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The Brothers WISP 181 – The Cake is not a Lie for ISPs

The Brothers WISP 181 – The Cake is not a Lie for ISPs

Released Thursday, 27th July 2023
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The Brothers WISP 181 – The Cake is not a Lie for ISPs

The Brothers WISP 181 – The Cake is not a Lie for ISPs

The Brothers WISP 181 – The Cake is not a Lie for ISPs

The Brothers WISP 181 – The Cake is not a Lie for ISPs

Thursday, 27th July 2023
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This week we have Tommy, Jon Fernandez, David Taht, Robert Chacon, Dan Siemon and Zach Biles

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00:00:00 Introductions00:05:10 Dave Taht’s Story00:18:00 What is Buffer Bloat?00:25:50 Dave’s Poem about Congestion00:28:30 Dave’s Mission00:30:10 What is FQ_Codel?00:44:30 What have various implementations been focused towards?00:47:50 New Zealand Example and the ECN Bit00:51:20 What does CAKE do different than FQ_Codel01:04:30 Congestion isn’t just in our Links, looking at the insane time scale of BW01:09:50 How different protocols handle being queued (Not everything is IPv4/TCP)01:25:10 Where should you be doing your proper Queuing01:34:00 How well has FQ_Codel and CAKE been implemented? (Kinda poorly)01:37:00 Dynamic BW availability controls?01:42:30 Wrapping Up01:54:00 Dave’s 3 Points

How to get ahold of peopleDave: [email protected] https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Daves_Media_Guidance/Zach: zachbiles.netRobert: https://libreqos.io/Dan: www.coverfire.com Preseem.comJon: https://geekitek.com/

The Blind Men and the Elephant

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7567https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8290https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2209336Personal Blog Post by Dan Siemon about QUIC https://www.coverfire.com/archives/2023/07/11/the-rise-of-udp/

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Not mentioned in the cast, but informational pages that were very helpful for me in my learning process. (Mikrotik’s documentation has gotten a lot better in the last few months thank goodness.)https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/tc-cake.8.htmlhttps://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Queues#Queues-FQ-Codelhttps://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.07617.pdfhttps://lwn.net/Articles/758353/

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