
20:16
And again, I will own it. If it
20:18
read to people at that time that
20:20
when I was saying that, I was
20:22
defending his right to impose
20:25
upon every single Jewish person
20:27
in the world, I apologize and I'm
20:30
hoping that this clarifies for you what
20:32
I knew, the information that I had
20:34
and my understanding that he was responding
20:36
to threats that he was actually getting
20:38
from specific people. And I was hopeful
20:41
that he would talk about that in
20:43
a larger capacity, but then quite surprised
20:45
when even when he did share that
20:47
tweet, there was a minimal media
20:50
response to it. It was sort of like, oh well, Harley
20:53
Pasternik is allowed to say that.
20:56
And shame on you, Candace, for not recognizing it,
20:58
but I want to be clear, that is the
21:00
extent what you just saw of my commentary on
21:02
that situation that led to a
21:04
huge reaction, calls for me to resign,
21:07
calls for me to get fired for
21:09
defending Kanye West. I want
21:11
to be honest here and tell you that
21:13
I was also made to endure a very
21:15
severe financial consequence behind the scenes because
21:18
of those words that you heard right there. And one
21:20
day I will talk more about that. You have
21:22
my word. Let's fast forward instead. It's
21:24
2023. I'm
21:27
scrolling through Twitter and a journalist, and
21:29
again, this is just a
21:32
few weeks after October 7th,
21:34
and a journalist named Yashar Ali is
21:37
I think being pretty measured in
21:39
his responses. I think he's pro-Israel
21:42
based on how he tweets and what he tweets
21:44
about. But on this day, he was
21:47
focused on something that Brian Mast,
21:49
a congressman, had said on the
21:51
floor. Yashar Ali tweeted, this is
21:53
absolutely sick stuff from Rep.
21:56
Brian Mast, and if there's any decency
21:58
left in Congress, a resolution will
22:00
be passed to condemn his remarks and he'll
22:02
be removed from the foreign affairs committee. I'm
22:05
not naive enough to think he'd resign. So
22:07
I saw this tweet and then I
22:09
clicked to see what Brian Mast said
22:11
and I was equally as disgusted. Here's
22:13
what Brian Mast said. As a whole,
22:15
I would encourage the other side
22:17
to not so lightly throw around
22:20
the idea of innocent Palestinian
22:22
civilians, as is frequently
22:24
said. I don't think
22:26
we would so lightly throw around the term innocent,
22:29
Nazi civilians during
22:32
World War II. I
22:34
hope that enrages you because what he's basically saying
22:36
is there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian
22:39
life. And basically
22:41
I believe was laying the groundwork for
22:43
genocide. That is a, that's genocidal language
22:45
to say about any group of people.
22:47
If I say there's, there's no such
22:49
thing as an innocent Iraqi, it doesn't
22:51
matter who you're talking about, that is
22:53
genocidal language. And so I retweeted this
22:55
and I said, yeah, this was disgusting,
22:57
utterly dehumanizing. Of course there are innocent
22:59
civilians on either side of every conflict
23:01
and we should not forget that. This
23:03
is shameful, inhumane rhetoric.
23:07
I've shortly followed up that retweet with
23:10
a blanket statement. No
23:12
government anywhere has a right to commit a
23:14
genocide ever. There was no justification for a
23:16
genocide. I can't believe this even needs to
23:18
be said or is even considered the least
23:20
bit controversial to state. Of
23:22
course, what Brian Mast said was wrong. When
23:25
I tweeted that second tweet, people
23:27
thought that I was talking about Israel or some
23:29
people thought I was talking about Israel. They were
23:31
so far in the trenches. They thought that I
23:33
was making a statement that Israel is committing a
23:35
genocide. When in reality I was saying that people
23:37
like Brian Mast need to cool it with their
23:39
language. I get something bad has happened, but you
23:41
can't say stuff like this ever. And so what
23:44
happened was people who were formerly
23:46
friends of mine, like Dave Rubin,
23:48
began reading into it, began doing
23:50
shows, just pretending, straight up pretending
23:52
that I made a statement about
23:54
the Israeli government when in fact
23:56
I hadn't. I just showed you
23:58
the proof that I had I
24:01
liked your Shars tweet, I retweeted it. I was
24:03
obviously speaking about Brian Mass, but it didn't matter.
24:06
Because what I learned and what I think a
24:08
lot of people are learning, and especially on the
24:10
heels of my discussion with Rabbi Barclay, is that
24:12
even if what you
24:14
said was something else, how
24:17
some people feel should be prioritized. So even
24:19
though I was talking about Brian Mass, and
24:21
I was proven right in talking about Brian
24:23
Mass, I was still at fault.
24:25
I needed to understand that I was still
24:27
wrong because of how other
24:29
people felt, that the timing of my
24:31
tweet wasn't right. It
24:33
wasn't the right time to say
24:36
that genocide is always wrong. There's a time and a
24:38
place for that, and that was not it. But it
24:40
got even weirder because people started
24:42
just spinning conspiracy theories. They started
24:44
saying that I was coordinating with
24:46
Tucker Carlson to intentionally get fired
24:49
from the Daily Wire. Okay,
24:52
people were beginning to say, and David
24:54
was among these people, that it was
24:56
so obvious, so obvious. Gosh, why else
24:58
would someone say genocide is always wrong,
25:00
right? I was trying
25:02
to get hired by Tucker Carlson. There must
25:04
have been some coordination between us. At
25:07
40 weeks pregnant, this was my big bad
25:09
plan. This was psychopathic.
25:12
None of this was true. There wasn't an
25:14
ounce of truth to that statement whatsoever. In
25:16
fact, I refer to this as ayah-nan. It's like Israel-an-nan.
25:19
It's a conspiracy theory born of
25:21
absolutely nothing, but the onslaught continued.
25:24
People attacking my character, saying horrific things about
25:26
me, simply because I didn't like what Brian
25:29
Mast has said. And of course, most
25:31
notoriously, everybody remembers that a clip
25:33
started circulating of Ben Shapiro here at
25:35
Daily Wire making ad hominin
25:38
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what is the actual point of
26:41
that? The attacks have not stopped.
26:43
You've seen this. You saw that. In
26:45
my conversation with the rabbi, he is
26:48
now trying to share with everybody that
26:50
I'm enraged. Rabbi Schmooley, she's deranged. She
26:52
just hates you so much. Smear
26:55
after smear after libel after libel after
26:57
libel, and it will not stop. Two
27:00
years of consistent threats and
27:02
harassment from Rabbi Schmooley and
27:05
his hag daughter, and they have not let
27:07
up. They began, by the way,
27:09
they jumped into the game on the basis of that clip
27:11
that I just showed you. I'm going to shame to show
27:13
you guys what I said. Because nothing was anti-Semitic.
27:16
I was just trying to tell people that more
27:18
was happening behind the scenes. That's it.
27:20
I didn't make any claims or yelling
27:22
or saying, oh, Jewish people are this or that. And
27:24
yet, people are saying definitively
27:27
that I am a Jew
27:29
hater. Jew hating bigot.
27:31
That's what Rabbi Barclay said. What
27:34
is the point of this? I want you guys to actually
27:36
ask yourself this. When people say
27:39
they're going to Michael Jackson, what are
27:41
they actually referring to? Well, I
27:43
have a suspicion that what
27:45
they mean is that all of
27:47
these attacks are meant to drive
27:49
me crazy, to drive someone crazy, to
27:53
make threats to their life, to smear
27:56
their reputation, to libel them, to make them
27:58
somebody who can't even do it. be
28:00
hired or work within a certain industry
28:02
because they have been so forceful in
28:05
their lives and in their smears. Basically
28:09
then to drive that person to a
28:11
point of anger so that they might
28:13
tweet something that's angry, that they
28:15
might tweet something that appears to be irrational to the
28:17
public so they can turn around and they can say,
28:20
told you so. I told
28:22
you Candace was crazy. I told you she
28:24
was deranged. I told you she wasn't anti-semite,
28:26
but what's really happening is that you have
28:28
specific people that are in the Jewish community
28:31
that won't stop attacking me. They
28:34
won't stop attacking me. And
28:36
I think most people after
28:38
years of enduring this would
28:40
in fact be driven crazy.
28:43
People actually just yesterday after listening
28:46
to the full hour, hour and a half discussion between Rimi
28:48
and Rabbi Bartlett, I said Candace, I don't know how you
28:50
do it. This would drive me crazy. Yeah.
28:53
Add years of that. Headline after
28:55
headline, smear after smear and
28:58
ask what sort of person would still
29:00
remain this calm. I
29:02
want to be clear. What is happening is a
29:04
form of psychological terrorism. What they're doing to me
29:06
is a form of psychological terrorism. They want
29:09
me to snap so that I can then
29:11
prove their point. Actually my options are two.
29:14
Either we're going to keep smearing
29:16
you until you snap or you
29:18
can simply comply. And
29:20
what is the thing that they want me to
29:23
comply with? I'm not sure. I think I've been
29:25
pretty rational and I've been pretty
29:27
level headed. I
29:29
don't understand why they have been engaging
29:31
in this sort of smearing. This is
29:34
why I'm terming this merchants of smear
29:36
because what they're doing here is
29:39
they're constantly threatening people behind
29:41
the scenes, publicly threatening people
29:43
by smearing their reputations and
29:45
they never ever, ever take
29:47
a break. This business just keeps going
29:49
on and on and on and on. And the
29:52
point is again to make me
29:54
submit. Another example
29:56
of that is rather shocking. I'm not kidding. a
30:00
journalist, and I'm putting the interpretation marks
30:02
despite all of the debunking
30:05
that I did in that long article,
30:07
that long interview with Rabbi Barclay, already
30:09
was jumping on the next smear. His
30:11
name is Isaac Schor. He writes
30:14
for, you guessed it, Mediate, as well
30:16
as the New York Post. And he is
30:18
now publicly calling to have me fired. He's
30:20
written a lot of articles, by the way,
30:22
and he talks to a lot of people
30:24
behind the scenes telling them not to run
30:27
any pieces on Candace Owens. Don't talk about
30:29
Candace Owens. This guy is like, you know, doing
30:32
a real hip job here. And like a
30:34
total rational journalist, he tweeted, how
30:36
long will the Daily Wire stand
30:38
by Candace Owens? No one
30:40
is asking the Daily Wire to stop Owens
30:43
from peddling hatred and conspiracy theories. They're just
30:45
wondering why it's choosing to subsidize such behavior.
30:48
Mm, yeah, totally a rational thing for
30:50
a journalist to tweet. He
30:53
accompanied that with an article by
30:56
the same title, How Long Will the Daily Wire
30:58
Stand by Candace Owens? Because as you've seen, I've
31:00
showed you the whole history. Aren't
31:02
you convinced yet? They've written so many
31:04
articles, psychological terrorists, they told you
31:06
a thousand times in the semi to what must be
31:09
true. And why would anyone hire and
31:11
stand by a raging anti-semite? They
31:13
said it so many times, guys,
31:16
and he wasn't done. He wrote a
31:18
second headline yesterday published on
31:20
Mediaite. Maybe I'm not just enraged at
31:22
the fact that I had to sit
31:25
down and spoke rationally to Rabbi Barclay.
31:27
I don't know what's driving this. But
31:29
here's the headline. Candace Owens endorses wild
31:32
anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about
31:35
Jews being drunk on
31:37
Christian blood. That
31:40
is the headline, you guys. You've been
31:42
listening to the show. Have you ever
31:44
heard me endorse a conspiracy theory about
31:46
Jews being drunk on
31:48
Christian blood? How
31:51
sick and how sinister is
31:53
this getting? How utterly
31:55
insane this is all getting. on
32:00
my head and the person that
32:02
can convince the public of something that is so
32:04
ridiculous that I can't come back from is just
32:06
Going to receive a ton of money and
32:09
Isaac Shore is really competing for that because you want
32:11
to know where he he got that conspiracy
32:13
theory from a Tweet
32:16
that I had liked of
32:18
someone defending me when Rabbi
32:20
schmooly was smearing me He
32:22
dug up an old tweet of mine that was
32:25
from February tried to present it as if it
32:27
was something new and something that was About him
32:29
before our back and forth ever even broke out
32:32
So I liked the tweet but the
32:34
clarified the right date of
32:36
the tweet saying that Rabbi
32:38
schmooly this tweet is obviously from February 20th.
32:41
What are you drunk on Christian blood? You
32:43
pay attention to last part of a tweet I
32:45
just obviously liked that this person was calling out
32:47
to this BS smearing tactic Well, did
32:49
I know that Isaac Shore
32:51
and a team of journalists are
32:53
now monitoring every single like of
32:56
mine on Twitter? To
32:58
see if they can convince the public
33:00
that I am advocating for
33:02
insanity. This is how desperate
33:04
they have become So
33:06
I'll ask the question. What are we actually witnessing here? Do you
33:09
believe Isaac Shore is a victim? Did
33:12
you believe that he
33:14
is a person who genuinely in
33:16
his heart thinks that I think
33:18
Jews are running around drinking Christian blood? By that headline.
33:21
Do you think that Rabbi Barclay is a victim? Do
33:24
you honestly believe his interpretation that I
33:26
was the one who owed the apology
33:28
to him and the Jewish community on the Basis
33:31
that I just won't let them keep
33:33
trying to smear me out of existence
33:36
Specific people in the Jewish community God forbid she did
33:38
she defend herself against how much really do you
33:40
believe Rabbi schmooly? Is a victim
33:42
when you listen to these individuals speak
33:44
and the things that they are publicizing
33:46
Does that register to you as true
33:48
victim hood? Because what
33:50
it registers to me as is power Real
33:53
power hiding behind a veneer of victim hood
33:55
the kind of power that can take somebody
33:57
out and their entire career that
34:00
person says something that they don't like. And in this case,
34:02
it's not that I'm saying things that they don't
34:04
like, it's that I'm refusing to allow my voice
34:07
to be controlled. I want to be
34:09
clear to you guys, I'm going to be honest with you because everybody's
34:11
noticing it. Every single
34:13
political commentator in America, every
34:15
single one of them knows this.
34:18
And if you do not step out and
34:21
say things that are radically pro-Israel, or
34:23
if you are too quiet on certain
34:26
narratives and they want you to be radically
34:28
pro-Israel, you can lose everything. That's
34:30
true. That is a fact. I'm not feeling like
34:32
I need to hide from that anymore because, or
34:35
be afraid to say it rather, is a better
34:37
way to say it, because I've
34:39
endured this for years. I'm just at the end of my
34:41
rope. I have given so much
34:43
rope here and I am just done with it. Every
34:46
person that you are a fan of, they know this.
34:48
Every person that you line up to go hear speak,
34:51
they know this. Again, it's not
34:53
even on the basis of what you say, it can sometimes
34:55
be on the basis of what you don't say. That
34:57
an entire mob will assemble, they'll
34:59
write piece after piece after piece
35:02
until you subjugate. If
35:04
you don't subjugate, the bounty grows
35:06
larger. So yes, there was a
35:09
large bounty on my head for
35:11
the crime of refusing to suddenly
35:13
hate Muslims and to condone Muslims
35:15
getting bombed following October 7th.
35:18
Everybody can see that. I have
35:20
said nothing controversial because genuinely
35:23
I was sad
35:26
when a bunch of innocent Israelis
35:28
were murdered and killed in horrific
35:30
acts and genuinely I am sad
35:32
when a bunch of innocent Palestinians, and
35:34
yes, they do exist, Brian Mast, are
35:37
now being made to endure bombing
35:39
and all sorts of other horrific things that we are
35:41
all seeing on Twitter. That is my
35:43
crime. Everybody can see that. It's ridiculous to pretend that
35:45
it's anything else. There's no
35:48
language that I have to use. There's nothing insane that
35:50
I have said other than I would like to treat
35:52
all races the same. I
35:55
refuse to be a supremacist. I
35:57
refuse to condone supremacy. crime.
36:00
So I want to do here
36:02
for all of you guys that are worried
36:04
that's going to happen to me is to
36:06
just provide this full accounting of everything that
36:08
I've ever done and everything I've ever said
36:10
that has been deemed controversial from this mafia,
36:13
right? This mafia of journalists that
36:15
will not let up and leave
36:17
me alone. Because that's what it
36:20
is. What is it? What
36:22
else could it possibly be? You're acting like
36:24
a mafia. You are threatening me. You are
36:26
taking my words out of context. You are
36:29
telling people to fire me on
36:31
the basis that I just won't be radical, on
36:34
the basis that I won't hate on
36:36
command. It's not about love, it's about hate. You want me
36:38
to hate on command. I want
36:40
to be clear that what these journalists
36:43
are engaging in is evil.
36:46
It is absolute evil to do this
36:48
to any person. I'm not going to be
36:50
driven crazy by it. In fact, I'm going to be driven
36:52
to more clarity by it. I'm going
36:55
to grow stronger from this. I'm
36:57
going to be a person that is more encouraged to
36:59
speak out on what is happening to me. I
37:01
want the public to see what is happening to
37:03
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37:05
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Code Candace. have
38:00
basically been on the opposite sides of
38:02
everything throughout our entire career. She has
38:04
said horrible things about me, but
38:07
so what? I thought this video
38:09
was interesting and I'm going to show you
38:11
what she said regarding AIPAC
38:14
is evil. AIPAC is
38:16
evil. Evil. My fellow Americans,
38:18
are you okay with that?
38:20
Are you okay with a
38:23
lobbying group representing the best interests of
38:25
a foreign government telling you you need
38:27
to bust your ass every day,
38:30
work a job that you likely hate, and
38:32
have a portion of your earnings taken from
38:34
you by our federal government and funnel to
38:36
the Israeli government so they can commit atrocities
38:39
in the Gaza Strip? Are you okay with
38:41
that? Because I'm not okay with that and
38:43
nothing gets under my skin more, okay, than
38:46
hearing these pieces of
38:48
crap, things that make it
38:50
clear that they feel entitled to our money.
38:54
Entitled. That
38:57
gets under my skin more than you
38:59
guys understand, okay? That's
39:02
an impassioned response and what she's
39:04
referring to there are some leaked
39:06
documents from an AIPAC meeting. AIPAC,
39:09
of course, alongside Bic pharma,
39:11
is one of the biggest lobbying organizations in
39:13
the United States. They lobby our congressmen and
39:16
I'm certain that that includes journalists because
39:19
you have a budget like AIPAC, why
39:21
wouldn't you be lobbying journalists as well
39:23
to essentially always fight to
39:26
have pro-Israel narratives? Again,
39:28
I want to be clear, I am not anti-Israel. This
39:30
is what is so wild about all of this. I'm
39:33
just not anti-Palestinian. And
39:36
so I hear what she is
39:38
saying and I believe that what
39:40
is happening right now in this
39:42
country politically is an evil. It
39:45
is wrong. It is completely ridiculous to
39:47
have a bunch of people that are
39:49
fearful to speak and say rational things,
39:52
rational things that they know to be true
39:55
because they know they can lose everything, because
39:57
they know that a bunch of journalists will pop up.
40:00
a game of whack-a-mole and try to spin
40:02
things that you have said to make them
40:04
much more nefarious than what you actually intended
40:06
when you say them. Because they know that
40:08
these journalists have power. Because
40:10
they know that these journalists will not stop
40:12
the onslaught. And eventually people
40:15
are going to cave. I
40:17
can't tell you guys how wrong this is. It
40:19
is so wrong that every fiber of
40:21
my being now wants to expose this.
40:24
I want to invite each and every journalist
40:27
that is going to continue to engage with
40:29
me in this fight onto my show. So
40:31
Isaac Schor, take this as a public invite
40:33
for you to come down to sit with
40:36
me and to explain to everybody why you
40:38
really believed that I think Jews
40:40
drink Christian blood. You
40:42
wrote that article because you really believe it. You're actually a
40:44
good guy. I'm sure you are. I'm going to
40:46
sit here quietly. I'm going to allow you to explain
40:49
yourself why you have written so many articles about me
40:51
and why you believe that I have to be fired.
40:53
Because you actually believe, as you've written in
40:55
past articles, that people like me and
40:57
Tucker Carlson were anti-Semites. For
41:00
that note, further to me believing that the
41:02
solution to all of this is simply daylight.
41:05
Daylight being the best of disinfectants. I have
41:07
publicly offered to Rabbi Barclay, who wants me
41:09
to watch the IDF footage. That not only
41:11
will I watch the footage, but I
41:14
am challenging him to use his contacts
41:16
to also get me a trip to
41:18
Israel and Gaza. Allow me
41:20
to be a reporter on the ground. People feel like
41:22
they're being propagandized about the matter one way or the
41:24
other. So why not send somebody who I think I've
41:27
earned the trust of the American public. I'm not someone
41:29
that will ever be bought and paid for. I'm not
41:31
someone that will ever say things that I know to
41:33
be untrue. Why not allow me to go?
41:36
I'll talk to IDF children. I'll talk to
41:39
Netanyahu, but I also want to speak to
41:41
people that are impacted by this in Gaza.
41:44
I want to see what's going on in Gaza.
41:46
Why not allow someone like me to go there? And
41:48
I've offered that I will bring other journalists that I
41:51
think are middle of the line, not one
41:53
way or the other. See reporting on
41:55
the matters and similarly having to endure
41:57
a bunch of threats and a bunch
41:59
of of smears. People like
42:01
my friend who's just a commentator, Dave
42:03
Smith, a Jewish person who
42:05
is now being told that he's
42:08
a self-hating Jew because he
42:10
won't get in line and, I don't
42:12
know, deliver the APAC talking points.
42:15
People have a right to know what
42:17
is going on, especially when it is
42:19
so significant that you're willing to take
42:21
out people for not saying the right
42:23
thing. So my offer stands to
42:25
anybody who wants to write an article or smear
42:27
me or a live on me, you are invited
42:30
to this show. Hopefully they'll pick up my offer.
42:32
Hopefully in a few weeks I will be out
42:34
to Israel and I will be out to Gaza
42:36
and I will be able to report to you
42:38
guys what it is that I actually see, but
42:40
I also want to say this because it's so
42:42
important. I am team
42:45
God. Okay? I'm team
42:47
God. I do not
42:49
fear the media. I do not fear
42:52
journalists. I do not fear APAC. I
42:54
don't fear big pharma. What I actually
42:56
fear is God. I think
42:58
that one day we are all going to have to account for
43:00
the things that we have done and the things that we have
43:02
said and I want to make sure that I
43:05
am not a person that is
43:07
parroting lies. The fear of
43:09
losing your job, encouraging
43:12
some people to spit
43:14
out lies, I don't think that works in the
43:16
end. Right? I think you've got to check your
43:18
priorities. And so with that
43:20
said, I want to thank everybody who
43:22
has been on this journey with me, people that have
43:24
supported me. I especially want to thank all of the
43:26
Jewish people that have been in the comments saying how
43:28
outraged they are. And I know
43:30
that it is especially difficult for you guys right
43:33
now because you are being smeared. You
43:35
know, I mean, I'm not going to
43:37
go away. I'm going to use
43:39
my God given voice to talk about the things
43:41
are important for me. I'm just asking to be
43:44
left alone or at least just report
43:46
the truth. Ladies and
43:48
gentlemen, unfortunately, that is all the time that we have
43:51
for today. But don't worry, because we will see you
43:53
tomorrow for a brand new episode.
44:00
you
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