President Obama and Bruce Springsteen discuss protest songs, reparations, and their relationships with John Lewis and Clarence Clemmons. They reflect on their early experiences with race and racism and the uncomfortable conversations we need to have. -- Find the episode transcript here: http://spoti.fi/RenegadesTranscripts Archival clips courtesy of C-SPAN and CBSNews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices