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Last call as of right now.
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And. We start where the market alert. Hi. Everybody
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good to see. It's my Friday so I'm not
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wearing tight aren't we begin and I with a
1:57
simple question. How. do you like them
1:59
apples or it Apple. Apple
2:01
shares popping right now. Look at that. They're
2:03
up 6%. And with this move, Apple
2:07
adds about $161 billion in
2:10
market value just right now. And
2:12
here's the big headline. iPhone sales, they
2:15
drop. Wait, but the stock is
2:17
up because the money making headline,
2:19
the one that really shocked the investing
2:21
world was that Apple is
2:24
announcing the largest stock buyback
2:26
by any company ever.
2:29
Apple share buyback, $110
2:32
billion. To put that into perspective,
2:35
Apple's buyback is
2:37
as big as Boeing is
2:39
now. Exactly the same. By
2:41
the way, Apple's buyback is slightly bigger
2:43
than the combined market caps of GM
2:45
and Ford. This is just their
2:48
stock buyback. Steve
2:50
Kobach is live outside of Apple's
2:52
headquarters in Cupertino, California. He spoke
2:54
with Tim Cook a short time
2:56
ago. You're smiling. It's sunny. I
2:58
imagine Tim Cook was smiling. But
3:01
iPhone, Steve, that's not
3:03
the greatest headline. Yeah,
3:06
it's not. And it's actually gorgeous here. I'm
3:09
having the time of my life just getting
3:11
some sun. But look, here's what Tim Cook
3:13
told me about that slump in China sales
3:15
isn't going to last forever. Remember, sales there
3:18
were down 13% in the December quarter, now
3:20
this quarter down 8% for
3:22
the March quarter. And on top of
3:24
that, he told me iPhone sales grew
3:26
in mainland China. And in the long
3:28
term, he's optimistic. I asked him about
3:31
his recent visit to China and he
3:33
told me, quote, I feel great that
3:35
in an extraordinarily competitive environment that
3:37
we grew iPhone sales in mainland China
3:39
last quarter, that may come as a
3:41
surprise to some people. And so I
3:43
feel good about China. I think more
3:45
about long term than I do the
3:47
next week or so, end quote. And
3:50
then the big question was, of course,
3:52
on artificial intelligence where Apple plays in
3:54
their cooks still teasing the anticipated AI
3:56
announcement he first mentioned during their earnings
3:58
call three months ago. he
4:00
did give me some color on
4:02
how Apple hardware can enable AI,
4:04
telling me, quote, we've been shipping
4:06
a neural engine since 2020, and
4:09
so we've been working on AI from a
4:11
silicon point of view for years before that
4:13
to ship it in 20. And so I
4:16
think we have a huge opportunity here,
4:18
and as people start using AI more,
4:20
there's a big opportunity. Now we're expecting
4:23
more on AI to come at the
4:25
company's annual developers conference on June 10th.
4:27
A few more things to go over
4:29
in this report, iPhone sales, as you mentioned,
4:31
down 10%. Apple says
4:33
a lot of that is due to
4:36
a one-off one-time fluctuation following COVID related
4:38
production problems at the end of 2022
4:40
and beyond the buyback, shares moving higher
4:43
on stronger than expected guidance. Apple says
4:45
revenue growth will be in the low
4:47
single digits. Brian, I'll send it back
4:49
to you. Yeah, pretty amazing stuff there.
4:52
And I would imagine, Steve, the buyback news was,
4:54
I mean, I know we don't talk a lot
4:57
about buybacks. They tend to be boring. Companies aren't
4:59
obligated to do it. So it is just a
5:01
headline number. I mean, anybody
5:03
there really digging into that? 110 billion
5:06
is a lot of money. It's
5:09
a lot of money, and Apple throws up a lot
5:11
of cash. Keep in mind, though, they don't make big
5:14
acquisitions. They buy small companies, you know, in the tens
5:16
of millions of dollars range or hundreds of millions of
5:18
dollars that they usually don't disclose. Last
5:20
big acquisition they made in the billions with
5:22
Beats Audio for 3 billion.
5:24
So what are they going to do with that
5:26
money? They buy back their shares, Brian. Steve
5:30
Kovach out of Cupertino, California,
5:32
and enjoying himself. And Apple investors are
5:34
enjoying themselves right now. All right,
5:37
for reaction on Apple and technology
5:39
and longevity and just everything, let's
5:41
bring in a legendary tech investor.
5:44
He is now Primetime Partners co-founder and
5:46
chairman. He's run a number of
5:48
other venture capital companies. He has funded
5:50
many, many companies in his lifetime, and
5:52
that is Alan Patrick off also
5:55
one of the early investors in Apple. Alan,
5:58
it's great to have you on set here. It's been a
6:00
while. It's great to be back with you at angle. I
6:02
know we've been talking for a long time And
6:05
so I'm really pleased that you came on last call. I
6:07
want to talk about longevity I want to talk about this
6:10
huge gold rush of people wanting to live
6:12
longer and longer and live healthier You
6:15
invested in Apple 40 years ago. Did you
6:17
ever imagine it would be this? considering
6:20
that I invested $315,000
6:24
for about maybe it was let's
6:26
see it was valued about 60 million
6:28
dollars at that Second just
6:30
had started the year before I
6:33
Computed the value of that about a
6:35
year ago I haven't done it
6:38
recently, but I was running it monitoring it would
6:40
have been worth about 8 billion What
6:43
so I'm assuming you did not keep it
6:45
no I Actually it was
6:48
instead of selling it after when public
6:50
we distributed to all the investors and
6:52
I've always wondered I had about
6:54
40 investors did anyone by mistake put it
6:56
into a drawer and Forget
6:58
about it and all of a sudden you imagine a Your
7:01
315 thousand would have been would have
7:03
been 8 billion last year. I haven't
7:06
priced it I mean I was running
7:08
I had a computer program which I
7:10
was monitoring it on a monthly basis
7:12
just to see for fun What was happening?
7:14
I mean I hope it's that one of
7:16
those 40 or so investors did just kind
7:18
of to your point forget about it Oh,
7:21
honey. I just found 500 million dollars tucked
7:23
away in a corner Well, I had
7:25
a similar experience recently without a mining
7:27
company that was distributed from a fund
7:29
I was in 25 years ago when
7:31
I lost their certificate and founded it
7:33
and had Reasonable amount
7:35
of value and I could even remember the
7:38
life of Alan Patrick off I mean I
7:40
my next life I want to come back
7:42
as you you literally just finding mining company
7:44
certificates in a drawer that are probably worth
7:47
Millions of dollars, you know, but
7:49
but they say that there's nothing more valuable than than
7:51
health, right? What does somebody told me if
7:54
my former boss said, you
7:56
know a sick healthy healthy man
7:58
worries about a thousand things and a sick
8:00
man worries about one and you're doing
8:02
so many investments now prime time
8:04
in the longevity how big is
8:07
this going
8:09
to be well let's put it this
8:11
way medicare is currently about nine hundred
8:14
billion dollars a year as
8:16
growing eight percent a year estimate
8:18
is that i can remember the year but let's say
8:21
twenty thirty it uh... it's probably
8:23
laid that it'll be it could be as much as
8:25
fifty percent of the u.s. budget uh...
8:28
and we think about that i'm probably
8:30
too early probably is longer than that
8:32
twenty forty twenty fifty but
8:34
that's why when i started using his growing
8:36
and growing and growing what
8:39
we're doing is investing in
8:41
the product services and technologies
8:44
take care of the fastest growing part of
8:46
the population which no one is focused focused
8:48
on people over sixty
8:51
are growing to the point that by twenty thirty
8:53
the be more people over sixty they will be
8:55
under eighteen on you gotta
8:57
do something they have a lot of
8:59
money yeah exactly and with great new
9:01
we don't best in drugs or biotech
9:04
uh... but they're making life better for
9:06
all of us making
9:09
us live longer and better and
9:11
healthier lives and that means
9:13
more customers for the companies that
9:15
were investing in who are going to give them
9:17
products and services and technology are not doing it
9:20
for charity of you doing this to make money for
9:22
your investors a hundred percent and we
9:24
all focus on the young the tv demo
9:26
twenty five to fifty four what's the latest
9:29
take top craze right to your point biggest
9:31
group of people wealthiest group
9:33
of people and have been
9:35
long ignored by many
9:37
parts of the investing community but
9:39
everyone's all of a sudden discovered
9:41
your uh... your all alma mata
9:43
bloomberg across the cover of business
9:45
week about a month ago was
9:47
the word longevity the economist uh...
9:50
vanity fair new york times financial
9:52
times wherever you go people are
9:54
thinking much more about how i
9:56
can live healthier and uh... at
10:00
Happy of yeah I get escola time
10:02
How. How I've gotten to the point
10:04
I have that. This. Age and what
10:06
my secrets for successes are going
10:09
to Days finding a mining certificate
10:11
in a drawer newton hurts. I'm
10:13
it as having a positive attitude
10:16
about life. big wake up every
10:18
day and thinking the word yes
10:20
and. Waking. Up
10:22
with a smile of course.
10:25
exercising him and Livia. It's
10:27
a decent life, but working.
10:30
Having relationships with friends
10:32
and. Recently. Four
10:34
months ago got married my. Wife.
10:36
Had out of my previous life, has Alzheimer's
10:38
and passed away a few years ago and
10:40
so I've got a lot to look forward
10:43
or that. So that's my secret to success
10:45
of living. I roared. You hear about me,
10:47
Weiss But Butter? Congratulations on the new nuptials.
10:49
Just But Is there? you're You're in a
10:51
world that ninety nine point nine percent of
10:53
our audiences not in your. Super.
10:56
Rich. Famous. Investor. Season.
10:58
Go To private companies. Is there any
11:00
public companies that you're investigating that our
11:02
viewers or should be looking at the
11:05
help them. Take. Advantage or make
11:07
some money off this longitude he carried
11:09
out by. I wish I could say
11:11
yes to. The interesting thing is that
11:13
we're in a startup world. War.
11:16
We've paid thirty five investments in the first
11:18
three and a half years were business. But
11:20
now that to another fun and. I
11:23
would say all of them. With
11:26
rare exceptions are and what you call
11:28
seed stage early stage startups. some a
11:30
rounds of speeds a little bit further
11:32
have revenues and there are no growth.
11:35
There are no growth fun. Spoke to
11:37
somebody else However, every company you can
11:39
think of every company you miss. Benson
11:41
on years school a crow crawl has
11:44
gotta be thinking Ford Motor got his
11:46
thinking as a stab at a zoo.
11:48
Cyborgs: what are they doing to make
11:50
sure the cars or. Com.
11:52
more comfortable enough to get into easy to
11:54
get out of that were not invest the
11:57
and ford motor us so but i get
11:59
your point we have the former ceo the
12:01
show for later than the show. But there
12:03
are specifically no companies that
12:05
have yet gone public that are dealing
12:08
with it. You
12:10
can't even name some companies in this area. When they're
12:12
about ready to go public so we can take advantage,
12:14
will you let us know? Are you
12:16
kidding? Of course I'll let you know. I'll take them
12:18
and bring them on the show for you. We have
12:21
several companies out in Fort Fort, they could be public,
12:23
but it's going to take a while. Is the
12:25
IPO market strong enough to go public? I
12:28
think that in my area, most people will
12:30
be, the most transaction
12:32
will be M&A transactions because all
12:34
of the insurance companies, all the
12:36
health plans have to know
12:38
what's going on to make
12:40
their audience, might make their customers,
12:43
their clients, live more comfortably
12:45
and live longer. For example, every health
12:47
plan will do anything they can to
12:49
prevent a person from falling because when
12:51
you fall, you've got to go get
12:53
an ambulance, you go to the hospital, you
12:55
get a hip replacement, you get pneumonia, you
12:57
get sepsis and it costs
13:00
a lot of money. So preventing
13:03
is a big deal. Alan
13:05
Patrick, prime time partners, we could do the whole
13:07
hour with you, but I'd probably get fired, but
13:09
I probably wouldn't even mind it. So Alan, let's
13:11
try not to make it so long again, please.
13:13
But let me, since you wanted me to talk
13:15
about that, but let me just one thing and
13:17
say, it's a great
13:19
memory of having made that investment and I
13:22
get great pleasure and I astounded
13:25
like everybody else to see $110
13:27
billion buybacks. By
13:30
the way, I think they did a
13:32
$90 billion buyback last year. So let's
13:34
not forget that. This is, that's real
13:36
money even for Alan Patrick off. Thank
13:40
you. It was a real pleasure. Thanks. public.
13:46
Thank you. All right. So
13:48
we're going to take a look at the money today and it was a
13:50
good day. Markets rose across the board. Now back up
13:52
one and a half, by the way, small caps, bigger
13:54
winner up nearly 2%. Quick
13:56
check on the future. See how they're doing as well. They're
13:58
very thinly traded, but they are. in the green. All
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a big gambling app as the NBA playoffs heat
14:07
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14:09
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15:28
Bloomberg reporting that the NBA is
15:30
close to signing a new long-term
15:32
broadcasting deal that would pay the
15:34
league about $76 billion over
15:38
11 years. I don't know if that's a nod to
15:41
Philadelphia or not, but $76 billion is a lot of
15:43
money. The league has agreed to a general framework of
15:45
deals with Disney and
15:48
Amazon, reportedly worth $2.6 billion
15:50
and $1.8 billion a year, respectively. Remember, these
15:55
deals not signed, could
15:57
change, things could happen. NBC can
15:59
still... jump into the other deal, take a
16:01
look at what some of the media stocks are doing.
16:03
They're not doing anything. But let's bring in now, Alex
16:05
Sherman, for more on what
16:08
I think Alex is a pretty darn big
16:10
headline for the NBA. Yeah,
16:14
well, the partners, I think, at this
16:16
point are pretty well known in terms
16:18
of three of the four,
16:20
right? You mentioned two of them, Disney
16:22
and Amazon. The
16:25
basic frameworks of those packages are
16:27
done. It's not really a surprise
16:29
that either Disney, which owns ABC and
16:31
ESPN is back in here, or Amazon,
16:33
which has global reach, has already demonstrated
16:36
success with the NFL through Thursday Night
16:38
Football, that they would be the NBA's
16:40
streamer of choice. And
16:42
they're very interested in owning a
16:44
package. It's the third package that
16:46
is still a big question mark,
16:48
whether that goes to our parent
16:50
company, NBC Universal, or Warner Brothers
16:52
Discovery. NBC Universal has come out
16:54
with a large bid of averaging
16:56
about $2.5 billion a
16:58
year. That's more than double the
17:00
price that Warner Brothers Discovery currently pays
17:03
for the NBA, which is about $1.2
17:05
billion per year.
17:07
And it boxes Warner Brothers Discovery in. They're
17:09
either going to need to spend a dramatic
17:12
amount of money for a company that has
17:14
been cost cutting for the past two years
17:16
trying to get their debt down
17:19
and their cash flow up. This kind
17:21
of goes against strategy for them, but
17:23
they need the NBA to support their
17:25
cable channels, TNT and TBS. And they
17:28
also need it to support this new
17:30
sports JV that they're a part of
17:32
with Disney and Fox. So that's the
17:34
scenario we're in. The league, the NBA
17:36
is going to make out really well
17:38
here because they have a lot of
17:40
interesting bidders. Is this going to trump
17:43
the NBC bid? I know you mentioned
17:45
us. Is this
17:47
different than that? Because there's multiple rights packages
17:49
going out, correct? And you got to answer
17:51
the most important question of all, where
17:54
will Charles Barkley end up? Cause I, you
17:57
know, Charles is struggling at
17:59
20 million. Whatever is making. also to make sure
18:01
that he ends up in a safe place. So.
18:04
We don't know yet to that bright as
18:06
so that will be determined that who gets
18:08
the third back and so what's the? Just
18:11
to be clear, since day there are two
18:13
packages. Physios. One Warner Brothers
18:15
discovery of the others he says he is
18:17
be right partners for the N B A
18:19
for the last. One. In two years.
18:22
In the new world there's going to
18:24
be free partners Amazon as the new
18:26
one dizzy will maintain of package and
18:29
the third quarter will be either Warner
18:31
Brothers, Discovery of Power, Nbc, Universal Party,
18:33
some sort of last minute shit whereas
18:36
Charles Barkley and up with a portable
18:38
guess the back as he stays whole
18:40
se as see if a so that's
18:42
the quest is yes and outlaws of
18:45
his contract And really anybody. And.
18:47
Make him an offer at that point so we will
18:49
see. We reached out
18:51
to Charles we invited about last call. We
18:53
got a polite know but Charles if you're
18:55
out there. You're. Welcome any time
18:57
you and Kenny and Shack Whatever. Went
18:59
out to dinner, were taught my Goldman
19:01
Sachs and sack and I said it's
19:03
Goldman Sachs and now they're going to
19:05
use that. I'm not going to get
19:07
a dime. Our sermon are great stuff
19:09
thank you very much Rise. By the
19:12
way, they're still earnings rolling out. so
19:14
is a corporate edict. We have to
19:16
hit a few coin base. Our better
19:18
than expected revenue: Strong crypto pricing Trading
19:20
the crypto of chainsaw transaction revenue top
19:22
of billion dollars. But Kate Rooney. The.
19:24
Stock is down on what seems like a
19:26
decent quarter. Ever. I
19:28
and sell at the corner was really good
19:31
as he look at the first quarter think
19:33
we had an all time i really help
19:35
point they say tend to see trading volume
19:37
transaction revenue really rise when that does happen.
19:40
So the south again today heading into earnings
19:42
had been up something like eight or nine
19:44
percent so far as really have the one
19:46
thing. And. One reason the stock may
19:49
be folly after hours as the April number.
19:51
so they gave us some updates on in
19:53
terms of transaction revenue and if you look
19:55
at the runway sort of the average. Rate.
19:58
of growth based on that It
20:00
doesn't look as good as it did in the first quarter. So
20:02
that may be part of the week this year. And then something
20:04
else that analysts are watching is sort of the mix of
20:07
Bitcoin revenue versus everything else. So Bitcoin
20:09
is sort of seen as the
20:11
OG, the safest of the crypto assets,
20:14
and the most legitimate. It's
20:16
been added to these Bitcoin ETFs. But
20:18
everything else out there is seen as
20:20
riskier and seen as something
20:23
that regulators, especially the SEC, are looking at.
20:25
So I've been talking to analysts that say,
20:27
it's not necessarily good news that more than
20:30
half of the assets on Coinbase are now
20:32
other assets, not Bitcoin. So that's
20:34
one thing that's taking a little bit of the
20:36
shine up the quarter. But objectively, a very, very
20:39
strong quarter. One question heading into this was, what
20:41
do those ETFs actually mean for Coinbase? Some people
20:43
said, you know, can cannibalize the business. It could
20:45
be seen as a bad thing. Coinbase
20:48
CEO, Brian Armstrong, he talked about that on
20:50
the call and brought some attention to it.
20:53
But here's what he said, Brian, pretty interesting.
20:55
This excitement around Bitcoin ETFs actually drove
20:57
new customer adoption across our product suite.
21:00
And we saw all time highs in trading
21:02
volume and active clients, for instance, in our
21:04
institutional business. So, you
21:06
know, I think it's a rising tide that lifts all boats.
21:09
So at least not taking market share away from
21:12
them yet. But that was one big question going
21:14
into this, Brian. So interesting there,
21:16
the rising tide analogy. Good thing for
21:18
Coinbase. There it is. Kate Rooding, thank you very
21:20
much. All right, let's bring in now, CBC contributor
21:23
and Seymour asset manager, founder and CIO Tim Seymour,
21:25
who's going to be on to talk about DraftKings
21:27
and gaming. We might get to that. You even
21:29
wore ties. Do whatever. Nice. Were
21:32
you just playing? Were you just hooping? You look like you dressed
21:34
up for me. Maybe you're doing some pickup game out. We were
21:36
doing the thing that you're going to see later on in the
21:38
show. And I was actually doing like some physical stuff for one.
21:41
And like your physical guy. Let's get physical, Brian.
21:43
Well, I saw you did this. The
21:47
leg hammers quickly. Look below deck. All
21:50
right. That's a good new captain, apparently. Come
21:55
on. I don't even know. Let's start. How about
21:57
this NBA? Okay, we don't talk a lot about
21:59
sports. These are some huge
22:01
numbers. Amazon's in play, Disney's in play, NBC Universal
22:03
may be in play. Is there a
22:05
play? The play is ultimately
22:07
that it is a feeding frenzy.
22:10
As you pointed out, this is not
22:12
necessarily the same deal that Warner Brothers
22:14
and NBC are dueling over, and who
22:16
needs that one more? You
22:18
can make an argument that Warner Brothers clearly has
22:20
over-earned on that deal. They almost priced themselves. It's
22:23
been so effective for them, you can make an
22:25
argument that that's been $600 to $700 million a
22:27
year just in
22:29
their pocket from that deal. I
22:31
think the dynamic here around the power
22:33
of the franchise and the NBA is
22:35
that they are gonna continue
22:37
to buy up. And I think
22:39
all of the various platforms,
22:42
and of which Amazon really has the
22:44
pockets that go on forever, this is
22:46
the state of play. You
22:48
know, and Alex has made this point
22:50
very well that in many ways, NBA
22:53
on TNT, with Charles and
22:55
Kenny, whatever, we got Kenny Smith on a stock
22:58
draft this weekend and on CNBC and of course
23:00
he picked Warner Brothers because that's home, he was
23:02
smart to do that. Was his teammate- He knows
23:04
something, I don't know. Did he really
23:06
pick Warner Brothers? Yeah, of course he did, why wouldn't
23:09
he? I mean, he's Kenny the Jet Smith. I mean,
23:11
this was- No, he seriously, Kenny Smith picked Warner- I'm
23:13
sorry, I created this stock strap.
23:15
I did not watch it, I was traveling or something. Whatever,
23:18
I was angry. He was good.
23:20
No, he picked Warner Brothers. Kenny Smith. He also picked
23:22
Warner Brothers and it gets back to really the fundamental
23:24
story here. Warner Brothers is beleaguered, it's
23:26
beaten up and if you're playing the stock draft,
23:28
a little bit of, you know, just going from
23:30
just terrible to bad. You've
23:32
done that in your strategy, which is the
23:34
gamesmanship of picking the stock, it's just dumpster
23:37
fire in the hope that it goes up
23:39
40%, which could be
23:41
pennies, I get that. But look at
23:43
Warner Brothers' discovery, Alex has
23:45
argued that the NBA on TNT, whatever
23:47
is Warner Brothers' discovery. I mean, when
23:49
was the last HBO
23:51
hit, Game of Thrones? I mean, seriously-
23:53
I have a question and at one point, we were
23:56
doing some of the parts on Warner Brothers and
23:58
it added up to a lot more than ever. really is.
24:00
This is critical for them and we'll
24:02
see because it's also you can make
24:04
an argument that Peacock really wants this
24:07
and needs this. There's a
24:09
dynamic here that I think will still be
24:11
determined. The NBA is clearly the big winner.
24:14
Quickly, DraftKings, everybody's gambling on
24:16
sports. Knicks, by the way, I think three and a half
24:19
hundred dogs tonight at Philadelphia. I'm not touching that well. I'm
24:21
heading down to Philly to put my bro
24:23
shirt on and even though they didn't buy
24:25
one last ticket from Philly ownership. You got
24:27
one though. You got your Jalen Brunson jersey
24:29
ready to go. You got it. You got
24:31
it. But look, DraftKings. By the way, don't
24:34
get like hit with snowballs or anything. Look,
24:36
it's Philly. So I'll never be careful. Anything
24:38
can go on inside that arena as a
24:40
fan. I'll say this, the DraftKings
24:42
numbers were fantastic. They, unlike
24:44
what Penn did earlier in the day, they
24:46
beat and raised. They actually hit expectations, the
24:49
free cash flow, or at least the adjusted
24:51
EBITDA story here for an industry where you
24:53
have an addressable market that grows day
24:56
by day. So they're delivering. Penn is not
24:58
Penn saying, hey, hang in there with us.
25:00
Meanwhile, the interactive assets are really hiding a
25:03
core brick and mortar business in the casinos.
25:05
That's actually very strong, but that was disappointing
25:07
number out of Penn. Very strong out of
25:09
DraftKings. I'm long DraftKings. I think it goes
25:12
higher. I think they are, you know, they've
25:14
established along with Fandil a real,
25:16
a real beachhead. I'd love
25:18
to get Portnoy's take on an old Penn
25:20
today down with 15%. One stock. Everybody knows
25:22
the rules. Tim Seymour, we're going
25:24
to talk about it. Really appreciate it. Good way
25:27
to pick and roll with the news.
25:29
What we do, you know, pick and roll. And I'd like
25:31
to think we play above the rim here. Where
25:33
we do. It's better than a Rick roll. All right.
25:35
So ahead. Inflation
25:38
at top is you had any election as president
25:40
Biden have a plan to win over small business
25:42
owners. Kate Rogers up with that next. Oh,
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extenders at additional charge. Alright,
26:24
welcome back. It is Small Business Week, and
26:26
we don't need to tell any of you
26:28
out there watching or listening who own your
26:30
own small business. The times are still tough
26:32
in many areas. We get it. Labor,
26:35
hard to find. Inflation, still
26:37
serious problem. Remember,
26:39
costs have not come down.
26:42
The rate of cost increases
26:44
has come down. And
26:47
this will be a big issue at the ballot
26:49
box in November. Kay Rogers joining us now to
26:51
look at the pulse of how small businesses in
26:53
America are feeling out of November. Kate, what are
26:55
you hearing and reading? Hey,
26:58
Brian. So, inflation remains a
27:00
sticky and top issue for small
27:02
business owners across the country. According
27:04
to our CNBC SurveyMonkey Small Business
27:06
Confidence Index, only one in four
27:08
now say inflation is actually peaked.
27:11
That's down for nearly a third last
27:13
quarter. Meanwhile, three quarters say they still
27:15
expect inflation to continue to rise. That
27:17
number up from 69% last quarter. More
27:21
than one in three owners now say inflation
27:23
is actually their biggest threat to business. That
27:25
is three times, Brian, as many who say
27:27
consumer demand, labor shortages, supply chain or
27:30
interest rates are their top threats at
27:32
the moment. Also, there seems to be
27:34
a bit less confidence this quarter in
27:37
the Fed's ability to control inflation. 31%
27:39
say they're very confident that's down from
27:41
35% in our survey last quarter. But
27:44
on the whole, confidence is pretty stable right now for
27:46
owners at a score of 47 out of
27:48
100. That's on par with
27:50
last quarter's score up one point from the
27:53
same time last year. And looking
27:55
out to November, as you mentioned, inflation is
27:57
right now, again, the top priority.
28:00
say inflation and economic growth are their top
28:02
issues when deciding who to vote for this
28:04
year. These two come in ahead of tax
28:06
policy, which is always a big one, safety
28:08
and crime, foreign policy, and
28:10
healthcare costs. So all of those are
28:12
typically top concerns for small businesses, but
28:15
again, inflation and the economy and growth
28:17
are really key right now. Brian, back over to you.
28:19
It is big deal. Kate Rogers out West. Thank you
28:22
very much. All right. Joining us now is former senior
28:24
aides and New York governor, Andrew Cuomo, Melissa DeRosa, also
28:26
a new author, and former Ohio
28:28
governor and NBC news political analyst, John Kasich.
28:30
Guys, really appreciate you coming in. Uh, governor,
28:32
I'm going to start off with you. Okay.
28:34
We talk, we're, we're East coast biased. So
28:36
we need to talk about Ohio more. Okay.
28:38
My wife went to high school in Dayton.
28:40
He went to Miami of Ohio, which was
28:43
a school before Florida was a state. I'm
28:45
told how are things at Ohio and what is
28:47
the state of inflation for all the small business
28:50
owners that you cut taxes on back in the
28:52
day? Brian, I think it's
28:54
true across the board. Look, I mean, the problem
28:56
with inflation, so we can put
28:58
it just really nail it down is
29:00
that with inflation, it means that these
29:02
small business men and women have to
29:04
pay their workers more in wages. Number
29:06
one, number two, the cost of what
29:09
they need to procure in order to produce something has
29:11
gone up as well. Their rents have
29:13
likely gone up and they're living in fear of
29:15
interest rates. And are the report
29:18
that just finished is really clear. People
29:21
in this country are going to decide
29:23
this election about how they feel about
29:25
the economy. And Joe Biden can
29:27
walk around and he can talk about Bidenomics. In
29:29
fact, I see that some of
29:32
those opposed to, uh, uh,
29:34
to Joe Biden, uh, namely some
29:36
of the minority groups, particularly Hispanics
29:38
are using Bidenomics as a way
29:40
to kind of mock Joe Biden.
29:43
So, I mean, the fact is what the Biden
29:45
people have to do is to get their numbers
29:47
out there. Number one and number two, they've got
29:49
to show that things were not all so peachy
29:52
under Donald Trump. Bidenomics
29:54
is a marketing disaster. It's dead in the water.
29:56
Let's move that. They wish that inflation was as
29:58
dead as the term Bidenomics, but Melissa, if
30:00
you're going to advise the Biden administration, it's
30:02
what you do. OK, better than anybody. How
30:04
would you tell them to sell? You can't
30:06
tell somebody the economy is good. It
30:09
either is or it isn't. No, you're right.
30:11
But here's the thing, Brian. By a number
30:13
of top measures, the economy is not just
30:15
good. It's thriving. Unemployment has been
30:17
below 4% for the longest stretch in 50
30:20
years. GDP, we're breaking
30:22
records. Comparatively to other developed countries
30:24
around the globe, we are the strongest. Week
30:26
after week, you see record breaking things on
30:28
Wall Street. So by a lot of standards,
30:30
we are doing a great job in the
30:33
economy. The issue, of course, is every time
30:35
you reach for your wallet to pay for
30:37
a burger to go fill up your gas tank.
30:39
And you know it every single time, Melissa. Here's the
30:41
problem for the president. Here's the problem, which
30:43
is that he's got a little bit of a
30:46
conundrum, right? You want to say, hey, stock markets
30:48
are near record high, but, hey, you're middle class,
30:50
Joe, middle up, bottom out, or whatever that means.
30:52
You can't go and say, the stock markets are
30:54
record high when you're at the same speech.
30:56
No, look at. Talking about rich people are the problem.
30:58
And to what the governor was just saying, Biden
31:01
has to do a better job of reminding
31:03
people from where we came. He inherited an
31:05
economy that was decimated, right? We were coming
31:08
out of COVID. Unemployment was 6.4%. And
31:11
we came back from the brink. And all
31:13
of the arrows are pointing in the right
31:15
direction. Now, Americans are a lot of things.
31:17
Patience is not generally one of them. But
31:19
I think he's got to be out there
31:21
making the case that what you want in
31:24
a strong economy is you want predictability and
31:26
you want stability. And what is Donald
31:28
Trump? The polar opposite of that. He
31:30
is a flamethrower. And elections are ultimately
31:32
about choices. And what is Donald Trump
31:34
going to do to help the issue
31:36
with inflation? Raise import tariffs by
31:38
10% to 60%? Yeah,
31:41
but Biden wants to raise them more than
31:43
that. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's
31:45
talked about higher tariffs. He gave a speech
31:48
to one of the unions about higher steel
31:50
tariffs. No, but no. Trump is all about
31:52
protectionism. And he wants to raise tariffs on imports
31:54
10% to 60%. Sorry, go
31:56
ahead, governor. No, no, no, we're talking steel and I want
31:58
to bring it up, governor. Because you got some
32:00
steel in Ohio. All
32:03
right, Toledo, you got Jeeps being
32:05
made there. You got Cleveland Cliffs. They
32:07
got a huge facility there. They made
32:09
a massive investment in Ohio.
32:11
What is the economic sell for
32:13
both guys? And maybe the first guy
32:15
too. If the
32:17
election were today, Donald Trump would win
32:19
Ohio. But the election's
32:21
not today. And frankly, the Biden
32:24
people, and you'll see it coming, they're going to have
32:26
to become, they're going to have to go negative. They're
32:29
going to have to say this nostalgia about
32:31
how great everything under Donald Trump was is
32:33
simply not true. And they're going
32:35
to have to make that case. But here's
32:37
the problem, and you said it, Brian, what people
32:40
feel is what people feel. We can have the
32:42
stock market's great. This is good. That
32:44
is good. But I'm telling you this, small business
32:46
people, or I'm suggesting to you that small business
32:49
people are saying, inflation's hurting me.
32:51
Again, I got to keep raising my wages.
32:54
Everything costs more. And I'm not making the
32:56
money I used to make. And then on
32:59
top of it, they're concerned because Joe Biden's
33:01
talking about raising capital gains taxes, which of
33:03
course, if you want to spur an economy,
33:05
that's crazy. When we did the budget deal
33:07
under Bill Clinton, we cut capital gains taxes,
33:09
talking about raising them, just not selling. Yeah,
33:12
it's an excellent point. And this was a
33:14
smart panel. We got a long way to
33:16
go. So Governor Kasich, welcome back anytime. Alyssa
33:18
DeRosa, new author as well, welcome back anytime. Maybe
33:20
we got to do the show for like
33:22
the Montgomery Inn outside of Cincinnati or something. There
33:24
you go. We'll have the
33:26
ribs. We'll have the ribs. The grater's ice cream
33:29
and whatever that chili stuff is that people put
33:31
on spaghetti for some reason down there. Who
33:33
knows? Governor, thank you very much. Thank
33:36
you. Looking at you, Skyline. All right. Coming
33:39
up was the demise of EVs by
33:42
somebody called too soon. We'll
33:44
talk Ford's big numbers next. I
33:55
don't talk Ford. Overall sales weren't so
33:57
hot, but some positive trends in the.
34:00
Especially with EVs and hybrids. Yes, you heard
34:02
me right. Good EV news.
34:04
First, to what we call, or I
34:06
call, EV light. Diet EV, hybrids.
34:09
Ford hybrid sales jumped 60% from last
34:11
year. F-150 hybrid, Maverick hybrid, they're booming.
34:13
And get this, Ford sold more than
34:15
8,000 electric vehicles in April, more than
34:17
double from a year ago. That means
34:19
that EVs accounted for 4.4% of total
34:22
sales, not a
34:24
lot, but more than double one
34:26
year ago. So the trend is going in
34:28
the right direction. Let's bring in the former
34:30
Ford CEO, Mark Fields, talk about this.
34:33
And there's been a guy on shows
34:35
such as this, Mark, that have been critical of
34:39
the build out, critical of the price, critical of some of
34:41
the technology. Maybe that guy has
34:43
been slightly wrong. Well,
34:46
listen, I think there's this narrative
34:48
of the death of the EV.
34:51
I think the better narrative is the
34:53
death of the explosive growth that
34:56
we've seen in the past year or two for EVs.
34:59
When you look at the results in the
35:01
industry, including Ford's for last month, I
35:03
mean, yeah, the EVs were up
35:05
significantly versus the prior year. You
35:08
have to put it into perspective, right? The
35:11
incentives are up. A lot of
35:13
these manufacturers are clearing out inventory.
35:16
And the average incentive in
35:18
the last month for EVs was
35:21
about $6,000 versus the average incentive
35:23
for an ICE vehicle across the
35:25
industry for about $2,000. So
35:28
as a percent of the total price, they're
35:30
moving them out. And I think the bigger story
35:33
is mentioned at the beginning of the segment here
35:35
is the fact that hybrids are really
35:37
just on fire. I think it's a,
35:39
as you and I have talked about
35:41
before, I think it's a better solution
35:43
for the consumer. It's more cost-effective. They
35:45
don't have to change their habits. And
35:47
that's why you're seeing results like Fords
35:50
and hybrids and even Toyota really,
35:52
really going up. And I think they're
35:54
gonna benefit from that versus somebody like
35:56
GM or VW who just did the
35:58
complete pivot to, we're just. going to
36:00
pull a electric. Yeah, are they
36:02
toast? Because, I mean, yeah, growth rates
36:05
are up, but if you don't have a product
36:07
95% of the country doesn't want to buy, that's
36:09
not a good strategy. Well,
36:12
listen, I think they overestimated the way
36:15
consumers were actually going to adopt these
36:17
vehicles. I think in GM's case, they
36:20
have a great lineup, and they have all these EVs
36:22
coming, and they have a lot of capacity in place
36:24
for that. And listen, they said
36:27
they've done a pivot in their strategy a couple
36:29
of, like a month or two ago, or Mary
36:31
Barra said, oh, we're going to have hybrids also.
36:33
But keep in mind, it takes a few years to
36:35
bring those vehicles to the marketplace, so they're going to
36:37
miss out on that. And in VW's
36:39
case, listen, they went full hog towards
36:42
EVs, and their hybrid offerings are very
36:44
small. So I think they're going to
36:46
suffer as well, at least in this
36:48
interim period. But I'll give
36:50
them credit for the pivot, which is hard, because
36:52
you kind of admit, like, yeah, we got it
36:54
wrong, but we're going to fix that. Everybody makes
36:56
mistakes. Turning it back is the
36:59
smart thing. We'll see where it goes. Mark Fields, smart
37:01
guy, former Ford CEO. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate it. Thanks,
37:04
Brian. All right, coming up, Trump Media's
37:06
war on short sellers, the company calling
37:08
out eight big Wall Street firms will
37:11
tell you more about the blistering war
37:13
of words. Call
37:24
it an all-out war of words. Trump
37:27
Media's CEO, Devin Nunes, is pushing the House
37:29
of Representatives to investigate some Wall Street firms
37:32
that he says engaged in illegal short selling.
37:34
A former California congressman claims eight
37:36
firms facilitated what he calls illicit
37:38
short selling. Now targeting short sellers,
37:40
not new for Nunes. Two
37:43
weeks ago, in a letter to the NASDAQ, he
37:45
warned about what he called potential market manipulation. One
37:48
firm he named, the big Citadel Securities,
37:51
gave us this little nugget, calling Nunes
37:53
a, quote, proverbial loser who
37:55
tries to blame naked short selling for his
37:57
falling stock price. I don't know. You
38:00
don't see that a lot. So what exactly is
38:02
going on here under the hood? It's bringing
38:04
somebody who knows the short world well, that
38:06
is Mr. Herb Greenberg, CBC contributor and now
38:09
co-founder of the new Wall Street Beats, which
38:11
has been terrific. I've been lurking
38:14
online, Herb, since I can't afford a membership. What
38:17
do you think is happening here with
38:19
this? Look, where does this go? Where
38:22
does this end up in
38:24
court? It ends up with the company will
38:26
still be the hobbled company that appears to
38:28
be fundamentally, this is nothing, it's more of
38:30
a diversion tactic. I will say it reminds
38:33
me a lot of the battle
38:35
between the short sellers many years
38:37
ago with overstock.com, where the CEO was constantly
38:39
saying there's naked shorty, naked shorty, naked shorty.
38:41
In the end, what they found was that
38:44
he was in the right house, wrong neighborhood,
38:46
and it was the firm. So I'm not saying that's
38:48
the case here. There was an
38:50
issue with firms that were getting the so-called locate
38:53
for shares that would then be loaned out for
38:55
shorting purposes. And that was causing
38:57
quite a mess. And the actual victims there,
38:59
Brian, listen to this. It's a nuance. The
39:01
victims, it was the short sellers, because they
39:04
ended up having to pay far more than they normally would
39:06
have. So is that the case here? What was it? I
39:09
went out, I had lunch with them. The
39:11
name of the big short seller, the
39:13
huge fight with Patrick Byrne and
39:16
overstock. Why can't I remember? Well,
39:19
I don't know which one. There's so many of
39:21
them. There were allegedly so many. But
39:25
my point is that everything, nothing new is
39:27
old again, or whatever the hell, you know
39:29
what I'm talking about, Herb. Which is, we've
39:31
seen this fight before. You got a heavily
39:33
short stock, CEO's coming out, blaming the short
39:35
sellers. But by the way, he's blaming Ken
39:37
Griffin, one of the richest men in the
39:39
world, owner of Citadel. I'm not sure that's
39:41
the fight you want to pick. I don't
39:43
know. Look, I
39:45
can't tell you what's going on here. What I
39:48
can tell you is this. We know that this
39:50
is almost always a diversion tactic. I say it,
39:52
and beware of what you wish for. Because
39:55
you know, with these stocks, especially thinly traded like
39:57
this, it's the elevator up, get rid of the
39:59
short. sellers, no natural buyers, when
40:01
reality hits, it is the elevator
40:04
shaft down. That is the
40:06
thing that gets lost in this. In the
40:08
meantime, you create a war, you get the
40:10
enemy, the enemy is the short sellers, it's
40:12
a populist message. Brian,
40:15
we have seen it before and in the end, it's
40:17
not usually the company that wins. No,
40:19
it's not. And we'll have to wait to see. I'm not
40:21
going to ask you how this ultimately plays out, but it's
40:24
got to be- I have no idea. No, but
40:26
it's because it's got the former
40:28
guy's name, right? It's going to get extra attention no
40:31
matter what happens. Of course. And that's
40:33
why the stock is where it is. If it wasn't the
40:35
former guy, it would be the stock would be, as I
40:37
said before, a penny stock. Yeah,
40:39
a couple million in sales revenue. Number one, hey, you're
40:41
a couple of weeks into Wall Street Beats, I'll give
40:43
you 20 seconds to plug it because I love you.
40:45
Like what's been the biggest surprise for you so far
40:47
in this new gig? Just how
40:50
many great ideas we've had. And I say that
40:52
we do a morning sort of like call and
40:54
I will tell you the team we put together
40:56
is just so fantastic. A lot of former people
40:58
who people used to listen to, and
41:01
we're getting them back to be listened to again.
41:04
Getting the band back together again. I
41:06
can't wait to see Herb Greenberg back
41:08
at CNBC HQ someday, but you'd have
41:10
to put on pants Herb, and
41:12
I don't think you want to do that. Live in San
41:14
Diego. Herb Greenberg, thank you
41:17
very much. Coming up, the TV that watches you. This
41:19
is a hell of a story you got to hear
41:21
and see. It's next. This
41:29
is a cool segment. All right. With the
41:31
rise of streaming TV, disrupting traditional television, the
41:33
TV ad space has been in decline. I
41:36
mean, we know that, but
41:38
one company is looking to change that. Telly
41:41
is a new TV maker that gives you a dual
41:43
screen, 55 inch television
41:45
for free. But
41:49
there is a catch. Before you order
41:51
a Telly, you answer more than a hundred
41:53
questions about your household, your viewing habits, your
41:55
interests and more. Telly will ship
41:57
to you with personalized ad.
42:00
advertising and then it
42:02
knows what you're doing and gives
42:04
you advertising always on the
42:06
screen. Joining us now is
42:08
Telly founder and CEO, Ilya Posen. Ilya,
42:10
thank you for coming in. Thanks so much
42:12
for having me. No, I mean, by the way,
42:15
Harmon Carden sound bar, you were blasting some music
42:17
earlier. It sounds good, like a Sonos sound bar
42:19
or something. All right, this
42:22
is free. So
42:24
how do you make money? Yeah, so we make, first of
42:26
all, this is the smartest TV on the market. If we
42:28
were to sell this TV, it would have to be well
42:31
over $1,000. But as you said, we're
42:33
giving away completely free. This thing goes
42:35
beyond television, right? It's dual screen. It's got
42:37
a second screen on the bottom that shows
42:39
you sports scores and news and weather. We've
42:42
got a camera on here that lets you do zoom
42:44
calls and fitness and gaming, right? Voice
42:46
assistant, all zero dollars, right? All this stuff that
42:49
we keep updating every month, making it better and
42:51
better. So take a test, like keeps improving. But
42:53
as you said, we got to monetize, right? So
42:55
how do we make money? The advertisers cover
42:57
the cost of the TV. So this is
42:59
an ad. This is always on. This bottom
43:01
screen is on when your top screen is
43:03
on. So no matter when you're, whatever you're
43:05
watching, we're able to monetize using the bottom
43:08
device. So our consumers, because of
43:10
all the beyond TV features that we
43:12
have, actually use the TV far longer
43:14
than a traditional TV. traditional TV is
43:16
used about three hours a day or
43:18
so. We're almost double that in our
43:20
usage time, right? So earlier I posted
43:22
you and my producer, Chelsea, playing whack-a-mole.
43:24
Yeah. There's games on here.
43:26
Because the camera, you can move. It's
43:29
super advanced. And the games, first of all, the games
43:31
aren't even out yet. We're showing a little preview that's
43:34
coming out in two weeks, but that's the whole point
43:36
of this thing. We keep making
43:38
it better and better because we overloaded it with
43:40
extra computing power, extra sensors just to make this
43:42
thing future proof, right? And the advertising
43:44
piece, or check this out. So there's a Pizza Hut ad
43:46
right there. We press beta open
43:48
and this is something a TV can't do,
43:51
right? We literally are now on pizza hut.com
43:53
and we can order a pizza right from
43:55
your screen. So typically when an advertiser, advertisers
43:57
are on television, it's just brand ad. That's
43:59
it. They hope they're reaching the right people.
44:01
But it's just really for exposure. If you
44:03
typically, if you're an advertiser, you want conversion,
44:06
you go to web mobile, right? But finally,
44:08
if you look at this device, it's almost
44:10
like a mobile tablet attached to a TV.
44:12
That's why we're able to get conversion rates
44:14
and engagement from telly that you're not able
44:16
to run an online. I need you to
44:18
help me out with something because there is
44:20
a camera that you could play
44:22
games and do Zoom calls. That's right. Are
44:25
you... I mean, if I'm
44:27
sitting on my couch shirtless,
44:30
dripping corn nuts on
44:32
my chest. No one wants to see that. No one's
44:34
in the house. And I don't want you to see
44:37
it either. Is that watching me? Absolutely no. If you
44:39
look at the camera that's shot, right,
44:41
completely, and we stay above every privacy law,
44:43
what we, we don't use the camera whatsoever.
44:45
It's only there for the consumer use case
44:47
to play video games, to do Zoom calls,
44:50
to do fitness, things like that. We don't look at
44:52
you. So you know what I'm watching? Yeah. Last call,
44:54
7 to 8 PM Eastern time
44:56
Monday, Friday, by the way. But
44:59
you're not watching me watch that screen. Okay.
45:01
That's company. But we talked about this earlier.
45:03
I was a little bit confused. Yeah. A
45:05
little scared about it. Yeah, we don't do
45:07
that. But let me give you an example.
45:09
So this is, this is me opening up
45:11
Zoom on the TV, right? So now the
45:13
camera will physically open. Yep. There it is.
45:15
You're right there. And now we're on a
45:17
Zoom call, right? This is something once again,
45:19
your TV can't do, but you know, what's crazy is
45:22
that it's 2024. Our TV hasn't
45:24
changed in 10 years, right? TVs right now do
45:26
the same thing they did a decade ago. We
45:29
changed all that. We built a TV
45:31
that should be for the modern age.
45:33
If you look at the iPhone, if
45:35
you recall, when the iPhone came out,
45:37
it killed all these other devices, right?
45:39
We had cameras, GPS, music players. Now
45:41
they're all gone, right? Because your smartphone
45:43
can do that. I'm jamming the camera.
45:45
But with
45:47
tele, we're doing the exact same thing because
45:49
TVs didn't innovate. They stopped innovating. All
45:52
these other devices popped up. It is. It is. It's a
45:54
bias speaker and a voice assistant. All of that comes in
45:56
folks. I could say it's not a commercial, but the sound,
45:58
this sound bar, they were jamming. some music
46:00
earlier. I felt like I was, you
46:02
know, disco was fantastic. Ilioposa, really cool
46:05
stuff. 250,000 plus I'm already signed up.
46:08
Thanks for coming in. Thanks for bringing it in.
46:10
Thanks for what you're having. Folks, as always, thank
46:12
you for watching Last Call. I'm off tomorrow. I
46:14
will see you live Monday from Los Angeles. Reese's
46:45
peanut butter cups are where the green is, but let
46:47
me play devil's advocate here. Let's see.
46:50
So no, that's a good thing. Definitely
46:54
not a problem. Reese's, you
46:56
did it. You stopped this charming
46:58
day.
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