On this episode, we speak with Tullian Tchividjian and his new wife, Stacie. In 2015, after news of infidelity hit the media, Tullian went dark on the internet. In this interview, we discuss: what happened during that "forced sabbatical", walking through his own form of deconstruction, going through an identity crisis, what he realized about friends and love, and the grace he experienced from his wife, kids and a couple close friends. Once a celebrity pastor, he now considers himself an "outcast empathizing with outcasts". Make sure to tune in next week for Part 2.Find him at www.tullian.netWrite Candice and Katie at [email protected] or visit the website www.freesexpod.com